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Post by coachd5085 on May 4, 2021 17:55:57 GMT -6
Maybe it's a stupid "rule"? I don't think so. I have been apart of 2 different successful teams that used this same mindset. Saturday "wraps up" everything to do with Jefferson high. On Monday, we start fresh on Lincoln.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 4, 2021 17:53:09 GMT -6
We go Saturday mornings. 1) We have a 24 hour rule. 24 hours to celebrate a win or mourn a loss. I feel like we violate that rule when we put off the film until Monday. Plus I want all attention on us and the next team on Monday. Not the last game. You also don't honor it by having practice 10 hours after the game. I don't see how that is accurate. The practice on Saturday has to do with Friday nights game. Any review, commiseration, celebration etc. fall within the parameters set.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2021 20:11:42 GMT -6
I figured it was more the cancer. I didn’t know that. In that case, I apologize for making snide remarks at his expense and wish him a fast and thorough recovery. Cancer is nothing to joke about. Don't. Plenty of good, honest humans are afflicted and deserve your sympathies and well wishes. From all accounts, he is not one of them. F him and his dishonesty on and off the field.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2021 19:59:13 GMT -6
What are your thoughts on the next developments/evolutions in the game of football? Note: I am not talking about old trends coming back around, either in the same form or some altered form (an example of that would be single wing coming back around in Urban Meyer's offense and the Wildcat). What I am talking about is new stuff. For an example of this that has already happened, think about pattern read coverage. This wasn't much of a thing if at all 50 years ago. Today it has exploded into all kinds of variations Another example would be modern RPOs. No one pushed the limit with RPOs 50 years ago like people have started to do the last 10 years Another example would be widespread and significantly developed use of no huddle and tempo. There's no huddle hurry up, no huddle lightning, no huddle maximum slowdown, etc I don't want to sound nearsighted, but are we perhaps reaching a ceiling/natural limit/zenith in terms of new developments? It seems like we are running out of new stuff. I can't see much more new that could emerge, but there again, a lot of coaches 50 years ago couldn't envision what we have now. This reminds me in my studies of Marxism. Innovation doesn't come from a panel of enlightened individuals. Innovation comes from a guy just trying to scratch by, working in his garage. You're asking the former. The latter is probably still trying to make the team. Deep. Probably very accurate.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2021 13:20:04 GMT -6
Unfortunately, doesn't that promote the argument for year round specialists and year round sports? It promotes the argument for individual teams, but it can also promote the argument for associations to restrict some of that stuff, rather than adjust rules to expand it, which has been the trend in a lot of places. I agree with that, but I am not quite sure that restrictions from associations would do the trick. Fairly sure skirting the rules is not uncommon
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2021 8:16:09 GMT -6
My state played in the fall and it was a mess. A few minutes away, VA played in the spring and it was also a mess. One thing I noticed is that the teams who usually dominate by having a bunch of “football specialists” and doing all the constant, intense offseason work seemed to have more competitive games with the teams they usually blow out by 50, which struggle to put all that stuff together. Unfortunately, doesn't that promote the argument for year round specialists and year round sports?
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 29, 2021 21:19:39 GMT -6
What you are describing has happened for millennia in all fields. That is what makes something innovative- nobody could imagine it previously The Innovacion might be in something schematic, war philosophical. For example how many of the recent and next round of great wide receivers would have been defense of ends in the past? You were seeing adventure paradigm shift in major league baseball end basketball with regards to scoring. In baseball swing mechanics are changing as data is showing the most efficient way to score might be The long ball (plus chicks dig it). In basketball three point shots are hit with such accuracy that it is redefining appropriate shooting range Something like that will come along in football soon – but no one will ever think of it until someone actually thinks of it I get what you are saying, but at the same time, at some point, arent we going to reach a point where there's not much else we can innovate? And, having the perspective and information we do now, it seems like we are approaching that point. What you mention about the receivers and ends, that's more a result of changes in players rather than something that is a strategic or tactical innovation...I guess you were just trying to make an analogy, just saying that's not an example of what I am talking about. Innovation is innovation. Now, as others have mentioned, schematic type innovations probably change more due to rule changes, but the type of changes in mindset I mentioned will also fuel them. The proliferation of the fade pass as a staple of red zone play probably comes from the fact that Defensive Ends now play WR. Yes, schematic innovation frequency will trend downward the longer the governing dynamics (basically rules) remain the same. But as I said, no one will be able to imagine the next one until someone imagines the next one. That is how innovation in all fields works.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 29, 2021 5:59:12 GMT -6
Interesting. I sure wish I had a crystal ball. New "developments" can wreak havoc for a couple of years until someone stops it. Then, for the next couple of years everyone who jumps on board, (O or D) refines a technique...changes personnel...writes a book, starts a blog...then, when you take it apart and analyze it, you realize that it's all been done before. Something of what we're doing today was probably done by Glen Warner in 1912. It was just tweaked a bit. Yeah. I mentioned RPOs, that's certainly not entirely new depending on which RPO you are talking about, but the level coaches have taken it to is definitely new. It obviously works and is very effective, so why didn't the "RPO revolution" happen 50 or 60 years ago instead of only in the last 10 years? That's something that came about because some coaches started experimenting and also pushing the envelope in terms of the rules, discovered something that worked, and it started catching on. I can't envision there being too many more things like that being "uncovered"/discovered. . What you are describing has happened for millennia in all fields. That is what makes something innovative- nobody could imagine it previously The Innovacion might be in something schematic, war philosophical. For example how many of the recent and next round of great wide receivers would have been defense of ends in the past? You were seeing adventure paradigm shift in major league baseball end basketball with regards to scoring. In baseball swing mechanics are changing as data is showing the most efficient way to score might be The long ball (plus chicks dig it). In basketball three point shots are hit with such accuracy that it is redefining appropriate shooting range Something like that will come along in football soon – but no one will ever think of it until someone actually thinks of it
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 26, 2021 13:43:11 GMT -6
Honestly at this point why waste the time? You can't do much with 8 players. Not sure of the break down but what if it's like 7 wr and 1 ol? Like someone else said open the weightroom and do some conditioning drills. Work to try and get kids out. Not much else you can do. I know it's tough but lots of places are struggling now. District I work in the HC resigned Dec 17. Still haven't hired anyone. Students just came back for any in person learning 3 weeks ago. Not allowed to open the weightroom. Gonna be real interesting to see how the team ends up this coming season. Just a complete disaster. I keep forgetting that in some parts- kids have been at home. At the elementary level I have been full-time face-to-face five days a week all year. Our junior high and high school’s had a hybrid model and now full-time after November
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 26, 2021 7:49:11 GMT -6
I did not read the OP as having “dudes” as in 8 good specimens among the rest of the average untalented kids. I read it as he only has 8 kids out for spring football- total. ahhh good catch that term always meant something else to me duh on my part Me too. 8 dudes on a team would normally Be a good thing
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 26, 2021 5:45:35 GMT -6
if you have 8 dudes--you are above the fray what do you do when you have no dudes? like at all? that is the real conundrum I did not read the OP as having “dudes” as in 8 good specimens among the rest of the average untalented kids. I read it as he only has 8 kids out for spring football- total.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 25, 2021 19:07:31 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 25, 2021 9:32:57 GMT -6
I had made a post on an old thread (from 2019 maybe). This thread had what appears to be an Anchor icon in front of it. Have never seen that before. Interestingly, unlike normal threads, after posting on it, the thread did not appear at the beginning of the sub category list anymore.
I have never witnessed this with any other thread on the site. Just thought it was interesting. Might be a potential solution to threads that are pretty solid but then get derailed as opposed to locking or deleting.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 24, 2021 19:15:14 GMT -6
Reading about the enormous backlash against the European soccer "Super league" idea made me remember this thread and have an even deeper understanding about what was being discussed.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 22, 2021 6:05:11 GMT -6
I think a SUPER/DIRECTOR/PRINCIPAL should support for sure but there needs to be an understanding that certain teaching spots are meant to be filled by coaches. I am not downplaying importance of academics at all they should still be teachers, however, at the biggest school in my district, they have 2 PE teachers and 7 history teachers. Of those teaching spots, 1 coaches GOLF, and 1 is Head Baseball coach. This should never happen IMHO. Not that those subjects arent important, but at least half of those should be reserved for coaches. Do you want your child taught by the best available applicant, or the one who got the position because it was reserved? Should those spots be reserved for softball, track, volleyball, cross country, soccer coaches? Or just football?
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 20, 2021 10:54:20 GMT -6
I am curious how many schools the superintendent overseas in many of the districts represented by the posters above. Our superintendent overseas 57 schools, eight of them being high schools. In the 15 years I’ve been here I don’t think they have ever been involved in athletics at all. Not negatively or positively. I fully admit there is the possibility that I am simply unaware of any type of involvement
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 19, 2021 18:36:07 GMT -6
I would say the issue is less around transferring because a kid is unhappy and is more so focused around other schools poaching kids away. In my seven years of coaching i have seen numerous kids get recruited to other schools, but last year was the first year we had a kid transfer because he felt he was being overlooked at our school That would support my theory that some of this is because the kids enjoy being pursued.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 19, 2021 18:04:01 GMT -6
What about the sentiment (with regards to college transfers) "Coaches can move for a better situation. Why not the player?" I am not saying I necessarily agree with that, but that is an argument sometimes used. I absolutely agree with it. No problems at all. It seems that the portal process has made it easier for athletes to explore other options. Of course, it goes both ways. Enter the portal, and the program doesn't need to take you back.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 17, 2021 18:36:06 GMT -6
I think the trend is down from adults to youth to college (searching for better jobs/situations to telling our kids they deserve the same) College transfers don’t bother me one bit My question is, how many people “stuck it out” in college football spots 10-15-20 years ago that turned out to be bad spots for them. Undoubtedly it has increased but I’d be curious to see that. Valid points. But I think (just a gut feeling, no evidence) that some of this is coming from the perversion of the recruiting process led by the recruiting media. But after seeing that some HS kids are now announcing their "commitments" as preferred walk ons on twitter. I find it hard to believe that some of these kids aren't doing this simply to get fawned over again in some way.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 17, 2021 11:11:06 GMT -6
Transfer restrictions were put in a long time ago to stop the "tramp athlete" (Google it) that was prevalent during the infancy of Intercollegiate Athletics and to try to foster fair competition and preserve the ideal of amateur athletics. Perhaps those exist only at the D-III level anymore. From what I understand, it isn't even uniformly "pure" at that level. Some schools apparently have renegade programs hell bent on winning and some have programs with competitive mindset of jr high schools.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 17, 2021 7:10:11 GMT -6
Are we seeing the culture of transfers, be it bouncing from youth ball leagues/travel ball teams as well as shopping high schools and bouncing around from school to school move upward into the college ranks. Seems you can't go more than a few hours without someone "entering the portal" (ominous sound).
I don't think I have any issues with it on the surface, but I do wonder if it will start to impact the lives of the individuals in other ways as it seems this is becoming more of an embedded behavior.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 16, 2021 17:30:50 GMT -6
Why not? The coach can make a decision for himself based on the information at hand. Nobody is forcing him to move. I wouldn’t ask... if they ask, different story. Somebody wanting, willing to moving is different than somebody who has shown no desire. And if they have no desire, if they aren't wanting and willing to move they just say "no".
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 15, 2021 19:05:53 GMT -6
The hypothetical school could very well be across town within driving distance. but what if it’s not? Then maybe the coach decides not to take the position.... ?
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 14, 2021 19:40:48 GMT -6
Saw this topic touched on in another thread and didn't want to hijack so Ill bring it up here. If you get hired on as a HC at a school, and were previously a coordinator or position coach at a different school, what is the accepted rules and protocol for taking coaches with you from your current school to new one? I had heard some coaches say that you can take one guy with you, which seems a fair way to not hurt the program you were at while still allowing coaches to progress in their career and help you build at your new place. But what are thoughts on this? I would say you should be able to take any that want to go if it is a better situation for them. Realistically, in most cases how many will that be? How many will be able to secure teaching spots? How many would be going into better coaching situations than they already are, OR than they will be if others leave the program with you?
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 14, 2021 16:30:25 GMT -6
First, you should be ashamed that in the example you are talking about quick screens from the 3. Run the ball or wear a skirt (sarcasm obviously) Second- I believe the outcomes SHOULD be different...because the ball is ONLY BEING SPOTTED DUE TO THE OFFENSE SCORING A TOUCHDOWN. It isn't a play like any other. It is like the "bonus balls" you get to roll in bowling if you strike or spare in the 10th frame. Yes, but that's only to make the situation the same regarding scoring as it would've been in the 8th frame. What excuse is there in football for anyone's getting a bonus ball? Like I have said. I like the symmetry. 3 points for a kick, 6 points for making it all the way down and punching it in, with the bonus opportunity to make it 7 or 8. Just my preference.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 13, 2021 19:28:47 GMT -6
But it isn't a play just like every other. It is a singular untimed play in which the offense even gets to choose aspects of where the ball is spotted that was created because the offense scored. Yes but once the ball is spotted, everything else falls into play EXCEPT the defense has an extra disadvantage of not being able to capitalize on an offensive turnover other than 'the try is no good'. Think of it this way. You have 2 consecutive plays from the +3 yard line. On both plays the offense runs the same exact play, but the defensive response/outcomes are different. SITUATION 1:Play #1 (the TD) the offense throws a quick screen pass to the flat, WR catches the ball, the blockers execute their assignments, the defenders fail to stop the play, and the WR scores a TD. Play #2 (the PAT) the offense throws a quick screen pass to the flat, the CB reads and breaks on the throw jumps the screen and races 97 yards the other way for....... a conditioning exercise: PAT no good. SITUATION 2:Play #1 (the TD) the offense throws a quick screen pass to the flat, the CB reads and breaks on the throw jumps the screen and races 97 yards the other way for....... 6 points. Play #2: Now the PAT is from a whole different team/perspective/objective. First, you should be ashamed that in the example you are talking about quick screens from the 3. Run the ball or wear a skirt (sarcasm obviously) Second- I believe the outcomes SHOULD be different...because the ball is ONLY BEING SPOTTED DUE TO THE OFFENSE SCORING A TOUCHDOWN. It isn't a play like any other. It is like the "bonus balls" you get to roll in bowling if you strike or spare in the 10th frame.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 8, 2021 19:18:43 GMT -6
Yeah, I get that, but on the flip side a 10 yard penalty from LOS (and repeat the down) vs a 7-10 yard loss and loss of down (sack). Doesn't seem like any type of punishment for offense. Much better to just hold than it is give up the sack. Not much incentive to not hold all the time and hope to get away with it. Disagree. 1st and 20 is plenty incentive to not hold. 1st and 27 is just to punitive. I understand what you are saying, but that is after the fact thinking. You get sacked, man, we should have held. Just because you hold, does not mean that you would have given up a sack for sure anyways. Another example is the wing t on buck sweep. Pulling lead guard gets called for holding (of course he really didn't - dang ref - ha). Let's say he is 4 yards in the backfield. It is now 1st and 24. If he doesn't even touch the guy, the hb most likely could have cut up for a 1 yard gain anyways. so 2nd and 9 vs 1st and 24. 2nd and 9 - fine in the wing t. 1st and 24, you aren't converting unless you are just better or get lucky. I would say that 1st and 20 is a lot better than 2nd and 17. Would be interested in how many uncalled holding penalties are the cause of an "explosive" play for the offense. I understand your point as well. I would be interested in seeing a breakdown of the occurrences of each, as well as # of missed holding calls resulting in explosive plays.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 7, 2021 18:13:17 GMT -6
College Hashes Can throw ball away outside the box - college and NFL rule minimum of 6 refs Loss of down with ineligible downfield I would have changed the cutting rule to immediate cutting in the box, but that is a new rule. Offensive holding is 10 from LOS or downfield. Maybe eliminate kickoff Kickers can't advance a blocked punt or fg If a ball is touched beyond the neutral zone by the returners and is recovered by the kickers (punt or fg), it has to get past the first down marker for the kickers to get a first down. Otherwise, it is still the returners ball. 4th and 30 and you kick a crappy punt that accidentally hits a returner 10 yards down field. Returners still get the ball. Overtime from the 25. Much better than the 10 in high school. I would move the college ot back to the 40 or 50. Offensive Holding being a 10 yd penalty from the LOS when it's committed in the backfield is the one I was going to add to the list. I've seen too many ticky-tack calls behind the play take us from 3rd & 7 to 2nd & 25. It's an absolute drive killer. Yeah, I get that, but on the flip side a 10 yard penalty from LOS (and repeat the down) vs a 7-10 yard loss and loss of down (sack). Doesn't seem like any type of punishment for offense. Much better to just hold than it is give up the sack. Not much incentive to not hold all the time and hope to get away with it.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 5, 2021 16:26:53 GMT -6
Thought this was interesting: Will be honest, from reading the title on the video thumbnail, I thought this was going to be some type of "expert villiage" how to play OL thing. Instead, wow..what a great tease of something we won't get to experience. That looks like a great clinic.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 5, 2021 11:42:10 GMT -6
So- what are their grades early on ? Are their grades better late in the game? Their grades do improve later in the game. . Interesting- I am curious why things like alignment assignment pad level hustle hand placement footwork etc. start out poorly in the beginning and yet meet your expectations at the end
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