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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Nov 18, 2015 10:22:03 GMT -6
For us: HC- 36 DC- 36 OC- 35 OL- 30 RB- 30 WR- 40 K- 70s Others: 21,22,23,30,66
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Post by underdog21 on Nov 18, 2015 11:20:03 GMT -6
HC:36 DC:36 OC:26 OL:45 DBs:23 DL:24
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Post by paketterman on Nov 19, 2015 0:45:57 GMT -6
Six-man football talking here: HC/OC (Me): 22 DC: 24 That's it! Gotta love 6 man! It was me and another coach my first two years. He the HC/DC, me the OC/ST. We're blessed to have 4 coaches this year! Haha
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Nov 22, 2015 23:58:57 GMT -6
Head 34 Rb/ol/de 39 me Dl/ol 35 Wr/? 38 Lb/ol 40 Db/wr 50
That's it, 4a school, 73 man roster 10-12, and 645 enrollment
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Post by coachfrankc on May 20, 2016 6:44:23 GMT -6
HC/DC-41 OC/OL-65 at least ST- late 60s DB- early 60s DB-50 WR- 32 WR (Me)- 23 OL-39 RB- early 60s Freshman Coach- 40
We're on the old side, and unfortuanetly I don't think it'll get younger anytime soon. The kids just don't connect to the old guys
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Post by blb on May 20, 2016 6:45:55 GMT -6
The kids just don't connect to the old guys
How can you tell?
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Post by newhope on May 20, 2016 8:25:27 GMT -6
65, 52, 4 in their 40s, a couple in their early 20s.
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Post by **** on May 20, 2016 9:05:25 GMT -6
HC/OC - 34 DC - 26 (me) OL/DL - 38 WR/DB - 44 TE/OLB - 45
Everywhere I've been, I've always been the youngest on staff. A couple of our graduated seniors from previous years will help out next year but they're basically going to be volunteers.
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Post by coachfrankc on May 24, 2016 6:56:05 GMT -6
The kids just don't connect to the old guys
How can you tell?
Many of the older guys have been coaching for 30+ years. They're not in the school, they're not in the weight room, they don't come to our passing league. and for all of them, they're philosophy is to Win, and that's it. Like the old days. Our kids want to have fun, and our coaches are against the idea that fun can lead to winning. It's why our numbers are so low.
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Post by blb on May 24, 2016 7:05:55 GMT -6
Many of the older guys have been coaching for 30+ years. They're not in the school, they're not in the weight room, they don't come to our passing league. and for all of them, they're philosophy is to Win, and that's it. Like the old days. Our kids want to have fun, and our coaches are against the idea that fun can lead to winning. It's why our numbers are so low.
How do the kids who are playing get along with the coaches when they are there - are they coachable? Do they practice-play hard?
What "fun" is missing?
I wouldn't go to weight room or passing league either if I didn't have to. That wasn't "fun" for me.
Obviously your head coach does not require the "older guys" to be there.
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Post by **** on May 24, 2016 7:49:28 GMT -6
Can't expect a kid to be there if a coach isn't going to show up.
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Post by blb on May 24, 2016 7:58:48 GMT -6
Can't expect a kid to be there if a coach isn't going to show up.
That's a nice theory but not realistic.
I had assistants that were teachers who coached other sports, had to take college courses in Summer to keep their certification, and-or work Summer jobs to help support their young families.
Others were "lay" or "Walk on" coaches who worked day jobs that prevented them from being at Off Season activities. Some of them used their vacation time to be at Pre-Season practices.
Most of them were at Summer Workouts, Off-Season lifting, or 7-on-7s when they could. But it would've been counter-productive to insist much less require they be there.
Kids don't have those kinds of conflicts. So to say that players are going to miss because a coach isn't going to show up is specious.
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Post by Chris Clement on May 24, 2016 12:36:45 GMT -6
I really doubt that there was ever a time where a majority of kids were playing football not wanting to enjoy themselves.
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Post by blb on May 24, 2016 13:50:20 GMT -6
I really doubt that there was ever a time where a majority of kids were playing football not wanting to enjoy themselves.
True.
Hard, purposeful work is fun.
Competition so long as it is on the proverbial "level playing field" is fun.
Kids basically play Football for two reasons:
1. Because it's fun - I believe "enjoyable" is a better word above the youth-Little League levels.
2. For the camaraderie with their friends and coaches.
Football as we all know is a tough game.
To be successful-get the most out of their experience kids have to take pride in doing difficult things well as opposed to just "going through the motions," whether they are the All-Star or "program player."
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Post by dytmook on May 24, 2016 16:51:01 GMT -6
HC 35 OC 31 DC 31 OL 32 OL 27 RB 68 DL 68 LB 38 DL 50 Old guy who walks around coaching everything and nothing at the same time 73 WR 27
I don't see the need for all coaches to be at everything if there is a good reason especially passing leagues. If a DL coach doesn't want to go to 7 v 7 what does it matter? He can't coach pass rush there.
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Post by coachklee on May 24, 2016 17:03:44 GMT -6
32 HC/OC 31 DC/DL/OL (me) 33 LB/RB 40 something OL/DL
JV HC Mid 30s
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Post by coachklee on May 24, 2016 17:07:09 GMT -6
HC/DC-41 OC/OL-65 at least ST- late 60s DB- early 60s DB-50 WR- 32 WR (Me)- 23 OL-39 RB- early 60s Freshman Coach- 40 We're on the old side, and unfortuanetly I don't think it'll get younger anytime soon. The kids just don't connect to the old guys Some of them are getting old enough that you never know how much longer they'll be around...
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Post by **** on May 24, 2016 19:29:43 GMT -6
Can't expect a kid to be there if a coach isn't going to show up.
That's a nice theory but not realistic.
I had assistants that were teachers who coached other sports, had to take college courses in Summer to keep their certification, and-or work Summer jobs to help support their young families.
Others were "lay" or "Walk on" coaches who worked day jobs that prevented them from being at Off Season activities. Some of them used their vacation time to be at Pre-Season practices.
Most of them were at Summer Workouts, Off-Season lifting, or 7-on-7s when they could. But it would've been counter-productive to insist much less require they be there.
Kids don't have those kinds of conflicts. So to say that players are going to miss because a coach isn't going to show up is specious.
So you mean to tell me that if a coach doesn't care to show up, a HS kid will? Now if this is some water bottle filling, set up drills, team manager, team dad coach. I get that. If you're a position coach or higher, you gotta be there. You can't hold a kid accountable if you as a coach aren't.
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Post by fantom on May 24, 2016 19:36:04 GMT -6
That's a nice theory but not realistic.
I had assistants that were teachers who coached other sports, had to take college courses in Summer to keep their certification, and-or work Summer jobs to help support their young families.
Others were "lay" or "Walk on" coaches who worked day jobs that prevented them from being at Off Season activities. Some of them used their vacation time to be at Pre-Season practices.
Most of them were at Summer Workouts, Off-Season lifting, or 7-on-7s when they could. But it would've been counter-productive to insist much less require they be there.
Kids don't have those kinds of conflicts. So to say that players are going to miss because a coach isn't going to show up is specious.
So you mean to tell me that if a coach doesn't care to show up, a HS kid will? Now if this is some water bottle filling, set up drills, team manager, team dad coach. I get that. If you're a position coach or higher, you gotta be there. You can't hold a kid accountable if you as a coach aren't. Why in the world would a line coach be at a 7 on 7? For the record we don't expect linemen to be there either.
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Post by **** on May 24, 2016 19:39:22 GMT -6
So you mean to tell me that if a coach doesn't care to show up, a HS kid will? Now if this is some water bottle filling, set up drills, team manager, team dad coach. I get that. If you're a position coach or higher, you gotta be there. You can't hold a kid accountable if you as a coach aren't. Why in the world would a line coach be at a 7 on 7? For the record we don't expect linemen to be there either. You don't do any kind of OL/DL competitions during 7v7? You just say "hey pretty boys get to go play 7v7 today and all the fattys get to go home"?
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Post by dblwngr on May 24, 2016 19:42:56 GMT -6
HC- 41 DC, OL, DBs (me)- 40 OC, Wr, LBs- mid 50s DLine/Rbs- 35 JV HC- 50ish JV ast- 30
I think myself and Phantom are the only DC/OL/Db guys???
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Post by fantom on May 24, 2016 19:52:20 GMT -6
Why in the world would a line coach be at a 7 on 7? For the record we don't expect linemen to be there either. You don't do any kind of OL/DL competitions during 7v7? You just say "hey pretty boys get to go play 7v7 today and all the fattys get to go home"? Don't have any fatties but the linemen who aren't involved do indeed go home.
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Post by **** on May 24, 2016 20:26:10 GMT -6
You don't do any kind of OL/DL competitions during 7v7? You just say "hey pretty boys get to go play 7v7 today and all the fattys get to go home"? Don't have any fatties but the linemen who aren't involved do indeed go home. Why don't you do anything with those guys?
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Post by fantom on May 24, 2016 20:31:32 GMT -6
Don't have any fatties but the linemen who aren't involved do indeed go home. Why don't you do anything with those guys? Why? I may not love it but 7 on 7 serves a purpose. We don't see how a tug of war or whatever does. We ask enough time and effort from the kids without adding something that we don't consider that useful.
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Post by Stangs13065 on May 24, 2016 20:31:52 GMT -6
For us: HC/OC/RB: 22 DC/DB/WR: 21 OL: 21 DL: 41 QB/Passing Game: 34 (me) Your HC is 22? Assuming that's not a typo, was he just hired right out of college?
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Post by blb on May 25, 2016 5:07:06 GMT -6
That's a nice theory but not realistic.
I had assistants that were teachers who coached other sports, had to take college courses in Summer to keep their certification, and-or work Summer jobs to help support their young families.
Others were "lay" or "Walk on" coaches who worked day jobs that prevented them from being at Off Season activities. Some of them used their vacation time to be at Pre-Season practices.
Most of them were at Summer Workouts, Off-Season lifting, or 7-on-7s when they could. But it would've been counter-productive to insist much less require they be there.
Kids don't have those kinds of conflicts. So to say that players are going to miss because a coach isn't going to show up is specious.
So you mean to tell me that if a coach doesn't care to show up, a HS kid will? Now if this is some water bottle filling, set up drills, team manager, team dad coach. I get that. If you're a position coach or higher, you gotta be there. You can't hold a kid accountable if you as a coach aren't.
Did you even read my post? It isn't a question of "caring," it's a question of Life getting in the way.
I also said most of them showed up when they could.
And I never once heard a kid say "Coach Smith isn't coming to Workout so I'm going to miss."
If I had tried to require that they be at ALL Off-Season activities I might have been coaching the team by myself when practice started.
Football is not as important to others as it is to us head coaches.
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Post by **** on May 25, 2016 9:37:35 GMT -6
Why don't you do anything with those guys? Why? I may not love it but 7 on 7 serves a purpose. We don't see how a tug of war or whatever does. We ask enough time and effort from the kids without adding something that we don't consider that useful. Tug of war is a waste of time. Football drills are not.
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Post by fantom on May 25, 2016 9:56:42 GMT -6
Why? I may not love it but 7 on 7 serves a purpose. We don't see how a tug of war or whatever does. We ask enough time and effort from the kids without adding something that we don't consider that useful. Tug of war is a waste of time. Football drills are not. Why do I need another team to be there to do football drills?
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Post by **** on May 25, 2016 13:17:18 GMT -6
Tug of war is a waste of time. Football drills are not. Why do I need another team to be there to do football drills? You sure don't. Keep doing what you're doing.
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Post by tanavea on May 25, 2016 13:22:01 GMT -6
HC - 60 OC - 51 DC - 50's ST/WR - 47 QB - 22 RB - 22 DB - 22 DL - 22 DL - 22
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