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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 12, 2011 21:00:56 GMT -6
After our last game last season I gave each of our players a bottle of what was kid-friendly that I had the most of -- users.bestweb.net/~robgood/lather.html . The organiz'n has an awards brunch on a Sunday in February that about splits the distance between the football & baseball seasons.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 9, 2011 8:25:23 GMT -6
Once again Marquis was our star, scoring 2 TDs, blocking on the edge for our 3rd, and making a saving tackle on our 1 where we wound up holding for 4 downs when the previously 2-0 Spartans coaches unaccountably got too fancy. It was a see-saw game where we scored with 35 secs. left to win 19-14 to take over 1st place in the Warriors Pee Wee Div. with our now 2-0 record.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 4, 2011 13:03:52 GMT -6
Tiney Mites play 20 minute running clock halves. Mitey Mites on up play 4 10 minute quarters, which swich to running clock if a 28 point differential is reached. 10 minute halftimes for all levels. I think that's pretty generous (or grueling, depending how they look at it) for Mighty Mites. Are their rosters large? Unusual to see them playing the same length as higher levels.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 1, 2011 13:18:18 GMT -6
As poorly prepared as we were for our opener, the Redskins (which did not have the benefit of an opening week bye but won their game vs. the Ramblers) still went down to the Miller Tires Blue Devils (us) today, 18-7. It was Marquis Jimenez, a holdover from last season, around right end, around left end, and up the middle, and making at least one saving tackle, showing that once again when the teams aren't very sophisticated in their prep, the fast kid beats all. We did trail briefly 6-7 early in the 2nd half, though, and the Redskins might've beaten us thru the air had not a couple passes been dropped and their receiver not had to go to the ground on a reception.
I think our 2011 team picture should be up by now, so I'll try to sub it for last year's as my avatar.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 30, 2011 11:46:20 GMT -6
Most not-for-profit organiz'ns are organized roughly as described above. They have a board that is elected by...members of the board. That is, it's a closed system. They may have in addition associate members who get some kind of benefits (maybe just being recognized as such) but aren't allowed to vote. Sometimes in a large organiz'n there's a large number of members who elect a much smaller board, like stockholders in a company.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 27, 2011 20:58:37 GMT -6
Our final regular season game is Saturday. Then for the next two weeks the younger leagues are finishing up their seasons as they have more teams than our age group. The week after that the playoffs start and we have a first round bye and don't play until the next week. So we'll be 4 weeks between games, plus school basketball is starting up here. We're gonna give 'em at least one, maybe two weeks off, then regroup for the playoffs. Sheesh. How did that come about? Couldn't your age class have started later? Or couldn't their playoffs start earlier? Even the teams without byes have to wait 3 weeks?
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 26, 2011 21:27:33 GMT -6
That's not the point. Out of those 1200, I bet the majority DID play youth football. So what? You can't travel backward in time. The question is what to do for the kids you're coaching now, not to pick some subset of them in the future and muse about how they should've been coached. The way to "play the game correctly" is the way that gives you the best winning chance today. Not against opponents you might meet some years down the line if you're in the minority that keeps playing the game -- at which time you can always learn another way to play. People who play certain sports over a number of years sometimes even have to change their game as techniques they favored are outlawed or other developments of the game make them obsolete or disfavored. Just during the years I took wrestling in school, we had to relearn one move when the chicken wing was outlawed. There are chess openings that make sense for lower level players to use because their opponents are unlikely to find the comebacks to them that make them unplayable at grandmaster level. There are similarly lots of things I think are appropriate in children's football that would be inappropriate at higher levels of play, for the same reason. I would think that in areas where participation is greater, the proportion of children who would go on to play in HS would be even lower. The only way I could see Texas HSs to accommodate larger number of players would be for them to have extra teams besides varsity, JV, and frosh; maybe varsity A, varsity B, then JV A, JV B, etc. I doubt many schools have such extra teams. Of course it's possible, as here in NYC, that HS age players could have opp'ties to play other than interscholastically, i.e. on club teams, but that's not what you wrote about.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 24, 2011 21:25:21 GMT -6
If the goal is to teach technique so they excell in youth, intermediate, HS, and college, why would you teach them the 2 pt for O lin anyway? Teach the kids right the first time and they will be better players for it. How many will play in HS? Live for now.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 18, 2011 11:26:25 GMT -6
This may sound stupid, but 53-22 is only a 31 point victory. That is a 4-5 touchdown differential depending on PAT's missed or made. If we kept score like baseball or soccer, that is a four to five point victory. I routinely see little league baseball and AYSO games with much higher point differentials and no one seems to get too upset about it. 35-0 in football just sounds a lot worse than 5-0 in baseball or soccer. I don't really know what my point is other than football seems to have this "mystique" that if you win by 30+ points then it is the winning coaches job to keep the score down and be "sportsmanlike". Funny that this rules doesn't apply across the board to all sports. I disagree with your way of comparing the scores. The reason is the way you score in football vs. the other sports. In baseball a game decided by 5 runs may have seemed pretty close, just because of a few breaks that allowed one team to score those extra runs and the other team not to have. It's also possible for a 5 run decision to have been a more lopsided game. However, if you scale the score for the amount of scoring typical in baseball compared to football, you should actually be comparing 5 TDs to maybe as much as 10 runs in baseball. The comparison with soccer goals is more apt to be like 1-1 with touchdowns, and at higher levels of play even fewer goals. However, the way scores in football tend to develop, a 5 TD lead is likely to indicate a greater degree of domination by one team over another than even a scaled score in baseball or soccer. Once in a while you do see fluke TDs in football that make a final score seem more lopsided than the play of the game actually was, but not as often as that happens in baseball or even soccer. In basketball and soccer it's not unheard of to string a bunch of scores together quickly; in baseball, a high scoring rally is one of the most common patterns; in football that's such a rare event that it's noteworthy. In football you're likely to put in your scrubs earlier than in baseball or soccer, because the lead in football is more secure. Plus, the rules of baseball make it impossible to put the starters back in. So when you see a score of 35-0 in football, you know it's likely that the last quarter or even half (sometimes more) of the game was played by the winning team's 2nd string.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 16, 2011 20:24:26 GMT -6
We do angle tackling -- I started our first this season today -- for the pursuit, not for the form of the tackle. I would still like to coach a form fit if I were given the time, but not different fits for angle and straight-on tackling.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 9, 2011 19:57:28 GMT -6
I notice now at www.eteamz.com/bronxwarriorsfootball/news/index.cfm?cat=501796 that there's no deadline listed. I'm pretty sure there is one. However, IIRC admin. can stick new players onto the team at least as late as a week before the season opener, and maybe even on a practice day during that week, and we have to play them.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 3, 2011 13:02:24 GMT -6
In the video from the youth sports coaching ass'n, the first thing up was stuff like that. You'd think they were trying to scare us off from coaching, administrating, or having anything to do with youth sports.
I don't think crowd control should be coaches' primary responsibility. Sure, we should lead by example, but that's only to make sure we don't contribute to the problem; we can't do anything about the possibility of hotheads in attendance. And in the club where I coach now, crowd control is the farthest thing from coaches' responsibility -- literally! They keep the teams & coaches on one side of the field, and the audience on the other.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 2, 2011 6:32:46 GMT -6
Ran buck lateral and spin series. And without cheating the location of the backs, you were able to make both of those snaps blind?
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 1, 2011 19:06:14 GMT -6
Three years ago we ran UBSW and our center did not have to look anywhere when he snapped. He looked, then picked his head up and snapped. What plays did you have? Did you have buck lateral series, where your fullback gets the snap on his strong side knee?
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 1, 2011 19:04:11 GMT -6
Snapping where you're looking is standard in single wing, short punt, box, and some other attacks where the snap has to be aimed to different places in the backfield. It's also standard in kick formations. Bob But a kick formation has its rules in place...get off the Center....whether his head is up or down. They do now. But what about all that time before that recent rule? Were they playing incorrect football?
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 1, 2011 14:31:47 GMT -6
Coach, It's not about football, it's about the safety of the kids. Being about football IS being about safety of the kids. If your center's head is down, then IMO, he's improperly taught and going to get hurt. Snapping where you're looking is standard in single wing, short punt, box, and some other attacks where the snap has to be aimed to different places in the backfield. It's also standard in kick formations.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 31, 2011 22:58:39 GMT -6
Where I was in 2007 & 2008 was unlimited. However, it's a little hard to answer for the organiz'n I've been in since 2010, as it doesn't fit neatly into a category.
We have restrictions that come into play when there's an 18 point difference in score, but let's put those aside.
All teams are supposed to put in the same base offense and defense. However, we are allowed to add whatever we have time to put in given our limited practice time. This year in the Pee Wee class, we have 9 practices plus a scrimmage before the season starts. So there's no formal restriction, but a practical one.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 29, 2011 9:10:24 GMT -6
Our Pee Wees (U12.5s/120 lbs.) play halves (not quarters) of 18 mins. running time, then 2 mins. Fed time. Our halftime break IIRC is 15 mins. It is pretty short and we could afford to extend it a little and still get the 2nd game in & done in the alloted 3 hrs., because we usually have about 15 mins. between games. They make a big deal of hustling the teams off the field & away from the sideline even though there's plenty of time.
By not changing ends with the quarters, the teams can share one sideline for their "bench area" without having to mix. This is for crowd control purposes, as the opposite sideline is where the stands are.
I don't remember how long the Mites (U10.5s/100 lbs.) get, but I think it might be the same. The Juniors (U14.5s/135 lbs.) get longer, use the same field but the next day. I have no idea how long the flag games are.
In the BAYFL in 2007 JPWs IIRC got 10' Qs, Fed time (or might've been 9'), running time with runaway scores.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 21, 2011 23:39:48 GMT -6
Our organiz'n (house ball) has a small set of core plays that all teams are supposed to install as a minimum, and they just haven't gotten around to posting them on the WWW.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 17, 2011 8:50:04 GMT -6
Gosh, am I the only one eating this thread up or what?! You never know how many people are reading & enjoying these stories.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 16, 2011 19:04:53 GMT -6
I think the origional poster meant 5/6 th grade....7/8 th grade. Thats how i took it. Me too, and so did Morris. Of course as my eyes 1st hit it, my thought was YO, not grade, but when I thought for a sec. I realized he must've meant school grades.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 14, 2011 18:02:10 GMT -6
Did we do it wrong when we used inflated balls instead of foam rubber ones? It's not as if we were using baseballs or lacrosse or cricket balls!
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 14, 2011 13:52:51 GMT -6
For the sake of simplicity and routine, I'd have the older kids go to the football field. It's also true that when practicing kick plays, the older kids will need more room. I think the issue of landmarks is overblown when you can use cones.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 14, 2011 12:10:14 GMT -6
Looks a little too much like the 35 second mark of this video... have fun explaining that one to mom and dad...well, Vince McMahon thought it was a good idea... So did I, and I thought of it independently. I thought that was one of the great innovations of the XFL, except that the way I wanted to do it would've had them coming from opposite directions. And in my version of indoor football, it would start with a neutral kickoff. The ball would be placed in the middle, and the teams would run out from gates at each end that would open automatically as in horse racing, and you couldn't play the ball with anything but the feet until another player did so. Whoever got possession, scrimmage from there. Our director of football operations, at the end of Pee Wee practice this past Thurs. (evaluation stations for players pre-draft, no pads or helmets), saved whose ball for dessert, it seems. I guess he wanted to have and be associated with the most fun, one of the perks of the position, I guess. He let them wrestle long, long after it would've been blown dead in a game. The kids loved it, of course.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 14, 2011 11:52:18 GMT -6
Doesn't everybody who does a gauntlet, except for those who have those springy machine things? And how good are those anyway, compared to humans holding bags or just swiping at the ball? I don't know what "everybody" does. The poster asked if anyone used the gauntlet drill and how they run it. I posted how we do ours. Some people have access to a Blaster sled: The poster did not say whether or not he had one. As we do not have one, I specified that we use players holding bags. I was not trying to claim credit for inventing a new drill or anything or whatever it was that you were inferring with your response. Seems people here are frequently inferring stuff I'm not trying to imply. When I write something and quote somebody, I'm not necessarily responding to or for that person. So I wasn't looking for an answer from you. I was trying to see, first of all, whether people reading this had any other way of doing it, and also trying to determine the prevalence and value of machines like the one you posted a picture of.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 13, 2011 21:58:21 GMT -6
Do any of you guys use the gaunlet drill before wearing pads? If so how do you run it. Just trying to come up with some drill to run the first couple of practices. Thanks Yeah. We do a "human gauntlet". Doesn't everybody who does a gauntlet, except for those who have those springy machine things? And how good are those anyway, compared to humans holding bags or just swiping at the ball?
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 8, 2011 20:22:30 GMT -6
Actually the way I teach it, C probably wouldn't even see the MLB coming, because C would be trying to get the shoulder farthest from where N was slanting to into him. I have no doubt that "4 eyes" techniques would pick up delayed blitzes & run-thrus more efficiently than the assignments I and most other children's coaches would give by rule blocking. We're counting on the play's being designed & executed in such a way that, unless the defense is in the offense's huddle, most of the time they'll be behind the play and taking themselves out, even if some of the time they'll manage to blow it up in the backfield.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 8, 2011 17:08:53 GMT -6
What they'll do in the case you mentioned, Bob, is stop, stand up, and then look around stupidly because "my man wasn't there". So you are correct, the G won't "go through" the C to get that MLB. But what he WILL do is just as bad, LOL. So then what does the slanting nose do, use him as a pick to rub the center off, as C crashes into G?
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 7, 2011 13:10:14 GMT -6
Unless your horizontal split is big and your vertical split small, that shouldn't be much of a problem. If the nose defender is quick, he's going to run into the guard who's stepping toward where the LB started. If the nose defender is slow, that gives the C time to react and stay with him. Surely the G isn't going to be so stupid as to try to go thru the C to get to the slanting LB; it's not a trap play. C gap? WTF? Not C gap, "C" for Center. As in, if the LB slants to the opposite A gap, I don't think the G is going to collide with the C in an effort to get there. I don't think that's going to happen. What's the G going to do, wait for the C to clear in front of him? If his ordinary responsibility the LB, he's going to step where he sees the LB. If the nose defender is slanting into that gap, how fast does the G have to be not to have his way to the LB blocked by the combination of the C and the nose he's blocking? The C is going to start out at least a little ahead of him, and some teams use an even deeper "vertical split".
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 6, 2011 11:08:15 GMT -6
In reality, Gap, On, Backer is Zone. Unless you teach them that they block that man no matter where he goes, which, IMHO, is unsound. If you have a Nose and Backer stacked, and the G's rule is Gap, On, Backer, and he makes the determination that the stacked backer is his man no matter what...what happens then that Backer fires in the opposite A gap, and the Nose slants to the A gap that should be protected by that G? Unless your horizontal split is big and your vertical split small, that shouldn't be much of a problem. If the nose defender is quick, he's going to run into the guard who's stepping toward where the LB started. If the nose defender is slow, that gives the C time to react and stay with him. Surely the G isn't going to be so stupid as to try to go thru the C to get to the slanting LB; it's not a trap play.
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