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Post by davecisar on Apr 29, 2009 13:40:24 GMT -6
I dont know all the NAIA schools, but looks like they got shut out same as 2008.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 29, 2009 12:55:11 GMT -6
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Post by davecisar on Apr 28, 2009 15:53:23 GMT -6
Maybe the Skins were looking for a Billy Kilmer look with Chase Daniel. Short and pauchy and running a 40 slower than Nebraska Offensive Guard Matt Slauson in the last camp probably didnt turn many heads. 2-9 for 1 yard and really struggling with snaps under center in the all star game was about as pretty as his blue mohak and 30 pound spare tire
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Post by davecisar on Apr 28, 2009 15:33:21 GMT -6
Mike
Makes sense, my comment was just that the players were of MUCH migher athleticism levels, being he had the very best player off of every team he chose from
Zero MMP players means TOTAL different equation
Also most ALl Star games limit blitzes etc and make you sit in one defense, I wasnt able to discern if that was the case or not on this one.
Im sure he is a fine coach, not the issue, issue is that all stars age 13-14 is a much different group than age 9 non selects.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 28, 2009 14:37:11 GMT -6
Coach,
Im a huge believer in double teams blocks, my entire offense is based on it, we agree more so than not.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 28, 2009 12:17:59 GMT -6
What happened to me at a youth clinic this year: The speaker seemed to be a very articulate, well educated, well meaning person who knew the game well. He played Division I football and had a fairly well organized presentation, he had credibility. His topic was the spread passing game for youth football. His premise was that anyone could run a spread passing game down to 9 years old and be successful with it, all it took was a commitment and lots of practice. He was preachin it and the first time 9 year old head coach sitting in front of me was nodding his “amens” and buying it hook line and sinker. The presenter demonstrated some well thought out fundamentals for youth quarterbacks and even had some nice film of an impressive 10 year old passer. The coach did admit that he had coached this player since he was 7 years old including extensive individual off site training in the off-season. Now I don’t know about your teams, but I just don’t have year round access to my players or the time to individually coach my kids aggressively year-round. Here’s Where it Gets Tricky, The presenter also showed extensive team film clips that not only showed some very well executed spread passing plays, but some very nice zone blocking runs as well. The unusual thing about these clips were that every player had a different colored helmet on. When I politely asked him why the helmets were different colored, he said because this was an all-star team and each player used his own teams helmet. They were also clips of 13-14 year olds. Come to find out, the players on this all- star team had been chosen from a cast of thousands. He didn’t have any minimum play players to find playing time for, he had the very best player from 40+ teams. Imagine what you could do if YOU had the best player from every team in your area. Or imagine if you could clone your best player and make 40 more of him. What could you run then? What 13-14 year olds can do is also a bit different than what 9 year old rookies can do Not only does the average youth coach have to find some playing time for every player on our teams, but we probably have to start several kids on our offensive line that would best be described as minimum play players. In zone blocking one of the key premises is for your offensive linemen to get movement on a double team, come off the double team and block the near linebacker in space. Now I don’t know about your league, but in the 6 that I’ve coached in the other teams best, fastest and most athletic kids are playing linebacker. In zone blocking my minimum play player ( least athletic player on the team) offensive lineman is going to block the other teams best player, in space, on the move after getting movement on a double team? Really, in real life, not in an imaginary well intentioned parallel universe? Not on your typical non-select youth football team on planet earth. Do we have kids that can make that block? Sure, but not very many that can do it consistently and zero of my even most aggressively coached minimum play players. All-star teams selected from casts of thousands are not the example most of youth coaches can learn from. I’ve only coached “select” football one year, in 2003, it is a different animal, but even then we only chose from about 150 kids, not thousands. Let me say I don’t think this coach is evil or meant to intentionally misguide coaches into doing something that had little chance of succeeding, he just doesn’t clearly understand the boat most of us are in. I’m a big believer in the pass, my teams have often led the league in passing touchdowns. Heck my age 7-9 team threw for 11 touchdowns last season in just 9 games. What I’m saying is it is extremely rare for non-select youth teams to move the ball consistently using zone blocking and spread passing without a “freak” grouping of players. JMO what do I know
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Post by davecisar on Apr 28, 2009 6:29:09 GMT -6
Good is the enemy of great- Collins
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 14:39:29 GMT -6
My Nephews team in Nebraska a few years back: Millard North Class A ( largest class) 2300 students 250 or so football players 9-12 105 playing frosh football ( 2 teams) 110 Suited on Varsity
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 13:38:00 GMT -6
Ive read the book also I dont think its premise is you change for changes sake, change just to be different every few years. Of course if you feel that is your strength that you are better than anyone else at doing that and that skill is a key component of winning, go for it. Do those that have had long term success in football coaching, followed that template? My guess is those losing consistently have not clue what a hedgehog is or have chosen one very poorly. How can you be the worlds best X is you are changing X every year or two? Im with you all the way on brutal facts and lunacy, but many times my guess is it may be less about scheme and more about other coaching skills like: Setting Priorities Communication skills Commitment/Effort Management/delegation skills Teaching skills Decision making skills Technique etc etc Maybe not always a scheme thing problem Maybe sometimes a combination of things My guess is a guy Like Urban Meyer or Mike Leach would be great coaches no matter the system they decided on implementing although Leach probably would only have a passion for it if it was some kind of oddball pirate thing
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 11:00:28 GMT -6
What? You dont have the kids running your offense and defense since the 3rd grade?
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 10:58:30 GMT -6
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 10:10:42 GMT -6
Daniels lack of NFL success may have more to do with the fact his 40 time was slower than most of the offensive linemen taken in the draft and the aesthetics of him probably needing to drop 25-30 lbs off of his less than 6 foot frame.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 9:51:41 GMT -6
Money doesnt solve every problem
Ive coached Inner city and yes a lot of it is disasterous but IMHO very little of why it is disasterous has to do with money. Less than 10% of problem.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 9:44:51 GMT -6
No. You know...here's what I don't get. You say "rock solid academics"...alright...you know that's everyone's selling point or excuse. But those kids do not hit college campuses at a higher place in life than say a public HS kid. That private school kid is going to go to school and sit in the same core classes as the public school kid. If the private kid took some AP classes he may be able to test out of certain subjects...and so will the public school kid. We have this argument all the time here at school. You got all these egg heads saying the kids should try to take AP Calculus if they are planning to go to college. Yea...really? I graduated HS having taken algebra, geometry, algebra 2, pre-calc. First year of college - Calculus. My brother graduated HS salutatorian, took AP Calculus, did well on his AP calc exam...first year of collge - Calculus. Whether the private schools want to admit it or not, their is a maximum height their hands can reach as far as academics go. So no, I don't see how it would be wrong to recruit a kid to stay. If you ask me I think private schools are one of the biggest scams in this country. I started an inner-city program that was very near a local HS THis HS had very poor academics, was fairly dangerous and did not have a student body that valued academics for the most part This city had open enrollment A private Jesuit school located about 10 miles away would often offer scholarships to a number of our best neighborhood players. The Jesuit school sent over 90% of their kids to college, was very safe and their student body valued academics. Parents would often come to me and ask me if they should accept these full rides or attend the local school ( Im an alum of the local PS) Keeping the kids best interest at heart I always told them to take the scholly. Every one of the kids thrived in this school that really challenged them, and they no longer had to fear for their safety or feared being picked on or ostracized for achieving like they had when they were in the neighborhood school. ( crawdad in the boiling pot syndrome) Not only was the quality of the education better, the environment was better and the competition made them better. Every place is different, that's the way it was there.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 9:05:49 GMT -6
khalfie - with that post, you sound like a Jim Collins disciple. Im not sure Jim Collins "Hedgehog" principle is in line with that entire line of thinking of just being different to be different.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 27, 2009 6:11:42 GMT -6
My comment had to do with much more than the "school" part of college The peer interactions, the peer relationships, the self discipline required, the academic setting, working with outstanding well motivated instructors ( most classes) and motivated students ( most cases) learning different points of view in a setting that encourages free thought and rigorous debate/research etc College is much more than the actual classes was my point
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Post by davecisar on Apr 26, 2009 6:28:19 GMT -6
Doug,
Thanks, appreciated
Doug knows his stuff and was able to share it with the group and a nice little crowd after
I plan on using at least 2 of his ideas this coming season, thanks friend.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 25, 2009 7:28:30 GMT -6
Awesome
Who is the original author, anyone know?
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Post by davecisar on Apr 24, 2009 3:23:01 GMT -6
IMHO there is value in the college experience for all that attend The relationships and "growing up" in an environment of like aged and level of maurity peers is important Tons of $$$ and on the road with adults when your'e still a kid is a recipe for disaster It's a free country I guess 17 and doing this all, whats next, 16, 15? Not so far fetched if the logic still holds He wont be able to add or subtract or know any of the countries he's playing in, but I guess he can pay someone to do that for him But cetainly not any of those following in his footsteps, they wont have an education.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 23, 2009 19:39:34 GMT -6
The great hockey kids here play in the best Juniors League in the country and they are all attending HS or college and living with local families.
From there they either get taken by the NHL or a college scholarship. 90+% end up going to college.
In Nebraska all the best HS players play HS volleyball because the coaching here is very good and then the best ones play select club ball offseason and travel the country.
Guess it depends on where you live BUT the local Junior Hockey team is full of kids from Minnesota, Ohio, Wisconsin, MI etc
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Post by davecisar on Apr 23, 2009 15:54:37 GMT -6
Yes, Ive been told very very basic stuff, great execution and kids that are "believers" They like to and run off-tackle very well, who woulda thunk Will find out more when we talk in Jupiter in June.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 23, 2009 12:18:53 GMT -6
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Post by davecisar on Apr 23, 2009 6:07:11 GMT -6
Thanks for the perspective
After getting outscored 52- 716 before he got there and going 1-30 , you would think most players and parents wouldnt have touched a school like that with a 50 foot pole. Even with the prospect of playing time, especially todays kids and parents.
I know about their QB, small and fairly slow, no way he's taller than 5'9". But I know nothing of the rest of the kids.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 22, 2009 21:13:55 GMT -6
OJW
You obviously are closer to the situation than any of us
The first year he got there they went from 1 win to 10 Did all those good players show up and play as 9th graders in his first year there?
Im not trying to be smart, just wondering how he did it.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 22, 2009 20:16:25 GMT -6
I had dinner with one of his assistants about 2 weeks ago after my Orlando clinic.
Amazing worst to first story.
He is a very successful businessman, doesnt teach there He got the job because no one else wanted it, was offered to 2 guys before him that turned it down. 1 Win in 3 years before he got there, yes 1-30 or something like that.
BTW: They were all Pop Warner coaches at JC After their first meeting at a clinic with a bunch of other HS coaches, my friend asked Bill in the car on the way home: "Did you know what any of those guys were talking about?" Bill, "Not a word, dont worry about it"
Im interviewing him when I go to Jupiter in June to do their Pop Warner clinic, the run SW and were a whisper away from winning the National Championship - 14-1. Great guys I did a clinic for them last year in Jupiter.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 22, 2009 12:58:11 GMT -6
Our kids and player agents ( aka parents) favorite drill
Want to feel real sore the next day? Choose up teams and make sure you go for it vs another coach.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 21, 2009 13:16:27 GMT -6
Long towel rolled up tight the long way Taped on both ends Use this as a very safe "rope" 2 players square off, each holding rope at opposing ends 1 cone away from each player 5 yards behind They try and drag their opponent to their cone
I just call it the towel game and our kids love it THe NFL guys use an expensive thing called the Tug- same deal, more $$$
Make it interesting? Divide into teams, losing team does 10 pushups or we prefer gambling, kids line up behind player they think will win, all the losers run a very fast 20 sprint and back
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Post by davecisar on Apr 21, 2009 11:16:02 GMT -6
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Gangs
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Post by davecisar on Apr 21, 2009 5:54:18 GMT -6
It all starts with no dad in the house, that is the #1 cause of all this, Coach Osborne makes a very strong empirical case for this in his book "Faith in the Game"
I started a free youth program for at risk inner city kids, have seen it all
3 of my former players have been murdered. 1 observer was shot and killed while watching our practice less than 20 yards away.
All of the kids that were killed had no father in the house and chose a path most of our kids didnt. We did weekly grade checks and awards, nearly all of our top performers were from the tiny group of 2 parent families we had.
Our society doesnt value committed marriage relationships or for the most part fathers. They feel dads are optional or even baggage.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 20, 2009 16:16:40 GMT -6
For those of you close by:
Im putting on a Free Youth Coaches Clinic in Lincoln on Saturday May 16th from 9-1
It will be in the North Memorial Stadium entrance ( right behind the Tom Osborne Statue), coaches room ( Holds 175) and the indoor Hawks Indoor Practice field.
We have 8 guest speakers including some nationally renouned speed coaches as well as a bevy of HS and ex Huskers who know youth football.
More details later this week on my web site
Topics for sure: Speed Development Passing Game Practice Organization Character Development Parent and Team Management Offensive Line Fundamentals and Advanced Team Defense Recievers Workshop
Wear red!
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