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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 29, 2014 19:16:54 GMT -6
I hate the "scouting report overview" for the entire defensive unit. Perhaps it is a bit of a jaded opinion though, because at the last school I worked at, the DC seemed to be doing it simply to reinforce/think outloud for himself on Monday.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 29, 2014 19:18:08 GMT -6
Team defense at a small school is awful. The scout offense cant even get a snap, nobody can possibly block and you can forget about finding any athletes that will scare your first unit. That's when I wish I had hired the 23 year old coaches who could still play the game.
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Post by blb on Jan 29, 2014 19:20:36 GMT -6
Coach, look at what the thread is about. It's not about what we think is important. It's about stuff that we don't like doing. If there is no part of practice that you don't like you're a lucky man.
Point taken.
There are a lot of things about Football that can be routine drudgery.
That's what makes it (and the people who play and coach) different-tougher-special.
The stuff I don't like doing I delegate (Warm-Up, conditioning). Strangely, that's when I really get bored.
Plus, I turned 60 a month ago. I figure my days doing this are numbered. What I find boring-hate doing now I'll miss like all get out when I no longer can.
That includes weekends and meetings!
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Post by coachrdc on Jan 29, 2014 19:50:39 GMT -6
Team defense at a small school is awful. The scout offense cant even get a snap, nobody can possibly block and you can forget about finding any athletes that will scare your first unit. That's when I wish I had hired the 23 year old coaches who could still play the game. This, although to the getting a snap off part, I played D3 ball and even then we used a nerf ball for all put scout o snaps, QB either took the ball off your back or you threw the Nerf past his dome. Actually saw our D coordinator loose it (in a good way) one day when one of our scout QBs got hit pretty hard where the sun don't shine. Scout teams at small schools are a necessary evil, but I love those kids nonetheless. As long as some of them survive their freshman year and come back for their sophomore its a success.
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Post by coachg13 on Jan 29, 2014 20:41:51 GMT -6
Team defense at a small school is awful. The scout offense cant even get a snap, nobody can possibly block and you can forget about finding any athletes that will scare your first unit. That's when I wish I had hired the 23 year old coaches who could still play the game. This. So true and didn't even think about it. Scout offense is so awful at a small school. Got so bad our 50 yr old rb coach who played QB became our scout team QB. Wish we had 5 200 lb coaches to play line. It still baffles me after I spend the time drawing up the plays as to how a kid can't look at a picture and block the guy it says to block, or run where the line points.
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Post by carookie on Jan 29, 2014 20:43:58 GMT -6
I hate tip drill I mean it always turns in to a screw off period... kids have fun with it so thats a bonus but I think some guy made it up one day and everyone else in the country bought in to it teams ive coached have done it every year ive coached, and in these 8 years... i cant remember a single time, in a game where we got a tip up in to the air, and someone on our team intercepted it. I think it is a waste of practice time I have not coached "tip drill" in about 25 years. That has to be about as useful as jumping jacks. WHOOOOAAA, Whats wrong with jumping jacks? How else are we to spell out our school name in unison?
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Post by carookie on Jan 29, 2014 20:47:36 GMT -6
Anything done on the field with coaches talking and players standing. I work hard not to do it, but then I see some other coach spending his whole indy time talking to his group of players getting them to talk answers back. Then we come together for team, and same coach has a mistake with his position and we have to stop for 5 minutes while he explains what they did wrong.
Ive been on some long winded staffs, and if we are what we repeatedly do those kids would be awesome at standing around listening. Dont get me started on post practice speeches.
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Post by Yash on Jan 29, 2014 21:40:27 GMT -6
Don't stretch then... We start our practice with a 5 minute warm up period that is based around position specific drills. Basically, its the first part of your indy drills that you would do anyways. LB's run the bags, DB's work on shuffle and back pedals. We have no more muscle pulls than we've ever had in the past and it starts practice off on a high tempo. I hated stretching, so I got rid of it.
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Post by Yash on Jan 29, 2014 21:43:56 GMT -6
Being the line coach I despise special teams period I usually try to go do some work on the side but enuff of the line kids are on various special teams we need to be in the vicinity. But my all time least favorite part of practice is any sort of align and assign period where a dc talks for ever and the oline has to take a knee might be a coaching issue but any drill that requires players taking a knee is a waste of time use bags or cans or some thing. 90 plus kids standing around for 11 don't make much sense to me. Granted it's usually a Thursday practice thing. If you have 90 kids, why are your lineman on special teams? We have made a commitment (and we only have 50 kids on varsity) that no lineman will play special teams outside of PAT/FG teams. Not on punt, KOR, KO, Punt return. Get fast guys on there. And if the other team is playing their lineman on special teams we expect our fast kids to run past them. Fat kids suck in space and a lot of special teams are played in space. Plus it gives the lineman 15 more minutes of indy time.
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Post by lions23 on Jan 29, 2014 21:44:41 GMT -6
Coaching running backs during 7 on 7.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 29, 2014 21:56:07 GMT -6
I had to think about this for a while, but the part that I hate most is when my OC turns to me and says, "one more rep, coach." Five reps later he's still trying to get whatever issue fixed.
Meanwhile, it's so dark out we can barely see, the kids have all mentally "checked out", parents are in the parking lot, mad as hell, and I'm guaranteed an email from some ticked off mom by the time I get home.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 29, 2014 22:07:40 GMT -6
I have not coached "tip drill" in about 25 years. That has to be about as useful as jumping jacks. WHOOOOAAA, Whats wrong with jumping jacks? How else are we to spell out our school name in unison? Yeah coach, I don't see why you have a problem with jumping jacks?
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Post by coachplaa on Jan 29, 2014 23:53:55 GMT -6
Agree about water breaks too. We've cut them out and have two water carts, one on each side of our field, and make our "injured" kids fill water bottles and walk them around during practice.
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Post by joris85 on Jan 30, 2014 0:56:39 GMT -6
I hate the rah-rah stuff some of our coaches like to kick in at the end of practice.
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Post by s73 on Jan 30, 2014 6:34:13 GMT -6
I know this is not exactly practice related more like pre-practice, I HATE anything equipment related. Especially 1 minute before practice when a kid runs into the office telling me his missing his practice pants/ jersey / thigh pad, etc.
Again, not really practice but special teams was already taken.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 7:13:49 GMT -6
I know this is not exactly practice related more like pre-practice, I HATE anything equipment related. Especially 1 minute before practice when a kid runs into the office telling me his missing his practice pants/ jersey / thigh pad, etc. Again, not really practice but special teams was already taken. our guys do updowns on the spot before they get replacement gear. It cuts down on that. Also, they do updowns if their lockers are unlocked. We will put a lock on for them and they can do updowns for that too. if you want to cut down on that nonsense, you have to make it important. So, more stuff I hate about practice? when a position coach with no business butting into another coaches area tries to "drop knowledge" and show the kids what he knows (and completely screws up and is doing nothing but confusing the kids)- or if they see a technique being taught and they question it right in front of the kids "you don't teach it like this? when I played for high school xyz, this is how we did it" Yeah, I hate THAT part of practice.
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Post by s73 on Jan 30, 2014 7:27:06 GMT -6
I know this is not exactly practice related more like pre-practice, I HATE anything equipment related. Especially 1 minute before practice when a kid runs into the office telling me his missing his practice pants/ jersey / thigh pad, etc. Again, not really practice but special teams was already taken. our guys do updowns on the spot before they get replacement gear. It cuts down on that. Also, they do updowns if their lockers are unlocked. We will put a lock on for them and they can do updowns for that too. if you want to cut down on that nonsense, you have to make it important. So, more stuff I hate about practice? when a position coach with no business butting into another coaches area tries to "drop knowledge" and show the kids what he knows (and completely screws up and is doing nothing but confusing the kids)- or if they see a technique being taught and they question it right in front of the kids "you don't teach it like this? when I played for high school xyz, this is how we did it" Yeah, I hate THAT part of practice. We do the same thing. I just hate it. Same w/ dudes rolling out late from the trainers & I was unaware they even had any type of issue. I HATE that. We instituted a rule that anyone who see's the trainer w/o the coaches knowledge has to make up the practice "as soon as he is able" w/ post practice conditioning. But still HATE it. In fact, I hate the part of practice where I have to tell the kids about how they will be punished for doing things I hate.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 7:32:24 GMT -6
Oh classic. How about picture day and the first day of school. I hate those practices altogether.
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Post by ItalianStallion on Jan 30, 2014 7:48:12 GMT -6
I can deal with special teams mostly. Until XP/FG where everyone is standing around watching a kid struggle to make 50% of his kicks, including PATs.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 7:53:59 GMT -6
I hate when the trainer drives the golf cart to the field. Our kids drop like flies whenever she drives that cart to the field. "We will call you if we need you. I hear soccer has a bunch of kids "hurt" right now"
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Post by 2adaysfootballcom on Jan 30, 2014 7:59:22 GMT -6
Pre game warm-up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 8:07:46 GMT -6
I know this is not exactly practice related more like pre-practice, I HATE anything equipment related. Especially 1 minute before practice when a kid runs into the office telling me his missing his practice pants/ jersey / thigh pad, etc. Again, not really practice but special teams was already taken. our guys do updowns on the spot before they get replacement gear. It cuts down on that. Also, they do updowns if their lockers are unlocked. We will put a lock on for them and they can do updowns for that too. if you want to cut down on that nonsense, you have to make it important. So, more stuff I hate about practice? when a position coach with no business butting into another coaches area tries to "drop knowledge" and show the kids what he knows (and completely screws up and is doing nothing but confusing the kids)- or if they see a technique being taught and they question it right in front of the kids "you don't teach it like this? when I played for high school xyz, this is how we did it" Yeah, I hate THAT part of practice. This is kind of the opposite but to me just as annoying: I worked with a coach one time who everyday after practice bitched about one of the running backs stances or something his linebackers couldn't get done. BUT...he was the RBs/LBs coach and never really did anything in practice to correct the behavior he was constantly bitching about in the coaching office.
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Post by jg78 on Jan 30, 2014 8:19:06 GMT -6
I hate our general disorganization.
Our players start getting to the field house about 2:10. Our HC is almost never back there at that time. Often, it is a while before gets back there. So none of the coaches or players know what we are doing when we should be getting started doing something productive. And when he does get back there, that's when he starts working on the practice schedule, play script, etc. Things that should be ready to go beforehand, and he has plenty of time for it with no classes of any kind during the school day. And even the practice schedule times we have are meaningless. We go by the general order, but we get way off our time schedule every day. And after practice, our HC almost always wanders over and chats with a parent or two for who knows how long while the rest of the staff goes to his office to wait. He'll eventually come in and we will talk a bit about something relevant and then he'll inevitably end up telling war stories about things that happened at his other schools years ago that I couldn't care less about.
We are very different in that I am a highly punctual, to-the-point person and believe in an organized schedule and doing things efficiently. Coaching requires enough hours as it is without wasting time needlessly. But he is late for everything, including school and coaches meetings. He is also the disciplinarian at our school and his sixth grade son (who rides to school with him) was counted tardy 27 times (more than any other student) in the first semester. On his best day he pulls up in the parking lot as the first bell rings. I told him back in October that I was going to ride to an association in-service meeting by myself instead of with him and another coach. I didn't tell him why, but the reason was I didn't want to be late because I knew I would be if I rode with him. And sure enough, he showed up about 15 minutes after it started. I would have been embarrassed.
Drives me up... the... wall. And if it looks like I'm going to be here for a second season, I'm gonna have to ask if there is something I can do to help us to be more organized before I go crazy.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 8:56:52 GMT -6
I hate our general disorganization. Our players start getting to the field house about 2:10. Our HC is almost never back there at that time. Often, it is a while before gets back there. So none of the coaches or players know what we are doing when we should be getting started doing something productive. And when he does get back there, that's when he starts working on the practice schedule, play script, etc. Things that should be ready to go beforehand, and he has plenty of time for it with no classes of any kind during the school day. And even the practice schedule times we have are meaningless. We go by the general order, but we get way off our time schedule every day. And after practice, our HC almost always wanders over and chats with a parent or two for who knows how long while the rest of the staff goes to his office to wait. He'll eventually come in and we will talk a bit about something relevant and then he'll inevitably end up telling war stories about things that happened at his other schools years ago that I couldn't care less about. We are very different in that I am a highly punctual, to-the-point person and believe in an organized schedule and doing things efficiently. Coaching requires enough hours as it is without wasting time needlessly. But he is late for everything, including school and coaches meetings. He is also the disciplinarian at our school and his sixth grade son (who rides to school with him) was counted tardy 27 times (more than any other student) in the first semester. On his best day he pulls up in the parking lot as the first bell rings. I told him back in October that I was going to ride to an association in-service meeting by myself instead of with him and another coach. I didn't tell him why, but the reason was I didn't want to be late because I knew I would be if I rode with him. And sure enough, he showed up about 15 minutes after it started. I would have been embarrassed. Drives me up... the... wall. And if it looks like I'm going to be here for a second season, I'm gonna have to ask if there is something I can do to help us to be more organized before I go crazy. How about asking the HC if you can meet every night after practice to get a general overview of the next days practice - make suggestions, he can think about it and email /post the next days plan.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 8:58:28 GMT -6
our guys do updowns on the spot before they get replacement gear. It cuts down on that. Also, they do updowns if their lockers are unlocked. We will put a lock on for them and they can do updowns for that too. if you want to cut down on that nonsense, you have to make it important. So, more stuff I hate about practice? when a position coach with no business butting into another coaches area tries to "drop knowledge" and show the kids what he knows (and completely screws up and is doing nothing but confusing the kids)- or if they see a technique being taught and they question it right in front of the kids "you don't teach it like this? when I played for high school xyz, this is how we did it" Yeah, I hate THAT part of practice. This is kind of the opposite but to me just as annoying: I worked with a coach one time who everyday after practice bitched about one of the running backs stances or something his linebackers couldn't get done. BUT...he was the RBs/LBs coach and never really did anything in practice to correct the behavior he was constantly bitching about in the coaching office. And that's why its good to have a "what you see is what you are coaching" kind of philosophy. We always say "we need to coach better because tommy cant seem to play in the B gap" or "we need to do a better job of holding kids accountable because even though we spent 3 hours on gap discipline and alignment/assignment work, tommy keep swimming to the A gap"
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 8:59:18 GMT -6
Me too. I don't like giving pre game pep talk either. "Do your job, lets get out of here with a W" That's my kind of personality.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 30, 2014 9:11:16 GMT -6
I have to say post practice preaching is by far my least favorite part of practice.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 9:20:12 GMT -6
Heres one, the very kids that are always last on the field are always first off it. I hate that.
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Post by jg78 on Jan 30, 2014 9:24:34 GMT -6
I hate our general disorganization. Our players start getting to the field house about 2:10. Our HC is almost never back there at that time. Often, it is a while before gets back there. So none of the coaches or players know what we are doing when we should be getting started doing something productive. And when he does get back there, that's when he starts working on the practice schedule, play script, etc. Things that should be ready to go beforehand, and he has plenty of time for it with no classes of any kind during the school day. And even the practice schedule times we have are meaningless. We go by the general order, but we get way off our time schedule every day. And after practice, our HC almost always wanders over and chats with a parent or two for who knows how long while the rest of the staff goes to his office to wait. He'll eventually come in and we will talk a bit about something relevant and then he'll inevitably end up telling war stories about things that happened at his other schools years ago that I couldn't care less about. We are very different in that I am a highly punctual, to-the-point person and believe in an organized schedule and doing things efficiently. Coaching requires enough hours as it is without wasting time needlessly. But he is late for everything, including school and coaches meetings. He is also the disciplinarian at our school and his sixth grade son (who rides to school with him) was counted tardy 27 times (more than any other student) in the first semester. On his best day he pulls up in the parking lot as the first bell rings. I told him back in October that I was going to ride to an association in-service meeting by myself instead of with him and another coach. I didn't tell him why, but the reason was I didn't want to be late because I knew I would be if I rode with him. And sure enough, he showed up about 15 minutes after it started. I would have been embarrassed. Drives me up... the... wall. And if it looks like I'm going to be here for a second season, I'm gonna have to ask if there is something I can do to help us to be more organized before I go crazy. How about asking the HC if you can meet every night after practice to get a general overview of the next days practice - make suggestions, he can think about it and email /post the next days plan. I am always ready to tell him the time I need (I am the DC, by the way) whenever he wants to know. I think I may ask when we start spring ball if we can do the practice schedule the night before or some time during the day. I have a couple of free periods. I doubt that would speed things up too much, but it couldn't hurt. It's a frustrating situation.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 30, 2014 9:31:42 GMT -6
How about asking the HC if you can meet every night after practice to get a general overview of the next days practice - make suggestions, he can think about it and email /post the next days plan. I am always ready to tell him the time I need (I am the DC, by the way) whenever he wants to know. I think I may ask when we start spring ball if we can do the practice schedule the night before or some time during the day. I have a couple of free periods. I doubt that would speed things up too much, but it couldn't hurt. It's a frustrating situation. I told my assistants that if they wanted any say about our practice plan that theyd better stop by the office after the kids left the locker room. Rarely does anyone bother. So I type up the practice plan each night or early in the am and email it. Some I don't think really read it until they show up to practice and say "Oh I didn't get the email" and I hand them one of the 6 I have printed out. (enabling on my part) The good guys not only show up with their own copy but set up all of their drills while the kids are stretching (a great reason to have a team stretch, its assistant coach set up time, head coach admin bs time)
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