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Post by coachorr on Apr 14, 2009 7:18:45 GMT -6
air-- It wasn't horribly long ago that you could have the kids read a chapter on Monday, Outline the chapter on tuesday, Answer the chapter question on Wed, Review /ditto sheet on thursday on thursday, and chapter test on friday, all the while "Coach" was doodling up stuff or sleeping, or whatever. I couldn't imagine. I think if we ever go to merit pay ( something I am not necessarily against), the fall out from the lower socio-economic schools will be dramatic.
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Post by macwomac on Apr 14, 2009 7:28:31 GMT -6
The problem exists everywhere (although I will try the Wal-Mart tip ). We had two guys join our staff this year but had to let both of them go. We have openings that we just can't fill although our stipends are pretty good for the area. I will tell you though, its better to go without a coach than to just hire a "body" and hope he works out. I can tell you from experience, they never do! Don't put a guy out there unless you would want him coaching YOUR son! Sage advice. We had 1 applicant for an assistant job before last season. The guy knew NOTHING about football, but was eager, motivated and wanted to learn and the HC thought he could teach the guy. Unfortunately, the assistant was eager to be friends with the kids and parents, bought what they were selling 100% and now there is complete turmoil. He was fired, the HC had to resign, and now I'm out.....leaving ZERO football coaches on staff......terrible situation for the kids as there are no teaching spots open in the district.
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Post by coachorr on Apr 14, 2009 7:29:32 GMT -6
I'm with Hawke on this. Get in and love it. Live it. Our program is extremely solid, but guess what.....besides me and the HC NOT ONE COACH WENT TO A CLINIC SESSION. Not one...at any level. Is that arrogance? What is it? Hell...I'm nowhere near the coach I'd like to be...I need all the help I can get. These coaches are good guys. Do "good guys" win football games? Administrators are becoming real problems as well. I went to one clinic this Spring, I had it set up to pay for the gas, I had a buddy who had the room and I covered all the meals. Unfortunately, that week I was refinancing my house and so I used every last cent of my savings and all my money to put down on the loan. I didn't have the $55. Moreover, I wasn't sure when the loan was going to close, so I couldn't plan on going to the clinic until the house closed. At the clinic I was able to go to a mandatory rules clinic, which counts for the one in the Fall. I went to two basketball seminars, listened to four seminars from Boise State coaches and after the conference a college basketball coach sat down with me for two hours in his room to talk about the "dribble drive" offense. Just think of what I would have missed if I would not have gone. Well, to make the long story long, our principal wasn't going to pay the $55. I told her I had raised fundraiser money to cover this exact kind of thing. She said, "The money was raised for the kids and we can't use it to pay for coaches to go to clinics" What the heck?
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Post by coachorr on Apr 14, 2009 7:34:52 GMT -6
Ive got a SPED job right now that I cannot fill.. Our classroom was the dumping ground of every kid that teachers didn't want to deal with. Kid wouldn't be quite? send him to special ed he must have a learning disability. I ask to have these kids in class and be in special groups with me and be with me when we go on field trips. Why? Because of exactly what you are saying about them just being dumped in SPED. This is a lot of work for the SPED teacher. Moreover, when you have a good relationship with them they really appreciate it.
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Post by gdoggwr on Apr 14, 2009 9:44:49 GMT -6
Just curious do you guys think administration has put less of an emphasis on hiring teachers that can coach? I know thats the deal where I'm at. Right now there are only 3 coaches (out of a staff of nine) that are in the building. The rest of us are at Junior Highs or the "real" world. Honestly, it FU<&INg sucks. I really think it puts us at a disadvantage.
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Post by kangcoach on Apr 14, 2009 10:01:55 GMT -6
Thinking outside the box.......have any of you thought about modifying your schedule to fit with non-teachers who may want to coach? There has to be a ton of knowledgeable football guys out there that work "regular hours" but might be able to get to a 4pm or 4:30pm practice. Heck, put your players in a study hall right after school, get your academics in order and practice later. Most games are in the evening, why not practice then?
If you limit your search of coaches to just teachers, you may miss out on some really good guys.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Apr 14, 2009 10:20:39 GMT -6
That is what we do. we use the wt room and study period BEFORE practice to help fill some time before the regular Joes show up to coach.
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Post by coachgeorge51 on Apr 14, 2009 11:59:38 GMT -6
Good ideas, but bandages for a deeper problem in education. There just aren't quality football coaches out there. I had to scrape the youth league for coaches just to put together a staff.
Administrators aren't willing to tag a teaching job to an assistant football position anymore. Too many were claiming legal ramifications for excluding women - but, they can post jobs for a "dance" instructor...........................?
The places that win consistently have a strong staff that has been together for awhile. They have administrators who have high expectations of everyone and know what a great football program can do for a school and it's community.
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Post by carnac on Apr 14, 2009 12:48:35 GMT -6
Well I'll try and solve this problem. I'm looking for work. I'm an experienced coach looking to be an assistant coach in a quality program, so please hire me (this is not a joke).
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EDUCATION Bachelor of Science in Physical Education with a Minor in Athletic Coaching Missouri Western State University, St. Joseph, MO December -Certified to Teach Social Studies (6-12), P.E. (K-12), and Health (K-12)
WORK EXPERIENCE Head Coach Varsity Football, Strength & Conditioning Teacher Sherwood High School, Creighton, MO -Helped lead team to most points scored in a single season in school history
Assistant Varsity Football Coach, Offensive Coordinator,Offensive Line Apopka High School, Apopka FL, Orange County Public Schools -Helped coach Apopka Varsity Football team to a 12-2 record and a 6A state semifinal appearance -Helped lead Offensive unit that ranked #1 in Orange County at nearly 40 points per game
Weightlifting and Social Studies Teacher Apopka High School, Apopka FL, Orange County Public Schools Taught: World History, American History, Advanced Weight Training
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Post by coachriley on Apr 14, 2009 13:01:41 GMT -6
sweet jesus carnac, this is just my two cents, but I dont think youll have much of a problem finding somewhere with all your experience. Of course that is just my opinion and I am still a young buck.
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Post by coachwilley on Apr 14, 2009 21:59:22 GMT -6
Well if anyone wants to come to Nebraska there seems to be plenty of jobs open.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 15, 2009 1:05:05 GMT -6
One other point... not necessarily AIR's situation here, but I do know that as the divide between "good" schools and "crap" schools continues , part of the problem might be that people don't want to coach at "crap" schools. Keep in mind, that crap doesn't necessarily mean academics here (although it can).
While the NFL has achieved near perfect levels of parity and optimism on a year to year basis, and recruiting/scholarship restrictions are obviously leveling the college football playing field, it SEEMS (no real hard proof, just observational evidence from Louisiana) that the H.S game is quickly becoming a game of the haves vs the have nots...and the gap is widening quickly. In the past, i got the feeling that you had your bad programs and your good programs...and every so often one of those good programs had a run of kids, or some really special players, and they made title run. The last decade or so here in Lousiana, practice starts right around August 1st, and for all practical purposes you could have awarded the trophy August 2nd.
Maybe some of the issues with coaching positions are that people want certain jobs...or won't teach/coach at all. I mean, even here on a great coaching site, there is still tons of swagger and bravado about championships. Maybe some of the "new wave" of coaches only will work for a team that will probably get a ring. Just a late night thought.
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Post by coachbleu on Apr 15, 2009 1:21:49 GMT -6
the last time i checked, Notre Dame is in the hunt for the ring EVERY season in La.
Let me know when they have more talent than any public school
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 15, 2009 2:15:16 GMT -6
the last time i checked, Notre Dame is in the hunt for the ring EVERY season in La. Let me know when they have more talent than any public school Two mutually exclusive statements, that have nothing to do with each other, yet completely support my point just the same. Notre Dame high school (private school in South Central Louisiana) is certainly one of the "haves" I mentioned. I bet Coach Cook would have a significantly easier time finding coaches compared to "have not" schools Secondly, Notre Dame is an EXTREMELY good football program. This makes them a "have". Many if not most of the public schools are not as talented as Notre Dame. They don't have as many good good players as Notre Dame. What public schools in South Louisiana DO have that Notre Dame doesn't is black students. Don't make the mistake of thinking this makes those schools talented.
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Post by airraider on Apr 15, 2009 6:34:54 GMT -6
the last time i checked, Notre Dame is in the hunt for the ring EVERY season in La. Let me know when they have more talent than any public school I can name you around 20 schools in my area that are not as talented at Notre Dame.
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Post by docbrown on Apr 15, 2009 7:41:55 GMT -6
A big problem is definitley the hoops and red tape that all the new teachers have to jump through, and the lack of teaching jobs present in this economy. We've already had two young coaches on our staff here have to quit coaching football because they had to get other jobs because all the KS schools districts are on hiring freezes. I might be thrown into the same situation at some point soon.
I have a social studies degree (which I will contend it's harder to find an opening there then PE) and have been subbing the 4 years I've been out of college. There has just been little to no job opprotunites there. It's not like my resume is bad, I had over a 3.5 in college and destroyed the PLT and content area Praxis tests. Now, because of the way KS has their licensure set up, my license is going to expire because subbing dosen't count as proffessional experience. I'll have to go back to school and take classes just to re-certify. I might get pushed out of coaching for a year or so to do this. Are those classes going to make me a better teacher than I am now? No, not at all; but it's all this CYA bereaucratic BS that's making it hard for us yonger guys to stick around the coaching business
Well before I was coaching, I actually was working at Wal-Mart... maybe it's time to go back...
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Post by coachbleu on Apr 15, 2009 11:41:41 GMT -6
I watched Notre Dame play vs. Richwood this year. Talk about David vs. Goliath. ND was outmanned at every position excepts LB (and that was probably a tie).
Where is all this talent you are speaking of? Why don't I see LSU's football team riddled with ND players like Evangel?
They have good hs football players because they are well coached. Everyone knows that Cook is a great coach. Does anyone remember what he did with Crowley high? They were terrible forever before him.
You'll never convince me that ND has better talent than the public schools that they play. Only one time have I seen them have what I thought was the best talent, and they didn't even win it that year.
They play swarming, disciplined defense with guys who are under-sized, and are often not that fast.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Apr 15, 2009 11:49:38 GMT -6
With all of the hoops to jump through its a nightmare to move from state to state to coach football. Trust me.
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Post by indyball on Apr 15, 2009 12:17:20 GMT -6
coachbleu, I believe you are missing the point of the post you are arguing against. While I may be wrong myself, I believe the post is talking about haves and have nots in terms of enticing places to coach. Let me guess, Notre Dame is a prep school or private school, obviously religiously based. Students who attend come from fantastic family bases, are above average to excelling academically, and the athletes are responsible, coachable, respectful young men. They are at practice on time, in the weight room the majority of the off-season, study film, and carry their football in one hand and a bible in the other. Now, take the opposite of each of the above listed qualities and imagine a school like that. As a potential assistant coach, where are you more likely going to turn your resume in? Unfortunately, I have to agree with the idea that there are situations that some coaches will try to stay away from, whether it be a bad situation or one in which the coach doesn't feel his attributes mesh with, whatever. In my experience, the best programs in the state seem to fill up the sideline and crowd the bird's nest with assistant coaches just wanting to be part of the experience, some on a volunteer basis. Who volunteers to get their a$$ handed to them week in and week out? Who signs up to have parents berating and rebuking them as ignorant powermongers, or kids not showing up to practice either out of laziness or they have to go to court that day.
While I have no basis for judgement, I do believe there are a high number of coaches out there that are in it for personal accomplishment or career advancement as opposed to being in it for the kids. These kinds of folks tend to lean toward the Haves when applying...IMO.
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Post by airraider on Apr 15, 2009 12:52:25 GMT -6
I watched Notre Dame play vs. Richwood this year. Talk about David vs. Goliath. ND was outmanned at every position excepts LB (and that was probably a tie). Where is all this talent you are speaking of? Why don't I see LSU's football team riddled with ND players like Evangel? They have good hs football players because they are well coached. Everyone knows that Cook is a great coach. Does anyone remember what he did with Crowley high? They were terrible forever before him. You'll never convince me that ND has better talent than the public schools that they play. Only one time have I seen them have what I thought was the best talent, and they didn't even win it that year. They play swarming, disciplined defense with guys who are under-sized, and are often not that fast. Coach, I am not doubting you on ND not having great talent.. I am justing trying to speak of just how low the talent level is at some public schools. Just to name a few Sarepta Lakeside North Caddo Ringgold Woodlawn (shr)
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 15, 2009 13:21:05 GMT -6
coachbleu, I believe you are missing the point of the post you are arguing against. While I may be wrong myself, I believe the post is talking about haves and have nots in terms of enticing places to coach. Let me guess, Notre Dame is a prep school or private school, obviously religiously based. Students who attend come from fantastic family bases, are above average to excelling academically, and the athletes are responsible, coachable, respectful young men. They are at practice on time, in the weight room the majority of the off-season, study film, and carry their football in one hand and a bible in the other. Now, take the opposite of each of the above listed qualities and imagine a school like that. As a potential assistant coach, where are you more likely going to turn your resume in? Unfortunately, I have to agree with the idea that there are situations that some coaches will try to stay away from, whether it be a bad situation or one in which the coach doesn't feel his attributes mesh with, whatever. In my experience, the best programs in the state seem to fill up the sideline and crowd the bird's nest with assistant coaches just wanting to be part of the experience, some on a volunteer basis. Who volunteers to get their a$$ handed to them week in and week out? Who signs up to have parents berating and rebuking them as ignorant powermongers, or kids not showing up to practice either out of laziness or they have to go to court that day. Very good synopsis and intuitiveness for someone not familiar with the particular schools here. Bleu has indeed missed the mark and the concept of "have" and "have not" schools. He also is missing the mark on "how a team looks" vs "how good a team is". I really have absolutely no idea why he brought this point up in this thread. "have " and "have not" has very little to do with Notre Dame of Louisiana not having LSU caliber players, unless one wants to say that ND is less of a have than a school like Evangel Christian was 7 years ago. I believe airraider can attest to the fact that big beautiful black bodies does not necessarily = good football players or good football program. But that is the mindset here in south Louisiana...apparently even some coaches have it. In fact, I am pretty sure that prior to last season, Airraider would have been quite confident that his team "looked" the part in shorts and helmets as well as almost any team in the state. Regardless (since that is not really the topic being discussed) : Coach Bleu--Notre Dame IS the part..they don't have to look the part. The fact that, as you said, they are in the hunt for a ring every year is EXACTLY what I am talking about (and for the last few years, they did play in the most openly contested classification in Louisiana) is exactly my point. They are a have. If they have an opening on staff...they are going to get interest. Air's team is not. That is the point. I don't know about other states, but here in LA, there are probably on average 6-8 programs that are "haves" in each classification (5 classes).
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Post by indyball on Apr 15, 2009 15:13:39 GMT -6
Ironically, here in AZ, we also have a Notre Dame Prep and they have won the last two state titles in their respective division. They have the same characteristics, so I had a hunch Notre Dame (La.) was similar to some degree.
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Post by champ93 on Apr 15, 2009 17:56:29 GMT -6
One other point... not necessarily AIR's situation here, but I do know that as the divide between "good" schools and "crap" schools continues , part of the problem might be that people don't want to coach at "crap" schools. Keep in mind, that crap doesn't necessarily mean academics here (although it can). To this point I have to agree at least with the perception of "crap" schools by outsiders. A school in my league had a few high profile kids at one point and they had a slew of coaches with tremendous experience ranging from former Big Ten assistants to former NFL players. As those kids graduated, all those coaches faded away (not before kicking everyone's butt for a few years.) Now they have a very different look. I have had a hard time getting coaches because many perceived us a "crap school." I've talked to people in and out of the building with football coaching experience and have been told that they "just didn't want to be part of a rebuilding."
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 15, 2009 20:29:43 GMT -6
I'm with Hawke on this. Get in and love it. Live it. Our program is extremely solid, but guess what.....besides me and the HC NOT ONE COACH WENT TO A CLINIC SESSION. Not one...at any level. Is that arrogance? What is it? Hell...I'm nowhere near the coach I'd like to be...I need all the help I can get. These coaches are good guys. Do "good guys" win football games? Administrators are becoming real problems as well. I went to one clinic this Spring, I had it set up to pay for the gas, I had a buddy who had the room and I covered all the meals. Unfortunately, that week I was refinancing my house and so I used every last cent of my savings and all my money to put down on the loan. I didn't have the $55. Moreover, I wasn't sure when the loan was going to close, so I couldn't plan on going to the clinic until the house closed. At the clinic I was able to go to a mandatory rules clinic, which counts for the one in the Fall. I went to two basketball seminars, listened to four seminars from Boise State coaches and after the conference a college basketball coach sat down with me for two hours in his room to talk about the "dribble drive" offense. Just think of what I would have missed if I would not have gone. Well, to make the long story long, our principal wasn't going to pay the $55. I told her I had raised fundraiser money to cover this exact kind of thing. She said, "The money was raised for the kids and we can't use it to pay for coaches to go to clinics" What the heck? Two words- Slush Fund
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 15, 2009 20:37:51 GMT -6
I had a hell of a time finding a job in Illinois out of college in 98 as a Social Studies teacher and willing to coach football, wrestling and perhaps a spring sport. Probably because I didn't know anyone and didn't play for a legend or popular guy. Took me three years to find a teaching job. And that was at a school with 45 kids. I volunteered as a football/wrestling coach for four years before getting paid.
Still had difficulty finding a job somewhat five years later after being a HC and taking a team to the playoffs. Don't plan on leaving my current job because it'll be tough to find another (plus other factors, like I'm happy)
SS is a tough gig to get a job here in the Land of Lincoln. May not be so tough for me now because I know a ton more people and I'm getting a little recognition in the area for my abilities, but I really don't want to find out.
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Post by lgoody on Apr 15, 2009 21:07:39 GMT -6
A major hurdle that I've had to hear about from people here at my university (and when I was in High School) is the stigma that teachers who coach carry. (football coaches in particular...)
Especially phys ed and history teachers. As a history guy myself, I'm kind of tired of getting eye rolls. I've never thought teaching was a horrible profession, but there's some stuff about it that gets me.
My Dad has been in the public school system for close to 30 years; he's taught nothing but idiots for years. I remember sitting in on one of his classes when I was in 7th grade; it was terrible.
He's had kids who have failed world and us history 2 and 3 times, and here they are again-then, those kids count on his personal "record", and he gets questions as to why his grades are not as high as the honor roll kids who are in honors US down the hall.
DUH?? Is that even a question?? These are the same kids who wouldn't get the joke in Animal House when the guy talks about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
I don't wanna get into teaching, and not be taken seriously. Not only as a coach, BUT AS A TEACHER. I made a 5 on the AP US history test, would have done the same to the AP Euro test if I didn't take the same college level class for it. I've got close to a 3.8 in my history classes, and I can conceivably finish my major by my Junior year next year. I know history. I understand it.
Problem is, when I apply for a job, am I going to have to fight through that BS? If I am hired, am I going to get kids who have failed the same class 2 and 3 times, and be expected to perform at close to the same level as the guy/gal down the hall teaching it to Honors level kids who are motivated by THEMSELVES to succeed, or a the very least the kids who haven't taken the class 3 times?
I love football, but I don't know how happy I could be if I was forced to teach material to kids who are not only not interested in the subject (which I understand will happen), but aren't interested in trying to even pass the class, and aren't interested in motivating themselves to succeed in the classroom.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 15, 2009 21:15:25 GMT -6
A major hurdle that I've had to hear about from people here at my university (and when I was in High School) is the stigma that teachers who coach carry. (football coaches in particular...) Especially phys ed and history teachers. As a history guy myself, I'm kind of tired of getting eye rolls. I've never thought teaching was a horrible profession, but there's some stuff about it that gets me. My Dad has been in the public school system for close to 30 years; he's taught nothing but idiots for years. I remember sitting in on one of his classes when I was in 7th grade; it was terrible. He's had kids who have failed world and us history 2 and 3 times, and here they are again-then, those kids count on his personal "record", and he gets questions as to why his grades are not as high as the honor roll kids who are in honors US down the hall. DUH?? Is that even a question?? These are the same kids who wouldn't get the joke in Animal House when the guy talks about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor. I don't wanna get into teaching, and not be taken seriously. Not only as a coach, BUT AS A TEACHER. I made a 5 on the AP US history test, would have done the same to the AP Euro test if I didn't take the same college level class for it. I've got close to a 3.8 in my history classes, and I can conceivably finish my major by my Junior year next year. I know history. I understand it. Problem is, when I apply for a job, am I going to have to fight through that BS? If I am hired, am I going to get kids who have failed the same class 2 and 3 times, and be expected to perform at close to the same level as the guy/gal down the hall teaching it to Honors level kids who are motivated by THEMSELVES to succeed, or a the very least the kids who haven't taken the class 3 times? I love football, but I don't know how happy I could be if I was forced to teach material to kids who are not only not interested in the subject (which I understand will happen), but aren't interested in trying to even pass the class, and aren't interested in motivating themselves to succeed in the classroom. Find yourself a nice private school..or look to teach at the collegiate level then...LOL. I don't blame you..I was in the same boat. The public school system is underfire..because you win elections by putting responsibilities and blame on others. This is a trend that won't stop anytime soon. The CAUSE of low performing schools is low performing students from low performing parents who all live in a culture of low performance. Unfortunately, the "cure" will never be addressing the cause, because that doesnt win elections.
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Post by lgoody on Apr 15, 2009 21:27:03 GMT -6
So you have to change the culture...think anybody will figure out a way to galvanize a nation anytime soon? Ha...
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 15, 2009 22:12:40 GMT -6
The public school system is underfire..because you win elections by putting responsibilities and blame on others. This is a trend that won't stop anytime soon. The CAUSE of low performing schools is low performing students from low performing parents who all live in a culture of low performance. Unfortunately, the "cure" will never be addressing the cause, because that doesnt win elections. BRAVO!!
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Post by coachriley on Apr 16, 2009 2:40:13 GMT -6
Just a quick question for everyone since we started talking about it being hard for SS teachers to find a gig, did I go entirely into the wrong teaching field?? I am about to graduate, so not much I can do about it right now, but just wondering if I should already start looking into getting certified in another area as well.
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