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Post by mugwump on Mar 2, 2024 10:38:46 GMT -6
If you haven’t seen Paul Johnson interview on Wreck Talk ( YouTube), you need to check it out; especially all you fellow option diehards. I’ve been waiting for 6 years for Coach Johnson to address all the BS that followed his leaving Georgia Tech . One thing I still get tired of hearing his offense referred to as triple option, as if that was the whole offense.
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Post by irishdog on Mar 2, 2024 11:54:18 GMT -6
At some point when an "old-school" coach retires, and he hears the trashing of what garnered his success, he tires of being "above board", and with nothing to lose he finally speak his mind. Good for him! Sure, many coaches say Coach Johnson was tough to work for, but I would bet numbers of coaches would also say that guys like Saban were also tough. Success for GT football was spotty at best. Prior to Coach Johnson Chan Gailey brought glimpses of it back, but it was Coach Johnson who woke up the echoes of the days of Bobby Dodd. Hopefully Brent Key can restore of some of that Johnson magic.
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Post by fantom on Mar 2, 2024 13:07:26 GMT -6
At some point when an "old-school" coach retires, and he hears the trashing of what garnered his success, he tires of being "above board", and with nothing to lose he finally speak his mind. Good for him! Sure, many coaches say Coach Johnson was tough to work for, but I would bet numbers of coaches would also say that guys like Saban were also tough. Success for GT football was spotty at best. Prior to Coach Johnson Chan Gailey brought glimpses of it back, but it was Coach Johnson who woke up the echoes of the days of Bobby Dodd. Hopefully Brent Key can restore of some of that Johnson magic. The question is how does GT (And a lot of other schools that presently belong to Power 5 conferences) fit into the emerging model of D.1 football? |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 2, 2024 14:05:13 GMT -6
At some point when an "old-school" coach retires, and he hears the trashing of what garnered his success, he tires of being "above board", and with nothing to lose he finally speak his mind. Good for him! Sure, many coaches say Coach Johnson was tough to work for, but I would bet numbers of coaches would also say that guys like Saban were also tough. Success for GT football was spotty at best. Prior to Coach Johnson Chan Gailey brought glimpses of it back, but it was Coach Johnson who woke up the echoes of the days of Bobby Dodd. Hopefully Brent Key can restore of some of that Johnson magic. The question is how does GT (And a lot of other schools that presently belong to Power 5 conferences) fit into the emerging model of D.1 football? Here is my weird take. I think it is now EASIER for any team to fit. If they just decide to spend the money on the players. It was harder in the last 30 years for teams to fit because you couldn't keep up with all the factors. Now, it is just pay the players more. The question is if the school is willing to pay. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 2, 2024 14:11:28 GMT -6
The question is how does GT (And a lot of other schools that presently belong to Power 5 conferences) fit into the emerging model of D.1 football? Here is my weird take. I think it is now EASIER for any team to fit. If they just decide to spend the money on the players. It was harder in the last 30 years for teams to fit because you couldn't keep up with all the factors. Now, it is just pay the players more. The question is if the school is willing to pay. Not quite. The schools can't pay a dime. The schools need to find others to pay. |
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Post by irishdog on Mar 2, 2024 18:50:43 GMT -6
At some point when an "old-school" coach retires, and he hears the trashing of what garnered his success, he tires of being "above board", and with nothing to lose he finally speak his mind. Good for him! Sure, many coaches say Coach Johnson was tough to work for, but I would bet numbers of coaches would also say that guys like Saban were also tough. Success for GT football was spotty at best. Prior to Coach Johnson Chan Gailey brought glimpses of it back, but it was Coach Johnson who woke up the echoes of the days of Bobby Dodd. Hopefully Brent Key can restore of some of that Johnson magic. The question is how does GT (And a lot of other schools that presently belong to Power 5 conferences) fit into the emerging model of D.1 football? They won't, and so will a bunch of others. A reckoning is coming to a large number of collegiate football programs that will affect their entire athletics department, and universities in general. |
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Post by nhsehs on Mar 2, 2024 21:35:11 GMT -6
The question is how does GT (And a lot of other schools that presently belong to Power 5 conferences) fit into the emerging model of D.1 football? They won't, and so will a bunch of others. A reckoning is coming to a large number of collegiate football programs that will affect their entire athletics department, and universities in general. Agree with this. I think 30-40 of the schools with serious money will form their own league, construct rules regarding paying players, etc. Call it Tier 1 for the sake of this. Where does that leave everyone else? The most lucrative TV deals will go to Tier 1, creating a further strain on those below Tier 1 since they can no longer reap the benefits of being in the same conference/TV deal with Bama, Ohio St, Texas, etc. This lack of revenue will lead to slower facility improvement, lower coaching salaries and less money for NIL, all of which will lead to a lesser quality product, which will drive revenue down. This will trickle down to all levels of the NCAA as it could get to a point where universities cannot afford to fund the full allotment of scholarships, which forces them to make tough decisions about the future of their athletics program. Do they go D2 and have a lower scholarship burden? Do they go D3 and do away with athletic scholarships all together? The scary part is what happens to other athletic programs and areas of the school when football (and other revenue producing sports) can't foot the bill? I really do think there will be a Tier 1 league created in the not-so-distant future, and those left out will have to get creative to survive. Following the MLB model of regional sports networks is a viable option, as national interest will wain outside of the Tier 1 league. It will be interesting to see how things play out. I think if you were to fall asleep now and wake up in 20 years, the landscape of college athletics would be unrecognizable. |
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Post by fantom on Mar 2, 2024 22:25:38 GMT -6
They won't, and so will a bunch of others. A reckoning is coming to a large number of collegiate football programs that will affect their entire athletics department, and universities in general. Agree with this. I think 30-40 of the schools with serious money will form their own league, construct rules regarding paying players, etc. Call it Tier 1 for the sake of this. Where does that leave everyone else? The most lucrative TV deals will go to Tier 1, creating a further strain on those below Tier 1 since they can no longer reap the benefits of being in the same conference/TV deal with Bama, Ohio St, Texas, etc. This lack of revenue will lead to slower facility improvement, lower coaching salaries and less money for NIL, all of which will lead to a lesser quality product, which will drive revenue down. This will trickle down to all levels of the NCAA as it could get to a point where universities cannot afford to fund the full allotment of scholarships, which forces them to make tough decisions about the future of their athletics program. Do they go D2 and have a lower scholarship burden? Do they go D3 and do away with athletic scholarships all together? The scary part is what happens to other athletic programs and areas of the school when football (and other revenue producing sports) can't foot the bill? I really do think there will be a Tier 1 league created in the not-so-distant future, and those left out will have to get creative to survive. Following the MLB model of regional sports networks is a viable option, as national interest will wain outside of the Tier 1 league. It will be interesting to see how things play out. I think if you were to fall asleep now and wake up in 20 years, the landscape of college athletics would be unrecognizable. Maybe we older guys will recognize it because, outside of the super league, it'll look like what it mostly looked like until fairly recently. There's nothing wrong with coaches being paid well but not millions. Having facilities that are good and functional instead of extravagant wouldn't end the world. I for one, would love to see games being enjoyed for their own sake instead of as a step toward a playoff berth. |
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Post by CS on Mar 3, 2024 5:40:18 GMT -6
Agree with this. I think 30-40 of the schools with serious money will form their own league, construct rules regarding paying players, etc. Call it Tier 1 for the sake of this. Where does that leave everyone else? The most lucrative TV deals will go to Tier 1, creating a further strain on those below Tier 1 since they can no longer reap the benefits of being in the same conference/TV deal with Bama, Ohio St, Texas, etc. This lack of revenue will lead to slower facility improvement, lower coaching salaries and less money for NIL, all of which will lead to a lesser quality product, which will drive revenue down. This will trickle down to all levels of the NCAA as it could get to a point where universities cannot afford to fund the full allotment of scholarships, which forces them to make tough decisions about the future of their athletics program. Do they go D2 and have a lower scholarship burden? Do they go D3 and do away with athletic scholarships all together? The scary part is what happens to other athletic programs and areas of the school when football (and other revenue producing sports) can't foot the bill? I really do think there will be a Tier 1 league created in the not-so-distant future, and those left out will have to get creative to survive. Following the MLB model of regional sports networks is a viable option, as national interest will wain outside of the Tier 1 league. It will be interesting to see how things play out. I think if you were to fall asleep now and wake up in 20 years, the landscape of college athletics would be unrecognizable. Maybe we older guys will recognize it because, outside of the super league, it'll look like what it mostly looked like until fairly recently. There's nothing wrong with coaches being paid well but not millions. Having facilities that are good and functional instead of extravagant wouldn't end the world. I for one, would love to see games being enjoyed for their own sake instead of as a step toward a playoff berth. I might actually enjoy watching it more. Smaller schools tend to be more creative with scheme because they have to be |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 3, 2024 7:36:11 GMT -6
Here is my weird take. I think it is now EASIER for any team to fit. If they just decide to spend the money on the players. It was harder in the last 30 years for teams to fit because you couldn't keep up with all the factors. Now, it is just pay the players more. The question is if the school is willing to pay. Not quite. The schools can't pay a dime. The schools need to find others to pay. Correct. By school, I meant school, fan base, donors, etc. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 3, 2024 10:27:09 GMT -6
Not quite. The schools can't pay a dime. The schools need to find others to pay. Correct. By school, I meant school, fan base, donors, etc. I still don’t think it’s the case that it’s necessarily any easier for other programs as “the big boys“ have had a 40 year head-start since the NCAA versus board of regents of Oklahoma University to build a foundation and cultivate a culture where groups of people are willing and excited to bankroll a sport that is associated with a university Also, the current landscape is very much like an industry, with weak antitrust laws in which the largest competitors will simply take the assets of smaller upstarts |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 3, 2024 11:35:47 GMT -6
Correct. By school, I meant school, fan base, donors, etc. I still don’t think it’s the case that it’s necessarily any easier for other programs as “the big boys“ have had a 40 year head-start since the NCAA versus board of regents of Oklahoma University to build a foundation and cultivate a culture where groups of people are willing and excited to bankroll a sport that is associated with a university Also, the current landscape is very much like an industry, with weak antitrust laws in which the largest competitors will simply take the assets of smaller upstarts The 40 year head start is EXACTLY why it is easier now more than ever. I am not saying easy or doable. Easier. Just saying there is one factor that now outweighs all other factors by a mile. Factors like coaching, facilities, tradition, conference, being on tv, ability to compete for championships, etc. all still matter. But pale in comparison to just paying a kid more than another school will. If for some reason Elon Musk decides to be a Georgia Tech mega fam and spend 1 billion on the best players for them, they will be the greatest team of ALL TIME next year. |
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Post by fantom on Mar 3, 2024 13:19:41 GMT -6
I still don’t think it’s the case that it’s necessarily any easier for other programs as “the big boys“ have had a 40 year head-start since the NCAA versus board of regents of Oklahoma University to build a foundation and cultivate a culture where groups of people are willing and excited to bankroll a sport that is associated with a university Also, the current landscape is very much like an industry, with weak antitrust laws in which the largest competitors will simply take the assets of smaller upstarts The 40 year head start is EXACTLY why it is easier now more than ever. I am not saying easy or doable. Easier. Just saying there is one factor that now outweighs all other factors by a mile. Factors like coaching, facilities, tradition, conference, being on tv, ability to compete for championships, etc. all still matter. But pale in comparison to just paying a kid more than another school will. If for some reason Elon Musk decides to be a Georgia Tech mega fam and spend 1 billion on the best players for them, they will be the greatest team of ALL TIME next year. If it was only about money a lot of schools could be football powers. Harvard has more money that anybody. |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 3, 2024 13:25:19 GMT -6
The 40 year head start is EXACTLY why it is easier now more than ever. I am not saying easy or doable. Easier. Just saying there is one factor that now outweighs all other factors by a mile. Factors like coaching, facilities, tradition, conference, being on tv, ability to compete for championships, etc. all still matter. But pale in comparison to just paying a kid more than another school will. If for some reason Elon Musk decides to be a Georgia Tech mega fam and spend 1 billion on the best players for them, they will be the greatest team of ALL TIME next year. If it was only about money a lot of schools could be football powers. Harvard has more money that anybody. Ha. I actually made a whole thread about that. Of course it isn't only about money. Well, it is. But it is about how much you have and your willingness to spend the money on football. |
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Post by irishdog on Mar 3, 2024 13:35:40 GMT -6
If the NFL truly cares about the game as they SAY they do, they will find a way to utilize their influence in creating big-time college football into a developmental entity within their own structure. After all, isn't THAT what big-time college football has become anyway? Create and manage a way to underwrite the "league" of schools (the National Collegiate Football League?) and structure it in a manner beneficial to the schools and athletes choosing to be part of it, and for the "league" itself. Schools that cannot financially or philosophically choose to become a member of the NCFL remain as members of the NCAA with agreements to structure NIL to benefit the athletes and the schools for their futures, or restructure the NCAA period.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 3, 2024 15:49:05 GMT -6
If the NFL truly cares about the game as they SAY they do, they will find a way to utilize their influence in creating big-time college football into a developmental entity within their own structure. After all, isn't THAT what big-time college football has become anyway? Create and manage a way to underwrite the "league" of schools (the National Collegiate Football League?) and structure it in a manner beneficial to the schools and athletes choosing to be part of it, and for the "league" itself. Schools that cannot financially or philosophically choose to become a member of the NCFL remain as members of the NCAA with agreements to structure NIL to benefit the athletes and the schools for their futures, or restructure the NCAA period. I think this could be very detrimental. A "G" League is not the way to go. In my opinion, that could be catastrophic to college football which will also affect NFL down the road. Now, that being said, if they do everything "just right", maybe it could work. But I see way more harm potential. |
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Post by irishdog on Mar 3, 2024 16:26:51 GMT -6
If the NFL truly cares about the game as they SAY they do, they will find a way to utilize their influence in creating big-time college football into a developmental entity within their own structure. After all, isn't THAT what big-time college football has become anyway? Create and manage a way to underwrite the "league" of schools (the National Collegiate Football League?) and structure it in a manner beneficial to the schools and athletes choosing to be part of it, and for the "league" itself. Schools that cannot financially or philosophically choose to become a member of the NCFL remain as members of the NCAA with agreements to structure NIL to benefit the athletes and the schools for their futures, or restructure the NCAA period. I think this could be very detrimental. A "G" League is not the way to go. In my opinion, that could be catastrophic to college football which will also affect NFL down the road. Now, that being said, if they do everything "just right", maybe it could work. But I see way more harm potential. Yes, IF they do everything "just right". Otherwise big-time college football would have to look elsewhere for the institutional support, and that "elsewhere" does not exist. Which leads me to believe the only way big-time college football can survive is to completely restructure the NCAA, the NIL, the transfer rules, and media support. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 3, 2024 17:26:21 GMT -6
I still don’t think it’s the case that it’s necessarily any easier for other programs as “the big boys“ have had a 40 year head-start since the NCAA versus board of regents of Oklahoma University to build a foundation and cultivate a culture where groups of people are willing and excited to bankroll a sport that is associated with a university Also, the current landscape is very much like an industry, with weak antitrust laws in which the largest competitors will simply take the assets of smaller upstarts The 40 year head start is EXACTLY why it is easier now more than ever. I am not saying easy or doable. Easier. Just saying there is one factor that now outweighs all other factors by a mile. Factors like coaching, facilities, tradition, conference, being on tv, ability to compete for championships, etc. all still matter. But pale in comparison to just paying a kid more than another school will. If for some reason Elon Musk decides to be a Georgia Tech mega fam and spend 1 billion on the best players for them, they will be the greatest team of ALL TIME next year. I understand what you are saying, but I disagree, because that 40 year Headstart was to specifically develop the institutions and culture that exist right now that have them in the position that they are in. It ISN’T about the money. It is about having created a culture where those others are willing to bankroll a professional sports team that is loosely affiliated with a University. Saying that “Elon Musk could go bankroll GA Tech and they would be the greatest team ever” isn’t really a thing anymore than saying “if an alien with superhuman powers was secretly living among us and enrolled at GA tech they could have the best season in history”. Also, not really sure what this conversation/thread has to do with General Offensive football. |
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Post by fantom on Mar 3, 2024 20:47:09 GMT -6
The 40 year head start is EXACTLY why it is easier now more than ever. I am not saying easy or doable. Easier. Just saying there is one factor that now outweighs all other factors by a mile. Factors like coaching, facilities, tradition, conference, being on tv, ability to compete for championships, etc. all still matter. But pale in comparison to just paying a kid more than another school will. If for some reason Elon Musk decides to be a Georgia Tech mega fam and spend 1 billion on the best players for them, they will be the greatest team of ALL TIME next year. I understand what you are saying, but I disagree, because that 40 year Headstart was to specifically develop the institutions and culture that exist right now that have them in the position that they are in. It ISN’T about the money. It is about having created a culture where those others are willing to bankroll a professional sports team that is loosely affiliated with a University. Saying that “Elon Musk could go bankroll GA Tech and they would be the greatest team ever” isn’t really a thing anymore than saying “if an alien with superhuman powers was secretly living among us and enrolled at GA tech they could have the best season in history”. Also, not really sure what this conversation/thread has to do with General Offensive football. It has nothing to do with it and never did so I moved it. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 4, 2024 17:18:53 GMT -6
I think one of the biggest issues that no one really is discussing is “what is college football” going forward. If the employee model takes hold, is that “college football” anymore. Will college football lose its allure when it is officially not played by students who are “in class” like I am/was. If it’simply becomes a professional sports organization loosely affiliated to a university because the players are licensed to wear the school colors and apparel, does it keep its place?
Look at the once majestic bowl system. They’ve always been exhibition games, just like many major college football players have always been “wink wink nudge nudge” students. But once they were officially declared exhibitions compared to the playoff games- the majesty is gone.
What happens to college football when the “ Wink, wink nudge nudge” is gone?
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Post by tog on Mar 4, 2024 18:12:29 GMT -6
can we get a link please?
great topic for general offense
if whatever tier school wants to win, then option is the way if they really care about winning
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 4, 2024 19:27:08 GMT -6
can we get a link please? great topic for general offense if whatever tier school wants to win, then option is the way if they really care about winning That is a link to the original interview that is referenced on the youtube channel that mugwump mentions. It has no place in the general offensive section, as it does not really talk about his offense other than a few minutes at the end. A brief synopsis : 1) a little talk about how he got out at the right time 2) talk about how his successor told lies about the program under PJ 3) a little bit about his start at Georgia State. 4) a little bit about misconceptions of his offense. (maybe 3 minutes) |
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Post by tog on Mar 4, 2024 21:00:34 GMT -6
thesuperstations.podbean.com/e/the-bill-shanks-show-paul-johnson-interview-22324/a great talk with a good dude and great coach talks about how stupid coach that came after talked {censored} like an assholle gives props to the new coach 27.00 talked about erk russell and him moving up, great stuff 29 talks aboutmoving up to college ol coach and then secondary coach in college, great stuff, takes a gig for 12k great stuff coached dl, going fishin with erk, great stuff,, stay and be my oc, in the i, general offense greatness here in the story coach we want to run some double slot with tracy ham, and option stuff,, then wow, beat folks to win the nc in 85 hambone, great stuff paul went on to hawaii,then came back, great shittt, then back to erk great stuff, erk told him to coach qb's and coach the team, then he went on to success, great stuff, then 38 in. talking about scoops, and the offense, also had lots of players that wanted to play in it, and great wrs that could block, omg , 1985 national champ game 485 yards hawaii, shitload of passing yards, hmm, goood at 3rd and long offense, hmm, what offense is good with that? hmm practicing against option,,,,hmmmm we neve had problems when at gasouthern, we had dudes,,, and it isn't like we practiced much against themin the option stuff, duhhhh wecouldn't get those dl and if you were going to play against teams, with that, let's cut that down by the offense we ran hmmmm this is a great discussion about general offense
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Post by silkyice on Mar 5, 2024 9:49:28 GMT -6
I think one of the biggest issues that no one really is discussing is “what is college football” going forward. If the employee model takes hold, is that “college football” anymore. Will college football lose its allure when it is officially not played by students who are “in class” like I am/was. If it’simply becomes a professional sports organization loosely affiliated to a university because the players are licensed to wear the school colors and apparel, does it keep its place? Look at the once majestic bowl system. They’ve always been exhibition games, just like many major college football players have always been “wink wink nudge nudge” students. But once they were officially declared exhibitions compared to the playoff games- the majesty is gone. What happens to college football when the “ Wink, wink nudge nudge” is gone? I am just being an old guy, but I really worry that college football could drop off big time because of this. The 12 team playoff is coming at just the right time to maybe generate some more excitement to "gloss" over what is happening. The moment college football becomes more like basketball's "G" league or baseball's minor leagues, it will never be the same. AND the MONEY will evaporate. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 5, 2024 9:58:32 GMT -6
I think one of the biggest issues that no one really is discussing is “what is college football” going forward. If the employee model takes hold, is that “college football” anymore. Will college football lose its allure when it is officially not played by students who are “in class” like I am/was. If it’simply becomes a professional sports organization loosely affiliated to a university because the players are licensed to wear the school colors and apparel, does it keep its place? Look at the once majestic bowl system. They’ve always been exhibition games, just like many major college football players have always been “wink wink nudge nudge” students. But once they were officially declared exhibitions compared to the playoff games- the majesty is gone. What happens to college football when the “ Wink, wink nudge nudge” is gone? I am just being an old guy, but I really worry that college football could drop off big time because of this. The 12 team playoff is coming at just the right time to maybe generate some more excitement to "gloss" over what is happening. The moment college football becomes more like basketball's "G" league or baseball's minor leagues, it will never be the same. AND the MONEY will evaporate. I don’t know if you were being “the old guy” at all. I think it is absolutely a very pragmatic way to look at it. It really is heading towards an NFL structure but anyone who thinks the quality of play matches NFL games is kidding themselves. |
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Post by veerwego on Mar 5, 2024 10:42:06 GMT -6
I have said this before, but when it becomes the NFL lite, how is it different from the USFL or XFL? That nobody watches.
As less and less, especially men are going to college and the big money donors are dying off, I believe interest will wane. I watched the least NFL football ever this year. Super Bowl was only game I watched all of. Watched a little of the AFC champ game, maybe a quarter. Honestly, kind of regretted the Super Bowl. Commercials stunk but at least it was a good game, down to the last play in OT.
If you take away the rivalries, traditions, and the fact that the regular season matters and it becomes like other pro sports, I think they will surge with interest like silkyice said with the new playoff and eventually the new "league" but it will drop off after that. I love college football. My #1 hobby. I love it. Watched less this year and will continue to, because it is not college football anymore, and apparently will continue to decrease to be like it each year. I think they are mining for gold and digging their own grave at the same time.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 5, 2024 10:58:56 GMT -6
I have said this before, but when it becomes the NFL lite, how is it different from the USFL or XFL? That nobody watches. As less and less, especially men are going to college and the big money donors are dying off, I believe interest will wane. I watched the least NFL football ever this year. Super Bowl was only game I watched all of. Watched a little of the AFC champ game, maybe a quarter. Honestly, kind of regretted the Super Bowl. Commercials stunk but at least it was a good game, down to the last play in OT. If you take away the rivalries, traditions, and the fact that the regular season matters and it becomes like other pro sports, I think they will surge with interest like silkyice said with the new playoff and eventually the new "league" but it will drop off after that. I love college football. My #1 hobby. I love it. Watched less this year and will continue to, because it is not college football anymore, and apparently will continue to decrease to be like it each year. I think they are mining for gold and digging their own grave at the same time. I agree. They are the business world equivalent of a company potentially sacrificing its long-term future for short term profits There is another side to this, that doesn’t get nearly the attention as the NIL or pay the players narrative: That if Joe Burrow, J’marr chase, Justin Jefferson etc all played for the Baton Rouge Rough Riders semi pro team on Saturday nights at a public park, and a bunch of other guys were wearing white and gold in Tiger stadium, the people would go watch the other guys. |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 5, 2024 12:57:07 GMT -6
There is another side to this, that doesn’t get nearly the attention as the NIL or pay the players narrative: That if Joe Burrow, J’marr chase, Justin Jefferson etc all played for the Baton Rouge Rough Riders semi pro team on Saturday nights at a public park, and a bunch of other guys were wearing white and gold in Tiger stadium, the people would go watch the other guys. THIS Weird tangent I have said this for years. The players are only important because the game and teams are important - especially in college. I don't meant that the players shouldn't get what they are worth. But when it becomes just about the players, it will dramatically hurt college football. In the NFL it is about the players but it is also about the teams and most importantly, about the game itself. The tradition, betting, America, etc. Here is what is wild in my mind, if the top 1000 football players in the world never existed, the game would still be just as popular. There would just be another Tom Brady that can now be Tom Brady because Tom Brady didn't exist. Maybe not that exactly, but you get the point. There will still be DE's that are huge and can fly and can do amazing things even if the 1000 best ever never played. RB's, WR's that are amazing, etc. Entertainment is weird business. You don't have to be good, you just have to one of the best. Now, by default, you will be good if you are on of the best, but if the top 100 bands of all-time never existed, there would just be 100 other bands to take their place, and we would never or just barely notice a difference. |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 5, 2024 13:01:36 GMT -6
I think they are mining for gold and digging their own grave at the same time. Great way to put this. I think this is very similar to EA Sports college football. Players wanting to get paid for this just ended the game. So every kid that I coached for the last 10 years that played college football never got to be IN THE GAME. And for what, maybe a $500 check or something? Let's say it was $10,000. Most of the players would rather have traded being in a video game over that long term. Not saying that the players shouldn't have gotten paid for this either. I think this is what actually led to the Supreme Court NIL decision. But what could also end up destroying college athletics and the players. |
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Post by blb on Mar 5, 2024 13:28:22 GMT -6
A few years ago Saban was quoted as saying "The more our game is like the NFL, the better."
Wonder if he still feels that way.
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