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Post by bopper235 on Aug 1, 2007 8:37:37 GMT -6
Moving to a new city to teach Physical Education and become head coach football at a middle school. I previously taught 3rd Grade Reading, Math, and Language arts at my old school. My question to the P.E. teachers out there is what is you daily routine like? What is your grading system? Any info would help.
Thanks in Advance!!!!
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 8:41:49 GMT -6
pretty much, check role.. roll out a basketball.. daily participation and dress out grade.. about it.. Of course some people are real teachers and actually construct a real PE class.. but who has time for all that???
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Post by coachjd on Aug 1, 2007 10:00:45 GMT -6
3 days per week
role 2 min dynamic warm-up 8 min fitness activity (agilities, shuttle runs, plyo's, circuits, etc) 10-15 min unit activity (game) 15-20 min shower 6 min.
2 days a week role 2 min dynamic 8 min weightlifting 30-35 min shower
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Post by bopper235 on Aug 1, 2007 10:02:08 GMT -6
Are you serious?
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 10:39:35 GMT -6
which one? I am dead serious!!
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 1, 2007 11:15:41 GMT -6
Airraider - I know you've got to be kidding! THe days of roll the ball out are LONG GONE!
Bopper - having taught PE for a few years before becoming an AD I can tell you coachjds plan is similar to what I did. PE is NOT recess and you should take pride in the lessons that you are delivering to your students.
As for as grading, we go as follows - 5 points possible per day
1 point for being on time (not tardy) 1 point for wearing PE uniform - tshirt, shorts, sneakers 1 point for showering 2 points for participation, behavior, etc.
Total points are put into whatever grade % breakdown your school uses. Very straight forward, easy to handle.
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 11:46:33 GMT -6
Airraider - I know you've got to be kidding! THe days of roll the ball out are LONG GONE! Bopper - having taught PE for a few years before becoming an AD I can tell you coachjds plan is similar to what I did. PE is NOT recess and you should take pride in the lessons that you are delivering to your students. As for as grading, we go as follows - 5 points possible per day 1 point for being on time (not tardy) 1 point for wearing PE uniform - tshirt, shorts, sneakers 1 point for showering 2 points for participation, behavior, etc. Total points are put into whatever grade % breakdown your school uses. Very straight forward, easy to handle. Actually not at all.. I do not teach PE myself.. But I am certified.. Our PE Teacher last year simply checked roll.. gave them some basketballs.. and told them to either be in the Gym playing ball or in the weightroom doing homework, lifting, or sleeping.. He then went to his office and read the paper.. or whatever.. PE is about to soon be phased out other than athletics.. at that school there were 2 PE classes for boys in the whole school other than athletics.. he had them both.. about 20 kids each..
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Post by brophy on Aug 1, 2007 11:55:25 GMT -6
which one? I am dead serious!! = education system in louisiana
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Post by coachcalande on Aug 1, 2007 11:57:19 GMT -6
Moving to a new city to teach Physical Education and become head coach football at a middle school. I previously taught 3rd Grade Reading, Math, and Language arts at my old school. My question to the P.E. teachers out there is what is you daily routine like? What is your grading system? Any info would help. Thanks in Advance!!!! Find out if your school has a curriculum written and follow it. Find out what your principal believes in (ie handle your own discipline)- find out what the state standards for pe are and go that route as best you can.
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Post by los on Aug 1, 2007 12:06:16 GMT -6
Nice jd, I loved hearing the ms kids talk about their tough pe classes! Saved us from having conditioning at football practice, more time for other stuff.
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Post by seagull73 on Aug 1, 2007 12:08:14 GMT -6
Google PE Central. It is a web site dedicated to Physical Education. If you just roll out the ball how can you expect your players to do thier job to the best of their ability.
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 12:27:27 GMT -6
Google PE Central. It is a web site dedicated to Physical Education. If you just roll out the ball how can you expect your players to do thier job to the best of their ability. You guys are all speaking in the all childen want to learn world.. yall may talk and even play a good game.. but you can bet your last dollar that 80% of the PE coaches out there just roll out a ball.. disclaimer.. I DONT TEACH PE.. so dont get the idea in your head that I do this.. I am just saying.. that the sad reality is that "most" PE coaches dont do jack.. Now, I might just be bitter after seeing the guy last year earn good money for not doing jack.. but.. ive seen several examples at the high school level in our area in the last several years where the ball was just being rolled out.
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Post by bopper235 on Aug 1, 2007 12:31:00 GMT -6
Brophy, My new job is in Louisiana
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Post by wildcat on Aug 1, 2007 13:30:02 GMT -6
There are plenty of PE teachers who just "roll the ball out". Not saying that it is right. Just saying that is the way it is. Just like there are plenty of Social Studies teachers who have the superhero alter-ego of "Captain Video".
In our district, there is a big push for PE teachers to be more "lifestyle" oriented. In other words, they are supposed to be pushing healthy eating and exercise instead of simply playing games.
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Post by coachaaron on Aug 1, 2007 13:39:49 GMT -6
I like doing: Attendance 2 min Dynamic Warm up 5-8 min Jump right into unit activity/or if new unit, skill development time and going over game rules etc. Last 5 min - cool down static stretch. For grading: A = on time, changed in proper attire, participating, good attitude. C = missing one of the above (except participation . . .that is a must) F = missing more than one item above. For a good, but maybe overly complex grading ruberic, check this out: sch.ci.lexington.ma.us/~drolfe/Grading%20Rubric
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Post by coachaaron on Aug 1, 2007 13:43:59 GMT -6
By the way, my class is what they call a "wellness" curriculmn, meaning we are in the classroom doing health class everyother day, and in the gym/field the other days. Health class includes physical health (nutrition, anatomy, sex ed, etc), mental health (facts about mental illness, livng well rounded life, healthy relationships, etc), and various substance abuse topics.
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 1, 2007 14:26:39 GMT -6
Not to hijack this thread but how many of you Head Coaches (or those who desire to be a head coach one day) would tolerate one of your teacher-coaches who used the "Roll the ball out" or "Capt. Video" teachnique in their class teaching? I'm not saying you fire the guy but to let someone that is in your program (as a coach) to continue to operate in such an unprofessional manner just doesnt sit right with me. Lazy teacher = Lazy coach!
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Post by airman on Aug 1, 2007 15:17:47 GMT -6
life time sports philosophy. golf, tennis, softball, bowling, ultimate frisby, badmittion, pingpong.
one teacher joked, we should add beer drinking cause in wisconsin it is part of golf, softball and bowling for sure.
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 15:20:17 GMT -6
Not to hijack this thread but how many of you Head Coaches (or those who desire to be a head coach one day) would tolerate one of your teacher-coaches who used the "Roll the ball out" or "Capt. Video" teachnique in their class teaching? I'm not saying you fire the guy but to let someone that is in your program (as a coach) to continue to operate in such an unprofessional manner just doesnt sit right with me. Lazy teacher = Lazy coach! actually doesnt bother me at all. As long as he is doing his job on the field and it wont get him fired as a teacher, then its none of my business.
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Post by airman on Aug 1, 2007 15:24:03 GMT -6
Not to hijack this thread but how many of you Head Coaches (or those who desire to be a head coach one day) would tolerate one of your teacher-coaches who used the "Roll the ball out" or "Capt. Video" teachnique in their class teaching? I'm not saying you fire the guy but to let someone that is in your program (as a coach) to continue to operate in such an unprofessional manner just doesnt sit right with me. Lazy teacher = Lazy coach! not sure if this is true. I know a guy who is a great coach but a bad teacher. they call him Mr.HP. cause he prints their work sheets out on the HP printer.
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 15:52:45 GMT -6
There is a reason that the stereotype about coaches being bad teachers exists.. Because there are a lot who are..
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Post by lionhart on Aug 1, 2007 15:54:08 GMT -6
yes there will be some PE teachers who give the kids "free play time" every day, but they are fewer and far between now. you are responsible for TEACHING A CLASS not babysitting, and its important to remember that. i always broke up the marking period into week-long activity groups. we would work on skills for a few minutes then break up into teams and have tournaments. example is badminton... (always try to pick activities the girls can do as well) at the end of the week, the tournamnet champions are awarded "bonus" points added to their grade. my advice is to keep the kids engaged, and keep as much structure as you can. oh yeah, my real question is how did you get a PE job if you are not certified? is that standard hiring procedure where you live? im PE/health certified and i CERTAINLY couldnt get hired to teach algebra. just curious on that
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 16:13:16 GMT -6
Who said they werent certified to teach PE?
Also, here in Louisiana, as long as you are not a title 1 school you can hire a teacher out of their certification area.. Certified teachers are hard to find these days and someone has to teach the classes..
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Post by lionhart on Aug 1, 2007 16:22:33 GMT -6
bopper said he had taught reading, math and language arts....... and was asking how to run a gym class. this would lead me to believe he was not certified in that area. here in nj, if you arent certified in a specific subject you absolutely cant teach it. they used to hire you and give you a 3 year window to get your teacher's cert. in that particular area, but that was stopped. im not being critical of your system, i just cant imagine having someone who isnt qualified (as per state regulations) teaching a content area. i know as a parent i sure as hell wouldnt want someone not cerified in a subject trying to teach MY kids.
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 1, 2007 16:48:36 GMT -6
Looks like I may pull a coachcalande on this one (Sorry Steve ) but if I had an assistant who wouldn't clean up his act in the classroom and teach, he'd be gone. It comes down to a matter of professional pride and care for the kids he's supposed to be "Teaching."
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 16:51:15 GMT -6
bopper said he had taught reading, math and language arts....... and was asking how to run a gym class. this would lead me to believe he was not certified in that area. here in nj, if you arent certified in a specific subject you absolutely cant teach it. they used to hire you and give you a 3 year window to get your teacher's cert. in that particular area, but that was stopped. im not being critical of your system, i just cant imagine having someone who isnt qualified (as per state regulations) teaching a content area. i know as a parent i sure as hell wouldnt want someone not cerified in a subject trying to teach MY kids. just the nature of the beast.. you cant invent teachers.. if you DONT have someone certified.. then you have to go with someone who isnt.. its just that simple.. All this NCLB crap is going to screw us all.. how can you improve every year?? There has to be a plateau somewhere.. when I first got into coaching when I went to college.. my old school had a guy teaching social studies who only had a degree in avionics.. a guy teaching broadcasting who had a degree in business.. Back them.. before NCLB.. you could teach anything if you had any 4 year degree.. some places did.. and still do let you teach with a 2 year degree.. now you have to be working towards certification.. but back then.. you could just teach with any ole degree.. Now during any given summer college session you can go into an education class and see 10 or more teachers working on getting certified.. these are teachers who may have worked for 20 years with a degree in nursing.. but now have to go back to get certified..
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Post by darebelcoach on Aug 1, 2007 16:54:53 GMT -6
Guys, we should all be careful about making generalizations about things. I am a P.E. teacher for the past 7 years and a head football coach, in Illinois, one of the last states that requires P.E. I take my role as a P.E. teacher very serious, just as any other teacher does, to make a generalization that most P.E. teachers just roll out a ball is ridiculous and something I take offense to. I went to college for 4 years just like any other teacher. Are there some days when I would rather just roll out a ball and yell "free day"? Yes there is, but I am pretty sure any teacher could say that whether it is math, English, science or social studies. I am not saying that there are not some P.E. teachers out there that do that because I am sure there are but to make that broad of a statement is ridiculous because again, it could be said about any type of teacher. My students have different activities and sports that we participate in and they are required to know rules and regulations and get tested on them at the ned of each unit, which is a big part of their grade, so rolling out a ball would not be an option, especially if I want to keep my job.
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 16:58:20 GMT -6
Looks like I may pull a coachcalande on this one (Sorry Steve ) but if I had an assistant who wouldn't clean up his act in the classroom and teach, he'd be gone. It comes down to a matter of professional pride and care for the kids he's supposed to be "Teaching." are you saying this as a head coach or as a principal? as a HC it really doesnt fall under your jurisdiction as to what he is doing in his classroom. I mean I guess you could fire the guy for whatever reason you wanted.. but I feel that would be a bad reason..
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 1, 2007 17:00:39 GMT -6
Thanks for that post darebelcoach! I was beginning to wonder if there were any other pro's out there! Keep it Up!
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Post by airraider on Aug 1, 2007 17:01:32 GMT -6
Guys, we should all be careful about making generalizations about things. I am a P.E. teacher for the past 7 years and a head football coach, in Illinois, one of the last states that requires P.E. I take my role as a P.E. teacher very serious, just as any other teacher does, to make a generalization that most P.E. teachers just roll out a ball is ridiculous and something I take offense to. I went to college for 4 years just like any other teacher. Are there some days when I would rather just roll out a ball and yell "free day"? Yes there is, but I am pretty sure any teacher could say that whether it is math, English, science or social studies. I am not saying that there are not some P.E. teachers out there that do that because I am sure there are but to make that broad of a statement is ridiculous because again, it could be said about any type of teacher. My students have different activities and sports that we participate in and they are required to know rules and regulations and get tested on them at the ned of each unit, which is a big part of their grade, so rolling out a ball would not be an option, especially if I want to keep my job. No, you are taking offense to a statement that you are lumping yourself into inadvertantly. I said "most" do it.. that could be 6 out of 10.. 51 out of 100.. 501 out of 1000.. you get the point.. I am sure there are some great PE teachers out there.. and I am fully confident that you are one of them.. but "most" that I know roll out the ball.. Sure no one is gonna come on here and say.. yea.. Im a PE teacher and I just roll out the ball and tell them to go play.. I just thought of 9 PE teachers that I know.. all but 1.. just rolls out the basketball.. the one is a lady who teaches girls PE.. she actually teaches..
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