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Post by 19delta on Mar 8, 2018 11:54:50 GMT -6
I would ask about @kurtbryan, but I have to go to clinic. Dammit. You made me spit my coffee out! đ
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Post by 19delta on Mar 8, 2018 11:50:51 GMT -6
We drug test here. If a kid is caught with drugs he out of athletics for 1 year. And yes everyone runs track. Every athlete is required to participate in 2 sports. It's in the Athletic Handbook. If they don't they are removed from athletics. You didn't answer the question. If a kid gets suspended for a game, do you suspend everyone? Of course not. But that is the logical conclusion of you have to run because Johnny forgot his butt pad and if one runs, we all run. Sorry for being a jerk there. If group punishment works, fine. Just not a hill I want to die on. I understand that you are trying to teach real life responsibility, but if one of teachers is late to school, you don't get a reprimand also do you? Public or private school. Just doesn't seem like requiring two sports would fly at a public. If private, I actually like the rule. But everyone of our kids play two or more sports anyways by choice. Jesus Christ...if we would do group punishment for teachers being late at my school, it would be every day. No doubt I would be planning a blanket party, Pvt. Pyle style! đ
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Post by 19delta on Mar 8, 2018 10:26:15 GMT -6
Again...I don't get this. What specific action do you hope the other kids (the kids who are on time) will take to remedy this situation? The team wins and loses games together.  One of the goals of athletics is to prepare your players to become responsible men. Responsibility is one of the most important. You become a team member then you are responsible for your actions and the actions and the actions of the team.  Same as winning or losing a game. Not one person wins or loses. It belongs to a team. You're not going to punish one person for a loss. The team owns it. The same is true for attendance. It's a team issue. Your leaders will make sure that everyone is there and on time.  I use this as example. Track is an extension of offseason. Every football player is required to participate. If someone misses practice without permission, then the whole team, except the one that missed, pushes towels on the gym floor. Funny how it only takes one time and they learn to be at practice on time. Our team leaders make sure that the person that missed is on time each practice. But that isnât the case here. OP said he tried group punishment and it hasnât worked. How are your team leaders making sure the offenders get to practice on time? Looking for specifics, not coachspeak.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 7, 2018 12:26:07 GMT -6
We have done everything from frozen fruit and protein smoothies to PB & J to purchased items (gatorade and muscle milk are only ones to be approved. we have made energy balls- PB, honey, oatmeal, coconut oil, vanilla extract, protein powder and chocolate chips if we are feeling nice. Well now I feel bad about myself.... I have never made energy balls Pete Schweddy can probably make these:
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Post by 19delta on Mar 7, 2018 11:31:23 GMT -6
wow, it just hit me i havent talked to lochness on here in a long time
He became a HC a year or two ago and his posts have dropped dramatically since.
The reason I didnât include lochness on my original list is that he has visited the site recently (you can see when members were last online). But the guys I listed above were a huge part of this site in the early days but havenât logged in in several years.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 6, 2018 22:39:59 GMT -6
In the many years since this forum went online, some great coaches have passed through but have been MIA for several years. Does anyone know what happened to any of these guys? senatorblutarskyknighterlossuperpower@duece timtheenchanterThere are some other guys who have been around for a long time who aren't quite as prolific anymore, but these guys above were great posters in the early days of the site but haven't been here for years. Any word on these guys? Are any of them still coaching (or officiating)?
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Post by 19delta on Mar 6, 2018 21:29:29 GMT -6
Give every person on the team some "physical motivation" (up-downs, bear crawls, log rolls, whatever you want) as soon as the period, practice, whatever it may be has started. And continue the "motivation" until that player has arrived to the role call area. And if it was me, I would be very vocal to all the kids that were on time why we were doing the extra motivation, and point out the tardy student as soon as he gets to practice, and thank him for allowing his teammates to get some rest. Of course, I can be a jerk sometimes, but the times we have had to do something similar, the situation seemed to fix itself pretty quickly. Again...I don't get this. What specific action do you hope the other kids (the kids who are on time) will take to remedy this situation?
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Post by 19delta on Mar 6, 2018 21:27:20 GMT -6
Why is he late? Are his parents around? Does he have trouble getting rides or getting mom or dad out the door on time? Does he have little brothers and sisters he is responsible for? If the kid is just being lazy, then punishment is warranted. It sounds like he is a hard worker who wants to be involved with the team. There might be something else going on. Yeah...I would need to know the context of his chronic tardiness. If he has some legit reasons for being late, that is one thing. But if he is dicking around after school and taking his own sweet time because he thinks he is entitled to it, well...that's not acceptable.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 6, 2018 21:24:11 GMT -6
Make the team accountable. If one is late, everyone receives the punishment. Whether you do log rolls or up-downs everyone does them. Your team leaders should step up and make sure and hold the person accountable. Your team should be like a brotherhood. They need to be accountable in order to establish this. If one person is late for roll call during our period then everyone does 25 up-downs. They have 5 minutes from the bell to get changed and in line for roll call. It stopped kids from being late. So the kids who are on time are going to get punished? The kids who are doing what they are supposed to? How exactly do you expect that punishing the good kids is going to result in the late kid being on time? What actions are you expecting the "team leaders" to take to "hold the person accountable"? Sorry, but I think that is completely wrong. Reminds me of this: If there is a kid who is late, or he is violating some team rule, it's not the responsibility of the other kids, who are following the rules, to correct his behavior. It's the responsibility of the coaches (the adults). If the kid is late, he faces the consequence (whatever that is...up-downs, picking up equipment at the end of practice, reduced playing time, whatever). If those measures don't correct the behavior, then the seriousness of the consequence have to be elevated. For example..."Hey Johnny...you were late every day to practice last week. We have talked about why it is disruptive and disrespectful for you to be late all the time and we have tried to correct your behavior. However, you will late once again today. As a result, you aren't going to get to participate in practice today or dress for the game this week. You will perform the duties of a manager in practice today. And, from this point on, for every day you are late, you will not be allowed to dress for practice that day or participate in the game that week. Do you understand?" The next step would be to not allow him to attend practice for an entire week. After that, I would look at ways to dismiss him from the team. If it was me, I would not make a huge deal out of it. If the kid was chronically late, then I would have him put the equipment away every day after practice that he is late. That would be his punishment.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 5, 2018 19:59:39 GMT -6
Posted something similar in the "admin won't let us max" thread. It applies here. Gasp. My daughter maxes and she played peewee football in 6th grade. LOL at all these adults trying to outlaw it. And anyone who doesn't think there are some using this as a way to get their foot in the door to later outlaw middle school football and then high school football, is naive. Reminds me of a great H.L. Mencken quote: "The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve."
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Post by 19delta on Feb 27, 2018 19:01:20 GMT -6
Depends on whose definition of assault rifle we're using. Unfortunately it is usually people like this:
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Post by 19delta on Feb 27, 2018 5:32:09 GMT -6
Wasn't it the NYPD who was only hitting what they were shooting at like 18% of the time? That's a very misleading statistic, and is irrelevant to the conversation. "In 2005, officers fired 472 times in the same circumstances, hitting their mark 82 times, for a 17.4 percent hit rate. They shot and killed nine people that year" As an Army Vet I am sure you would understand the statistic also includes suppressive fire and that a fire fight is anything but shooting a paper target with ear protection on... With all that being said, God forbid something happens, we will have a fighting chance before the police are able to even enter the building. Sorry...couldn't resist:
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Post by 19delta on Feb 27, 2018 5:14:29 GMT -6
Imma throw this one out there - nobody has a window in their classroom? I have an entire exterior wall made up of windows from waist high to the ceiling.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 26, 2018 21:03:08 GMT -6
who has worked in a school district where "anonymous" staff members were carrying concealed? I know of many in NW Ohio Fortunately we have always had multiple retired NYPD on staff... they don't even go to Shoprite without packing Also the local Archdiocese has put together a fund to hire a private security company to every Catholic school in the city... the same rule applies to them (even though they are paid as "unarmed"). Wasn't it the NYPD who was only hitting what they were shooting at like 18% of the time?
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Post by 19delta on Feb 26, 2018 21:02:00 GMT -6
The last school I coached at had 27 different entrances. The middle school I taught at for 29 years had 15. No matter how well secured, the doors have to open outwards (fire dept. regulations), and all can be opened from the inside by pushing them open. The typical reaction to some one banging on the door is to open it for them, especially in high traffic ares, such as near the gym or cafeteria. But it is not just the schools that provide soft targets. As we have seen, movie theaters, night clubs, concerts, malls, high school sporting events, and any place where the general public may gather is subject to an attack with weapons. Tell me how a good guy with a gun could have done anything in a situation such as Las Vegas? It is not just the schools! If the schools become better protected, the atrocities will just happen someplace else. I admit, as a suburban grown-up, I was not brought up with a gun culture. I do not think that more guns are the answer. I have thoughts on how to deal with this, but this football forum is not the place to discuss it. There are too many folks who all have varying degrees of passion on both sides of the aguement. As a surbunanite who DID grow up in a sporting culture, and who owns guns, I agree. I will say this, as I keep reading comments about arming teachers...especially from my own faculty members on the facebook (some for it, some against) 1) Guns do not protect anything, Shields do that. Ranged weapons may allow you to neutralize a threat, but they don't "protect" against any projectiles a threat has already unleashed. 2) Specifically regarding the arming of school personnel-- There was already an armed, trained law enforcement officer on the campus. Without getting into the politics of the issue, I can say that as a teacher (and thats why I am posting this in the thread) I don't want my co workers armed. US Army vet here (Cavalry Scout). Qualified expert on an M-9 pistol and both an M-16A2 and an M4. I also own a fairly large number of rifles, shotguns, and handguns. I consider myself a good shot and a responsible gun owner. With that being said, I don't want to carry a gun in school. Carrying a firearm is a tremendous responsibility. Anyone who makes that decision has a duty to understand what carrying that firearm means.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 26, 2018 14:14:02 GMT -6
Boyd Epley has said that the 10-yard dash, the VJ, and the 20-yard shuttle are the tests that reveal the best athletes.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 24, 2018 19:49:26 GMT -6
I still haven't read anything about how the Florida killer actually entered the school. Anyone know?
I have thought about what I would do often. My classroom is set up pretty well for shelter-in-place if a shooter is in the building. Interior walls are windowless masonry and my classroom has a fairly heavy wooden door with a small window about head high. I keep the door closed and locked during the day. Certainly, a highly motivated attacker could shoot their way in, given enough time and ammunition, but I would imagine that they would go look for easier targets. And even if an attacker did shoot himself in, I feel pretty confident that I would be able to rush them from a covered and concealed barricaded position next to the door as they came through the chokepoint of the doorway.
On the other hand, my classroom is on the extreme north end of our building and there is a secondary entrance/exit to our cafeteria right outside the west exterior wall. That wall has windows from the waist to the ceiling all the way across the length of my classroom. I do have shades that I keep drawn at all times but if a shooter were to attack the school from that side of my classroom, it would result in a high body count. Would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 24, 2018 19:31:30 GMT -6
We were all issued backpacks with cans of wasp spray. Recently? Or has this been a policy for a while? First issued in 2016-2017 school year.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 24, 2018 14:04:34 GMT -6
Instead of, or in addition to, hammers and bats why not keep a can of pepper spray in your room? Better range than a bat, don't have to be as discriminating as a firearm. We were all issued backpacks with cans of wasp spray.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 17, 2018 11:33:47 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Feb 12, 2018 7:21:36 GMT -6
I can't believe it's already here... My son has already started getting in the weight room, he's on the board for the MS team with his strength numbers. And it is starting to fly by! I'm the head coach and I've always coach QBs. I've had HC tell me step away from his position and let someone else do it. And I've had HC tell me...don't miss out on those special opportunities with your son. I talked with a coach on my staff about taking qb and he is a coaches kids and he asked me why the change and he tells me he wished his dad coached him I've asked my son (in front of my wife) and he said he wants me to but my wife said no way. Or community is tough and she already hears allot of crap in the stands. I'm torn and just seeking advice from coaches who have a great relationship with their son on whether to coach him out not. I have never had such an opportunity, but from an outsider's perspective keep this in mind : Almost every if not every single coach who coached or is coaching his son thinks/thought "I am doing it the right way," but everyone else involved would probably have mixed opinions on the accuracy of that statement. Are you the head coach? If so, then I don't think position coach matters--the claims of favoritism will always be there regardless. It is just a tough situation, I mean would a 1st team All Sec, Offensive player of the year, Manning Award finalist, 25-1 as a starter "Jalen Saban" have been replaced at half time of the College Football Playoff game? Would a Superbowl Hero, 98% of snaps starter Malcom Belichick have been told he was benched right before kick off of the Superbowl? These are all good points. If someone is going to coach their own kid, they had better make sure that their kid is the best player on the team or, short of that, the hardest working kid on the team. There can be no question that the kid has earned whatever he gets. About 15 years ago, I worked for a guy who coached his own kid. It went bad. He wasn't really good and didn't work very hard. Was the only freshman on the team who got to attend the varsity dinner on Thursday. Got to dress for the varsity game and often got in before older guys. During the playoffs, his dad (again, HFC) designed a defense with his kid at MLB. His kid wasn't even a defensive starter on the frosh-soph team. He started at center and really wasn't that good. Not a bad kid, but just never put in any work because he didn't have to. His dad was going to make sure that he would play. It went on like that for three years. After his son's junior year, his dad actually put him up for all-Conference at center. From what I have heard, the other coaches basically laughed at him. His dad resigned after that season (would have been fired if he didn't) and his son didn't even play football his senior year. He knew that he wouldn't get on the field under the new HFC. That is obviously an extreme example. But I do think that if you are going to coach your own kid, you HAVE to hold him more accountable and to a higher standard than everyone else. If you just treat him the way you treat the other kids, you are going to be accused of showing favoritism (even though you aren't).
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Post by 19delta on Feb 1, 2018 23:29:54 GMT -6
What kind of attendance policies are you guys using? A former school of mine had a policy that if you missed 1 Day of practice for any reason you missed a quarter that week, miss 2 practices in a week and you don't play Friday. This also applied to injuries. What kind of procedures do you use to keep track of attendance? This is probably fairly common and pretty much how my high school team operated. Of course, my high school varsity team had 70 juniors and seniors so there was intense competition at most spots. If a guy missed practice and his backup got the reps that day, it could be very difficult for the guy who missed practice to earn his spot back. I now live in a rural area and few varsity programs have more than 25 juniors and seniors. Typically, any attendance policy is going to need a little more wiggle room as a result.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 1, 2018 12:18:36 GMT -6
Itâs been 13 years since Massey-Thaler and itâs just amazing that only a handful of teams seem to have read it. Every time you trade up in the draft what youâre saying is âIâm substantially smarter than my peers, I am so much smarter that I will pay a premium to show off how smart I am.â These are presumably the 32 best candidates in the world, what would make you think that youâve got an edge on them? A few months ago, this topic was being discussed on local sports radio. Basically what it comes down to is that every NFL front office is well aware of Massey-Thaler but, on draft day, it just doesnât matter. Often, front offices get caught up in draft day drama and make bad first-round picks for a litany of reasons. For example, a team may draft a high-profile (but ultimately unproductive) player in the first round because that player will sell jerseys or put butts in seats. Also, there is a sense that it is better to fail by doing the âsafe" thing and follow tradition than it is to do something unconventional like trading away first round picks for 2nd and 3rd round picks.
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PBIS
Feb 1, 2018 11:06:55 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Feb 1, 2018 11:06:55 GMT -6
I don't know what this is but it sounds horrible reminds me of the time they said that we had too many minority kids going to detention and alternative school and it needed to change, so they just told us not to write up minority kids anymore...we had "re-directors" who's job it was to walk around the halls and if they saw a kid who had been thrown out of class they were to redirect their behavior to something positive like making shadow puppets or something I guess. Shadow puppets...that is great!
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Post by 19delta on Feb 1, 2018 6:35:09 GMT -6
I think what a lot of people are missing is that Belichick has the greatest QB and arguably the greatest player in the history of the NFL. In the NFL, having a great QB automatically makes everything else better and makes everything the front office do look really smart.
Lessons from the Patriots for high school coaches? I really don't think there are any. Of all the levels of football, the NFL is the most QB centric. NFL coaches either have a good to great QB or they are looking for a new job in 3 years. It doesn't matter how good of a football coach or personal manager or talent evaluator they are. The best coaches and the smartest guys in the front office can only cover up not having a good to great QB for so long until they get exposed. That is simply not the case in college and high school.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 31, 2018 20:38:15 GMT -6
How many of you guys are involved with PBIS? Iâm part of our schools implementation team and Iâm constantly thinking back to how this also applies to coaching. For those who are new to it or unaware, the basic gist is trying to create a system to positively (and socially) reward students for the kinds of behaviors we want. Itâs the new hotness of culture building but for your school. Itâs really got my wheels turning for how I could approach building a programs culture in positive way, curious if anyone else has gone through this process and made the same connections. We did this at a school I was at several years ago. It was implemented by a Teach for America guy and It ended up getting scrapped because no Teacherâs ever gave âmeritsâ to the good kids. The teachers didnât notice them doing those things because they already did and the goobers were getting all the awards. You could say that is a good thing but it kind of spits in the face of the kids who always do good things when it doesnât get noticed Yep. A school I coached at used PBIS. This was a tough school in a high-crime urban area with a lot of low-income students. Anyway, after a couple months, the district superintendent held a press conference in which she bragged of the success of the new disciplinary process. She kept talking about how suspensions and expulsions were at the lowest rates in years. Well, OF COURSE the rates of suspensions and expulsions went down. That's because the superintendent directed the building principals to not suspend kids anymore or put them up for expulsion! What a $hitshow that place was...talk about the clowns running the circus. We did not call the program PBIS. We called it "Hugs For Thugs".
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PBIS
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Post by 19delta on Jan 31, 2018 20:27:04 GMT -6
The acronyms, abbreviations, and initials just need to stop. The school my wife works at recently had an institute day so the could learn all about using the ACE (Adverse Childhood Experiences) Scale to provide counseling for kids who are having a bad time.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 30, 2018 21:39:45 GMT -6
Fvcking Illinois...the state is $15 billion in the red, has the worst pension crisis in the nation, and is hemorrhaging residents so quickly that we are on pace to lose a Congressional rep for the 3rd census in a row and this is what the General Assembly in Springfield cares about.
Jesus.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 30, 2018 21:14:03 GMT -6
Anybody?
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Post by 19delta on Jan 30, 2018 21:09:33 GMT -6
Yes, the same Trev Alberts, I think he played for Nebraska if I remember right. The funny thing, none of those programs have done well. I heard he declined the Nebraska offer, I'm guessing he knows he will be under greater scrutiny. He is also the guy who got fired from ESPN for not showing up to work.
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