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Post by freezeoption on Feb 15, 2015 17:52:09 GMT -6
i'm sure you find avg ages of coachs, afm probably has that, they probably could get you successful coaches names from around the usa, i was 23 for my first hc in football, then 34, and now again here at 46
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 15, 2015 18:06:34 GMT -6
Took over when I was 29. 32 now...
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Post by playsmart on Feb 15, 2015 19:15:02 GMT -6
Just accepted a HC job less than a month ago at a 8 man school with very little success in the past. I am 28 and might be 52 and no hair by the end of the season.
Had our first team meeting on Wednesday and already have had 6 different excuses why they can't make it to our morning strength and conditioning program.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 15, 2015 19:17:38 GMT -6
Just accepted a HC job less than a month ago at a 8 man school with very little success in the past. I am 28 and might be 52 and no hair by the end of the season. Had our first team meeting on Wednesday and already have had 6 different excuses why they can't make it to our morning strength and conditioning program. Most difficult part is changing the culture... Got to find a way to make it the rule and not the exception... Good Luck
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Post by coachdlo on Feb 15, 2015 21:51:47 GMT -6
on a side note.. I feel like im the one bringing *some* of them up from the grave... I'm new to the site and literally started on page 1 and am to 243 haha... I try not to dig em up but some of them are interesting! if this annoys everyone let me know and i'll stop haha
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 16, 2015 13:00:29 GMT -6
Just accepted a HC job less than a month ago at a 8 man school with very little success in the past. I am 28 and might be 52 and no hair by the end of the season. Had our first team meeting on Wednesday and already have had 6 different excuses why they can't make it to our morning strength and conditioning program. When this type of post comes up, I always suggest this : Sit down and SHOW them video evidence of them being physically dominated. As crazy as it sounds, I played for a program with no success, and greatly contributed to that success because I (as a leader) along with the others had NO CLUE what hard work was, nor how much hard work other teams were doing to be successful. Ask them point blank if they realize that their opponents were working at that time, and they would continue to be unsuccessful if they just kept doing the same thing. That said, if they are some legit excuses, you may have to reevaluate your current solution to their problem.
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Post by playsmart on Feb 16, 2015 14:48:26 GMT -6
Just accepted a HC job less than a month ago at a 8 man school with very little success in the past. I am 28 and might be 52 and no hair by the end of the season. Had our first team meeting on Wednesday and already have had 6 different excuses why they can't make it to our morning strength and conditioning program. When this type of post comes up, I always suggest this : Sit down and SHOW them video evidence of them being physically dominated. As crazy as it sounds, I played for a program with no success, and greatly contributed to that success because I (as a leader) along with the others had NO CLUE what hard work was, nor how much hard work other teams were doing to be successful. Ask them point blank if they realize that their opponents were working at that time, and they would continue to be unsuccessful if they just kept doing the same thing. That said, if they are some legit excuses, you may have to reevaluate your current solution to their problem. Those are some good points. As far as showing them being physically dominated, that wouldn't be hard. I had to stop watching film from last year because of crappy football I was watching. I was trying to scout what other teams were doing and keep finding myself getting pissed off because of lofts, arm tackles, blown coverages, fumbles, not firing off the ball, etc. Then I told myself I need to focus on what we are doing first before I can start focusing on that stuff. Just like you mentioned that there are some legit excuses and I would never hold that against an athlete. However changing a culture that is use to losing, use to being lazy, use to being unstructured, use to being undisciplined and used to being selfish, isn't going to be a easy thing to do. Most of the excuses I have heard so far fall into one of those categories. I don't blame the athletes for this culture either. It is what they are use to and what they have lived in for the past 4 or 5 years. From what I gathered about the previous staff, the only expectation they had for the players was to show up on the first day of practice.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 16, 2015 15:02:20 GMT -6
When this type of post comes up, I always suggest this : Sit down and SHOW them video evidence of them being physically dominated. As crazy as it sounds, I played for a program with no success, and greatly contributed to that success because I (as a leader) along with the others had NO CLUE what hard work was, nor how much hard work other teams were doing to be successful. Ask them point blank if they realize that their opponents were working at that time, and they would continue to be unsuccessful if they just kept doing the same thing. That said, if they are some legit excuses, you may have to reevaluate your current solution to their problem. Those are some good points. As far as showing them being physically dominated, that wouldn't be hard. I had to stop watching film from last year because of crappy football I was watching. I was trying to scout what other teams were doing and keep finding myself getting pissed off because of lofts, arm tackles, blown coverages, fumbles, not firing off the ball, etc. Then I told myself I need to focus on what we are doing first before I can start focusing on that stuff. Just like you mentioned that there are some legit excuses and I would never hold that against an athlete. However changing a culture that is use to losing, use to being lazy, use to being unstructured, use to being undisciplined and used to being selfish, isn't going to be a easy thing to do. Most of the excuses I have heard so far fall into one of those categories. I don't blame the athletes for this culture either. It is what they are use to and what they have lived in for the past 4 or 5 years. From what I gathered about the previous staff, the only expectation they had for the players was to show up on the first day of practice. Coach, you need to show the athletes that what they are USED TO (accustomed to) needs to become what they USE TO (happened in the past, but not anymore) do. My HS team was the same way, and even though I was the most into football (ended up coaching, everyone knew I was going to be a coach, people were shocked when I left college ball, then football altogether) back then I really could not connect our sucking to our S&C program. Had someone just shown that to us....it might have been different.
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Post by coachguy83 on Feb 16, 2015 15:08:42 GMT -6
There was a school around here a few years ago that had a 19 year old head coach. He graduated from the school a couple of years before and was the only one that would take the job. It was the last year the school had football.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 16, 2015 15:49:41 GMT -6
on a side note.. I feel like im the one bringing *some* of them up from the grave... I'm new to the site and literally started on page 1 and am to 243 haha... I try not to dig em up but some of them are interesting! if this annoys everyone let me know and i'll stop haha No problem from me. I like re-reading most of them. Interesting to see what was talked about from past years, how posters may or may not have changed their style, how I posted, etc.
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Post by coachb5806 on Feb 16, 2015 16:11:09 GMT -6
Started coaching at 18 after graduating at my alma mater. Spent six years there as an assistant, NM 4a. Interviewed for a 2a HC job in 2011, didn't get it. Was contacted by the school in 2012, took the job at 24, was the 3rd HC in 3 yrs. Just finished our 3rd season 11-3, won first state title in 35 yrs. It has been an awesome experience. I thought I was ready at 24, but couldn't have been more wrong. Have been fortunate to have patient admin and assistants. Have learned a ton and still plenty more to learn
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Post by kylem56 on Feb 16, 2015 19:01:41 GMT -6
just took my first Head Coach position in December at age 28, very lucky and glad I was an assistant for 9 years under some great coaches before I took this job.
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Post by tmtfootball on Feb 17, 2015 13:58:52 GMT -6
I was 26 when I got the head coaching job.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Feb 17, 2015 16:38:54 GMT -6
I got my first HC job at 27. I'm now 31. I was ready at 27 for the level we're at which was indy at the time. Now that we're moving to district play- I feel like our program and my ability took some steps together. If I got a big time gig tomorrow I would be back to square one because of having freshman, JV and varsity to deal with, 12-15 coach staff, 100 players = 100-200 parent figures.
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Post by bluedevil58 on Feb 17, 2015 18:06:33 GMT -6
Our school just hired a 26 year old alum to be our new HC. He played in college and now has 2 years of MS as an assistant and HC, 1 year of HS position coaching, and 1 year of college position coaching experience, respectively.
Last year we lost a game to a 24 year old female HC. We gave her the first win for a female HFC in state history. She was their 3rd coach that SEASON (by week 6) and basically just signed the paperwork and handled all the administrative stuff.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 17, 2015 18:54:51 GMT -6
Our school just hired a 26 year old alum to be our new HC. He played in college and now has 2 years of MS as an assistant and HC, 1 year of HS position coaching, and 1 year of college position coaching experience, respectively. Last year we lost a game to a 24 year old female HC. We gave her the first win for a female HFC in state history. She was their 3rd coach that SEASON (by week 6) and basically just signed the paperwork and handled all the administrative stuff. So you are saying things are going smoothly for you then bluedevil58 lol
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Post by bluedevil58 on Feb 17, 2015 20:40:21 GMT -6
Our school just hired a 26 year old alum to be our new HC. He played in college and now has 2 years of MS as an assistant and HC, 1 year of HS position coaching, and 1 year of college position coaching experience, respectively. Last year we lost a game to a 24 year old female HC. We gave her the first win for a female HFC in state history. She was their 3rd coach that SEASON (by week 6) and basically just signed the paperwork and handled all the administrative stuff. So you are saying things are going smoothly for you then bluedevil58 lol I'm saying I'm still on my way out the door and I'm not looking back! lol
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Post by fantom on Feb 17, 2015 21:03:07 GMT -6
Boy, one of the reasons that I enjoy this forum is because it makes me feel better about where I work.
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 17, 2015 22:06:45 GMT -6
You guys are nothing. At The Zoo I was the oldest coach on the staff. I was 22. HC was 19, he hired his buddies, both 19, as OC and DC, OC crapped out midseason, tabbed another 19y/o buddy as OC, they giggled and bragged about how many plays they were installing every week, all the while the DC would blitz the flat defender and not assign anyone to pick it up.
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