Death of Common Sense

Simple solution- ask the kid to come help and on the off chance the principal comes out to practice the kid is just there watching practice on a day back in town.

Side question- If you only want the kid the to help for an hour or two, why does your administration even know they're there?

Your response will probably be that you want them to know to cover your butt in case they get mad or something happens that could risk your job, but you're complaining about the principal basically trying to cover his?

How do they physically keep them away?

We had to take the CPR/First aid class last year. The CPR stuff was good to know but the first aid stuff was totally useless. First. like you we have a certified trainer. Second, the course was designed for OASHA, workplace stuff not sports medicine. I don't know about you guys but I've never had a player get electrocuted at practice. 

Our state requires one coach from the staff to attend the rules meeting, which is also useless because it's very unclear if the guy who gives the talk understands the rules (This year, while standing in front of a slide of the "90 Minute" rule, he contradicted it). A few years ago they changed the requirement to taking it online instead of a physical meeting. This year they changed it back. This is the good part: They didn't tell anybody. The boss went online to do the course and found out that he had to go to a meeting that day. 

This is kind of par for the course when you have an association run by school administrators. 

I should add that thus was the perfect time to read the OP. I just got home from a two hour Saturday morning in-service on my last clear weekend until at least November (We start practice Monday). The speaker spoke about sports law and the subtitle should have been "Guys Who Got In Trouble By Being Really, Really, Really Phoking Stupid". The guy wasn't bad but a significant part of his talk was about Title 9. We were all on-field coaches. What did anything that he said have to do with us? 

We bring in a ton of alumni to speak and help out at times. As long as they are supervised buy a paid coach and are never alone with any players administration was fine and they didn't have to meet the guidelines for a volunteer.

We kind of all ready had this board but I will offer my two sense again. If the CPR class and BG check are too big of a hassle for you or for that volunteer then you or him or whoever doesn't want to coach very bad. I don't care what job or profession you choose there are human resource CYA documents to sign, videos to watch, etc...

If that volunteer is worth having then he is worth 50 dollars out of your budget or pocket for that class.

On the case of the alumni stopping by to help out that's ignorant by your admin. Kids like that establish a culture of success in your school, community, neighborhood. If your admin doesn't get that then I would say they are lacking cultural responsiveness and skills to see the bigger picture and how communities grow through schools. Then I would say it is your job as a HC to sell that to them. We all know are kids and know which alums we should have around and which shouldn't.

Technically we have the same rule but we allow and encourage our college football alums to come back and use our facility when they are home over summer. Now if a kid stays at local kick and wants to volunteer that kid has to go through the CPR and BG check. To me that just shows the kid this is serious enough that we need you to go through the process. Again if he really wants to help he has no problem with that process. If he can't handle it then it is better he flakes out on that vs when we are counting on him on game day or practice.

jlenwood, I hear you about how frustrating it is, but this is just the schoolboard trying to play "CYA."

Last year I was at a school where a 25 year old former player came back and volunteered to coach with us after a stint in the military. He was a decorated war hero and everyone in the community rallied around him as he lost his mother to a long fight with cancer.

Well... it turned out that while he was here, he was also treating the cheerleading squad as his own personal harem. He had affairs with two different 15 year olds during the season and got busted coming onto a third. Luckily for the district, it was a small town and everyone involved decided not to pursue charges in light of who the guy was and what he meant to the community, on condition that he immediately stay away from those girls and all future activities at the school.

In this case, a background check wouldn't have netted anything to stop him from coaching, but he never actually had his required background check. If the case had moved forward and parents had felt like suing the school district for letting a "predator" around their kids, it could have gotten much uglier.

Even if you trust the person, they may still have sides to themselves you don't see. I know of a school where a well-respected former player came back to "help out" once a week and was secretly dealing steroids and painkillers to players while he was there. If a person you trust is allowed access to your kids by you and does something bad, then you're going to be in some serious trouble.  The school needs that legal protection there to prove that they (and you) did everything to guard against this sort of thing.

It's not pleasant, and I don't like it because the vast majority of the time it's unnecessary (and those background checks only show when a person was CHARGED with someone--a friend of mine has a great story about a SPED co-teacher he dealt with whose background check turned up clean, despite being fired from her last job for doing tons of inappropriate, bat guano insane stuff with 4th grade boys), but it's to protect your job as well as the school in court if something bad does happen.

Not an HR guy just a coach and teacher. I'm just saying if you aren't willing to jump through the necessary hoops than you don't want to do it that bad. If that is the worst part about the job than it isn't that bad of a job?

Just saying anything I have ever done working there has been things like this you have to do. I pour drafts at the concert venue and had to sit through a sexual harassment video, read 12 pages of docs about over serving, and sit through 3 hours of orientation about filling out a time card and greeting people politely. All common sense stuff

Was it a waste of time? Maybe if I only concentrate on those 6 hours, but if look at that fact that I make 100 bucks on a Friday to listen to live music and pour some beers then...eh not so bad.

Been other places I had to buy the required uniform and that can get pricey. Been other places I had to pay the 75 bucks for the drug screen. Every job has something we don't like.

My wife had to do a week of training and all the same stuff we have to do - CPR,BG, Etc.. Because she wanted too read to sick kids at the hospital once a week.

Do you have kids? Don't you want to know that at minimum schools, park districts, hospitals took some precaution to make sure the people around our kids have some background knowledge and aren't bad dudes? All I'm saying is this really so bad that we have to do this?

We do lots of things that go unnoticed and without thanks but if we are in this for the kids and we feel we can really make a difference in lives of others than isn't it worth it to jump through those hoops? That Hundo I make slanging some drafts is nice but it has nothing on the five minutes I get from a kid who calls me after he got through a tough class and reminds me about the sprints and how I told him that he will be able to get through way tougher stuff bc he learned how to handle pressure on the field.

Fantom what do you tell to your player that comes to you and tells you that he is failing Mr. SOB's class bc he won't keep the required notebook. He doesn't need to and he can prove it. He does just fine on all the tests. He obviously all ready knows the required material. But Mr. SOB has made it a requirement to keep a notebook or portfolio. What then?

More and more baloney. I had to cancel a scrimmage this August for a mandatory coaching clinic on concussions and all that. seriously?

I have no problem with background checks. It kind of bothers me that we have to pay out of pocket but I get it. Why do we have you pay for them, BTW? If there are no checks to do on a particular day do they send the guy home without pay? 

Sounds like a fundraiser. I'd never even heard of that one.

We have to go every 3 years at a cost of $45.  

My point is that I am Guessing you tell that kid to just get it done.