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Post by rsmith627 on May 12, 2017 20:05:07 GMT -6
Both of these stories are dumb. Why even get mad at this stuff?? Kids are ignorant but they know when another kid is full of sh!t. More than likely the whole school already knew that both of those kids were morons false .... almost all kids know nothing or close to nothing... because they are kids... as example I enter into evidence exhibit 1, "Coach gccwolverine, what happens in college when you get in trouble? Do the send you to ISS" No son. You get phucin expelled.
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Post by fantom on May 12, 2017 20:10:48 GMT -6
Both of these stories are dumb. Why even get mad at this stuff?? Kids are ignorant but they know when another kid is full of sh!t. More than likely the whole school already knew that both of those kids were morons false .... almost all kids know nothing or close to nothing... because they are kids... as example I enter into evidence exhibit 1, "Coach gccwolverine, what happens in college when you get in trouble? Do the send you to ISS" Bad example. There's no reason why a HS kid would know this. As for whether a kid can play or not, usually they do if he's been around for a while. They've been playing youth league with him and backyard/sandlot with him for years.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 12, 2017 20:47:26 GMT -6
Haha that's funny. I had a kid a few years ago during spring running his mouth in class about how he was going to come out and be a lockdown corner. Literally talked about it from bell to bell about how he was better than the other corners, our receivers sucked and the offensive coaches were "trash". Needless to say he came out for a day and was about the most worthless 150 lbs of flesh in the county in 1s vs 1s with receivers. That segment was filmed and I showed clips of him getting posterized almost every rep to the class with him in it the next day. One of those things you don't want to go to drastic measures to teach someone to watch what they say, but sometimes you have no choice. LOL Both of these stories are dumb. Why even get mad at this stuff?? Kids are ignorant but they know when another kid is full of sh!t. More than likely the whole school already knew that both of those kids were morons For what it's worth the kid had been an a hole in my class all year and had it coming. If it were some random kid who hadn't been giving me problems the previous 6 months I probably wouldn't have done anything.
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Post by larrymoe on May 14, 2017 20:17:41 GMT -6
false .... almost all kids know nothing or close to nothing... because they are kids... as example I enter into evidence exhibit 1, "Coach gccwolverine, what happens in college when you get in trouble? Do the send you to ISS" Bad example. There's no reason why a HS kid would know this. As for whether a kid can play or not, usually they do if he's been around for a while. They've been playing youth league with him and backyard/sandlot with him for years. You think kids still play backyard/sandlot anything let alone football? Besides, kids don't call each other out for crap. I had a kid in class tell everyone he can squat 400lbs. No one corrected him. His max is 185.
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Post by fantom on May 14, 2017 20:21:16 GMT -6
Bad example. There's no reason why a HS kid would know this. As for whether a kid can play or not, usually they do if he's been around for a while. They've been playing youth league with him and backyard/sandlot with him for years. You think kids still play backyard/sandlot anything let alone football? Yeah, they do. I can't speak for there but they do here.
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Post by CS on May 14, 2017 20:41:59 GMT -6
You think kids still play backyard/sandlot anything let alone football? Yeah, they do. I can't speak for there but they do here. Seriously...kids rip on each other all the time here
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Post by larrymoe on May 15, 2017 6:57:21 GMT -6
You think kids still play backyard/sandlot anything let alone football? Yeah, they do. I can't speak for there but they do here. Pick a community in Central Illinois on any given day and I doubt you see more than 10 kids even outside.
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Post by StraightFlexin on May 18, 2017 9:05:36 GMT -6
Here is a new one. I just took a wide open umbrella from a kid in the hall way. Todays weather, 86 and no chance of rain. Im on the second floor in the middle of the school, how the hell did this random jack ass make it that far without some idiot stopping him? It took every bit of strength in my body not to break it in half right in front of him and throw it in the garbage.
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Post by fshamrock on May 18, 2017 9:53:26 GMT -6
new thing for me: ID badges...for some reason the geniuses decided that kids all have to wear one at all times. So at least twice a week as I'm walking through the hall thinking about something that matters like lunch or my chances later with the wife, I get some hen telling me "coach that young man just walked right past you without his ID on!" so I say "oh sorry I was preoccupied"...or even worse I run over to make a copy and some hen stops me for not having MY ID on..."we have to model good behavior for the kids!!" gimmie a break...whoever's idea this was should be fired....we've created a stupid rule that's really hard to enforce and has no tangible benefit when those kids got caught breaking crap in one of the classrooms, a teacher sees them and they run off...but guess what..they took their ID's off those crafty criminals...so no benefit there, and I'm not real sure that the potential school shooter is going to head into the building ready to blast away but then turn around and go home because he got stopped for not having an ID badge on. "dude did you plant the C-4" "naw man that old lady stopped me because I didn't have my badge on...operation 666 murder is aborted" "curse that ironclad security system!"
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Post by newt21 on May 18, 2017 11:41:18 GMT -6
new thing for me: ID badges...for some reason the geniuses decided that kids all have to wear one at all times. So at least twice a week as I'm walking through the hall thinking about something that matters like lunch or my chances later with the wife, I get some hen telling me "coach that young man just walked right past you without his ID on!" so I say "oh sorry I was preoccupied"...or even worse I run over to make a copy and some hen stops me for not having MY ID on..."we have to model good behavior for the kids!!" gimmie a break...whoever's idea this was should be fired....we've created a stupid rule that's really hard to enforce and has no tangible benefit when those kids got caught breaking crap in one of the classrooms, a teacher sees them and they run off...but guess what..they took their ID's off those crafty criminals...so no benefit there, and I'm not real sure that the potential school shooter is going to head into the building ready to blast away but then turn around and go home because he got stopped for not having an ID badge on. "dude did you plant the C-4" "naw man that old lady stopped me because I didn't have my badge on...operation 666 murder is aborted" "curse that ironclad security system!" Our school did that. I'm on our leadership team, and the numbers were crunched and those stupid ID's, lanyards, etc. ended up costing the school in the ballpark of $5,000 to buy them and replace them when kids inevitably lost them. Ended up scrapping the whole thing (thank goodness) due to the cost and "bang for your buck"/lack thereof they provided.
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Post by coachriley on May 18, 2017 13:04:16 GMT -6
new thing for me: ID badges...for some reason the geniuses decided that kids all have to wear one at all times. So at least twice a week as I'm walking through the hall thinking about something that matters like lunch or my chances later with the wife, I get some hen telling me "coach that young man just walked right past you without his ID on!" so I say "oh sorry I was preoccupied"...or even worse I run over to make a copy and some hen stops me for not having MY ID on..."we have to model good behavior for the kids!!" gimmie a break...whoever's idea this was should be fired....we've created a stupid rule that's really hard to enforce and has no tangible benefit when those kids got caught breaking crap in one of the classrooms, a teacher sees them and they run off...but guess what..they took their ID's off those crafty criminals...so no benefit there, and I'm not real sure that the potential school shooter is going to head into the building ready to blast away but then turn around and go home because he got stopped for not having an ID badge on. "dude did you plant the C-4" "naw man that old lady stopped me because I didn't have my badge on...operation 666 murder is aborted" "curse that ironclad security system!" Our school did that. I'm on our leadership team, and the numbers were crunched and those stupid ID's, lanyards, etc. ended up costing the school in the ballpark of $5,000 to buy them and replace them when kids inevitably lost them. Ended up scrapping the whole thing (thank goodness) due to the cost and "bang for your buck"/lack thereof they provided. The schools I've been at the past two years have had them, and I understand what they say is the importance of them, but it turns into just another thing for us to gripe at the kids about and another rule to enforce. Kid doesn't have their ID? send them to the office to get a temporary or buy a new one, forgets to put it back on? send them to the office. It really does seem like it is most hassle than what it is worth.
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Post by gccwolverine on May 18, 2017 14:37:01 GMT -6
new thing for me: ID badges...for some reason the geniuses decided that kids all have to wear one at all times. So at least twice a week as I'm walking through the hall thinking about something that matters like lunch or my chances later with the wife, I get some hen telling me "coach that young man just walked right past you without his ID on!" so I say "oh sorry I was preoccupied"...or even worse I run over to make a copy and some hen stops me for not having MY ID on..."we have to model good behavior for the kids!!" gimmie a break...whoever's idea this was should be fired....we've created a stupid rule that's really hard to enforce and has no tangible benefit when those kids got caught breaking crap in one of the classrooms, a teacher sees them and they run off...but guess what..they took their ID's off those crafty criminals...so no benefit there, and I'm not real sure that the potential school shooter is going to head into the building ready to blast away but then turn around and go home because he got stopped for not having an ID badge on. "dude did you plant the C-4" "naw man that old lady stopped me because I didn't have my badge on...operation 666 murder is aborted" "curse that ironclad security system!"
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Post by jtimmerman53 on May 19, 2017 9:41:08 GMT -6
I just need to vent about one of my classes this year. I've only been teaching for three yearsw so I acknowledge the sample size is small but this is the first time in my limted experience that I hve had a class, not just two or three bad students, but an entire class that just makes me not want to be a teacher anymore. This is a class of about 18 students and I struggle daily with all but maybe 4 of them. Now not all of them are behavior problems per se but of that 18 there are 12 of them that are going into the final exam next week who must pass the final in order to pass the class. I have never had numbers that high; I mean I don't have 12 people in danger of failing for my other history classes combined!
But what frustrates me the most is that when I stood up in front of the room and laid it all out for them and explained their dire situation in a broad sense... THEY LAUGHED! They actually thought it was funny that the majority of them are failing the class! How do I work with kids like this? I know some of you have crazier porblems than this but for a young teacher like myself, this is the first time I've had a class as a whole that makes me feel like banging my head agains the wall and wondering why I chose to be a teacher.
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Post by newt21 on May 19, 2017 9:53:01 GMT -6
I just need to vent about one of my classes this year. I've only been teaching for three yearsw so I acknowledge the sample size is small but this is the first time in my limted experience that I hve had a class, not just two or three bad students, but an entire class that just makes me not want to be a teacher anymore. This is a class of about 18 students and I struggle daily with all but maybe 4 of them. Now not all of them are behavior problems per se but of that 18 there are 12 of them that are going into the final exam next week who must pass the final in order to pass the class. I have never had numbers that high; I mean I don't have 12 people in danger of failing for my other history classes combined! But what frustrates me the most is that when I stood up in front of the room and laid it all out for them and explained their dire situation in a broad sense... THEY LAUGHED! They actually thought it was funny that the majority of them are failing the class! How do I work with kids like this? I know some of you have crazier porblems than this but for a young teacher like myself, this is the first time I've had a class as a whole that makes me feel like banging my head agains the wall and wondering why I chose to be a teacher. /rant You can take a horse to water, but can't make it drink it. I remind myself of this every day a middle school girl refuses to participate. You give them what they earn, if it's a constant problem then you call home, but beyond that your hands are tied.
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Post by rosey65 on May 19, 2017 10:25:02 GMT -6
I just need to vent about one of my classes this year. I've only been teaching for three yearsw so I acknowledge the sample size is small but this is the first time in my limted experience that I hve had a class, not just two or three bad students, but an entire class that just makes me not want to be a teacher anymore. This is a class of about 18 students and I struggle daily with all but maybe 4 of them. Now not all of them are behavior problems per se but of that 18 there are 12 of them that are going into the final exam next week who must pass the final in order to pass the class. I have never had numbers that high; I mean I don't have 12 people in danger of failing for my other history classes combined! But what frustrates me the most is that when I stood up in front of the room and laid it all out for them and explained their dire situation in a broad sense... THEY LAUGHED! They actually thought it was funny that the majority of them are failing the class! How do I work with kids like this? I know some of you have crazier porblems than this but for a young teacher like myself, this is the first time I've had a class as a whole that makes me feel like banging my head agains the wall and wondering why I chose to be a teacher. /rant The world needs life-long fast food workers, too. We've all had these classes. Hang in there, man. These classes aren't common, and you'll get better at dealing with them as you keep teaching. You got this!!!
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Post by rsmith627 on May 19, 2017 10:51:23 GMT -6
Yesterday a girl made me rage by asking how long our quiz was, as if she were being inconvenienced. I don't even know why this made me rage.
Must be getting close to the end of the year.
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Post by tothehouse on May 19, 2017 11:05:15 GMT -6
I forgot about this one....
About 5 years ago or so I'm starting class. I'm giving the class instructions. Got everyone's attention.
Kid's phone rings. Not the biggest deal in the world...but....
HE TAKES THE CALL. Now I'm a little more interested in how bad I'm going to discipline this kid.
AND THEN IT HAPPENS!!!!!!!
I walk over..."Hey Billy...gotta get off the phone man!"
He turns away from me slightly...AS HE'S HOLDING UP HIS INDEX FINGER IN THE "Gimme a second" mode!!!!!!!!!!!
Like..."just hang on...almost finished"
I PHUCKING LOST IT!!!
I said..."In less than a second....you're gone!" and sent his ass away.
I rarely hand out referrals. Maybe 10 in the last 15 years. When Admin gets one from me they know I'm pissed. This...warranted one.
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Post by silkyice on May 19, 2017 11:09:19 GMT -6
I forgot about this one.... About 5 years ago or so I'm starting class. I'm giving the class instructions. Got everyone's attention. Kid's phone rings. Not the biggest deal in the world...but.... HE TAKES THE CALL. Now I'm a little more interested in how bad I'm going to discipline this kid. AND THEN IT HAPPENS!!!!!!! I walk over..."Hey Billy...gotta get off the phone man!" He turns away from me slightly...AS HE'S HOLDING UP HIS INDEX FINGER IN THE "Gimme a second" mode!!!!!!!!!!! Like..."just hang on...almost finished" I PHUCKING LOST IT!!! I said..."In less than a second....you're gone!" and sent his ass away. I rarely hand out referrals. Maybe 10 in the last 15 years. When Admin gets one from me they know I'm pissed. This...warranted one. Warranted expulsion! At least week suspension.
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Post by tothehouse on May 19, 2017 11:14:32 GMT -6
I kinda gave the PG version of what I said to the kid. I don't rage often in class. That was a rage day. Especially to the entitled kid that had obviously never been told no before. I was close to putting my hands on him and raging him out the door. Complete douche.
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Post by vicvinegar on May 20, 2017 7:54:56 GMT -6
Defiance/Insubordination: we have kids that literally will not do ANYTHING you ask, pretty sure if I asked a few of them to breathe, they would pass out. Administration with No Backbone: Had a kid tell my wife "F*** you B!***, I ain't gonna do a f***in' thing you say", there was a 5 minute conference with this student and she was back in her class the next day. Parents: I'm a PE teacher, and they expect their kids to make an A because it's PE. Turns out breathing isn't enough to pass my class, and when little Suzie is killing grass (from not moving), she's not going to pass either. I have a LOT I could say about my administration, but the one thing they do have is a backbone. So when a student is insubordinate, I just get a big smile on my face. I just call security and they will walk OR DRAG the student out of my classroom. Makes for great entertainment! Plus I know I they won't be back in my classroom for a few days.
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Post by carookie on May 20, 2017 8:27:18 GMT -6
I just need to vent about one of my classes this year. I've only been teaching for three yearsw so I acknowledge the sample size is small but this is the first time in my limted experience that I hve had a class, not just two or three bad students, but an entire class that just makes me not want to be a teacher anymore. This is a class of about 18 students and I struggle daily with all but maybe 4 of them. Now not all of them are behavior problems per se but of that 18 there are 12 of them that are going into the final exam next week who must pass the final in order to pass the class. I have never had numbers that high; I mean I don't have 12 people in danger of failing for my other history classes combined! But what frustrates me the most is that when I stood up in front of the room and laid it all out for them and explained their dire situation in a broad sense... THEY LAUGHED! They actually thought it was funny that the majority of them are failing the class! How do I work with kids like this? I know some of you have crazier porblems than this but for a young teacher like myself, this is the first time I've had a class as a whole that makes me feel like banging my head agains the wall and wondering why I chose to be a teacher. /rant I've actually always thought this was best. I know that technically they aren't supposed to bunch all the turds in one class (violates the doctrine of 'least restrictive environment') but to me this makes matters a lot easier. I know which class is going to be difficult, and can plan accordingly, and they don't go screwing things up for the 90% of the kids that actually want to try.
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Post by coachklee on May 20, 2017 8:47:52 GMT -6
I just need to vent about one of my classes this year. I've only been teaching for three yearsw so I acknowledge the sample size is small but this is the first time in my limted experience that I hve had a class, not just two or three bad students, but an entire class that just makes me not want to be a teacher anymore. This is a class of about 18 students and I struggle daily with all but maybe 4 of them. Now not all of them are behavior problems per se but of that 18 there are 12 of them that are going into the final exam next week who must pass the final in order to pass the class. I have never had numbers that high; I mean I don't have 12 people in danger of failing for my other history classes combined! But what frustrates me the most is that when I stood up in front of the room and laid it all out for them and explained their dire situation in a broad sense... THEY LAUGHED! They actually thought it was funny that the majority of them are failing the class! How do I work with kids like this? I know some of you have crazier porblems than this but for a young teacher like myself, this is the first time I've had a class as a whole that makes me feel like banging my head agains the wall and wondering why I chose to be a teacher. /rant You can take a horse to water, but can't make it drink it. I remind myself of this every day a middle school girl refuses to participate. You give them what they earn, if it's a constant problem then you call home, but beyond that your hands are tied. ...but you can make them awful thirsty with a block of salt so be salty. Of course, they have to lick that block of salt 1st...
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Post by coachshepherd on May 22, 2017 7:12:38 GMT -6
I just need to vent about one of my classes this year. I've only been teaching for three yearsw so I acknowledge the sample size is small but this is the first time in my limted experience that I hve had a class, not just two or three bad students, but an entire class that just makes me not want to be a teacher anymore. This is a class of about 18 students and I struggle daily with all but maybe 4 of them. Now not all of them are behavior problems per se but of that 18 there are 12 of them that are going into the final exam next week who must pass the final in order to pass the class. I have never had numbers that high; I mean I don't have 12 people in danger of failing for my other history classes combined! But what frustrates me the most is that when I stood up in front of the room and laid it all out for them and explained their dire situation in a broad sense... THEY LAUGHED! They actually thought it was funny that the majority of them are failing the class! How do I work with kids like this? I know some of you have crazier porblems than this but for a young teacher like myself, this is the first time I've had a class as a whole that makes me feel like banging my head agains the wall and wondering why I chose to be a teacher. /rant I'm not trying to rub it in, but I guess it gives me some solace that I'm not the only one dealing with situations like this. Hope it improves for you.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 25, 2017 15:25:33 GMT -6
Had a new one today. We have a unit test.
Kid starts flipping out because we already took a quiz on some of the stuff that we were testing on.
I tell him to quit his whining and take the test. He goes off on me cussing me out.
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Post by blb on May 25, 2017 15:43:29 GMT -6
Had a new one today. We have a unit test. Kid starts flipping out because we already took a quiz on some of the stuff that we were testing on. I tell him to quit his whining and take the test. He goes off on me cussing me out.
Obviously your fault for having too high expectations for L'il Darling.
Oh wait - haven't we been told that if we raise our expectations, the students will rise to meet them?
That's the answer to all that ails our educational system - higher expectations?
Never mind.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 25, 2017 15:44:31 GMT -6
Had a new one today. We have a unit test. Kid starts flipping out because we already took a quiz on some of the stuff that we were testing on. I tell him to quit his whining and take the test. He goes off on me cussing me out.
Obviously your fault for having too high expectations for L'il Darling.
Oh wait - aren't we told that if we raise our expectations, the students will rise to meet them?
That's the answer to all that ails our educational system - higher expectations?
One size is obviously fits all.
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Post by blb on May 25, 2017 15:56:12 GMT -6
One side is obviously fits all.
Well, if they don't meet those "higher expectations" -
Obvuiously your fault as a teacher,
and will be reflected in your evaluation.
And perhaps ability to keep your position, or get another one.
Just spend all your time teaching to the standardized tests and give them 'A's.'
THAT's what the "expectations" are.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 25, 2017 16:02:46 GMT -6
One side is obviously fits all.
Well, if they don't meet those "higher expectations" -
Obvuiously your fault as a teacher,
and will be reflected in your evaluation.
And perhaps ability to keep your position, or get another one.
Just spend all your time teaching to the standardized tests and give them 'A's.'
THAT's what the "expectations" are.
Fortunately I don't have a standardized test in Spanish to teach to. I do have a department that is old school and has these stupid unit tests I have to teach to. We learn about Spanish instead of learning Spanish. I'm going rogue next year. Already started planning. The worst part is my admin thinks I'm doing a great job. I do with the stuff I'm given to work with, but could do so much better.
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Post by famar on May 25, 2017 18:29:03 GMT -6
I work in an alternative school, so this issue is particular to my daily existence but it may apply to some of you as well:
When your supervisor, who has a background in social work and not education, tells you and the teacher you work with how to run your classroom, and when her ideas prove to be wrong she comes back and tells you to run it a different way, which happens to be how you were running it in the first place.
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Post by larrymoe on May 26, 2017 9:43:07 GMT -6
This one is petty, but really pissed me off this spring. Had a kid who started wearing a Spartan Race Beast finisher shirt to school. Wore it every week for a month. For those of you who don't know the Spartan Beast is a 12-14 mile long rice through mud, hills, etc with 30+ obstacles thrown in. I did one last weekend and it took me 6 hours to do and yesterday was the first day I felt normal over it.
This kid that wears it doesn't run in PE because he "had too many concussions in JFL and running makes him dizzy". So, I asked him about the shirt one day. He said he and his mom finished it in Ohio last spring. He hasn't participated in PE in three years. Personally I think he's lying on both ends- I think it's mom's shirt too.
Why this irritates me is staff and students alike think I'm being a dick for questioning that the kid did the race. "Just let him be" is the response I keep getting.
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