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Post by coachscdub on Apr 3, 2021 11:05:08 GMT -6
Was having a conversation about high school football with a buddy and he eventually asked me what would be something i would want to see changed at the high school level and i was torn between two things but one eventually won out, that being i would like it if we moved the Hashes inward to the college Hashes because i dont love the limited space into the boundary currently.
Just wondering what other things people would pick if they could change just one aspect.
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Post by bobgoodman on Apr 3, 2021 11:27:59 GMT -6
One that just occurred to me and would be very selfish: switch seasons with baseball. The players would be that much more mature, the end of the season could fall after exams, and in many places you'd have the only football in town at that time. You could play day games, wouldn't have to compete for officials, and wouldn't have to share a field with soccer (though you might with lacrosse).
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Post by CS on Apr 3, 2021 11:45:13 GMT -6
Cutting down field would be super
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Post by bignose on Apr 3, 2021 12:53:13 GMT -6
Offensive holding: 5 yard penalty
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2021 13:28:49 GMT -6
1 yard downfield instead of 3 for pass plays for OL.
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Post by fantom on Apr 3, 2021 14:02:52 GMT -6
Offensive holding: 5 yard penalty How did I know that most of the ideas would be ways to make it easier on the offense? |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 3, 2021 14:54:49 GMT -6
Offensive holding: 5 yard penalty How did I know that most of the ideas would be ways to make it easier on the offense? You can make it easier than it already is for the offense? |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 3, 2021 14:56:36 GMT -6
I would make off-season programs illegal.
Judging by the quality of play I've seen the past couple years, and the physique of the players, they're not accomplishing anything anyway.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2021 15:27:28 GMT -6
I would make off-season programs illegal. Judging by the quality of play I've seen the past couple years, and the physique of the players, they're not accomplishing anything anyway. I will be honest here- I think that may be just your experience. I think off-season work is creating a gap. The "have" teams look like studs and are playing at a higher level than years ago. The have nots are ...worse. |
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Post by fantom on Apr 3, 2021 15:35:19 GMT -6
I would make off-season programs illegal. Judging by the quality of play I've seen the past couple years, and the physique of the players, they're not accomplishing anything anyway. I wouldn't want to do away with S&C but it wouldn't have bothered me a bit if they did away with off-season practice. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 3, 2021 15:43:28 GMT -6
I would make off-season programs illegal. Judging by the quality of play I've seen the past couple years, and the physique of the players, they're not accomplishing anything anyway. I will be honest here- I think that may be just your experience. I think off-season work is creating a gap. The "have" teams look like studs and are playing at a higher level than years ago. The have nots are ...worse. I'm not associated with a program now, so I get to see a lot of different teams around the area. As a whole, they're smaller and sloppier than they were 5-10 years ago. My 15 year old daughter currently squats more than about half the starters on her HS' football team. And they're 2-1 right now and will probably go 4-2. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2021 15:54:16 GMT -6
I will be honest here- I think that may be just your experience. I think off-season work is creating a gap. The "have" teams look like studs and are playing at a higher level than years ago. The have nots are ...worse. I'm not associated with a program now, so I get to see a lot of different teams around the area. As a whole, they're smaller and sloppier than they were 5-10 years ago. My 15 year old daughter currently squats more than about half the starters on her HS' football team. And they're 2-1 right now and will probably go 4-2. I wouldn't necessarily call that a "have" team. As was discovered in the compensation thread, things vary widely. |
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Post by chi5hi on Apr 3, 2021 18:11:59 GMT -6
1. 15 minute quarters.
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Post by CS on Apr 3, 2021 18:15:41 GMT -6
Offensive holding: 5 yard penalty How did I know that most of the ideas would be ways to make it easier on the offense? Ok. Loss of down if you have an ineligible down field. Grounding is an automatic turnover on downs from the spot of the foul |
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Post by chi5hi on Apr 3, 2021 18:38:01 GMT -6
Just wondering what other things people would pick if they could change just one aspect. Field Goal...if you hit the upright or crossbar...it's 5 points! If it hits and goes through...it's 8! Those thing are actually pretty hard to do!! The straight Field Goal is much easier! |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2021 18:42:21 GMT -6
You must not have to travel far to away games LOL. Ugh.. 15 minute quarters on the road in the chuck and duck/spread and shread age.... |
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Post by fantom on Apr 3, 2021 18:58:30 GMT -6
You must not have to travel far to away games LOL. Ugh.. 15 minute quarters on the road in the chuck and duck/spread and shread age.... I'm not sure that teams with two-way players would like that. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 4, 2021 7:12:17 GMT -6
Just wondering what other things people would pick if they could change just one aspect. Field Goal...if you hit the upright or crossbar...it's 5 points! If it hits and goes through...it's 8! Those thing are actually pretty hard to do!! The straight Field Goal is much easier! The Chicago Bears are now retroactively the 2018 Super Bowl champions with this rule change.  |
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Post by fantom on Apr 4, 2021 7:19:41 GMT -6
Field Goal...if you hit the upright or crossbar...it's 5 points! If it hits and goes through...it's 8! Those thing are actually pretty hard to do!! The straight Field Goal is much easier! The Chicago Bears are now retroactively the 2018 Super Bowl champions with this rule change. Well, Illinois state champions anyway. |
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Post by wingtol on Apr 4, 2021 9:20:02 GMT -6
One that just occurred to me and would be very selfish: switch seasons with baseball. The players would be that much more mature, the end of the season could fall after exams, and in many places you'd have the only football in town at that time. You could play day games, wouldn't have to compete for officials, and wouldn't have to share a field with soccer (though you might with lacrosse). Not real fun up North. I'd rather start in the summer and finish when it was getting cold than start in snow and get nothing done for a couple weeks. For our situation I would say move soccer to spring and leave football as the only thing to do in fall. |
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 4, 2021 9:38:25 GMT -6
We seem to be in the minority, but soccer is a spring sport in Iowa. I love it because we get a few skill kids and normally a kicker that we wouldn't otherwise have.
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 4, 2021 9:40:13 GMT -6
To answer the question, I don't know if I want to totally get rid of the offseason, but I would prefer a "dead week" to be turned into a dead month. Iowa offers baseball as a summer sport and if we did June as a dead month for other sports, a lot of conflict would be eliminated.
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Post by blb on Apr 4, 2021 9:49:45 GMT -6
In northern-eastern states where Lacrosse is popular, HS associations would have to move it to Fall if Foot Hockey went to Spring.
So no advantage for Football, probably a detriment.
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Post by mattharris75 on Apr 4, 2021 13:05:48 GMT -6
One that just occurred to me and would be very selfish: switch seasons with baseball. The players would be that much more mature, the end of the season could fall after exams, and in many places you'd have the only football in town at that time. You could play day games, wouldn't have to compete for officials, and wouldn't have to share a field with soccer (though you might with lacrosse). Not real fun up North. I'd rather start in the summer and finish when it was getting cold than start in snow and get nothing done for a couple weeks. For our situation I would say move soccer to spring and leave football as the only thing to do in fall. That's the way it is in Alabama, soccer in the spring. Specifically to keep the grass in good shape for football. Priorities and all...  |
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Post by macdiiddy on Apr 4, 2021 14:21:37 GMT -6
Add more officials.
This is just impossible with the current number of refs in our area. But more eyes shouldn’t be a bad thing.
Also, I know people work in crews and have their bonds or whatever. But practically speaking I would like the state to add officials onto crews the farther into the playoffs they go.
Seems like this is a way to actually regulate lineman down field or even basic holding calls on the perimeter
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 4, 2021 15:32:28 GMT -6
One that just occurred to me and would be very selfish: switch seasons with baseball. The players would be that much more mature, the end of the season could fall after exams, and in many places you'd have the only football in town at that time. You could play day games, wouldn't have to compete for officials, and wouldn't have to share a field with soccer (though you might with lacrosse). Not real fun up North. I'd rather start in the summer and finish when it was getting cold than start in snow and get nothing done for a couple weeks. For our situation I would say move soccer to spring and leave football as the only thing to do in fall. ahhh, the joys of the south |
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 4, 2021 15:35:42 GMT -6
- make PI a neutral called foul
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Post by silkyice on Apr 4, 2021 17:17:47 GMT -6
College Hashes
Can throw ball away outside the box - college and NFL rule
minimum of 6 refs
Loss of down with ineligible downfield
I would have changed the cutting rule to immediate cutting in the box, but that is a new rule.
Offensive holding is 10 from LOS or downfield.
Maybe eliminate kickoff
Kickers can't advance a blocked punt or fg
If a ball is touched beyond the neutral zone by the returners and is recovered by the kickers (punt or fg), it has to get past the first down marker for the kickers to get a first down. Otherwise, it is still the returners ball. 4th and 30 and you kick a crappy punt that accidentally hits a returner 10 yards down field. Returners still get the ball.
Overtime from the 25. Much better than the 10 in high school. I would move the college ot back to the 40 or 50.
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Post by coachscdub on Apr 4, 2021 18:00:58 GMT -6
I think im gonna get alot of slack for this but the second one i was pushing for was open field cut blocking.
I think it would be really helpful to have the intentional grounding rule be changed to match the NCAA and NFL just from a safety aspect.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 4, 2021 18:48:08 GMT -6
1-College Hashes 2-Can throw ball away outside the box - college and NFL rule 3-minimum of 6 refs 4-Loss of down with ineligible downfield 5-I would have changed the cutting rule to immediate cutting in the box, but that is a new rule. 6-Offensive holding is 10 from LOS or downfield. 7-Maybe eliminate kickoff 8-Kickers can't advance a blocked punt or fg 9-If a ball is touched beyond the neutral zone by the returners and is recovered by the kickers (punt or fg), it has to get past the first down marker for the kickers to get a first down. Otherwise, it is still the returners ball. 4th and 30 and you kick a crappy punt that accidentally hits a returner 10 yards down field. Returners still get the ball. 10-Overtime from the 25. Much better than the 10 in high school. I would move the college ot back to the 40 or 50. 1 - hades no 2- oh hades no 3- agree, but we as coaches don't help this AT ALL. We need to actively recruit our graduating players to consider the profession. ANd on top of that quit being such arseholes to them during the games. OH and yeah get the hades out of the box and let them focus on the field. 4- okay that 1 I can get behind.... if they call it 5- as a defensive guy I'm all for cutting anywhere on the field... as long as you don't post&cut/double team 6- ehhh, it's a spot foul all over the field 7- ehhhh, I'm with the hoser from up north Chris Clement .... I would look for more ways to include kicking. It adds to the game. 8- not sure why you exclude the kicker from that situation 9- makes sense 10- to me it's a matter of semantics. If you're looking to make the OT more like the actual game go with the old NFL rule-ish. 1 extra period and then just settle for a tie. Starting at the 10/25/40/50/etc... yard line.... all you're doing is deciding on whether the offense or defense should decide a tie game. I like the list though... |
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