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Post by wolverine55 on Jun 7, 2017 15:52:57 GMT -6
Rage probably isn't the right word for this, more like "made me chuckle", but when a player posts an instagram message with the quote "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard" and then doesn't show up to any of the first three summer workouts...
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 7, 2017 16:04:57 GMT -6
Rage probably isn't the right word for this, more like "made me chuckle", but when a player posts an instagram message with the quote "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard" and then doesn't show up to any of the first three summer workouts... That is funny, and probably deserving of its own thread. Could fit in the D1bound thread too.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 21, 2017 5:56:32 GMT -6
When you're at a 7 on 7 and the opposing defense is running nothing but man when you know they are almost exclusively a zone team.
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Post by fantom on Jun 21, 2017 8:10:37 GMT -6
When you're at a 7 on 7 and the opposing defense is running nothing but man when you know they are almost exclusively a zone team. ... or, in short yardage, the offense lines a RB up 6 inches behind where the guard would be, takes two steps forward, turns around, and catches a TD pass that you can't defend.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 21, 2017 8:17:21 GMT -6
When you're at a 7 on 7 and the opposing defense is running nothing but man when you know they are almost exclusively a zone team. ... or, in short yardage, the offense lines a RB up 6 inches behind where the guard would be, takes two steps forward, turns around, and catches a TD pass that you can't defend. LOL I don't do that. I don't even throw a lot of our perimeter screens at 7 on 7 because that just isn't the aspect of the game I want to spend the summer on. We have all of camp for that stuff.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 21, 2017 11:30:48 GMT -6
When you're at a 7 on 7 and the opposing defense is running nothing but man when you know they are almost exclusively a zone team. ... or, in short yardage, the offense lines a RB up 6 inches behind where the guard would be, takes two steps forward, turns around, and catches a TD pass that you can't defend. HAHAHAHAHA, the team we played in the finals would sprint out and the check down if everything was covered was to throw to RB who would be standing next to the center.
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Post by eaglemountie on Jun 21, 2017 11:52:26 GMT -6
The last couple of posts are one of the many reasons why 7on7 is not football...
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Post by dytmook on Jun 21, 2017 12:25:12 GMT -6
We stay true to our schemes in 7 on 7 but if you're doing something silly we will mess with you right back.
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Post by Old Pro on Jun 21, 2017 12:52:20 GMT -6
Most 7 on 7 tourneys we've played in don't allow you to complete a pass " in the box". Not gonna throw one there in the real world anyways!
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Post by 3rdandlong on Jun 21, 2017 13:47:29 GMT -6
My favorite is 2 man coverage. Whenever we get a heavy dose of it in a 7 on 7, I will line up in 2X2, motion the back out, let the QB run right up the gut where the MLB vacated because he was covering the RB who motioned.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 21, 2017 14:16:51 GMT -6
My favorite is 2 man coverage. Whenever we get a heavy dose of it in a 7 on 7, I will line up in 2X2, motion the back out, let the QB run right up the gut where the MLB vacated because he was covering the RB who motioned. That's what I tell my LBs when they try to cheat to their pass drops on alignment, "They'll run the draw if you do that"
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Post by fantom on Jun 21, 2017 14:29:15 GMT -6
My favorite is 2 man coverage. Whenever we get a heavy dose of it in a 7 on 7, I will line up in 2X2, motion the back out, let the QB run right up the gut where the MLB vacated because he was covering the RB who motioned. Trouble is, I've never been in a tournament where they allow running.
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Post by bigmoot on Jun 21, 2017 14:32:47 GMT -6
I do 7v7 locally against coaches I've known for years. it's competitive but we are all working on our stuff. if time needs to be called and a kid coached up...ok. #1 goal is to get bettre for the season, not win some silly trophy.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Jun 21, 2017 16:17:10 GMT -6
My favorite is 2 man coverage. Whenever we get a heavy dose of it in a 7 on 7, I will line up in 2X2, motion the back out, let the QB run right up the gut where the MLB vacated because he was covering the RB who motioned. Trouble is, I've never been in a tournament where they allow running. Neither have I. And motioning to empty isn't allowed either. But I do it once (usually after struggling offensively because of this ridiculous defense) and then yell for our defense to go out on the field. It gets my point across
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Post by dbeck84 on Jun 21, 2017 19:12:19 GMT -6
This is why I love the way we run 7on7. Each team gets 20 plays from the 40 and 5 plays from the 10. No score, no moving chains, no trophies. Everyone just works on their own stuff.
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Post by famar on Jun 21, 2017 21:20:55 GMT -6
The last couple of posts are one of the many reasons why 7on7 is not football... How about when coaches brag about winning 7 on 7 tournaments? Seriously, celebrate winning a league, district, sectional, or state championship.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 21, 2017 22:04:09 GMT -6
coaches who
-won't help set up the field -don't take attendance for their position group -won't contribute or coach guys in the weight room -don't care to learn how to enter data into hudl -think they suddenly are Bill Belichek on thursdays during JV games -don't understand the scheme but want to tell you it's wrong -swear there's only one way to defend something and that's the only way it can be done successfully -think the players want to hear about how good they were when they played -try to big league the other coaches when the head coach isn't around
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Post by tippecanoe41 on Jun 25, 2017 1:26:19 GMT -6
Best we ever had was about 6-8 years ago, we had a school board member whose best friend's son played on our team. Played QB. Threw a good ball. And if you stayed in his ear constantly, could do alright. Dumb as sin, but the best we had. We ran the ball a lot. Had a pretty good record. Not amazing but not terrible. This school board member came out and watched a couple practices. I guess he didn't think about the fact that he doesn't know anything about football anyway, so watching a practice really won't give him any ammunition since he has no clue what's going on. haha.
Anyway, at one point, he asked our head coach why we pass so much at 7 on 7 tournaments but won't pass during a game. Our head coach, who I think must have 40 million dollars in an account somewhere because he just does not care, said something like no phukkin chit man, they FORCE us to pass the ball in those tournaments since there aren't D-linemen. Beyond that, your friend's son is so damn dumb that we tell him to take three steps and throw it to the #1 WR hitch route to the right or OUT OF BOUNDS if that is covered and he'll throw a pick to the fade route over to the left. Something to that effect. Anyway, it made him shut up. I felt it was a very bold move, but you can't argue with results haha.
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Post by tippecanoe41 on Jun 25, 2017 1:33:24 GMT -6
For a while I got really furious going to clinics. It was like three clinics in a row I saw some guy drawing an offense, and he was talking about an outside play to the right as he drew it, and as he drew I just realized he wasn't in anyway getting the numbers he needed to run that play.
Then they explained to me how the play worked. The TB ran some ridiculous 40 yd time. So he said we just do this, and "SPEED KILLS, and scribbled a RB route towards the right of the diagram."
Oh Yah? You think I need to pay you to understand if I have a freak of nature kid on my team, all I need to do is go "Billy to the right, billy to the left?" haha I mean if I'm running any offense, I can figure out how to use a 4.4 40 kid to our advantage.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 25, 2017 3:50:51 GMT -6
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 25, 2017 6:12:43 GMT -6
For a while I got really furious going to clinics. It was like three clinics in a row I saw some guy drawing an offense, and he was talking about an outside play to the right as he drew it, and as he drew I just realized he wasn't in anyway getting the numbers he needed to run that play. Then they explained to me how the play worked. The TB ran some ridiculous 40 yd time. So he said we just do this, and "SPEED KILLS, and scribbled a RB route towards the right of the diagram." Oh Yah? You think I need to pay you to understand if I have a freak of nature kid on my team, all I need to do is go "Billy to the right, billy to the left?" haha I mean if I'm running any offense, I can figure out how to use a 4.4 40 kid to our advantage. LOL clinic rages could be a whole different topic that I may post once clinic season rolls back around. I have a bunch for that topic.
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Post by fshamrock on Jun 27, 2017 7:40:27 GMT -6
In TX the athletics governing body is set to rule on whether or not high school coaches can "officially" coach 7 on 7. Currently the rule is that they can not, so everybody just gets a dad or former player to be the pretend coach. A lot of guys are excited about seeing the rule pass so they can get involved with the players, which is good...but I'm a little apprehensive. Haven't heard anybody mention whether or not we might be getting a stipend for what constitutes a third sport played in the summer, I been around long enough to know that this thing will grow into a monster where we are having practice every day and probably meetings and who knows what else. I wish they would privatize the whole thing and take the schools out completely, let the kids go join some team and call themselves the spiders and go play 7 on 7...leave me out of it. If some kid decides not to play football so they can focus on 7 on 7...then that probably wasn't going to be much of player anyway IMO
I hate 7 on 7
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Post by fantom on Jun 27, 2017 8:02:11 GMT -6
In TX the athletics governing body is set to rule on whether or not high school coaches can "officially" coach 7 on 7. Currently the rule is that they can not, so everybody just gets a dad or former player to be the pretend coach. A lot of guys are excited about seeing the rule pass so they can get involved with the players, which is good...but I'm a little apprehensive. Haven't heard anybody mention whether or not we might be getting a stipend for what constitutes a third sport played in the summer, I been around long enough to know that this thing will grow into a monster where we are having practice every day and probably meetings and who knows what else. I wish they would privatize the whole thing and take the schools out completely, let the kids go join some team and call themselves the spiders and go play 7 on 7...leave me out of it. If some kid decides not to play football so they can focus on 7 on 7...then that probably wasn't going to be much of player anyway IMO I hate 7 on 7 I don't think that you really wish that at all. Some of the potential fallout from independent 7 on 7 teams (And these have gone way beyond "potential" in some areas): - Recruiting kids from one HS to another that's favored by the 7 on 7 coaches. - Confusing kids when the 7 on 7 coaches teach different techniques and/or have different philosophies and priorities that you do. - Convincing kids to miss your workouts and team events to participate in 7 on 7. - Violations of state association or NCAA recruiting rules that may embarrass or cause sanctions for your program even though you had nothing to do with them (See "Basketball, AAU").
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Post by SconnieOC on Jun 27, 2017 8:52:12 GMT -6
Coaches that yell "watch the option!", "watch the fake!" etc and expect the players to know what to do Coaches that refuse to learn how an offensive system works (it's not hard to find information on spread-inside zone, or read the dang playbook) but are the first to tell you why it doesn't work... We had a kid say something of this nature during a practice probably 5 years ago that I still chuckle at today: [Playing DL and taking his sweet a$$ time to get in his stance]: "WATCH THE RUN! WATCH THE PASS! THEY COULD PRETTY MUCH DO ANYTHING HERE!" I lost it lol Ran the triple in college. Every year, without fail, when we would scrimmage the defense, there would be idiots who would say "watch the option" damn near every play. It turned into a big joke on offense, but those guys were always serious.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 8, 2017 7:37:43 GMT -6
To go with previous posts on signing day in this thread...I'm starting to get there with the D3 "signings." I understand schools wanting publicity--both the HS and college involved. Heck, that's been one of my biggest arguments for having them even at this level. But, last spring, we had five kids "sign", one with a JUCO and 4 with D3 schools. This is all sports, not just football. Well, as the summer has evolved, I've learned that three of the four d3 "signings" have already decided not to go to that school in the fall...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 8:28:20 GMT -6
The thing that makes me rage in our game? Just the stupidity that has taken over from governing bodies and people who have bought into it. And most of the stupidity that has taken over our game? Does not apply to other sports. Ex. Coaches limited in coaching kids in the offseason, but nobody says anything about baseball and basketball, and soccer. And literally those sports are 11 mo. a year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 8:36:11 GMT -6
When a coach asks for help with a particular part of their scheme, whatever it is , and and another coach suggests they run an entirely different scheme altogether
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Post by blb on Jul 11, 2017 7:53:58 GMT -6
When a coach asks for help with a particular part of their scheme, whatever it is , and and another coach suggests they run an entirely different scheme altogether
This is why it is important to stay on topic in any thread one replies to. Or else don't reply.
Human beings as a species do not appreciate unsolicited advice - having a "better idea" - and typically will resent the person offering it for doing so.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jul 11, 2017 7:57:31 GMT -6
When a coach asks for help with a particular part of their scheme, whatever it is , and and another coach suggests they run an entirely different scheme altogether Unsolicited suggestions in general make me a rage, especially during the game. "Hey coach, call this play." Sweet. We didn't rep it all week because it wasn't in the game plan I shared out, and nobody ever suggested it when I asked for desired additions and subtractions.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 11, 2017 12:40:05 GMT -6
In TX the athletics governing body is set to rule on whether or not high school coaches can "officially" coach 7 on 7. Currently the rule is that they can not, so everybody just gets a dad or former player to be the pretend coach. A lot of guys are excited about seeing the rule pass so they can get involved with the players, which is good...but I'm a little apprehensive. Haven't heard anybody mention whether or not we might be getting a stipend for what constitutes a third sport played in the summer, I been around long enough to know that this thing will grow into a monster where we are having practice every day and probably meetings and who knows what else. I wish they would privatize the whole thing and take the schools out completely, let the kids go join some team and call themselves the spiders and go play 7 on 7...leave me out of it. If some kid decides not to play football so they can focus on 7 on 7...then that probably wasn't going to be much of player anyway IMO I hate 7 on 7 I don't think that you really wish that at all. Some of the potential fallout from independent 7 on 7 teams (And these have gone way beyond "potential" in some areas): - Recruiting kids from one HS to another that's favored by the 7 on 7 coaches. - Confusing kids when the 7 on 7 coaches teach different techniques and/or have different philosophies and priorities that you do. - Convincing kids to miss your workouts and team events to participate in 7 on 7. - Violations of state association or NCAA recruiting rules that may embarrass or cause sanctions for your program even though you had nothing to do with them (See "Basketball, AAU"). We have private 7-7 clubs in Southern California. The biggest issue I've had is that they tell these kids you should be playing a specific position and if your high school coach doesn't play you there you need to transfer because that coach is going to cost you a scholarship. Of course the parents who are paying the guy eat it up like it's gospel. We've lost multiple potential all league players because of this. We've never really had an issue with conflict of events or anything with scheme. (We are a spread offense and 2 high defense in our base). Even though it probably isn't defined as an "issue" because it doesn't effect the program, I have a personal issue with 7-7 coaches trying to take credit for developing scholarship players that they handpicked to participate in their club.
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