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Post by 54695469 on Mar 28, 2020 19:49:10 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc...
Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach!
Stop all the other BS!
I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess...
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Post by silkyice on Mar 28, 2020 20:14:29 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... I agree with this. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 29, 2020 6:41:13 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... . I think you drastically over-represent what the actual landscape is. At least compared to my neck of the woods. |
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Post by s73 on Mar 29, 2020 8:25:22 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... Right , wrong or otherwise, I think football is the best "taught" subject in many schools. By extension, as a result, so are many life lessons. Which, b/c of these "lessons" is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 24, 2020 20:44:15 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... Your opinions and understanding of program culture mirror many basketball or basebball coaches' opinions and understanding of Strength training. |
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Post by vanden48 on Apr 25, 2020 19:08:21 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... So I have read two different arguments in this thread for why kids are not playing football. Argument 1: Football = Weight Training. Basketball and other sports = NO Weight Training. More kids are choosing NO Weight Training. Solution: Athletic department wide in-season and off-season weight training for all sports. If coaches are telling their players to not lift weights that is professionally irresponsible. Don't stop weight training. When the basketball coach tells the kids to not lift, inform that player that not lifting makes them more susceptible to injuries. Argument 2: Coaching Football Skills only. Vs Including non-football related social and emotional education and focused leadership development in the coaching. Non football sports are only coaching skills, kids don't want to hear someone tell them about responsibility, accountability, or leadership. Football Coaches that do that are losing those kids. Solution: Coach the way you are comfortable. If you fake it, the kids will leave. If you are not into that culture crap, don't do it. If you are, do it as best you can and hire coaches that will do it with you. Bottom line is be the best you that you can be for the kids. They will either like you or they won't. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 19:40:38 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... So I have read two different arguments in this thread for why kids are not playing football. Argument 1: Football = Weight Training. Basketball and other sports = NO Weight Training. More kids are choosing NO Weight Training. Solution: Athletic department wide in-season and off-season weight training for all sports. If coaches are telling their players to not lift weights that is professionally irresponsible. Don't stop weight training. When the basketball coach tells the kids to not lift, inform that player that not lifting makes them more susceptible to injuries. Argument 2: Coaching Football Skills only. Vs Including non-football related social and emotional education and focused leadership development in the coaching. Non football sports are only coaching skills, kids don't want to hear someone tell them about responsibility, accountability, or leadership. Football Coaches that do that are losing those kids. Solution: Coach the way you are comfortable. If you fake it, the kids will leave. If you are not into that culture crap, don't do it. If you are, do it as best you can and hire coaches that will do it with you. Bottom line is be the best you that you can be for the kids. They will either like you or they won't. I will suggest preaching drives away.just coach fb or whatever coach it is you coach. |
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Post by 54695469 on Apr 25, 2020 22:35:58 GMT -6
Sure. But you do so by "just coaching!" You teach all the principals and lessons but you do it by coaching rather than being a cultural leader and pastor, etc... Hell, if a kid is late, you teach him about being on time and self-discipline right there (is: push-ups, sit on the bench, run a mile, whatever)... You don't have to have a curriculum written up by some social media guru. A kid said something inappropriate, you handle it then and there. You didn't have to role play anything or have a kid do a worksheet to learn that he needs to think before he says something stupid! That's what coaches do! They coach football and in the process of doing so, they teach things... Just coach! Stop all the other BS! I (me and my teammates) learned about respect, discipline, being on time, humility, etc...and I can't recall ever having been the recipient of a lesson about culture or whatever from our coaches. These things were just a part of what they coached. But, I understand, things change, I guess... Your opinions and understanding of program culture mirror many basketball or basebball coaches' opinions and understanding of Strength training. Ok, Skippy... Tweet away, you big culture-warrior. Your colleagues are rolling their eyes and laughing at you as you grind away. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 26, 2020 8:35:50 GMT -6
Your opinions and understanding of program culture mirror many basketball or basebball coaches' opinions and understanding of Strength training. Ok, Skippy... Tweet away, you big culture-warrior. Your colleagues are rolling their eyes and laughing at you as you grind away. Thanks for proving my point. Anytime the word "culture" is mentioned you seem to believe it involves twitter, social media, pastoral actions by a coach etc. That is not what the vast majority define as culture. Just as we know that anytime weight training is brought up to many basketball or baseball coaches, they seem to believe it will result in players looking like bodybuiders and becoming musclebound and tight--therefore "messing up their shots" or "screwing with their swings". That is not what the vast majority of training programs yield. |
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