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Post by coachks on Jul 6, 2009 19:13:54 GMT -6
Chuck Martin at GVSU was an outstanding speaker
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Post by coachks on Jul 6, 2009 13:50:28 GMT -6
CoachD
I'm a little suprised you don't decompress with football. I mean, what else would I do, make friends?
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Post by coachks on Jul 3, 2009 11:05:04 GMT -6
I think one example of this is how we draw up our defense. How many of us coaches draw up our base defense against 21 personel? A lot of our defensive thinking is based on how it matches up against 21 personel, I-form power football.
We only see 21 personel once a season.
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Post by coachks on Jun 29, 2009 21:19:31 GMT -6
Just curious how other coaches watch a game live. Either in the stands (Whether you're just a fan or you are scouting) or in the box on game night. Even when you're watching a game on TV. Just curious what others do.
Scouting: I usually watch a combination of demeanor/emotion and try and "feel" their play calling. I'll take cursorary notes on formation and personel, but we never scout without getting film as well so I don't try and break down the game.
From the box: Obviously this all depends on assignments and such.... When we're on defense I try and watch from the center to the MLB. This will give me my pass/run read and show me any guard movment.
Thats the toughest spot to see from the sideline, and I'll normally catch how they block the playside end. I'll also see if their line is getting to our linebackers.
On TV: It's tough since cameramen are getting worse and worse about zooming in. I'll try and check out formations-front-coverage if I can. From then I'll normally try and watch the linebackers as they will take me to the play more often than not (and I'll catch patterns peripherally).
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Post by coachks on Jun 18, 2009 11:50:42 GMT -6
We value technique over athleticism. If we are a two platoon team, then our players get 3 days of practice at one position. They will player faster and make fewer mistakes by mastering one position instead of learning 2 or 3. Are true studs are going to play both ways, but that is only a couple of kids (and usually they are seniors who have been up since they were sophmores).
Frankly, I find it insulting that you feel any team that two platoons are trying to be like "college coaches." That would be no different than labeling a one platoon coach as lazy because he doesn't want to develop his players. If you feel it is negligent that we may start an "inferior" player, we could simply argue that it is negligent that you do NOT develop every member of your team. I played for a one-platoon team. I was a backup. Believe me when I say that those players know who is really important.
Our off-seaosn program consistantly leaves us with around 25 good players. On a purely physical standpoint, the difference between player #4 and player #25 is rarely big enough of a gap that cannot be filled in which superior technique. We will have gaps that will be filled in with a handful of two-way players.
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Post by coachks on Jun 18, 2009 7:51:30 GMT -6
The game was on the Big 10 network so I tuned in. I'm too young to have watched the game as it happened, but I've seen the entire 10-year war through replays.
But last night it really occured to me how much football has changed. Both teams lined up in the I formation with a wing-back on the weakside. Same formation all game. Both defended it with a 5-2 monster, all game. Wide splits by the line and only a handful of plays (FB dive, Iso, option, lead and play action off of thsoe).
The most amazing part to me was the Oline play. Michigan especially, man did they get off the ball. They were on the linebackers instantly. Pad level was so low, excellent push up front.
Modern big-time college (and NFL) football is dominated by zone running. Splits are tighter, the OL is reading on the snap and they aren't as quick. Pads are higher. It's so different.
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Post by coachks on Jun 15, 2009 20:31:50 GMT -6
One of the great benefits to 2 platooning is that more kids are involve. It creates a much more positive atmosphere and a lot more "contributors". More kids feeling important means more kids really put in a ton of effort in the off-season and during practice. We'll have enough kids going both ways to not leave ourselves short, and we utilize our best players, but we want as many kids playing a we can.
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Post by coachks on Jun 6, 2009 14:33:47 GMT -6
I read a thread in here about 4 point stance and 3 point stance that seemed like a kid looking for a good way to ignore his coaches. I will say this however, if a kid does come with a legitamite question (IE, why can't I play in a 4 point stance) the coach should also have a good reason why he can't. No quicker way to shut a kid up then a 10 minute explanation of the differences and making him feel about 4 inches tall for questioning you. Unfortunately, we are all going to run into kids that may be just as smart as we are and with the internet it's so easy to get information. Simply telling a kid to do it your way isn't going to solve the root issue. If you can explain WHY your technique is better and why the other technique isn't as good it will nip that problem in the butt. Treating the kid as an adult never hurts. Now...if they still question you after that you can kindly explain this isn't burger king. How can we know on here that the coach hasn't done that already? We can't, it was more of a general statement.
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Post by coachks on Jun 6, 2009 11:28:55 GMT -6
I read a thread in here about 4 point stance and 3 point stance that seemed like a kid looking for a good way to ignore his coaches.
I will say this however, if a kid does come with a legitamite question (IE, why can't I play in a 4 point stance) the coach should also have a good reason why he can't. No quicker way to shut a kid up then a 10 minute explanation of the differences and making him feel about 4 inches tall for questioning you.
Unfortunately, we are all going to run into kids that may be just as smart as we are and with the internet it's so easy to get information. Simply telling a kid to do it your way isn't going to solve the root issue. If you can explain WHY your technique is better and why the other technique isn't as good it will nip that problem in the butt. Treating the kid as an adult never hurts.
Now...if they still question you after that you can kindly explain this isn't burger king.
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Post by coachks on May 31, 2009 13:47:03 GMT -6
We 2-platoon, but we make sure enough kids are going 2-ways to provide depth and avoid having a truly bad player on the field. But are any starting both ways? Maybe those "studs" (I wish people would use the word "stars", looks less like livestock or sex hustlers) you referred to (snipped)? So what do you do on any given practice day with the srs. learning the position on the other side? Do they spend more time with the "other" squad, because you figure they're already good at playing one side of the ball? Or do they practice primarily with the squad they're experienced with, learning the opposite side only a little? Last year we only had one kid starting two-ways. This year it'll likely be two, maybe 3. Two years ago we started the year with 2 players, but one ended up only starting one way by the end of the year. We would actually have another kid starting both ways this year, but one player has injury issues and that's a lot of extra snaps. For the seniors most of their learning is done before the season begins. Lineman come in early and go over assignments and we have various 7 on 7's and a passing camp. Thats where they learn the bulk. During the season we only plan on using them in certain ways, so they don't have to practice everything. Once a week they miss a few non-critical main drills and go to the other side. A running back normaly will miss some agility drills and some timing stuff in order to work on tackling. During pass skelly that player will also work on both sides. A linebacker who doubles as a backup guard will miss some pursuit drills and engaging blockers to go work with the OL when they are doing assignments. One of our key philosophies on it is that the "good" kids are going to be able to some stuff naturally. That linebacker should be able to block naturally and that running back should have good enough hips that he doesn't need to do as many hip flips and backpeddle drills. Certainly they aren't great at their secondary position, but they are passible as a backup. The kids that truly start both ways need to be good enough that one day of offense and one day of defense is enough reps for them.
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Post by coachks on May 30, 2009 23:26:07 GMT -6
We 2-platoon, but we make sure enough kids are going 2-ways to provide depth and avoid having a truly bad player on the field. Something we do is try and have juniors only go one way (as much as possible) and teach them a spot on the other side of the ball as a senior.
It's a two way street. We're very good in close games (and overtime) because we can outlast a lot of teams. With more time to teach our schemes can be a bit more complex than if we only had one day per side of the ball. It also allows more kids to play, which is always a morale booster.
However, we do still have some players out there who are questionable. We do try and limit it by having "studs" go two-ways, but sometimes we make some miscalculations about how much a kid will improve with coaching.
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Post by coachks on May 30, 2009 14:42:20 GMT -6
That play calling is one of the least important aspects of coaching.
That "schemes" are volitale and subjective.
Despite what people want to believe (even ourselves at times), Football is not a chess match. I've never seen an undersized pawn fight off the queen and get into position to check the king. Chess pieces never fall down, never get hurt and never go the wrong direction. Any chess piece can eliminate any other chess piece, and I've never seen the king break a check, stiff-arm a rook and score.
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Post by coachks on May 29, 2009 22:35:47 GMT -6
Simple, the offensive line are the leftovers after we stack up the defensive line.
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Post by coachks on May 25, 2009 22:07:48 GMT -6
Coachharrig, I believe what your saying is true...but it's just so....uh..dumb.
Northwestern isn't drawing enough blue chips to justify using that excuse. Akron, Utah State, Rice....they just don't have any talent to take a huge hit talent wise by not attracting the blue chips.
In fact, they should be able to convince a back that's a "step slow" that being a Wing-T fullback will make him look better to a pro scout.
We won't see it, because nobody is putting their neck on the line. It's too bad too, because it would really improve the quality of some of these small conference. The entire MAC conference is running the spread. Each team is trying to lure in the same exact kids, and somehow the goal is to get their "athletes in space". What athletes? There's 12 schools going after the same kids (Which are already being thinned with more Big 10 teams going to the spread)....somebodies gotta lose out on the athletes anyway.
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Post by coachks on May 23, 2009 12:19:24 GMT -6
In that situation it's a roll pass. My best lineman is sealing the edge and my best receiver is in the flats. My QB has the run/pass option.
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Post by coachks on May 22, 2009 12:30:14 GMT -6
Football is incredibly dangerous, no other coaches should allow their players to participate in football. If you're at a small school, that would devastate your team.
The kid got hurt playing a game with his teammates.
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Post by coachks on May 21, 2009 14:03:46 GMT -6
It still goes back to $$$ and what puts people in the stands. You could also make a point to "fan intelligence" in that they are incapable of appreciating the Wing-T. Spread Air Raid & Option have detailed coaching points, but the excecution and explosion is based much more on athleticism. This part of football can be observed, understood & appreciated by the average spectator. The Wing-T doesn't do it with flashy open field moves or "speed in space" concepts and fans can't dissect what is working or not. A 4 yard gain to them is not productive enough. They don't understand "run progressions" and how plays compliment each other. I guess fans would rather see 40+ attempts, with 5 INT's, 50% completions and lose the game than a grind-it out 14-10 win, with 300 yards rushing on 50 carries. I disagree in part. If you're grinding out 14-10 victories the fans will love you. Yout just have a much shorter leash when things go south.
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Post by coachks on May 20, 2009 14:10:46 GMT -6
It's not run at the big time level because nobody is going to put their reputation at risk. The offense is not an easy sell to established players and it takes time to install. Nobody at a big school is going to risk their career installing the Wing-T.
Team loses a tight game, it's the Wing-T. First shutout, its that stupid Wing-T. Defense gives up 40. It's the Wing-T. Offense scores 45, it's the players.
It's going to be pretty tough that first interview after your fired being that "Wing-T" guy.
Look at Urban Meyer at Bowling Green. Wanted to run veer but he would have been fired if he tried it. Runs the same stuff (But SPREAD) and he's a genius.
Look at how long it took Paul Johnson to get a big-time job. Coaches with much worse resumes have gotten an opportunity before he got his. Even if the coach did have success, not many ADs are going to give the head job to you if your the "Wing-T guy".
If you want to coach big time college, or the NFL, you are not going to risk your job to run the Wing-T. It's better to be a crappy MAC school running the spread and getting pummeled than to be the successful Wing-T coach for your career.
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Post by coachks on May 17, 2009 12:22:34 GMT -6
What about if you find about about incidents informally. You hear rumors about a party or what not in which players use alcohol/drugs ect.
How do you handle that? High Schoolers aren't exactly known for their ability to shutup about things so it almost certainly has/will come up for just about every HC.
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Post by coachks on May 17, 2009 11:04:16 GMT -6
What data was the astrophysist analyzing? HS, D1, Pro? Just curious.
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Post by coachks on May 13, 2009 15:39:44 GMT -6
"If you don't want us to run up the score, don't suck"
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Post by coachks on May 12, 2009 9:51:31 GMT -6
CoachK,
How much time do you spend during practice preparing for the 2 point conversion. One of things that can off-set a talence differential is preparation and execution. They may be a better team, but you may be a better team from the 3 yard line going in. How many 2 point plays do you run and how much time do you spend preparing them?
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Post by coachks on May 11, 2009 7:43:37 GMT -6
Are you guys saying that you eat while you are coaching? How? When? Why? I have never eaten during a game. Not really eating, just chewing on something for nerves/anxiety/focus ect. Especially helpful at times when you are coaching on defense and those damn offensive guys just keep passing the freakin ball!
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Post by coachks on May 10, 2009 23:28:51 GMT -6
Just curious what other coaches eat during the game. I know a lot of coaches suck on cough drops or hard candy. Last year I got into a habit of snacking on "ice breakers" but those had a tendency to eat through my tongue so I'm looking for a new snack.
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Post by coachks on May 10, 2009 19:23:46 GMT -6
The onside kick argument is very interesting. I think I'm going to go through the tape and check out our kick coverage.
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Post by coachks on May 3, 2009 20:08:47 GMT -6
If you're having a problem with a player and the head coach isn't supporting you it sounds like you need a new job.
You can't simply have a player who you don't coach. It sets a bad example for the young kids and creates an expectation that the best athletes don't have to listen. The kid isn't bigger than the team (and, if he is, you need a new team).
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Post by coachks on Apr 28, 2009 18:42:42 GMT -6
This will be my 3rd year of coaching. I work primarily with the defense. 4-3 defense, Wing-T offense.
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