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Post by blb on Jan 26, 2023 11:13:43 GMT -6
All and all, the proof will be in the pudding. And we have a pretty simple metric; winning. Maybe Jeff Saturday goes on to produce fantastic results with the Colts... Maybe he crashes and burns. We'll see. A lot of people think Saturday crashed and burned vs. the Vikings. He wouldn't be a NFL HC candidate anywhere except for Irsay. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 26, 2023 11:33:03 GMT -6
As far as Sanders goes, I believe the guy has proven to be a quality HC. He did some great things at Jackson State and I wish him the best at Colorado. I doubt he'll be a flash in the pan. We'll see. It will be interesting to see what he can do when there's 4 and 5 star talent across the field from them. At Jackson State they were the UFC fighter in a room of 8th graders a lot of the time talent wise. And they still got beat and looked shaky at times. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 26, 2023 11:33:30 GMT -6
All and all, the proof will be in the pudding. And we have a pretty simple metric; winning. Maybe Jeff Saturday goes on to produce fantastic results with the Colts... Maybe he crashes and burns. We'll see. A lot of people think Saturday crashed and burned vs. the Vikings. He wouldn't be a NFL HC candidate anywhere except for Irsay. He wouldn't be a coordinator candidate. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 26, 2023 18:54:35 GMT -6
A lot of people think Saturday crashed and burned vs. the Vikings. He wouldn't be a NFL HC candidate anywhere except for Irsay. He wouldn't be a coordinator candidate. Actually, I think someone non traditional (like Saturday) could be a viable NFL Head Coach and not be a great candidate to be a coordinator. |
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Post by jg78 on Jan 28, 2023 8:05:19 GMT -6
Agreed. Different skill sets.
Deion might might turn out to be a great college head coach, and if he is it will be because of his charisma, name recognition, and ability to keep the program on the road. I think he would be a terrible DC. He played in a different era (hasn’t coached much in this one) and even then his role was to shutdown one guy and let the other ten defenders do whatever. He wasn’t involved in complex schemes.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 2, 2023 8:47:36 GMT -6
Since the other thread was closed, thought I'd put this here- Coach "Prime" showed up to their first game with a shirt on that said "Prime" with the Buffalo logo under it.
(Insert mega eye roll)
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Post by blb on Sept 2, 2023 9:40:39 GMT -6
Since the other thread was closed, thought I'd put this here- Coach "Prime" showed up to their first game with a shirt on that said "Prime" with the Buffalo logo under it. (Insert mega eye roll) I would've expected nothing else. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on Sept 2, 2023 13:42:30 GMT -6
Mega or MAGA eye roll?
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 2, 2023 13:43:31 GMT -6
Hmmm... I am guessing that several coaches here might have to give up their backseat college athletic director cards after today...
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 2, 2023 13:46:07 GMT -6
Good win, but it's one. Appalachian state beat Michigan in the big house once too.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 2, 2023 13:46:16 GMT -6
Congrats to Deion!!!
Wow!!!
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 2, 2023 13:47:38 GMT -6
What? Oh, I forgot. Because I think "Prime" is a self serving, egotistical {censored}, it's obviously because I'm a Trump loving racist. My bad. Completely forgot. |
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Post by tripsclosed on Sept 2, 2023 13:48:31 GMT -6
Congrats to Deion!!! Wow!!! Heck yeah man! And congrats to that whole team and coaching staff, too!! Travis Hunter is an effing man. Talk about Ironman Football! And Shadeur Sanders was absolutely impressive, too! No matter what the final record is, this is gonna be a fun season for Prime Nation! |
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 2, 2023 14:02:12 GMT -6
Good win, but it's one. Appalachian state beat Michigan in the big house once too. Yes, and they went on to a 13-2 record and win the Div 1AA National Championship that year....This seems to be a fairly terrible example for whatever point you were trying to make. (Insert mega eyeroll) |
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 2, 2023 14:07:19 GMT -6
Good win, but it's one. Appalachian state beat Michigan in the big house once too. Yes, and they went on to a 13-2 record and win the Div 1AA National Championship that year....This seems to be a fairly terrible example for whatever point you were trying to make. (Insert mega eyeroll) Well, maybe Colorado can win the 1AA championship this year. |
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Post by jg78 on Sept 2, 2023 14:16:46 GMT -6
Impressive win for Deion. They looked good.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 2, 2023 14:19:52 GMT -6
Yes, and they went on to a 13-2 record and win the Div 1AA National Championship that year....This seems to be a fairly terrible example for whatever point you were trying to make. (Insert mega eyeroll) Well, maybe Colorado can win the 1AA championship this year. Coming off a historically bad 2022 campaign that hypothetical result would be a resounding success for Coach Sanders and CU. The NCAA FCS champ is by no means the "134th" best team. Still trying to figure out your point--and how your example of a week 1 major upset by a team that went on to an extremely successful (championship caliber) season is somehow a negative? |
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 2, 2023 14:25:09 GMT -6
Perhaps, just perhaps, given time, we'll learn that TCU is actually not good this year.
Maybe, just maybe, we could try not to be a prisoner of the right now for once.
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Post by fantom on Sept 2, 2023 14:28:19 GMT -6
It is just one game but it was pretty impressive. The most I was looking for is "Don't suck".
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 2, 2023 14:42:17 GMT -6
Perhaps, just perhaps, given time, we'll learn that TCU is actually not good this year. Maybe, just maybe, we could try not to be a prisoner of the right now for once. Very Possible. That doesn't matter though, as the narrative going in was that CU (particularly from members of this board) was would be terrible, Sanders was morally wrong for facilitating such a large roster turnover, if CU won 2-3 games it would be a success. 2022 CU was HISTORICALLY BAD. Their average point differential was 29 per game. They gave up 50 more touchdowns than they scored. Their offense averaged 228 yards a game LESS than their opponents. Their 3rd down conversion percentage was 22% less than their opponents. And lest you think these stats were skewed by a few outlier games, after their closest loss by 8 points, their next two closest losses were by 23 and 25 points. Nobody is suggesting that the team that just played has UGA or OSU or LSU or Bama, or USC quaking in their cleats. What is being suggested is that Deion Sanders has managed to come in following that historically bad season, and seems to have fielded a football team that can/will compete. I would suggest the only ones prisoner to anything here are the ones put out by apparel choices, or brash personalities. |
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Post by jg78 on Sept 2, 2023 17:17:42 GMT -6
I don't think they're what they were last year. I agree with that.
I don't think anyone's predicting a national title, but winning this game is huge for Deion and Colorado.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 2, 2023 17:53:31 GMT -6
I don't think they're what they were last year. I agree with that. Actually, even last year, TCU wasn’t what they were last year. 😜 |
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Post by tog on Sept 3, 2023 17:11:35 GMT -6
a horrible day for our game
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Post by CoachK on Sept 4, 2023 9:41:28 GMT -6
You mean you're not fired up for the annual Stanford vs. Rutgers game where 80% of the roster wasn't there the year before?
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Post by 19delta on Sept 4, 2023 9:48:25 GMT -6
I heard something on the radio the other day. Apparently, when Colorado hired Deion, they didn’t have the money for his contract. They just planned on the money coming from somewhere, which it obviously did. They sold out season tickets for the first time in 20 years.
I don’t know how success will be defined at Colorado under Sanders. But, there is money pouring into the program now. Boosters and sponsors are lining up to be a part of it. The program has national recognition. Given that, I can’t see Sanders crashing and burning. I don’t think his record matters this year but next year, If he can turn in a modestly successful season, like 6-6, and go to a bowl game, Colorado is going to be on the way. They already have terrific facilities. Now, they have a charismatic head coach who will bring in great players. I think he is going to do well.
Again…the question is how will success be defined? What’s the standard for Sanders to meet? Kirk Ferentz has been at Iowa since Christ was a corporal and he has a handful of conference championship and only reached double-digit wins in 7 seasons and has never really been a contender for a national championship. If Sanders has a career like Ferentz, will that be good enough to appease his detractors?
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Post by blb on Sept 4, 2023 9:50:25 GMT -6
You mean you're not fired up for the annual Stanford vs. Rutgers game where 80% of the roster wasn't there the year before? Stanford is going to the ACC, not the B1G (like Rutgers). |
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Post by blb on Sept 4, 2023 9:54:08 GMT -6
I suspect that within a few years Colorado boosters will be expecting Sanders to win Big XII championship(s) and compete for NC.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 4, 2023 10:01:38 GMT -6
If Sanders has a career like Ferentz, will that be good enough to appease his detractors? It hasn't appeased Iowa fans, I doubt it will appease Colorado fans. |
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Post by 19delta on Sept 4, 2023 10:30:52 GMT -6
If Sanders has a career like Ferentz, will that be good enough to appease his detractors? It hasn't appeased Iowa fans, I doubt it will appease Colorado fans. But Ferentz has been there for what, almost 25 years? Clearly, his supporters far outnumber his detractors. Heck…that campus is his personal fiefdom. And Ferentz is certainly viewed as a “successful” head coach who has a great deal of respect. |
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 4, 2023 10:50:56 GMT -6
It hasn't appeased Iowa fans, I doubt it will appease Colorado fans. But Ferentz has been there for what, almost 25 years? Clearly, his supporters far outnumber his detractors. Heck…that campus is his personal fiefdom. And Ferentz is certainly viewed as a “successful” head coach who has a great deal of respect. I would argue that brown nosing your bosses doesn't mean you have a lot of support. We all know guys who keep their job despite no apparent reason while wildly successful people get pushed out for no reason. |
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