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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 17:17:35 GMT -6
so Jameslightfootball.com for about 30 minutes had a great SMU spring playbook and route decisions and offensive line play manuals. AWESOME stuff. alot of us may or may not have downloaded them and talked about it on another board.
I got called into my HR Dept - because "an associate of June Jones" called my work, and said that i was posting illegal information online and something "must be done" about that.
now, this information that i might have, was not stolen, nor does it have a copyright notice. Luckily, my HR said that it doesnt concern them and that they were just making me aware.
but someone honestly tried to get me fired for having some information on June Jones's offense. I am contacting Coach Jones by email shortly to see what he thinks of this....
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Post by morris on Dec 10, 2015 17:23:14 GMT -6
That sounds like a Jenkins thing. That's crazy. The funny thing is I just read some stuff that someone posted about him. How he breaks down the secondary into 5 looks. Shoot on one side and concept on another. He some how got ahold of Jones's clinic tapes he used while at Hawaii
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Post by jmg999 on Dec 10, 2015 17:44:52 GMT -6
I was just reading someplace that Jones and Mumme, in particular, were very secretive about what they were doing for quite a long time, and this sprouted from the mindset Edwards and Scovil had, when they were at BYU. I don't know the legitimacy of this, but that's what the article said that I was reading.
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Post by TheFOotballCoach on Dec 10, 2015 18:01:24 GMT -6
so Jameslightfootball.com for about 30 minutes had a great SMU spring playbook and route decisions and offensive line play manuals. AWESOME stuff. alot of us may or may not have downloaded them and talked about it on another board. I got called into my HR Dept - because "an associate of June Jones" called my work, and said that i was posting illegal information online and something "must be done" about that. now, this information that i might have, was not stolen, nor does it have a copyright notice. Luckily, my HR said that it doesnt concern them and that they were just making me aware. but someone honestly tried to get me fired for having some information on June Jones's offense. I am contacting Coach Jones by email shortly to see what he thinks of this.... Where could I see a copy of this? I'd be interested in checking it out. |
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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 18:02:12 GMT -6
so Jameslightfootball.com for about 30 minutes had a great SMU spring playbook and route decisions and offensive line play manuals. AWESOME stuff. alot of us may or may not have downloaded them and talked about it on another board. I got called into my HR Dept - because "an associate of June Jones" called my work, and said that i was posting illegal information online and something "must be done" about that. now, this information that i might have, was not stolen, nor does it have a copyright notice. Luckily, my HR said that it doesnt concern them and that they were just making me aware. but someone honestly tried to get me fired for having some information on June Jones's offense. I am contacting Coach Jones by email shortly to see what he thinks of this.... Where could I see a copy of this? I'd be interested in checking it out. HAHAHAHAHA - sorry. no. not coming from me. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Dec 10, 2015 18:02:46 GMT -6
I still think it's ridiculous the stuff that Light has gone through, including Auburn last year. He's a personal friend and has no bad intent. Just loves the game and breaking down what people do. There is no copyright on this crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 18:02:52 GMT -6
so Jameslightfootball.com for about 30 minutes had a great SMU spring playbook and route decisions and offensive line play manuals. AWESOME stuff. alot of us may or may not have downloaded them and talked about it on another board. I got called into my HR Dept - because "an associate of June Jones" called my work, and said that i was posting illegal information online and something "must be done" about that. now, this information that i might have, was not stolen, nor does it have a copyright notice. Luckily, my HR said that it doesnt concern them and that they were just making me aware. but someone honestly tried to get me fired for having some information on June Jones's offense. I am contacting Coach Jones by email shortly to see what he thinks of this.... It still amazes that people treat this stuff like who shot kennedy. At least I can understand why they wont release who shot kennedy. But football is of that magnitude. |
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Post by morris on Dec 10, 2015 18:08:48 GMT -6
It's the pass protection. That's half way a joke. I had always heard Jones would never talk about protection. The other fable is that someone who worked in the shoot got let go and spread the protection secretes around. What is interesting is you can find all kinds of USFL and WFL stuff out there along with the older college stuff. What you can't find is Oilers, Falcons, or Lions stuff.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Dec 10, 2015 18:21:59 GMT -6
This is one of the weirder threads I've read in a while.
Please let us know how this works out.
There are several "groups" that are very careful about their stuff.
I know the TCU coaches are very secretive and are very careful about letting anything about their defense get out. There is enough old TCU stuff out there that you can't even learn it all. So, not sure what the problem is.
But, I'm not getting paid $MILLIONS to win football games either, if I was, who knows what I'd do to keep that big check acomin'
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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 18:26:27 GMT -6
This is one of the weirder threads I've read in a while. Please let us know how this works out. There are several "groups" that are very careful about their stuff. I know the TCU coaches are very secretive and are very careful about letting anything about their defense get out. There is enough old TCU stuff out there that you can't even learn it all. So, not sure what the problem is. But, I'm not getting paid $MILLIONS to win football games either, if I was, who knows what I'd do to keep that big check acomin' well so far, nothing. my company said "its not our problem until the cops show up". but the phone call was recorded, and if i can figure out who did this, believe me, my lawyer will be all over it. the funny thing is, June Jones and Jenkins arnt even coaches anymore. |
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Post by paketterman on Dec 10, 2015 18:38:40 GMT -6
so Jameslightfootball.com for about 30 minutes had a great SMU spring playbook and route decisions and offensive line play manuals. AWESOME stuff. alot of us may or may not have downloaded them and talked about it on another board. I got called into my HR Dept - because "an associate of June Jones" called my work, and said that i was posting illegal information online and something "must be done" about that. now, this information that i might have, was not stolen, nor does it have a copyright notice. Luckily, my HR said that it doesnt concern them and that they were just making me aware. but someone honestly tried to get me fired for having some information on June Jones's offense. I am contacting Coach Jones by email shortly to see what he thinks of this.... Crap, i downloaded it as well. Uh oh. Now i got the slot-t AND the RNS guys after me.. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 18:40:52 GMT -6
the good news is eventually it will leak itself out....the key though is e EVENTUALLY...probably after communist take over.
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Dec 10, 2015 18:49:20 GMT -6
I love this kind of stuff.... Now who can send me a copy?  |
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Post by Defcord on Dec 10, 2015 18:50:10 GMT -6
Douche move if they call your school and not you directly to ask. All of these guys say "we are here to help, and we stole everything anyway........"
June Jones -1 (or more)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:04:00 GMT -6
I love this kind of stuff.... Now who can send me a copy? I can keep a secret as well. cough cough. |
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Post by coachphillip on Dec 10, 2015 19:05:32 GMT -6
What site did you guys talk about the stuff on?
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Post by paketterman on Dec 10, 2015 19:06:18 GMT -6
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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 19:06:56 GMT -6
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Dec 10, 2015 19:17:01 GMT -6
Couldn't u get some of the rns Lions oilers falcon stuff
From the old tecmo super bowl video game or the old madden games?
Aren't those suppose to pretty much be the actual playbooks? Or close....
And there is lots of mouse Davis videos out on the rns
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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 19:19:12 GMT -6
Couldn't u get some of the rns Lions oilers falcon stuff From the old tecmo super bowl video game or the old madden games? Aren't those suppose to pretty much be the actual playbooks? Or close.... And there is lots of mouse Davis videos out on the rns the big 3: Tiger Mouse Red had no issue sharing information on the shoot...its that second generation who seem to think everything they do is GOLD and must work so therefore they keep it secret.... (meanwhile their teams go 5-5, and they end up jobless) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:21:59 GMT -6
Couldn't u get some of the rns Lions oilers falcon stuff From the old tecmo super bowl video game or the old madden games? Aren't those suppose to pretty much be the actual playbooks? Or close.... And there is lots of mouse Davis videos out on the rns Those videos leave a whole lot on the table. What I mean by that, and this is true with zone tapes out their by gibbs, is that they give you little bits of juicy x and o's and then leave you hanging. |
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Post by brophy on Dec 10, 2015 20:51:56 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Dec 10, 2015 20:53:50 GMT -6
I gotta tell you, I look at this the other way. This is somebody else's stuff and if they don't want it up that's their decision. You want people posting your stuff?
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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 21:08:41 GMT -6
I gotta tell you, I look at this the other way. This is somebody else's stuff and if they don't want it up that's their decision. You want people posting your stuff? if thats the case, why wouldnt you attach a copyright notice to the document like all digital books do. in the US, no copyright notice is the same as no copyright - which in my state, means public information. thats not the case for all states. but it is here... |
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Post by fantom on Dec 10, 2015 21:10:28 GMT -6
I gotta tell you, I look at this the other way. This is somebody else's stuff and if they don't want it up that's their decision. You want people posting your stuff? if thats the case, why wouldnt you attach a copyright notice to the document like all digital books do. in the US, no copyright notice is the same as no copyright - which in my state, means public information. thats not the case for all states. but it is here... How'd you get it? |
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Post by 33coach on Dec 10, 2015 21:21:21 GMT -6
if thats the case, why wouldnt you attach a copyright notice to the document like all digital books do. in the US, no copyright notice is the same as no copyright - which in my state, means public information. thats not the case for all states. but it is here... How'd you get it? jameslightfootball.com - it was on there last night. |
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Post by jmg999 on Dec 10, 2015 21:34:48 GMT -6
I would seriously doubt that these types of playbooks can be copyrighted. Copyright is a form of protection for intellectual property, and since playbooks are (generally speaking) derivative of other playbooks, it's unlikely that this could be protected under the law. It's possible that the first playbooks that described plays that had never before been seen could be copyrighted, but given that this information was (mostly) freely shared by its inventors, again, it's unlikely that a copyright would have applied. If it were copyrighted, anyone using a play from that playbook would have to possess the written consent of the intellectual property owner. What you might be able to apply, in this instance, is a creative commons license, but that would only protect the work product in limited ways. It would not, however, prevent others from redistributing it. Then again, the most restrictive creative commons license does prevent commercial use, so that might lead back to the same reasoning that one couldn't copyright a playbook.
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Post by fantom on Dec 10, 2015 21:36:19 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of sharing somebody else's stuff if they don't want it shared. Copyrighted or not, it's wrong. I wouldn't want it done to me and I won't do it to them.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Dec 10, 2015 22:19:09 GMT -6
Couldn't u get some of the rns Lions oilers falcon stuff From the old tecmo super bowl video game or the old madden games? Aren't those suppose to pretty much be the actual playbooks? Or close.... And there is lots of mouse Davis videos out on the rns Those videos leave a whole lot on the table. What I mean by that, and this is true with zone tapes out their by gibbs, is that they give you little bits of juicy x and o's and then leave you hanging. Ok, makes sense,I have never watched any of the mouse videos so I wasn't sure how detailed he got |
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Post by jg78 on Dec 10, 2015 23:24:36 GMT -6
The Warren Commission released it over 50 years ago. His name's Lee Harvey Oswald.
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