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Post by morris on Jul 10, 2020 13:03:40 GMT -6
As of today, New Jersey Is pushing the start of games back to Oct. 2, ending Thanksgiving weekend, with no championship playoff "post-season." Teams may hold "summer workouts" ... highly restricted, basically conditioning and conditioning through football-related drills without balls ... from July 16 to Aug. 28. Aug. 29-Sept. 13 will be a hiatus period, with virtual meetings only. as schools re-open. Regular practice to begin Sept. 14. Essentially, they're looking to get kids back to school, and see how that works, before injecting football back into the picture. Could be a lot worse ... and will be, if the numbers spike again with the start of school. Like a few guys have said on here, do your best for the kids, then hope for the best. If everything goes as planned for you guys how many games would you get to play?
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Post by morris on Jul 1, 2020 17:38:07 GMT -6
In the TN plans when it says regions does that mean geographical or are regions part of the classification system?
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Post by morris on Jun 23, 2020 12:24:44 GMT -6
What happens if some schools go all virtual and some go since in many places the choice has been handed over to the district? Do the ones that go to school get to play and those that don’t stay home? This scenario I know could be a very real one for KY and I would guess other states as well.
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Post by morris on Jun 11, 2020 18:35:34 GMT -6
Heh...if ever there's transmission of viral diseases by a football, it's going to be within a game, not from one game to another. Like so much in this pandemic (and so much in society generally about a million other things), it's for the appearance of doing something that's actually useless. If you really thought there was a chance of footballs acting as fomites, you'd want to rotate them each play and have someone disinfecting them on the sideline. But that's too much, so they're going to make you disinfect them uselessly between games, by which time the virus is dead or gone anyway. Bob he is talking about practice not during or between games.
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Post by morris on Jun 6, 2020 7:02:17 GMT -6
I believe I’ve heard Holler and others talk about Carl Deitz and Triphasic Training as kind of the model of lifting they prefer. I would also think the 1x20 approach would fit. You see discussions all the time and the relationship between strength and speed.
Is FTC the best method or the best method for your (your being general here) that’s up to you. Like many have said a lot of us already do many of the ideas. I see it like a lot of other programs with strength and conditioning. There are a bunch of methods out there that will get you very good results as long as you or your players don’t do anything stupid.
One thing that was mentioned in a clinic they did recently was about timing the kids on Mondays. They also used the information to monitor their players. So if a kid comes in and is running slower than normal they take it as the kid needs more time to recover during the week to be ready on Friday. I think a lot of us use the eye test for stuff like that and some guys don’t even look/think about it.
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Post by morris on Jun 5, 2020 20:54:30 GMT -6
I know a lot of FTC guys are big on hex bar deadlift and similar stuff with a hex bar. They aren’t big squat guys. They appear to be more into jumps and things of that nature for the lower body. The upper body they don’t appear to care what you do. I don’t feel like they talk much about lifting past don’t hurt the next day approach.
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Post by morris on Jun 5, 2020 20:00:06 GMT -6
Before I resigned as Head Coach, I did a ton of research on this and actually had practice plans to go with it. However, you have to make room for modifications in there. We were a small school with 23-25 on varsity roster which is alot of why we went to it. We didnt have big kids so we felt we might as well train for speed. But it lacked a strength compeonent. Like anything it has its pros and cons. Not a big Tony Holler fan but Dan Casey, Brad Dixon, and a couple of coaches on here were extremely helpful and made it more "realistic" to adapt for me. Feed the Cats sponsored by Carol Baskins Why do you feel it lacks a strength component? I’m asking because of how much research you’ve done and to make sure I understand.
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Post by morris on Jun 5, 2020 19:56:57 GMT -6
It’s not meant to shock. I believe it is to symbolize both police brutality and against racism. But if everyone knows it's going to happen, doesn't it lose its communicative value? Wouldn't it make more sense if it were done by surprise, and then there'd be a buzz around the field as people asked, "What was that about?" while the few who were in the know and keeping the secret until then explained it to them? Otherwise it's like the national anthem. Playing it is so routine, nobody thinks about it. But when people started kneeling for it, that created a buzz for a while. Then once everybody knew about it, it became just as routine and meaningless as the music itself. The NBA teams taking a 24 sec violation to remember Kobe wasn’t for shock and held communicative value. I get what you’re saying but I don’t think things have to be done for shock value to convey a message.
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Post by morris on Jun 5, 2020 14:17:28 GMT -6
Saying it’s punitive I think is a bit of a stretch. Saying there might be a more efficient way might be (I don’t know) more accurate. When we’ve used the sled and drive it we’ve gone about 6-8 sec and rotate. Depending on how many guys you have it will workout to be about the same amount of rest as going uptempo. Unless you bust a big run a play or if it’s a pass of some type the play would run around 6-8 sec range.
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Post by morris on Jun 5, 2020 14:11:19 GMT -6
It’s not meant to shock. I believe it is to symbolize both police brutality and against racism.
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Post by morris on Jun 5, 2020 6:04:52 GMT -6
How many times are you running 15 yards, much less 40? I would think agility, accelerating, understanding assignment would be much better in the way what actually happens on the field. How often are you going to bench press 175 or 200? How often are you going to squat (fill in whatever numbers)? We do those things to help get our players stronger and to protect their bodies. So throughout a game depending on your position and style of play all of those help our players perform. It’s the same thing with the sprints. Sprints are a tool to get faster. You’re not doing a bunch of sprints or spending practice just doing that and going home. Some teams still do this but I feel a lot of teams don’t. They run gassers at the end of practice or 110s or other things like that to get their guys “conditioned” or to make them physical/mental tough. The FTC approach doesn’t do that. I think you have to look at sprint days a few different ways. One you’re going to do a few sprints to get to max velocity. It’s just a technique to get faster over time. You are going to do some high intensity things for up to 6 secs or so. That can be team, goal line or whatever where it is full go balls to the wall. You won’t spend the whole practice doing it but that’s the focus. Just make sure whatever you do you don’t hurt the next day’s practice. Non-sprint days you can still do 90% of what have always done. During team or inside run you’re doing it against bags. You still can work on speed, agility, quickness stuff and go live some in your Indy periods. You can still expect your RB to hit the hole full speed, run quick game and all of that. You’re just not really doing things where players are hitting max velocity or going high intensity. No one is going to hit max velocity sprinting 10 yards and running plays on air or against bags isn’t going to get to high intensity. Really when you look past how their message comes across and you can figure out what they are really saying (that’s easier said than done) a lot of us already follow the FTC methods in some part or in whole. Basically don’t beat up your team during the week. Don’t run old school conditioning drills/runs. Don’t stack back to back high intensity practices. Do less team and less full contact. Give players time to recover so they can go full speed. Sprint a couple a times a week to help develop speed.
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Post by morris on Jun 3, 2020 8:34:06 GMT -6
I could have some or all of this wrong so take it as you will. There is another thread on here that I think covers some of the stuff you’re asking.
Part of the feed the cats stuff is you do a few sprints instead of a bunch of 40s. Their stance is doing a bunch of 40s makes guys slower because it’s training the wrong energy system. Football is closer to 100m than anything above a 400 (I would argue really anything above a 200).
The cutting back on team and things has less to do with the energy system and more to do with just not beating up your kids. For something to be considered sprint you need to hit max velocity. Running 10 yards you’re not going to hit it.
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Post by morris on May 5, 2020 15:33:46 GMT -6
Until recently football wasn’t part of the uniform rotation. Long story there. Four years ago was the first time. The district gives us I think 500.00 and anything above that the program has to raise.
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Post by morris on May 1, 2020 21:24:22 GMT -6
I think this is a great topic. It might go in a little different direction but I think it all fits.
Coach brought up a good point about reading everyone. Do a skill inventory of all the things you ask a QB to do and then think about his replacement if something happens. Some of the stuff we ask a kid to do is crazy. It’s far more than what he is asked to do in school on a regular basis.
Look at your OL and think about it. Scheme, technique, if turns and all of that is happening in about 3 seconds. Then what happens if they throw something at you that is not typical. We all face good DCs and then we face crazy DCs that do some completely unsound things but can get away with it.
I’ve bounced around different ideas and system but I coached MS a long time before moving up. It let me experiment and also taught me how to simplify. My first year as a HS HC I tried to do WAY too much. If I had simplified we would of performed better. That’s on me.
I relate much better to lower socioeconomic players. My ideal numbers are 60 kids 9-12. It fits who I am and my experience. I grew up loving UNVL and the Fab Five in basketball. Something about the way they played connected with me. I love Paul Westheads approach to basketball and the idea of the triangle offense. I like Coach Pop’s approach to things. I’m realizing that those ideas are where I’m ending up in football.
Briles once said that football isn’t hard. We make it much harder than what it is. My HS HC used to say football is blocking and tackling. Don’t make something easy hard. It reminds me of another coach that is very well known in KY. He retired and did a clinic on his offense and I was blown away by how extremely simple and nonrigid it was. It was very fluid. If a good athlete can’t do something then just have him do what he is good at. Develop the kid but don’t bang your and his head against the wall trying to turn him into something he isn’t. Sorry for the long post/rant.
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Post by morris on May 1, 2020 20:11:04 GMT -6
The more I do this the more I think we over complicate things. I suggest during this time coaches do a skill inventory of all the things we ask kids to do. Even if you think you’re simple you might be surprised at all the things you’re asking a 14-19 year old to do when while he might enjoy football it’s not his life.
Things or programs I try to emulate. Things that are simple and repeatable. Where can I get the best return on investment. We use Wendler’s strength stuff because it is very simple and works. Might not be the best but we could do a lot worse.
Scheme wise we are evolving into as simple as it gets. We all talk about coaching up the details but I think at times we over complicate it. We feel we have to coach up the smallest details to be a good coach. Now yes there is a line there but you need to find it. You can’t get too caught up in the smallest details.
I look at programs that are successful with similar roster sizes and socioeconomic factors. I try to see if we can use/do what they do. I look at other sports. What do they do or why do I connect/relate to them.
I once hear a guy say football coaches want a recipe but they don’t want to learn to cook. I think it’s a valid analogy. Many guys want to have a step by step blueprint instead of learning the little tweaks that come through experience and experimenting.
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Post by morris on Apr 24, 2020 8:33:45 GMT -6
I feel like this question is leading to if we don’t have a season will we get paid. I’m sure it’s crossed some coaches minds. Depending on how things fall we are going to see where our districts fall on some things. Like I don’t know if my district views the weight room and everything else out of season as part of the stipend. We don’t have a separate stipend for running the weight room. We don’t lift during school. It also takes a Board vote to change the stipend. If they paid spring the full amount then it’s going to be even more interesting if they change their mind about the fall.
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Post by morris on Apr 21, 2020 6:38:31 GMT -6
Since you specifically mentioned the possibility of not having a season, how much do you need to fund raise if football is not played in the fall of 2020? I don't mean that in a flippant, sarcastic tone (hopefully nobody took it as such). I mean it a sincere questioning one. If there isn't going to be a football season in 2020, what would necessitate fundraising? What costs and factors am I not considering? For us it will be helmets. I’ll have some that will age out even without the season. If we don’t play then I guess you can by without reconditioning but I’m not sure. I’ve always been told the helmet even if it wasn’t used had to go through the process.
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Post by morris on Apr 11, 2020 11:29:26 GMT -6
I used to in person scout and enjoyed it. I felt like I could get a better feel for things. I’m sure since it’s been awhile I’d have a harder time.
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Post by morris on Apr 10, 2020 12:08:24 GMT -6
What about schools/teams not being able to afford it or their normal package? Unless you’re setting a pretty good reserve or your school helps you all our budgets are going to be tight. We are losing months of our typical fund raising window and companies/people aren’t going to have the cash to put into our programs. I’m sure there were schools that had not sent out their reconditioning when things started to shut down. I’m not even sure currently in KY we can spend school funds.
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Post by morris on Feb 7, 2020 19:15:28 GMT -6
I don’t think there is anyone better in the business than Bill Williams. Bill has other people handle the tech stuff so stuff really isn’t always updated on the website. If you want to or become a FCPGA member I suggest calling him. Even before you become a member call him. I guarantee you’ll hear back within 24 hours. The man will hook you up with what you want/need.
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Post by morris on Jan 19, 2020 15:53:54 GMT -6
First I don’t think you can technically require parents to work concessions. I know some places do it but if someone fights it I’m not sure you could do anything about it.
Our boosters run our entire concessions. Like most places it means 20% of my parents are doing the work. The last few games we paid the cheerleaders to work concessions. So their parents worked it for a flat rate. We make plenty of money off concessions (we aren’t exactly packing the stands) that the money to the cheerleaders wasn’t a big deal.
You might be able to find a group in the school be it band, choir, academic club or something that you could pay to work it.
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Post by morris on Jan 19, 2020 8:29:39 GMT -6
Is it a school sports booster account/program? If so then look at the by laws to see how it is structured. There are laws that govern how boosters can work. I’m not saying that’s the route to take but booster programs don’t work how people think they do. Assuming they want to keep their 501c status.
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Post by morris on Jan 13, 2020 5:33:29 GMT -6
Someone on here years back said they ran defense 7 on 7 without throwing the ball. They were just looking for the defense to cover. They could get through a lot of reps in a short period of time and didn’t waste time chasing dropped passes.
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Post by morris on Jan 10, 2020 5:27:53 GMT -6
We do to a degree but for pre-season we accept that our players will be a bit overtrained during that time to get somewhat more speed endurance for the season. If we didn't speed train off season we certainly won't make speed gains in those 2-3 weeks. So you don’t speed train during the season? This year we are starting to slowly build endurance and speed during the out of season work. The current plan is just to continue to build on that as we come back in July.
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Post by morris on Jan 6, 2020 5:59:37 GMT -6
I've adapted Barry Ross' sprint training philosophy to football to a large degree. I also coach track so we really use even more of his philosophy. Unfortunately as 1 poster said, it looks like we aren't doing too much work. In short, I time their sprints (20's -80's-1 distance each day) and each kid goes until his time drops too much. Not below @ 3%. BUT they rest 5 minutes between each sprint and we rarely get to 10 sprints. 400 runners and higher might need more traditional intervals but they are then working sprint endurance. My sprinters, jumpers, vaulters, 110 hurdlers, throwers and football players rarely do intervals. They do up to 10 sprints until they have dropped too much time, 2-3 times a week and go home. (weights are always 1st) The other days are skill event work. Throwers throw every day. We aren't blazing fast but we clearly get much faster. It does take creativity to adapt it to FB practices. During the season we do need some speed endurance. Off season-pure speed work. Why do endurance for football players during the off-season? I think this is an area where coaches kind of do it by accident. Using circuits outside of the general lifts. Battle ropes and other exercises. The players can build endurance in that way. Tempo runs are another way to not run them to death and build endurance. I am nowhere near an expert on any of this. This is more me throwing things out there to see if I understand the research I’ve done correctly.
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Post by morris on Jan 5, 2020 17:20:40 GMT -6
As with a lot of things the truth is somewhere in the middle. One thing is for sure, you cant go full sprint twice in a row, u need to teach the mechanics of sprinting and the whole goal is to develop the speed reserve and properly energetic system. If you get one Pavel Tatsouline books that he speaks on the subject, you could adapt and find a middle ground also with the weight room work Do you happen to remember which book that is? I believe he has one on tactical strength so I would guess it’s that one. I don’t think it’s in the one I have.
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Post by morris on Jan 4, 2020 17:42:36 GMT -6
I wish I was smart enough to figure that out. I’d love to be able to do that.
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Post by morris on Jan 3, 2020 10:57:47 GMT -6
Honestly on the HS level it would be very basic information. Then applying that information. Like what stops the clock and when does it start? Play clock differences like when you get 40 and when do you get 25. When to run to a sideline and when to get as much as you can and get down. When to hold the ball before taking a knee. When not to back up to catch a punt. How to spike a ball to stop the clock. When you should take a sack and when you shouldn’t (I think they are going to add the rule to allow QBs to throw the ball away this year). How to tell by the officials signal if a player is off the LOS. How the coin toss works.
One I remember from Belichick is when you have a team backed up close to their goal line they’ll use a hard count or something similar. The offensive thinking is if they screw it up it’s only a few inches but if the defense does it’s 5 yards.
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Post by morris on Jan 3, 2020 6:21:59 GMT -6
How is everyone defining in shape for two way players? From the articles and such I believe their stance that my guy might be tired but he’s still faster. I understand the POV but how much truth there is to it I don’t know.
One of the things I wonder about is back in the day did players trick coaches into believing things worked. A lot of us I’m sure ran those sprints at the end of practice. 40-53 yards or whatever. You ended up running 10 or more a lot of times. Maybe the first few practices it was less reps and then they built them up. Well as players everyone knows how fast they are compared to their teammates. So you knew where you should finish. You also always had a player or two that finished those sprints ahead of people that in a race they would lose to. The team ends up running those sprints at about 75-80%. The coaches want all out sprints but the players are in fact running tempo runs. Tempo runs are a great way to build up endurance but not speed. The players kind of truck the staff in believing all these gassers get you into shape to play when the players are doing something different. Now I obviously have no proof of this past coaching and watching players when I was on staffs that ran gassers.
KY was kind of ground zero for the Air Raid stuff. When Mumme got here he talked about how little hitting they did and they didn’t do the typical running. It sounded crazy then but now it’s kind of the norm. HS around here started adopting those ideas pretty early (not that KY is a hot bed of talent).
The crazy 22 thing isn’t the worse idea in the world. One template I’ve seen is the offense gets the QB, RB and a WR that only goes one way. Now of course they can play some defense but the idea is for them to play little to none. The defense gets the next 11 guys that can run and tackle. You take the guys that are too slow to play defense and they just play OL. You still cross train some guys here and there but that’s the starting point. That gives you 8 on offense that pretty much only go one way and another 8 or so on defense that mainly go one way or that are rotated.
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Post by morris on Jan 1, 2020 11:18:45 GMT -6
Our RB Thor the last two years had some nagging leg issues. Mainly because he wouldn’t do what the trainer told him to do. From about halfway through both seasons he practiced very little. We did that to manage his mileage. Come Friday night we ran the hell out of him.
Two years ago we had a kid that played soccer and WR for us. So he would leave our practice and go practice soccer. We kept a close eye on him and limited what he did to keep him fresh.
We’ve been lucky in both cases that the rest of the team didn’t have an issue with it. We make it very clear to our players we want them fresh for Fridays.
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