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Post by swcoachperry on Dec 7, 2007 12:00:49 GMT -6
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Post by lsrood on Dec 7, 2007 12:03:16 GMT -6
Great hire for Georgia Tech. It shouldn't take him long to make an impact there.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 7, 2007 12:04:49 GMT -6
Saw it on ESPN. Good hire. Now maybe we can see the flexbone in action with blue chip talent. Not knocking Navy and Air Force personnel at all, just that hey that most of those guys are not Blue Chip recruits.
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 7, 2007 12:06:44 GMT -6
I AM OFFICIALLY A GT FAN
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Post by tripleoption61 on Dec 7, 2007 12:09:20 GMT -6
where di i go to get my GT gear?
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Post by spos21ram on Dec 7, 2007 12:14:10 GMT -6
I hope he stays with his bread and butter and sticks with the flex bone. I'd hate to see him change his offense just because he went to a bigger school
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Post by gmccown on Dec 7, 2007 12:16:12 GMT -6
Oh yea baby! I can't wait to see those guys play.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 7, 2007 12:33:33 GMT -6
OH NO- no navy clinic for me this year...
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Dec 7, 2007 12:41:31 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong here--I love watching a Paul Johnson coached offense. Let's look at this from a recruiting standpoint: how many 18-year old studs with NFL aspirations are going to make the choice to go to GT? I know this is not the reason to choose a school but it would not surprise me to see Johnson change. The flexbone is effective and methodical, but probably not "sexy" to a high schooler with blue-chip talent.
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Post by captain31 on Dec 7, 2007 12:45:27 GMT -6
He'll get more studs at GT than at Navy.
Any word on who the next coach at Navy will be? I'm hoping for an assistant of PJ's so they can continue running the bone.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 7, 2007 13:02:07 GMT -6
The flexbone will do fine. I remember people saying Urban Meyer could not run his gun-spread option in the SEC. One national title later, look who's laughing now.
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Post by information on Dec 7, 2007 13:07:21 GMT -6
Good Hire...but holding my judgement on how the product on the field will look!
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Post by cmow5 on Dec 7, 2007 13:16:57 GMT -6
How big of a problem will he have at first trying to implement this to kids that might have never even seen it before? Does he have the right kids for this there now? I know hardly anything about GT or the Flexbone, so I am just wondering is this a offense that can be effective if you teach the kids or do you have to have the "right" kids for this offense. Lets say a airraider or spread type coach goes to Navy, who would have the harder time?
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 7, 2007 13:17:45 GMT -6
Paul Johnson has already said that you shouldn't necessarily expect him to run the same offense. He has stated he ran flexbone at Navy because of the personnel. I expect him to adapt his system to the better talent he'll have at GT.
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Post by cmow5 on Dec 7, 2007 13:19:52 GMT -6
Paul Johnson has already said that you shouldn't necessarily expect him to run the same offense. He has stated he ran flexbone at Navy because of the personnel. I expect him to adapt his system to the better talent he'll have at GT. Way to crush peoples dreams prez! lol |
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Post by information on Dec 7, 2007 13:23:08 GMT -6
When did johnson last not run the Spread option offense? He had Excellent talent at Georgia Southern and ran the hell out of it. Hawaii not as much Talent, was the OC and ran the spread option. His system is the spread option, I be surprised if that changed.
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Post by tog on Dec 7, 2007 13:24:58 GMT -6
to keep this on the coaching ?
why change the offense?
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Post by mrigg on Dec 7, 2007 13:26:53 GMT -6
Hmm what are the odds GT leads the ACC in rushing next season?
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Post by information on Dec 7, 2007 13:28:01 GMT -6
You go with what you know...and he knows the Spread option and it works with poor talent, good talent and great talent. I doubt he will change.
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 7, 2007 13:30:40 GMT -6
to keep this on the coaching ? why change the offense? It all depends on personnel. I think he'd be silly not to adapt to personnel that GT already has. That doesn't mean he changes everything, but tweaks what he already does to fit the players, until he can recruit the people he wants. |
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Post by tog on Dec 7, 2007 13:31:47 GMT -6
to keep this on the coaching ? why change the offense? It all depends on personnel. I think he'd be silly not to adapt to personnel that GT already has. That doesn't mean he changes everything, but tweaks what he already does to fit the players, until he can recruit the people he wants. i agree with this but philosophy wise does he stay flexbone and why? why not? |
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Post by dragon on Dec 7, 2007 13:32:16 GMT -6
You go with what you know...and he knows the Spread option and it works with poor talent, good talent and great talent. I doubt he will change. Exactly, I'm sorry I'm just kind of floored that many people think he's going to have a whole-out change of his offense. He's run this system with numerous teams, there's a reason he calls the plays, this is his baby. Now he may adapt the system slightly, but at the end of the day it will still be recognizable as the triple option. Now watch, he'll bring in Tony Franklin to run the air raid and then I'll feel like a complete jack.  |
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 7, 2007 13:33:41 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong here--I love watching a Paul Johnson coached offense. Let's look at this from a recruiting standpoint: how many 18-year old studs with NFL aspirations are going to make the choice to go to GT? I know this is not the reason to choose a school but it would not surprise me to see Johnson change. The flexbone is effective and methodical, but probably not "sexy" to a high schooler with blue-chip talent. everyone that plays in an option offense!!! |
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 7, 2007 13:34:49 GMT -6
It all depends on personnel. I think he'd be silly not to adapt to personnel that GT already has. That doesn't mean he changes everything, but tweaks what he already does to fit the players, until he can recruit the people he wants. i agree with this but philosophy wise does he stay flexbone and why? why not? hey stays with the flex because thats what he knows best, its what he DOES. its what he believes in and he wills sell it to the staff, players etc. This is terrific. I think too that coaches need to be honest with themselves...I know that IM not walking around thinking that I can just drop my passion for the double wing and go full out "fun and gun" because thats what my talent might dictate FOR ONE YEAR. With the ability to recruit, he will get himself what he needs and he will do it quickly. I would imagine the BEST option quarterback in the country is a pretty darn good one! We have one in our county that tore up alot of teams and IM pretty sure hes not the best one. what do I know? Can Johnson really run another option as well as he can run the flex? I doubt it, he knows that puppy inside and out because hes run it for a long time. Thats something that goes beyond "talent"- its experience at your own stuff, knowing how to drill and manage time to make it great, knowing what others will do to attack and defend.... He wont change. Not much anyhow. My thoughts on that. |
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Post by dragon on Dec 7, 2007 13:38:06 GMT -6
i agree with this but philosophy wise does he stay flexbone and why? why not? hey stays with the flex because thats what he knows best, its what he DOES. its what he believes in and he wills sell it to the staff, players etc. This is terrific. Agreed, I do think he'll find some more creative ways to get some of his speedier athletes the ball. If you watch Reggie Campbell the past couple years he touches the ball using rocket, option, and the passing game. Johnson will have much more talent to spread around. I wouldn't be surprised if he's able to maintain a powerful ground attack because he should be able to hopefully open up his air attack a little more. |
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 7, 2007 13:38:46 GMT -6
Hmm what are the odds GT leads the ACC in rushing next season? I think they will lead the country. |
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Post by spos21ram on Dec 7, 2007 13:42:26 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong here--I love watching a Paul Johnson coached offense. Let's look at this from a recruiting standpoint: how many 18-year old studs with NFL aspirations are going to make the choice to go to GT? I know this is not the reason to choose a school but it would not surprise me to see Johnson change. The flexbone is effective and methodical, but probably not "sexy" to a high schooler with blue-chip talent. The only players that would have trouble getting into the NFL are the Qb's and WR's. This offense is a RB's dream to rach up yardage. Look at all the Nebraska RB's that went to the pro's in the 90's. |
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Post by tog on Dec 7, 2007 13:47:49 GMT -6
So he gets a shorter mega athlete to play qb, one that knows he isn't going to the nfl as a qb, but maybe as something else
two wr's that can block
two slotbacks that can block, catch, and run?? those two slotbacks would be learning the skills the nfl requires
just doing it in a different way
shouldn't be too hard to transition that stuff
OL?
he could get the shorter dominant linemen with quickness
kinda like the ones at navy now, just bigger
to me, really it would attract better defensive players than anything, hey, i know my offense can do a 13 minute drive and our defensive stats should be unreal
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Post by Boltar on Dec 7, 2007 14:01:50 GMT -6
I think it's all about the QB. In his system, the QB is responsible for getting them into the right play. Also, athleticism is a concern. I'm sure he'll adapt.
As far as what easier to do, I'll go with teaching the 4.4 guy how to cut block as opposed to trying to teach the 5.0 guy how to run a 25 yd dig route.
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 7, 2007 14:09:15 GMT -6
You go with what you know...and he knows the Spread option and it works with poor talent, good talent and great talent. I doubt he will change. Exactly, I'm sorry I'm just kind of floored that many people think he's going to have a whole-out change of his offense. He's run this system with numerous teams, there's a reason he calls the plays, this is his baby. Now he may adapt the system slightly, but at the end of the day it will still be recognizable as the triple option. Now watch, he'll bring in Tony Franklin to run the air raid and then I'll feel like a complete jack. I don't think he'll be doing a wholesale change of offense. I don't even think anyone is really arguing that. But tweaking things to adapt to personnel seems like an obvious change. |
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