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Post by conceptsalignments on Dec 31, 2020 14:51:14 GMT -6
Is it normal for Huey to be this slow during the holidays and early offseason right after the conclusion of the season? For a bit now, when I go to check the subforums, there's almost no new posts...
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Post by CS on Dec 31, 2020 15:34:45 GMT -6
Is it normal for Huey to be this slow during the holidays and early offseason right after the conclusion of the season? For a bit now, when I go to check the subforums, there's almost no new posts... Huey has just slowed down in general |
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Post by Doo on Dec 31, 2020 15:44:04 GMT -6
Is it normal for Huey to be this slow during the holidays and early offseason right after the conclusion of the season? For a bit now, when I go to check the subforums, there's almost no new posts... Huey has just slowed down in general Why is that? |
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Post by Yash on Dec 31, 2020 16:00:21 GMT -6
I think a reason is because Twitter has become a place where people have the same convos that the board used to be the place for. My 2 cents.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 31, 2020 16:17:36 GMT -6
It could be because people have bigger issues than football. Especially the past year or so.
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Post by freezeoption on Dec 31, 2020 17:01:13 GMT -6
I still check Huey. There is always a lull but this year has been crazy.
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Post by **** on Dec 31, 2020 19:34:31 GMT -6
Huey has just slowed down in general Why is that? People like me stopped posting |
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Post by conceptsalignments on Dec 31, 2020 19:52:35 GMT -6
It could be because people have bigger issues than football. Especially the past year or so. Yeah, understandable |
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Post by agap on Dec 31, 2020 21:33:55 GMT -6
There is Twitter like someone else said plus all the podcasts and online clinics. When I first started coaching, there was Glazier, coaches association clinic, and Huey. Now I can find just about anything I want on a podcast or online clinic.
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Post by conceptsalignments on Dec 31, 2020 22:20:02 GMT -6
There is Twitter like someone else said plus all the podcasts and online clinics. When I first started coaching, there was Glazier, coaches association clinic, and Huey. Now I can find just about anything I want on a podcast or online clinic. There's so much detail that you can get into with Huey, and back and forth discussion you don't get in a podcast or online clinic |
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Post by fantom on Dec 31, 2020 22:47:25 GMT -6
There is Twitter like someone else said plus all the podcasts and online clinics. When I first started coaching, there was Glazier, coaches association clinic, and Huey. Now I can find just about anything I want on a podcast or online clinic. There's so much detail that you can get into with Huey, and back and forth discussion you don't get in a podcast or online clinic I agree but Twitter seems to be the trend among younger coaches. I think that one thing that's slowed things down has been that a lot of the guys who've been on here have retired. I know that since I've retired I still enjoy discussing general topics but not Xs and Os. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 31, 2020 23:14:04 GMT -6
There's so much detail that you can get into with Huey, and back and forth discussion you don't get in a podcast or online clinic I agree but Twitter seems to be the trend among younger coaches. I think that one thing that's slowed things down has been that a lot of the guys who've been on here have retired. I know that since I've retired I still enjoy discussing general topics but not Xs and Os. This describes me as well. I still enjoy general football discussions, overall philosophical issues etc. I really don't have much of an appetite for indepth discussions of how to Play a Rip/liz version of Palms against mesh when you get a fast 3  |
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Post by conceptsalignments on Dec 31, 2020 23:18:05 GMT -6
I agree but Twitter seems to be the trend among younger coaches. I think that one thing that's slowed things down has been that a lot of the guys who've been on here have retired. I know that since I've retired I still enjoy discussing general topics but not Xs and Os. This describes me as well. I still enjoy general football discussions, overall philosophical issues etc. I really don't have much of an appetite for indepth discussions of how to Play a Rip/liz version of Palms against mesh when you get a fast 3 Lol |
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Post by agap on Dec 31, 2020 23:18:38 GMT -6
There is Twitter like someone else said plus all the podcasts and online clinics. When I first started coaching, there was Glazier, coaches association clinic, and Huey. Now I can find just about anything I want on a podcast or online clinic. There's so much detail that you can get into with Huey, and back and forth discussion you don't get in a podcast or online clinic I agree, which is why I don't have Twitter anymore. I'd ask about things I saw on there and I would get a reply that didn't really explain anything. |
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Post by agap on Dec 31, 2020 23:20:17 GMT -6
I agree but Twitter seems to be the trend among younger coaches. I think that one thing that's slowed things down has been that a lot of the guys who've been on here have retired. I know that since I've retired I still enjoy discussing general topics but not Xs and Os. This describes me as well. I still enjoy general football discussions, overall philosophical issues etc. I really don't have much of an appetite for indepth discussions of how to Play a Rip/liz version of Palms against mesh when you get a fast 3 Unfortunately you have to do all those things nowadays or you'll give up 50+ points per game. I wish we didn't have to do so much on defense but it's necessary now. |
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Post by conceptsalignments on Jan 1, 2021 1:02:58 GMT -6
This describes me as well. I still enjoy general football discussions, overall philosophical issues etc. I really don't have much of an appetite for indepth discussions of how to Play a Rip/liz version of Palms against mesh when you get a fast 3 Unfortunately you have to do all those things nowadays or you'll give up 50+ points per game. I wish we didn't have to do so much on defense but it's necessary now. Heck you do all that and you still stand to give up 50 😄 |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jan 1, 2021 1:04:12 GMT -6
People like me stopped posting And have unfortunately been replaced by people who know less and also help less. |
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Post by conceptsalignments on Jan 1, 2021 1:07:05 GMT -6
There's so much detail that you can get into with Huey, and back and forth discussion you don't get in a podcast or online clinic I agree, which is why I don't have Twitter anymore. I'd ask about things I saw on there and I would get a reply that didn't really explain anything. Figures. Lol "So, how exactly does your spiller go about doing their job?" "Well, you know, he just crashes up in there and tries to spill the ball like a fuggin badass" "I mean what specifically does he do, like, does he wrong-arm?" "We like to run triple smash rip zip cover orange whiskey fire to the boundary djdjfndjfjfjdjfjfdjdjdjfudue!!!!!" "Thanks, coach." ISTG. I think sometimes people are TRYING to obfuscate and cloud the discussion to impede any real discussion and learning. So frustrating. |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Jan 1, 2021 7:49:13 GMT -6
I agree, which is why I don't have Twitter anymore. I'd ask about things I saw on there and I would get a reply that didn't really explain anything. Figures. Lol "So, how exactly does your spiller go about doing their job?" "Well, you know, he just crashes up in there and tries to spill the ball like a fuggin badass" "I mean what specifically does he do, like, does he wrong-arm?" "We like to run triple smash rip zip cover orange whiskey fire to the boundary djdjfndjfjfjdjfjfdjdjdjfudue!!!!!" "Thanks, coach." ISTG. I think sometimes people are TRYING to obfuscate and cloud the discussion to impede any real discussion and learning. So frustrating. The college guys love that chit. And the best part is when you ask them about blown coverage it's "well see, the player..." "well see, we dont have the talent..." Wait! You're calling a friggin coverage you don't have the TALENT to run? So why call it? Also- if your player doesn't understand the coverage, you're either a bad teacher, or bad at managing your depth chart. When the college fellers blame it on the players: 1) You recruited them, it ain't like HS where SOME of us are stuck with who we got. 2) You have a chit load of time to develop them, they don't play basketball in the winter and lacrosse or baseball in the spring. 3) If they choose their girl or job over training all summer, you just can them for a similar model. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 1, 2021 8:03:21 GMT -6
Figures. Lol "So, how exactly does your spiller go about doing their job?" "Well, you know, he just crashes up in there and tries to spill the ball like a fuggin badass" "I mean what specifically does he do, like, does he wrong-arm?" "We like to run triple smash rip zip cover orange whiskey fire to the boundary djdjfndjfjfjdjfjfdjdjdjfudue!!!!!" "Thanks, coach." ISTG. I think sometimes people are TRYING to obfuscate and cloud the discussion to impede any real discussion and learning. So frustrating. The college guys love that chit. And the best part is when you ask them about blown coverage it's "well see, the player..." "well see, we dont have the talent..." Wait! You're calling a friggin coverage you don't have the TALENT to run? So why call it? Also- if your player doesn't understand the coverage, you're either a bad teacher, or bad at managing your depth chart. When the college fellers blame it on the players: 1) You recruited them, it ain't like HS where SOME of us are stuck with who we got. 2) You have a chit load of time to develop them, they don't play basketball in the winter and lacrosse or baseball in the spring. 3) If they choose their girl or job over training all summer, you just can them for a similar model. Just one point of fact here- college coaches technically don’t have the chit load of time you mention here. Their contact time is limited by rules. From what I have read on this board, lots of HS coaches actually have more time with their players than college coaches I am not a Twitter person, so I can’t comment on the accuracy of the statements here. I can say however that other than the contact time the rest of what you say regarding the coach/player relationship in college ball holds true. Which is why I always wonder why high school coaches spent so much time and effort trying to emulate what college coaches do. |
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Post by Defcord on Jan 1, 2021 9:07:53 GMT -6
This describes me as well. I still enjoy general football discussions, overall philosophical issues etc. I really don't have much of an appetite for indepth discussions of how to Play a Rip/liz version of Palms against mesh when you get a fast 3 Unfortunately you have to do all those things nowadays or you'll give up 50+ points per game. I wish we didn't have to do so much on defense but it's necessary now. Ha! We don’t do any of that and only gave up 25 a game. I will take it as a win. |
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Post by conceptsalignments on Jan 1, 2021 9:12:26 GMT -6
Figures. Lol "So, how exactly does your spiller go about doing their job?" "Well, you know, he just crashes up in there and tries to spill the ball like a fuggin badass" "I mean what specifically does he do, like, does he wrong-arm?" "We like to run triple smash rip zip cover orange whiskey fire to the boundary djdjfndjfjfjdjfjfdjdjdjfudue!!!!!" "Thanks, coach." ISTG. I think sometimes people are TRYING to obfuscate and cloud the discussion to impede any real discussion and learning. So frustrating. The college guys love that chit. And the best part is when you ask them about blown coverage it's "well see, the player..." "well see, we dont have the talent..." Wait! You're calling a friggin coverage you don't have the TALENT to run? So why call it? Also- if your player doesn't understand the coverage, you're either a bad teacher, or bad at managing your depth chart. When the college fellers blame it on the players: 1) You recruited them, it ain't like HS where SOME of us are stuck with who we got. 2) You have a chit load of time to develop them, they don't play basketball in the winter and lacrosse or baseball in the spring. 3) If they choose their girl or job over training all summer, you just can them for a similar model. Yup. There are some good coaches at the college level, but I have seen plenty of stuff, from the team I used to follow and other teams, that looks like they don't properly teach and develop players. I think a lot of people just assume, and will even argue, that because they are coaching at the college level, they are automatically better than ALL HS coaches. Lol. I think you also have a problem with college coaching whereby connections play a bigger role than actual coaching merit. At the high school level, at least if huey is any snapshot into the average staff (it's probably not based on the fact that there are so many detail-oriented, professional, smart coaches on here who desire to learn and get better, but I digress), HCs and coordinators are much more picky about who they allow to coach the team. You will find many people here talk about how it's hard to find good help, and how they would rather coach with a staff of 3 competent coaches than a staff with 10 boob jobs as coaches. |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Jan 1, 2021 11:58:33 GMT -6
The college guys love that chit. And the best part is when you ask them about blown coverage it's "well see, the player..." "well see, we dont have the talent..." Wait! You're calling a friggin coverage you don't have the TALENT to run? So why call it? Also- if your player doesn't understand the coverage, you're either a bad teacher, or bad at managing your depth chart. When the college fellers blame it on the players: 1) You recruited them, it ain't like HS where SOME of us are stuck with who we got. 2) You have a chit load of time to develop them, they don't play basketball in the winter and lacrosse or baseball in the spring. 3) If they choose their girl or job over training all summer, you just can them for a similar model. Just one point of fact here- college coaches technically don’t have the chit load of time you mention here. Their contact time is limited by rules. From what I have read on this board, lots of HS coaches actually have more time with their players than college coaches I am not a Twitter person, so I can’t comment on the accuracy of the statements here. I can say however that other than the contact time the rest of what you say regarding the coach/player relationship in college ball holds true. Which is why I always wonder why high school coaches spent so much time and effort trying to emulate what college coaches do. The strength staff has plenty of time and its not as distracted as HS time. Some schools have 50 min periods, that's still 5 to change in and 5 to change out. You MIGHT have 40 min. The block sched guys have 80 min (so 70) but 2x a week one week and 3x another, and then there are Mon/Fri holidays, weekends are a mess and not worth it, plus you are one coach with 40 players vs GA's, interns, assistants, position coaches (who are at workouts at some schools) etc. I would say btwn that, film sessions, coaching, pre-practice, summers, one sport vs 3 + a travel team or two, etc- they get more time. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 1, 2021 12:19:18 GMT -6
Just one point of fact here- college coaches technically don’t have the chit load of time you mention here. Their contact time is limited by rules. From what I have read on this board, lots of HS coaches actually have more time with their players than college coaches I am not a Twitter person, so I can’t comment on the accuracy of the statements here. I can say however that other than the contact time the rest of what you say regarding the coach/player relationship in college ball holds true. Which is why I always wonder why high school coaches spent so much time and effort trying to emulate what college coaches do. The strength staff has plenty of time and its not as distracted as HS time. Some schools have 50 min periods, that's still 5 to change in and 5 to change out. You MIGHT have 40 min. The block sched guys have 80 min (so 70) but 2x a week one week and 3x another, and then there are Mon/Fri holidays, weekends are a mess and not worth it, plus you are one coach with 40 players vs GA's, interns, assistants, position coaches (who are at workouts at some schools) etc. I would say btwn that, film sessions, coaching, pre-practice, summers, one sport vs 3 + a travel team or two, etc- they get more time. Strength staff is not coaching staff with regards to blown coverages as you mentioned. There are many coaches and posts on this site talking about teams having "qb school" or "fb school" in the offseason, not to mention talk about actual REAL practice during the summer THEN "camp" (Never understood what the hell the need for camp is if you have been practicing all summer) THEN games. All of the other points are very valid. I just wanted to point out that the idea of college football coaches having all this unlimited time with their players is not really the case. |
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Post by conceptsalignments on Jan 1, 2021 12:42:45 GMT -6
the idea of college football coaches having all this unlimited time with their players is not really the case. I think you will see what I am getting at, please don't take this as an attack on what you said, if what you are saying here is true, that college coaches don't have as much time as they supposedly do, how in the heck does Saban manage to teach all the defensive stuff he does, EVEN with one-way players...? That boggles my mind. |
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Post by stilltryin on Jan 1, 2021 13:25:15 GMT -6
This may be getting off the point of how much time a coach gets to spend directly with his players, but the one area where it seems like the college guys have a huge advantage is in time for breaking down film, self-scouting, game-planning specifically for their next opponent based on scheme, personnel, tendencies, etc. ... BEFORE they present all that intel to their players.
Schools like Alabama and LSU are paying former NFL coordinators full-time salaries to do that stuff. High School coaches are trying to fit it in during their lunch period, or while their English Lit class is watching a movie.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jan 1, 2021 14:18:05 GMT -6
I find value in discussing things on twitter and have come across several good ideas I've tried to implement or tried to get our OC/HC to implement. I will say, however, I've been a little turned off the last few days. I read a tweet from someone that basically said that if you were playing a kid in a spot to help you win games as opposed to where he projected to play college ball, you were a selfish coach. The tweet plus how many responded agreeing with the tweet was a big turnoff and therefore my twitter time has been WAY down the last several days.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 1, 2021 14:40:40 GMT -6
I find value in discussing things on twitter and have come across several good ideas I've tried to implement or tried to get our OC/HC to implement. I will say, however, I've been a little turned off the last few days. I read a tweet from someone that basically said that if you were playing a kid in a spot to help you win games as opposed to where he projected to play college ball, you were a selfish coach. The tweet plus how many responded agreeing with the tweet was a big turnoff and therefore my twitter time has been WAY down the last several days. It makes sense if you think about it though. The entire basis of TWITTER is people being self absorbed right? I think it follows logically that in a culture built on the concept of self, the idea of team bigger than individuals may be lost. |
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Post by fantom on Jan 1, 2021 14:55:39 GMT -6
I find value in discussing things on twitter and have come across several good ideas I've tried to implement or tried to get our OC/HC to implement. I will say, however, I've been a little turned off the last few days. I read a tweet from someone that basically said that if you were playing a kid in a spot to help you win games as opposed to where he projected to play college ball, you were a selfish coach. The tweet plus how many responded agreeing with the tweet was a big turnoff and therefore my twitter time has been WAY down the last several days. It makes sense if you think about it though. The entire basis of TWITTER is people being self absorbed right? I think it follows logically that in a culture built on the concept of self, the idea of team bigger than individuals may be lost. Who was in that Twitter discussion? The good thing about Huey is that there are only coaches (mostly) here. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jan 1, 2021 15:31:14 GMT -6
I would guess the twitter discussion was full of a whole bunch of gurus who are willing to train your kid at the position he'll "play in college". For a modest fee.
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