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Post by IronmanFootball on Dec 5, 2020 5:46:34 GMT -6
Not to completely side track this thing...But how many coaches/teachers on here get holiday bonuses? I have worked in 4 different districts and only one of them has given a holiday bonus. My previous district gave every teacher a turkey which later became just a gift certificate to the local grocery store. Nothing at my current job. I've gotten the free turkey coupin too. That was nice. I've gotten a 6'er of beer at one school and gift cards to a bar before.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 5, 2020 7:39:52 GMT -6
I've gotten teaching bonuses twice. LOOOOOng ago got a Christmas bonus of about $100 (which to give you an idea of how much that was a BK Whopper combo that I lived off of was $3.15 and $10 of gas was more than enough to get me around). 2 Years ago the district I was at had a surplus. This district works basically as a consortium with the other districts in the county to keep things relatively equal so they don't have to compete with teacher pay, coaches pay, etc.... So instead of raising teacher pay, they gave out a bonus at the start of school and another in January.
Of the 28 years and of the 5 districts I've coached, only 2 gave out playoff bonuses. It really isn't a 'bonus', we just got a extra week's pay for each round we worked. IE if you had a 10 week/game session, you were paid 1/10th of your supplement for each extra week/game you coached. They do this with every sport.
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Post by Footballguy on Dec 5, 2020 11:10:35 GMT -6
In our district if we make it to the playoffs we receive $150 dollars per week. On longevity pay once you have been on campus for 5 years you get an additional $500 dollars to your stipend. It goes up to $ 1,700.
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Post by bluboy on Dec 5, 2020 11:31:48 GMT -6
Been coaching 48 years. Never got a bonus for winning state title, never got extra pay for extended season (play-offs), and never got extra pay when we opened early. In my area, coaching salaries are part of the teaching contract that the teacher union negotiates.
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Post by utchuckd on Dec 7, 2020 6:52:50 GMT -6
This district works basically as a consortium with the other districts in the county to keep things relatively equal so they don't have to compete with teacher pay, coaches pay, etc.... That sounds like collusion.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 7, 2020 11:32:59 GMT -6
This district works basically as a consortium with the other districts in the county to keep things relatively equal so they don't have to compete with teacher pay, coaches pay, etc.... That sounds like collusion. In sense it may be but no, we are one of the top paying districts in the state for teachers and coaches. It's basically an agreement that one district won't make any of the others in the county look bad. It goes beyond pay; things like school closing for weather are announced by all 7 districts at the same time.
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Post by CoachF on Dec 8, 2020 20:31:15 GMT -6
Getting back to the original question,
I’m still fresh. Year four. Teaching is not that bad. I like my job. I’ve done a lot of manual labor jobs that I actually HATED. Like I couldn’t stop thinking about how much I hated my job before and after the job. For me, teaching has never felt that way.
Do some of my friends make more money? Yeah. But teaching has other benefits too; and money isn’t everything (most people just spend more when they make more).
For example,
I could maybe retire before 65. That’a a big plus. Most of my family never retired: just kept working.
Insurance is pretty good; what some people pay for insurance is disturbing and you could be one surgery away from crippling debt. My parents spent 30% of their income on insurance.
I do drivers ed in the summer, make some extra money. But I don’t “Have” to. 2 months in the summer, spring break, time around holidays-that all adds up.
Job is relatively stress free. If you establish routines and respect; and plan things out, you’re good.
Enjoy coaching a lot. It’s a passion obviously. Sometimes it can be a grind; but some day if I’m the HC I might change up the work load.
I like the idea I can try to make an impact. That my job might help these kids. It can be tough to leave and not have anything tangible to show for it; but making money for someone else isn’t satisfying to me.
Most teachers cause their own headaches. Be like the Patriots and “do your job” keep your head down and just DO YOUR JOB. Own your classroom.
I’m starting my Admin degree. Sure it’s not something I want to do yet, but I might want to in the future. In a lot of ways Admin is similar to coaching.
Some would say admin or teaching is a game. Sure. What career isn’t?
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:12 GMT -6
I would be intrigued to see what your opinion on teaching is 15 years from now.
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Post by carookie on Dec 8, 2020 22:04:02 GMT -6
My wife and I make the same money. I have 6 years on her, same education level. Her COVID bonus was just x10 mine (glad I got one, but still). She works from home every day. She sets her own hours. She can take off whenever she likes. She can drink a glass of wine and work on TPS reports at noon. Most importantly- she can not only go to the bathroom whenever she feels, but has home bowl advantage. I'm in the wrong field. Not to completely side track this thing...But how many coaches/teachers on here get holiday bonuses? I have worked in 4 different districts and only one of them has given a holiday bonus. Never at any public school I worked at. But yeah at every private school I've been at. Heck, I have gotten raises at private schools ahead of longer tenured colleagues because I did a good job. Of course the problem is I make about 2/3 of what a public school teacher make.....so there is that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 6:12:37 GMT -6
Admin. Is a pita... when I have to talk to them.... which is almost never. My job is is by far the easiest job I have ever had. And I work in the worse school district in the state. Private schools can kiss the underside of my ass in regards to pay. Lesson planning is a joke. They will not allow anybody to fail a kid so grading is no problem at all. relative to blue collar work? Ha! don’t get me started on the coaching.
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Post by CoachF on Dec 9, 2020 10:18:47 GMT -6
I would be intrigued to see what your opinion on teaching is 15 years from now. I am sure that I will be more cynical.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 9, 2020 10:54:00 GMT -6
At the end of the day, teaching is what I make of it. My approach to many aspects of the profession have changed dramatically over the years just so that I could avoid getting burned out. And, my career goals changed as well. I've opted to teach in smaller schools as I don't want to take a $5-$10k pay bump but double/triple my classroom sizes.
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Post by nicku on Dec 9, 2020 12:44:42 GMT -6
Most teachers cause their own headaches. Be like the Patriots and “do your job” keep your head down and just DO YOUR JOB. Own your classroom. Absolutely correct. Coaches do this to an extent, too. They make their lives unnecessarily hard by caring about certain things, then wonder why they are in a pissy mood all the time. As my man Bunk Moreland told his good pal Jimmy McNulty..."you are giving a f***, when it aint your turn to give a f***!"
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 9, 2020 15:11:10 GMT -6
I would be intrigued to see what your opinion on teaching is 15 years from now. I am sure that I will be more cynical. Maybe, maybe not. I just re-read your post and saw your comments about the physical labor jobs. There's a good chance we're just built completely different.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 9, 2020 17:06:42 GMT -6
"One man's fun is another's hell."
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Post by CS on Dec 9, 2020 20:08:11 GMT -6
We never got paid a penny more for playoff games. And all playoff gate goes to our state athletic association so maybe the school didn't do much better based on that success either, I don't really know. Our gate does also but the concessions made about 10,000 on home playoff games at my last school
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Post by 44dlcoach on Dec 9, 2020 21:10:16 GMT -6
We never got paid a penny more for playoff games. And all playoff gate goes to our state athletic association so maybe the school didn't do much better based on that success either, I don't really know. Our gate does also but the concessions made about 10,000 on home playoff games at my last school Oh yeah I didn't think of that. I wasn't HC so that was one of those beautiful details that I never had to consider.
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Post by CS on Dec 10, 2020 4:37:23 GMT -6
Our gate does also but the concessions made about 10,000 on home playoff games at my last school Oh yeah I didn't think of that. I wasn't HC so that was one of those beautiful details that I never had to consider. That’s where the school makes all their money anyway. Gate usually pays the bills for the refs, lights etc. I’m at a much smaller school now and even this year with all the covid and limited seating we cleared 1500-3000 per game
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Post by CoachF on Dec 12, 2020 14:45:46 GMT -6
I am sure that I will be more cynical. Maybe, maybe not. I just re-read your post and saw your comments about the physical labor jobs. There's a good chance we're just built completely different. To be clear-physical labor doesn’t bother me. It was the two summers in a factory that sucked the soul out of me and convinced me to finish school.
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Post by fantom on Dec 12, 2020 15:11:39 GMT -6
Maybe, maybe not. I just re-read your post and saw your comments about the physical labor jobs. There's a good chance we're just built completely different. To be clear-physical labor doesn’t bother me. It was the two summers in a factory that sucked the soul out of me and convinced me to finish school. Great motivator to stay in school.
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Post by Defcord on Dec 13, 2020 7:31:33 GMT -6
Maybe, maybe not. I just re-read your post and saw your comments about the physical labor jobs. There's a good chance we're just built completely different. To be clear-physical labor doesn’t bother me. It was the two summers in a factory that sucked the soul out of me and convinced me to finish school. You aren’t kidding. I worked at a place that made glade plug in molds and used to break my machine on purpose to get an extra break. There were old ladies that had worked there for years on that job and I don’t know how they did it. It had to be a deep love for their family because I did it one summer and was miserable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 9:06:28 GMT -6
I got out of teaching 2 years ago. We just kept having administrative turnover at literally every level above me each year and I got sick of the politics and micromanaging pettiness of the ones who kept getting hired. It was the 4th system I’d worked in and the 3rd with a very toxic environment. My current job actually pays slightly less, but I’m ok with that. I now work with kids at an adolescent psych ward.
Even with the “fun” that provides on a daily basis, it’s still a lot less BS than what I dealt with in teaching and I am thankful for it every day, especially with Covid forcing the other teachers in our area to basically do double the amount of work teaching virtual and hybrid classes at the same time, but not getting any more pay.
Unfortunately, I had to sit out coaching this year due to my new work schedule. I missed it, especially the coaches and kids I worked with at my school last season, but all the Covid related craziness made football a nightmare this year so I’m not too upset. I’d love to coach again next year if I could find a good situation and work out the schedule changes with my employer, but at this point in life I don’t have much interest in starting over as a get back coach or JV assistant again.
Since getting out of teaching, I’ve lost about 35 pounds without consciously trying, getting me healthier mentally and physically at 40 than I have been in years. I loved the kids I had in class, but all the demands and overall mismanagement you find in education was killing me.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 14, 2020 9:38:02 GMT -6
We got a bonus this year. They didn't call it China virus bonus, nor a Christmas bonus... just called it a 'Thank you' bonus.
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Post by Wingtman on Dec 14, 2020 10:13:24 GMT -6
Lucky to still coach. You know when I miss the classroom? June and July. But, I work from home, make $500 more a month, my kids insurance is damn near free...it's gonna take something crazy to get me back into a school.
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Post by irishdog on Jan 24, 2021 17:52:48 GMT -6
"Retired" 3 years ago. Had been in education/coaching for 45 years starting out as a volunteer assistant on a freshman team and JV team. After completing my BA became a college assistant, then a DII coordinator while finishing up my MA. Started a family, found college coaching/recruiting not conducive to being a good family man and a good coach, and eventually became a high school head coach and teacher (which was still a grind in its own way, but provided the time I needed to be with family). In the meantime I went from the classroom to administration. At first I welcomed retirement, golfing, being lazy, not a care in the world, but couldn't get coaching out of my system, so I decided to be an assistant at a private school for the past few years. But, as the line in the Godfather III movie goes, "Once you think you're out they pull you right back in!"
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Post by coachirish on May 3, 2021 7:49:45 GMT -6
Anybody ever stay in or get out due coaching your own kid on the team?
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Post by tog on May 3, 2021 8:14:33 GMT -6
Anybody ever stay in or get out due coaching your own kid on the team? have seen coaches do it either way usually when getting out--their kid was at a different school, they got out to just be able to go see them play I have always appreciated the coach/son combo on the teams I have been around. Those kids were usually our best players (maybe not the best athletes, but the best players). And I got to know most of them since they were in 5th or sixth grade and worked with their dads. If there was any question about the kid being up on varsity or on jv---the HC's I worked for did a great job of not making it about the nepotism thing. The other members of that side of the ball made the call. I thought that was important. I never heard any grumblings from the other kids either. They knew those kids ate/slept/breathed this stuff and were going to do it right.
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Post by bigmoot2 on May 3, 2021 10:37:05 GMT -6
Anybody ever stay in or get out due coaching your own kid on the team? Yep. Ive coached for 26 years. my kid plays high school for 3 more then its over. i can coach again afterwards
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Post by coachirish on May 3, 2021 10:40:36 GMT -6
Anybody ever stay in or get out due coaching your own kid on the team? Yep. Ive coached for 26 years. my kid plays high school for 3 more then its over. i can coach again afterwards So you are getting out when your son graduates OR getting back in?
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Post by bigmoot2 on May 3, 2021 10:44:30 GMT -6
Yep. Ive coached for 26 years. my kid plays high school for 3 more then its over. i can coach again afterwards So you are getting out when your son graduates OR getting back in? Just got out. He goes to a different school than the one i coached at. Time to be a dad on Fridays
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