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Post by ajreaper on Jan 24, 2008 9:57:26 GMT -6
You can work kids as hard- it's not what you do it's how you go about doing it. Work them as hard as you want but be positive and encourage them- it's how you do it not what you do.
I have a Line coach who has absolutely brutal core workouts yet players look forward to them and in fact will seek him out at camp to put them through a workout in the evenings when they could just be relaxing. Again not what you do but how you do it.
Those old school guys, who are still around to be called old school guys, have changed with the times and adjusted to each generations needs.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 24, 2008 10:13:26 GMT -6
I should have been more specific. I used Bryants name becuase people can relate to his coaching methods of back in the day. They can get a mental picture.
I was also talking about coaches that DONT CHANGE. Ofcourse Paul Bryant would adjust but like I said I was just using his name as an example and I said that IF HE DIDNT CHANGE AND USED HIS SAME METHODS.
I saw it first hand in college my freshman year. DIII no scholorships so this can relate to HS as well. We started with 58 kids in camp. We played our first game with 27 players. Ended the season with 24. The program was cancelled and I was forced to transfered since I still wanted to play football.
That is what happens when you're too "old school"
Back in the day you could push players around, even hit them a little bit. If you did that today you'd be fired. That was what I was getting at.
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Post by phantom on Jan 24, 2008 10:27:41 GMT -6
By bryant being fired I didn't mean because he wouldn't win games, thats not what I meant at all. I meant that if he were a high school coach and was that hard on his players like he was back then, it todays society kids would complain to their parents, the parents would complain to the SI and then he's be fired. That's what I meant, too.
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Post by nsuqb10 on Jan 24, 2008 10:35:01 GMT -6
I am a varsity head coach and got the job when I was 25. I dealt with a lot for my first head coaching job and on top of that 15 out of my 22 varsity starters were freshmen and sophomore. We went 0-10 but I learned a lot about my kids and and know what they can and cannot do. Overall I could have used a little more knowledge on certain things but nothing can prepare you for what you might face other than being put in the fire. Just a little from my point of view.
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Post by dacoachmo on Jan 24, 2008 10:45:08 GMT -6
my new boss is 24. 4A school in Indiana.
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Post by kylem56 on Jan 24, 2008 15:54:41 GMT -6
also, I heard Rich Rodriguez speak this past weekend and he said he was Head Coach at a small college Salem at age 24
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Post by wpialoline on Jan 24, 2008 18:31:23 GMT -6
i was offered one at 23 but I didn't think I was ready so I turned it down. Now at the age of 28 am now just starting to apply for jobs
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jan 24, 2008 22:33:25 GMT -6
I was a HC at 23 (small school) Head 5A coach at 28. (in 1997)
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Post by tim914790 on Jan 25, 2008 8:08:16 GMT -6
HC here at 27, am 28 now. I was an assistant at the school since I graduated so was around for 10 years (initially helping out then coaching) before I received the job. I was the O-Coordinator for 6 years.
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Post by gac8666 on Jan 25, 2008 9:28:56 GMT -6
I am the Varsity Offensive Line coach at 20. Im 21 now. My head coach is 35, he was also my coach when I played. 4A School in Florida.
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Post by tspring on Jan 25, 2008 12:11:29 GMT -6
AD Head Coach Texas 1A - 37 years old
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Post by run2daylight on Jan 25, 2008 12:17:14 GMT -6
I got my first HC job last year at 26. Played at that HS. Coached there for 3 years after graduating college. Got the job after the previous HC took us to a State Title game then bolted for a bigger school.
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Post by toddniklaus on Jan 25, 2008 13:18:08 GMT -6
I became a HC when I was 30
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Post by newhc on Jan 28, 2008 8:17:02 GMT -6
I was a HC at the age of 30.
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Post by chuff on Jan 28, 2008 21:36:16 GMT -6
I wonder what size schools each coach got his job at. I became HC at age 26. 1050 students (Division 3 in MI).
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Post by 1ring on Jan 28, 2008 21:52:26 GMT -6
Just curios as to what level of football some of you younger coaches coach at. Not knocking the smaller school, but they would be more likely to hire a 25-27 year old? And just because you washed jocks as a GA doesnt make you qualified to be a HC.
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Post by bigtimefan on Jan 28, 2008 22:56:02 GMT -6
I was 26 when I got my first head coaching job. It is common in the Sacramento Valley these days to hire coaches in their 20's. There has been so much growth.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 29, 2008 0:13:39 GMT -6
Just curios as to what level of football some of you younger coaches coach at. Not knocking the smaller school, but they would be more likely to hire a 25-27 year old? And just because you washed jocks as a GA doesnt make you qualified to be a HC. You didn't play or coach in college did u? Yea I know D3 college coaches arn't as good as D1, but just think how much of a better coach you would be if you got to follow urban meyer around for a whole year while he was at bowling green before he got big. Just being around the college atmosphere gets you so much experience. Beleive me it helps ALOT toward being qualified. I assume that comment was to me. I was the RB coach, never had to wash a peice of equipment in my life.
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Post by coachmason on Jan 29, 2008 8:06:10 GMT -6
I was a first Year Head Coach last year at 28.
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Post by darebelcoach on Jan 29, 2008 9:59:16 GMT -6
Just turned 30, in my second year at this school as a head coach, got hired at 28.....the school has about 950 students and we are 4A/5A in Illinois
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 5, 2008 11:00:49 GMT -6
My HS coach was hired when he was 25 or 26 I believe. Been there 11 or 12 years now I think. I would think being young might have its advantages if you don't have a family to go home to, kids to put to bed, etc. Current HC I work for is 37, first year as an HC, and also had his second baby in late July... ROUGH!
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Post by midlineqb on Feb 5, 2008 12:03:25 GMT -6
I was a HC at the age of 25, being hired sight unseen. This was actually my first year to coach. I was in the Army stationed in SC and was interviewed over the phone and offered the job. Coached there for 7 years then going to OK as an assistant for 6 years before going after a HC position again.
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Post by resnik77 on Feb 5, 2008 13:02:47 GMT -6
Spent 6 years as and assistant at Wittenberg University (Div. III). Got first HS HC job at 28.
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Post by coachdlo on Feb 15, 2015 13:20:08 GMT -6
The DC at the school im at is 51 years old. When he graduated college he got a history teaching job / HC of a small 8 man team in southwest Nebraska (probably only one willing to take it haha) he picked up an asst that worked for the city who never had coached football before.. Anyways. He was 20 years old. Had 17 kids on his roster (over half were seniors) Weird situation...
Lo and behold he lost his first 3 games. then won the next 6. made the playoffs and won the state title. He was 20 (!!) had a couple players that were 19 (!!)
obviously not the usual case. Just a cool story.
He moved to a bigger school the next year as an asst. Has never again tried to be a HC ( i have no idea why )..
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 15, 2015 14:24:25 GMT -6
What a douchbag I was 7 years ago.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using proboards
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Post by buck42 on Feb 15, 2015 14:36:10 GMT -6
It's all relative imo....most of the time when a younger coach gets a HFC job they were either promoted or they took a job that's not a "great situation".
I took my first head on at 29...I wasn't ready for all the extra BS but the only way to truly be ready is to jump in and learn.
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Post by blb on Feb 15, 2015 14:47:36 GMT -6
Skimming through this thread from '08 - whatever happened to Blutarsky and Knighter?! Two really good contributors BITD.
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 15, 2015 14:50:33 GMT -6
I was offered a HC job at 29 but I turned it down for the best. I have worked for one guy who was younger than me but I technically never coached a game with him. HC now is 54 or 55 I believe and has over 25 years of HC experience.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 15, 2015 15:11:47 GMT -6
Old thread, but an interesting one to go back and read.
I'm 28 and applying for HC jobs, but know I'm probably not ready and do so mostly for the experience of applying and interviewing. If I were to found a good situation I'd take it.
My current HC is 40 or 41 and just completed his first year as a high school HC, but he does come from the college ranks. He started out as an OC at Cal Poly, was a running backs coach at Navy, and most recently served in the same role at BYU before Anae came in and cleaned house on the offensive side.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 15, 2015 16:03:18 GMT -6
What a douchbag I was 7 years ago. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using proboards I sometimes cringe when I read these old threads and actually hope I DIDN'T contribute! It's kind of fun seeing several of them brought back to life the past week or so, though.
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