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Post by wingtol on Dec 16, 2021 7:48:47 GMT -6
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Post by wingtol on Dec 14, 2021 16:15:24 GMT -6
It cracks me up this time of year seeing all the social media posts from coaches who aren't returning next year. These giant soliloquies they post questioning what they will do now etc... acting like some huge tragic event just happened. Just cracks me up, you'll be fine next fall heck you might even enjoy not being on the sidelines. Like you said there is life after football. I was legitimately worried I would go through major withdrawals as I had been involved with football every fall from 1990-2018. "Coach" was how I identified my role in the world. I thought it was my "calling". I thought I was good at it and had had success at virtually every stop. It took until this fall for me to even miss being on the sideline for Friday night. And to a degree that was more wanting to help correct the {censored} coaching my son was receiving. I still have no desire to ever step on the practice field, or go to a 7on7 or a random weight session in March. I was ready to go this year. Was almost a relief at the end of the season for me. Don't know if I will be on a HS sideline again anytime soon but will help with my sons 7/8th grade team for a few years while he plays. Looking forward to having time after school in the fall and not getting home till after 7 after picking kids up from their practices.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 14, 2021 6:27:55 GMT -6
I cant continue to do it this way for much longer, but if i find at least a doable alternative, I will do this as long as I breath. I cannot bring myself to even consider blue collar work again at any level. If i am going to retire, it will be because I am close to death. I can tell you from personal experience (41 mostly successful and enjoyable years) there is life after coaching. It cracks me up this time of year seeing all the social media posts from coaches who aren't returning next year. These giant soliloquies they post questioning what they will do now etc... acting like some huge tragic event just happened. Just cracks me up, you'll be fine next fall heck you might even enjoy not being on the sidelines. Like you said there is life after football.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 9, 2021 17:27:08 GMT -6
I see your point somewhat but it's HS football. For us nothing is mandatory until the first official day so saying you're allowing it in the off season is kind of a half truth. Sure you can come up with ways to hold them accountable but at the same time if they show up the first day cleared to play ya still can't stop them. It's HS ball, there will be dudes who do nothing or the absolute minimum in the off season and still are better than 95% of the kids that do. The list in the picture is blank so maybe this is a warning shot being fired like "don't end up on this list" to motivate kids. Didn't LSU do this for NFL scouts a few years ago? I feel a bit better about that than pulling this at a HS level. If you're serious about this with recruiters there are ways to send them signals to when they ask about a kid. If you're only talking about their play on the field when they ask about them or are just like you got the film and can talk to him yourself etc they can get the hint about their character.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 8, 2021 6:24:41 GMT -6
Yeah piece of s**t coaches 100%
Saw this awhile ago and read comments. It's sad to see that there are people out there who think this is okay and builds toughness. And then they will be the same people who can't figure out why kids aren't playing anymore.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 6, 2021 7:46:09 GMT -6
This season was y 25th coaching. I knew I wasn't going back when the season started and our HC (who I have been friends with since I was 4) decided he was done about half way through. Not saying I won't be back in HS ball at some point, my son will be in 7th next year and is playing so that's where I will be, but it won't be as a coordinator. I'll take just being a position coach and letting some young buck do all the grinding. Being at a small school kind of expedited the process this year, just so many things that wear you out. Kids are young and on lots of teams so that plays a part too. Teaching 23 years. Looking to jump to admin since I feel stagnant in my teaching job. Have a great pension here could top out at 55, but we'll see if I make it that long. If I can take my benefits and still be okay pension wise...c-ya!!! I'll go sub a couple days a week as they have just raised pay to 200 a day here. 7th grade coordinators “grinding”? Either your MS ball is unlike most others in the country, or you haven’t had much experience with MS ball lol. In all seriousness though, in that situation be prepared to bite your tongue- a lot Was talking about when I end up back in HS. I'm not gonna be a shot caller or anything like that. Coach my guys and clap on the sidelines LOL
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Post by wingtol on Dec 6, 2021 6:22:31 GMT -6
This season was y 25th coaching. I knew I wasn't going back when the season started and our HC (who I have been friends with since I was 4) decided he was done about half way through. Not saying I won't be back in HS ball at some point, my son will be in 7th next year and is playing so that's where I will be, but it won't be as a coordinator. I'll take just being a position coach and letting some young buck do all the grinding. Being at a small school kind of expedited the process this year, just so many things that wear you out. Kids are young and on lots of teams so that plays a part too.
Teaching 23 years. Looking to jump to admin since I feel stagnant in my teaching job. Have a great pension here could top out at 55, but we'll see if I make it that long. If I can take my benefits and still be okay pension wise...c-ya!!! I'll go sub a couple days a week as they have just raised pay to 200 a day here.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 3, 2021 15:42:42 GMT -6
Not exactly on topic but...
We were down 14-0 in a playoff game after running 2 offensive plays. The other team ran 0. Threw a pick 6 second play of the game ensuing kickoff we fumbled it and they scooped and scored. Not kidding like 30 seconds were off the clock. Final was like 68-30.
We were also beating a team like real bad, 50s-0 at half. Was a boys home that had just started football that season. Was an interesting team to say the least... Had freshman in 4th qtr like playing out of position. Said to one of our other assistants "If we break a run I'm jumping on the field and either tackling the kid or doing something." Next play...BOOM kid rips one up the middle on a blast play break away, can see him grabbing me on the film as I tried to run on the field. Refs threw a flag thank God.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2021 17:02:10 GMT -6
I am sure there ae ways they could milk some time off the clock. Call someone in bounds that was out but close, wait a bit before they chop the play clock, take their time spotting the ball. We have been on both sides of blow outs and even with a mercy rule in effect the refs have made it easy to run time off by doing things like that. Also if I was the other team anytime I had the ball I would have waited to snap it at the 5 second hand by the ref.Had a few games in my career where I had to use my Prevent Offense too. It's really nice when the ref understands and chops it like as you are breaking the huddle after a good 25 seconds or so in the huddle.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2021 16:45:23 GMT -6
Honestly at this point in my career I know they will never ever ever take it as serious as we do. Ever. I didn't share a ton of stuff with the team. Break down the ODK, formation, play, and play type in HUDL so they can sort through if they want. One page formation sheet, one sheet top runs, one sheet top passes. If there were any dead give a ways then share that too. Install game plan all week in practice.
Never felt the need for a 20 page report as the only thing that would do is create more trash to throw out during the week as you find them scattered all over the locker room. Now of course there are groups that eat it all up study it and those guys are real fun to coach.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2021 16:35:12 GMT -6
actually, now that im back from practice. what is the refs responsibility here? i feel like there needs to be SOME level of oversight to protect our game from idiot coaches at the time the game is played. In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. I am sure there ae ways they could milk some time off the clock. Call someone in bounds that was out but close, wait a bit before they chop the play clock, take their time spotting the ball. We have been on both sides of blow outs and even with a mercy rule in effect the refs have made it easy to run time off by doing things like that. Also if I was the other team anytime I had the ball I would have waited to snap it at the 5 second hand by the ref.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 1, 2021 9:26:18 GMT -6
Won a game 90-32 a few years ago. Believe me, we weren't even trying to run the score up. We had all backups in on offense, and our third-string RB busted runs of 51, 55, and 65 yards on the first play of some series. However, the other team continued to pass the ball for incompletions- meaning their series only took about 15 seconds off the game clock. This situation sounds bad, but since then I'll always reserve judgment on these types of situations. Sometimes you just run into a team that quits in the middle of the game, while your back-ups (who have been itching to make their mark all year-long) are hungry and fired up. 90-32 with backups is 100% different from 106-0 with starting qb throwing 13 td’s. Sometimes, it just is what it is. Sometimes, a jerk is the head coach. Period. Amen. If you're up big and running FB blast the whole second half and kids are scoring then you tried. 13 td passes and GOING FOR 2 UP 104-0 leaves no room to reserve judgment! That coach is a prick.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 31, 2021 15:02:38 GMT -6
I was shocked, SHOCKED, to read this about the coach that scored 106.....
Inglewood head coach Mil’Von James is in his third season. He was head coach at Hawkins in the City Section until being fired following the 2016 season when his team had to forfeit every victory for using ineligible players and the program was placed on two years’ probation for rules violations. He has seven players on this year’s team committed to major universities. All are transfer students.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 24, 2021 17:02:55 GMT -6
What happens if they don't earn it? You have kids on the sideline without a logo? What happens when people ask about it? "Jimmy didn't sell enough frozen cookie dough and missed a 7 on 7 so he doesn't get one" Does it create division on the team between the Logos and the Logoless? I think it's pretty stupid myself to make a kid earn something like a helmet sticker. If they show up to the mandatory practices and make it through camp isn't that enough for them to earn the logo?
Now I think St Ed's in Ohio has some kid of tradition where there is a different stripe or something they put on a helmet after a player does something, you have to really look to notice. Something like that I could see as an incentive.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 24, 2021 6:29:46 GMT -6
Zero. I have never been a teacher in a school where I have coached. 23 years teaching and I am maxed out in salary. We have a state pension that's pretty good and our district pays over 22,000 of our health insurance each year add that to salary and total compensation is close to 100k. I'm not going anywhere to coach football. There is such a shortage of guys willing to coach around here and not to mention probably 20 schools with in a 20-25 minute drive from me no need to leave my teaching job to coach.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 20, 2021 5:26:51 GMT -6
What matters most for football is his size, speed, athleticism, and film. I guess the farther down the college levels you get academics could come into play for some D3 schools, but in my experience if a school thinks he can play for them and he's academically eligible by NCAA then that's all they care about. Of course there are schools that want high academic kids like Ivy League, Stanford, Service Academies, etc... but most places if you can get NCAA cleared you're good.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 18, 2021 20:11:58 GMT -6
Get turf. Problem solved
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Post by wingtol on Oct 17, 2021 20:04:21 GMT -6
I have eliminated the rest of the world and just chosen to work on myself. This sums up how I feel about our scout team right now
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Post by wingtol on Oct 17, 2021 19:59:41 GMT -6
I don’t understand this process. What does “just work on themselves” mean in this context? 1's vs 1's Our O vs Our D Stuff like that i'm assuming #firstworldproblems
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Post by wingtol on Sept 16, 2021 5:12:06 GMT -6
I do not get to crazy with tendencies overall. Usually looking to see: what are they trying to do and with who. Try to get a feel for what they are good at and who they want getting the ball and go from there. Coaching at and against smaller schools often times there aren't too many options so take away what and who they want with the ball and make them do things they aren't good at. At least in theory.
With just one game, I usually only break down the last two we have on a team cause so much can change from week to week, it's always hard especially if it is game one and you're trying to figure them out.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 15, 2021 5:27:09 GMT -6
Press Man cover 0…like Virgin (Love making)….could be really good. Could be really bad…but it’s gonna be over quick. When I talk about LB run thru with the OL we use the virgin technique....stop penetration at all costs
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Post by wingtol on Sept 14, 2021 10:54:18 GMT -6
dude--a guy on defense you gotta figure out how to deal with cat-just a super athletic guy on offense usually I like when we are athletic and good on D and we can run Cat coverage..... I got that Cat you got that Cat and so on
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Post by wingtol on Sept 13, 2021 16:56:55 GMT -6
Why does Saban, Belichick, etc. still have Indy and still practice tackling, blocking, etc. if it's not worth the time? They're not as smart as Kevin Kelley? Not as worried about their book and dvd sales as he is....?
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Post by wingtol on Sept 13, 2021 16:54:42 GMT -6
Soup Sandwich = a soft mushy player who doesn't like contact at all. Or just a total mess. US Army approved. 👍 Although, in the Army, it usually referred to a person who was a giant f*ckup: "Pvt. Smith is a soup sandwich. He married a stripper with 3 kids 2 weeks ago and she is already filing for divorce." Or it could also refer to an event that was poorly planned or disorganized: "This training exercise is a soup sandwich. Major Jones has the entire squadron leaving the motor pool at 0500 and we are supposed to be in the assembly area by 0730. Has he ever even been to the motor pool? It will take 2 hours just to get those soup sandwiches in Headquarters Troop out the front gate." 🤣 I was trying to be nice in my description....but yes everything you said LOL
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Post by wingtol on Sept 13, 2021 5:20:27 GMT -6
Soup Sandwich = a soft mushy player who doesn't like contact at all. Or just a total mess.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 12, 2021 8:05:40 GMT -6
I wonder in todays day and age coming out and saying we don't work on any technique or tackling sets you up for massive liability if a kid gets hurt bad. I could see especially in HS people running with that if something ever happened and you are on record saying we don't teach kids how to do that.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 7, 2021 8:23:38 GMT -6
We had a local team make the state championship game last year playing 2 of the 4 state playoff games due to corona cancellations. So far this year in our district there have been 6 corona cancellations as we enter week 3. I am setting the over under at playing 5 games out of our scheduled 10. What are the criteria for cancellation/forfeit? No clue. Each school district is different. Team that we were supposed to play last week had one case and shut down. Other teams have just quarantined players and if they had enough to play after that have played. Basically get a call "Hey we are not playing this week."
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Post by wingtol on Sept 7, 2021 8:14:55 GMT -6
How many teams in your area are affected by positive tests? We are quarantined until the 13th but only un-vaxed. We have already had to forfeit our 1st game. Curious...what are the rules regarding forfeits? What exactly determines that you must forfeit? Wondering if that is different state to state. In Louisiana last year, I found it interesting that each week there were many covid "cancellations" (not forfeits last year...this year the games are forfeited) BUT once the 2nd round of the playoffs hit, Covid magically disappeared. That is a bit disheartening to tell the truth. The optimist in me wants to believe that is because the better teams did a better job of following protocols.... but the realist in me says that some shadiness was involved. We had a local team make the state championship game last year playing 2 of the 4 state playoff games due to corona cancellations. So far this year in our district there have been 6 corona cancellations as we enter week 3. I am setting the over under at playing 5 games out of our scheduled 10.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 3, 2021 13:10:35 GMT -6
Anyone using the newer Porta Phone 900? I hate Porta Phone but we need new headsets and the Coach Comm and HME are out of our price range right now.
Experiences with these headsets?
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Post by wingtol on Sept 3, 2021 13:04:50 GMT -6
I'm in PA close to Ohio and know their playoff points system. Beating a bad team doesn't do much but it's better than not playing a game I guess. Alot of the private school in Ohio near us play independent schedules so getting games isn't always easy too. But they didn't play a game. OHSAA isn't even calling it a contest and it doesn't count towards anything. Again, how does a school with that reputation get duped? This is more shocking than ESPN or IMG getting fleeced. Someone a couple counties away doesn't know a school is not accredited? You'd think your AD in PA would know if a school close by was actually a real school. That's my only point. Had no idea the game wasn't being counted. Saying that I can see how teams would schedule them in a way to get an easy win and fill out a schedule when no one wants to play you.
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