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Post by here4thekids on Jan 22, 2008 20:55:42 GMT -6
I was searching for the thread which described the age of different head coaches in various states. If anyone can help me locate this I would be very appreciative. Also, if anyone knows young coaches throughout the nation please fill free to list them. I am trying to make a document with coaches under the age of 27 or so. Thank you.
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 22, 2008 21:02:17 GMT -6
HC's under the age of 27? Or coaches 27 and under. I'd think there are not many HC's under 27.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 22, 2008 21:12:25 GMT -6
Our rival's head coach is either 27 or 28.
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Post by airraider on Jan 23, 2008 6:19:07 GMT -6
Im 28 and just received my first HC job.
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Post by rideanddecide on Jan 23, 2008 7:32:14 GMT -6
I'm 28. Accepted my HC job when I was 25.
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 23, 2008 9:02:40 GMT -6
I've been coaching over 20 years in the Phx metro area and off the top of my head I cannot think of a single HC who's ever been in his 20's when he accepted a job. Obviously that does not mean it's never happened but it would be highly unusual- particularly for a big school job. I believe many are capable it's just few administrators would take what they believe might be a risk in giving a young hard charger the reins of a program- fair or not I think a younger coach might be a harder sell to boosters and parents.
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Post by williamcrehan on Jan 23, 2008 9:27:43 GMT -6
First HC job at 33 for me.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 23, 2008 10:52:21 GMT -6
I think it all depends on the coaches history and where you are. Around here a younger coach will more likely get hired for a HC HS job if he played college and was a grad-assistant at that college. I don't knwo the number of head coaces here in RI that played college, but I do know it is very very few.
Since I have done the two things mentioned above I feel that I would have an advantage over another coach applying that hasn't played or coached at that level. I'm probably a little over confident but From a X' and O's stand point I could defintily step into a head coaching job. (i'm 26).....However the entire duties of a head coach is much more than x's and o's. These duties I beleive are one of the main reasons most coaches are atleast in their 30's.
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 23, 2008 11:02:51 GMT -6
I think it all depends on the coaches history and where you are. Around here a younger coach will more likely get hired for a HC HS job if he played college and was a grad-assistant at that college. I don't knwo the number of head coaces here in RI that played college, but I do know it is very very few. Since I have done the two things mentioned above I feel that I would have an advantage over another coach applying that hasn't played or coached at that level. I'm probably a little over confident but From a X' and O's stand point I could defintily step into a head coaching job. (i'm 26).....However the entire duties of a head coach is much more than x's and o's. These duties I beleive are one of the main reasons most coaches are atleast in their 30's. That can certainly be the case but having played and even having been a GA in know way says you can coach or administer a program. It does however impress many administrators or folks on a hiring committee. There's a huge difference in I can do this and I can teach this. Or I understand a game plan and I can creat one and install it. The unfortunate thing is there are very deserving young guys out there who don't get a fair shake because of their age. |
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Post by darebelcoach on Jan 23, 2008 11:57:47 GMT -6
Got my first head coaching gig at the age of 28, just turned 30 last week....still learning but it is fun going against some of the older coaches that we play, and when we win, getting some of the looks from them, since I am young and obviously don't know as much as them!!!
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Post by mrfr33z3 on Jan 23, 2008 12:43:13 GMT -6
well I'm at head coach at my alumni Highschool last year.. at the age of 26 so I'm entering my 2nd season. but I also was a three sport athlete and helped to win a state championship my junior year. so I think the Alumni part as well as winning was part of it. considering I was the OC 2 seasons ago.
but being a HC has taught me to be humble in my approach to different things. I've learned that things with kids won't always go as planned. because the way we planned and aligned works or should work but it's not always the scheme its the kids know how or want to. and dealing with the different things from the admin. to the parents will teach you a thing or two.
but being young sometimes can be to our advantage because sometimes the kids tend to relate to younger coaches being that we aren't much older then some seniors. 15-18 to 26 .
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Post by tothehouse on Jan 23, 2008 12:47:36 GMT -6
I know a guy who didn't lose a game for his two varsity seasons as HC and he started at 23. And another guy who won a CA section title at the age of 24. Youngbloods....gettin it done.
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Post by baler22 on Jan 23, 2008 17:59:01 GMT -6
I am a head coach and got my first job at 25 and my second at 27 winning a league title at each program.
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Post by knighter on Jan 23, 2008 19:07:37 GMT -6
I am now 36. Got my first head coaching gig at the age of 24. Spent one year as a a volunteer assistant before that.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 23, 2008 19:27:08 GMT -6
first head coaching job was at 25 -- thought I knew it all... lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 19:37:51 GMT -6
I'm not a HC yet, but I know several fellow coaches my age who have HC jobs. I'm 28.
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 23, 2008 20:13:32 GMT -6
I am now 36. Got my first head coaching gig at the age of 24. Spent one year as a a volunteer assistant before that. Is that a varsity HC position? I cannot even imagine that being possible where I'm located. |
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Post by kylem56 on Jan 23, 2008 20:37:58 GMT -6
The guy I work under is 27. I know of 2 other coaches in the league I played in when I was in high school who got HC jobs at age 23.
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Post by singlewing14 on Jan 23, 2008 21:15:57 GMT -6
I have coached for 19 years in three states and I can count on 1 hand the numer of Varsity head coaches that I coached against that were under the age of 30. This thread has been shocking to say the least. I am not saying that young coaches can't get it done, just didn't know it was so prevelant.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 23, 2008 21:17:25 GMT -6
"Is that a varsity HC position? I cannot even imagine that being possible where I'm located."
Age and experience does not necessarilly mean someone is a good coach.
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 23, 2008 21:28:01 GMT -6
LOL, after one year as a volunteer assistant coach it hardly allows one to have proven their abilities either. And speaking from my experience most jobs would bring in many applicants who have proven theirs. Just completely outside of my own experiences. Hell I coached freshman ball for years and most of those HC were in their 30's and an HC in his early 20's unheard of.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 23, 2008 22:07:14 GMT -6
Proven success is a different story, but there's alot of coaches out there that have coached for a long long time but are lacking in gameday coaching skills.
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Post by clloyd on Jan 23, 2008 22:07:19 GMT -6
HC at 32
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Post by jraybern on Jan 23, 2008 22:56:07 GMT -6
I am currently 24 and finished my first year as a high school varsity head coach. I got the job because the guy before me was an "old timer" (no offense intended anywhere) and they wanted change from an 0-9 season.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 23, 2008 23:12:47 GMT -6
I am currently 24 and finished my first year as a high school varsity head coach. I got the job because the guy before me was an "old timer" (no offense intended anywhere) and they wanted change from an 0-9 season. This actually could be a totally seperate thread and get alot of responses but it goes along with this so I'll put it in here. It is very hard for older coaches (say that coached in the 70's) to comeback and coach today. There are so many new "rules" that coaches need to abide by. Things coaches did back then would get them fired in a heart beat today. I've talked to a former coach that coached at the school i'm at and he says he wouldn't even be able to coach in today's society. His style would get himself out of a job. So here's where i'm getting at....if an older coach that has continued to coach through the decades without changing at all then they will have a very tough time in todays game whether it be modern x's and o's or the etiquett they have to follow as a coach by today's standards. Paul Bryant is one of the best coaches of all time, yet he would be fired in a day if he were to coach today. |
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Post by CVBears on Jan 24, 2008 0:45:06 GMT -6
"Paul Bryant is one of the best coaches of all time, yet he would be fired in a day if he were to coach today."
Really? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he credited with innovating the world of football with the wishbone? What would make you think that he wouldn't continue to grow as a coach? To me, that is the difference between old coaches that end up going 0-10 and great coaches that have been in the business 30+ years successfully.
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Post by coachbw on Jan 24, 2008 1:23:24 GMT -6
I am 25 and a HC. I got the job when I was 23. I thought I was ready, but looking back wasn't even close.
The first head coach I worked for got his job at the age of 25. He won state championship at age 28 and 29. During the first championship season all 9 coaches on staff were under the age of 33. 4 or 5 of us were 18 or 19 and in college.
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Post by phantom on Jan 24, 2008 4:27:04 GMT -6
I am currently 24 and finished my first year as a high school varsity head coach. I got the job because the guy before me was an "old timer" (no offense intended anywhere) and they wanted change from an 0-9 season. This actually could be a totally seperate thread and get alot of responses but it goes along with this so I'll put it in here. It is very hard for older coaches (say that coached in the 70's) to comeback and coach today. There are so many new "rules" that coaches need to abide by. Things coaches did back then would get them fired in a heart beat today. I've talked to a former coach that coached at the school i'm at and he says he wouldn't even be able to coach in today's society. His style would get himself out of a job. So here's where i'm getting at....if an older coach that has continued to coach through the decades without changing at all then they will have a very tough time in todays game whether it be modern x's and o's or the etiquett they have to follow as a coach by today's standards. Paul Bryant is one of the best coaches of all time, yet he would be fired in a day if he were to coach today. When he retired Paul Bryant wasn't the same coach who took those boys to Junction. Good coaches change with the times. Lazy coaches just get older. |
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 24, 2008 9:13:23 GMT -6
"When he retired Paul Bryant wasn't the same coach who took those boys to Junction. Good coaches change with the times. Lazy coaches just get older."
Very well said Phantom. Good coaches like good CEO's are masters of change and innovation-always looking to do something better. It's easy to just go with the flow and do what you've always done but we all know what's easy often is not right or best.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 24, 2008 9:47:22 GMT -6
By bryant being fired I didn't mean because he wouldn't win games, thats not what I meant at all. I meant that if he were a high school coach and was that hard on his players like he was back then, it todays society kids would complain to their parents, the parents would complain to the SI and then he's be fired.
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