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Post by 19delta on Dec 3, 2017 19:04:36 GMT -6
Three words...Row the Boat.
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Post by 19delta on Dec 3, 2017 9:43:24 GMT -6
How much is a brand-new facemask? At minimum, $35. It is a lot more for speedflex facemasks. For 40 helmets, that is a lot of cheddar if it is an additional $15 per helmet. I would love to have 2 different colored facemasks, but redoing our look is a lot of $. We ordered 37 Nike, home Jerseys and pants for just under $7,500. We are raising the $, close, to ordering the away jerseys and pants, another $7,500 (took a chance with this approach, it seems to be working). Repainting the helmets and redoing the facemasks is the last step of the image improvement. Sounds like you guys are going to be looking sharp next year! I bet the kids are pretty excited.
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Post by 19delta on Dec 2, 2017 16:56:09 GMT -6
Our reconditioning includes a repainting of the helmet and face mask I believe. I plan on changing both the color of the helmet and facemask. What I do not understand is why I have a charge of $15 for changing colors when my shell is white. If they repaint the helmet anyways, why does it cost extra if the base is white? I can see why the facemask would cost extra. They have to strip it and re-dip it, if I am correct. I don't think helmets get re-painted as part of the normal reconditioning process. If the helmet is still the original color, it just gets stripped down, inspected, cleaned, and buffed. Re-painting is only done when you are changing helmet colors or you are sending in helmets for reconditioning that were previously painted.
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Post by 19delta on Dec 2, 2017 16:50:07 GMT -6
Got a quote for the reconditioning and facemask re-dip. How does this quote from Schutt compare to Riddell reconditioning? I have asked the Riddell guy, just haven't hear back as of yet. Helmets reconditioned $45 add $14.95 for color change to standard pro-gloss paint. Freight is $4/helmet. Facemasks re-dipped for $19.95. How much is a brand-new facemask?
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Post by 19delta on Nov 30, 2017 19:52:03 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Nov 27, 2017 21:01:46 GMT -6
OP was about HOW could I present this to my administration? Yes maybe the systems won’t align but having familiarity with a coach that promotes our high school is important. We have a lot of daddy ball and other schools in are small area who actively recruit. I want to bypass that possibility and keep kids through familiarity and someone who is clearly on board. How would you present it? Yes, I understand that. I would just ask. All they can do is say no. But as I mentioned, I think you will run into HR issues. You are essentially asking the school to create a new job. And one that does not actually work with the students of the school at that. That would be tough sledding. Not to mention...how exactly does that particular person get to be the coach in the first place? Have answers for these questions/issues before you ask. Probably will also need board approval. At least it would in my district. Another issue is liability. If the coach is going to be a district employee, the school is responsible for those kids when they are under the coach's supervision. Do the benefits of having the junior high coach on staff outweigh the financial costs to the district and exposure to potential liability? I don't know the answer to that question but I'm sure that school administrators and board members will ask it.
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Post by 19delta on Nov 26, 2017 23:02:14 GMT -6
Novel idea: teach the kids how to lift weights and work their butts off. Do speed and agility drills and stuff like that. Be a coach. Change a tire... Smh! A little harsh but I get what you are saying. Often, it seems that a lot of guys have this idea about being some kind of Hollywood version of a coach who imparts profound wisdom or teaches crucial life skills on young people. While that might be needed in some places, I think it is ok to just be a football coach, too. Show up on time, don't take a lot of sick days, don't let your private life become public, pay your bills, don't be creepy around women, make a point of being down in the weight room with the kids a couple times a week...for a lot of guys, this list would be asking a lot! 😂
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Post by 19delta on Nov 26, 2017 19:04:01 GMT -6
Weren't you about to be homeless a month ago? Temporarily struggling with money doesn't mean I always have. Have done programming for years now. Recently, freelance, though. Currently a car salesman, but do programming on the side.
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Post by 19delta on Nov 26, 2017 17:09:11 GMT -6
What's your hesitation now? Programming is more fun, and it pays better. Now, you could program factory welding machines, but I like making apps and games. I just hope one day 2k gets their heads out of their assess, and realize that a generic football game with editable teams, players, stadiums, divisions, etc. is NOT illegal. I'd put my application in the day they decided to do that. Within a few days, geeks like me would remake the NFL from those generic sets. I still have the urge to learn welding, but currently learning motorcycle repair first. Another fun trade skill. Weren't you about to be homeless a month ago?
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Post by 19delta on Nov 25, 2017 13:00:33 GMT -6
WTF is Quaker Steak and Lube? Auto-themed wing and burger joint. Pretty good.
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Post by 19delta on Nov 18, 2017 6:29:31 GMT -6
We had a player in 2012 whom I’m pretty sure if we’d been keeping track had half a dozen grandparents die and another half dozen dentist appointments in the span of a month and a half. There was also a couple “church functions” he had to go at 3 in the afternoon during the week but the guy cussed like a sailor. Don’t miss him at all LOL I’ve had a kid play the “i didn’t know we needed equipment” BS. He was a scout player but he was playing the other team’s feature player who lined up all over the place on offense. It was about week 8 or 9 and he knew he needed to bring it. Then he pulled the same ish when he was supposed to play in a JV game. Maybe I’m a heartless prick but I still hate him to this day for pulling that. I turned down his social media friend request (LOL that showed him) and purposely didn’t acknowledge him when we were at a mutual friend’s wedding. Dude is a firefighter now. I actually hope I see him on the job just so I can say “did you bring your equipment today?” Yes I’m a jerk. I too take pleasure in deleting social media requests from jagbags! 😂
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Post by 19delta on Nov 16, 2017 18:56:36 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Nov 16, 2017 15:11:33 GMT -6
I've had more than a few kids over the years miss practice because their grandma or grandpa died for the 3rd or 4th time.
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Post by 19delta on Nov 7, 2017 20:20:07 GMT -6
I have one but I only bring it out when the wife is out of town and I'm feeling lonely.
Oh wait, you're talking about a blow up TUNNEL...
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Post by 19delta on Nov 3, 2017 17:12:52 GMT -6
Dude..... Whoa..... Far out.....
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Post by 19delta on Nov 3, 2017 17:06:33 GMT -6
I am currently H.C at a school that has ZERO weight room. We have the space to put in a weight room but the school will not fund any of it. I am curious if anyone has been in this position and wondering how you handled it? What were your top priorities? How did you get funding or raise money? Where did you have the most luck finding equipment for good prices? Any help would be greatly appreciated! How many kids in the school? What are you doing for off-season S&C now? Regarding equipment, I would focus on the basics to start. You will need a couple of these: These: These: And these: Pretty much, you can do everything you need with these items.
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Post by 19delta on Nov 1, 2017 20:15:52 GMT -6
So if only 8 kids' parents make it to a parent meeting..why have the meeting? That is my point. Either the meeting is important, or it isn't. For the same reason that we have Back to School Night. Or conferences. Ours start tomorrow. I will say the same thing approximately 125 times over the next day and half. I will be ready to shoot myself in the face by noon on Friday!
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Post by 19delta on Nov 1, 2017 20:13:21 GMT -6
along the same lines, what's the deal with kids that get hurt just not showing up anymore? I'm pretty sure that until recently when a kid got hurt and couldn't play, he still showed up to practice and games. helped out where he could, and was around the team here lately at two different schools i've been at a kid gets hurt and we never see the kid again, they just hang out in the training room until they are cleared to participate, and forget showing up to games. I asked one and looked at me like I asked him the dumbest question in the world "why would I come to the game if I can't play?" weird At our first team meeting before practice started we told kids that even if they were injured and could not practice they were expected to be at practice (much less game).
If they weren't, I would assume they quit, although that never happened that I can remember.
You're either a part of the team, or you're not.
I hear you...I really do. But some times, having those kids around is a huge pain in the neck because it just isn't worth the grabass. We used to practice on a field that had a bunch of walnut trees along the side. The walnuts would fall of the trees and lay in piles on the practice field. So, when we would have a fairly big MASH unit of hurt kids who were messing around, I would have to yell over at them, "Hey you brokedicks (I had just got out of the Army ), go pick up some walnuts!
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Post by 19delta on Nov 1, 2017 20:07:12 GMT -6
"Coach, I can't be at practice today, I got stung by like 50 yellow jackets." Actual quote via text. "_______ and _______ will not be at the varsity game Friday or the jv game Saturday. We will be taking a family trip to the Nascar race." Not an exact quote but pretty close. Had a kid miss a Friday game and a JV Monday game because his dad took him to a lineman convention. Not like a football lineman, like an electric lineman. Kid’s a 14 year old freshman. Those ComEd guys make big bucks!
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Post by 19delta on Nov 1, 2017 20:02:25 GMT -6
That wouldn't be realistic for us.....and I assume many others I don't necessarily agree. If not a parent meeting..a signed parent contract for those that can't make it. Perhaps a DVD explaining it etc. Again, if it is important enough to ask/mandate the parents who are going to show up to go...it is important enough for all. If not, well football isn't required. Or no parent meeting at all. Either works. When I was coaching youth ball, I had a parent's meeting every year. And of course, most of the parents who attended were the parents you weren't going to have to worry about. For the parents who chose to not attend (many of whom are complete dopes), I simply emailed the team rules and procedures to them along with a note saying that they were responsible for knowing them and if they had any questions or concerns about the rules they needed to contact me. And if there ever was an issue during the season, I would simply remind the parent to review our rules and procedures.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 28, 2017 5:44:43 GMT -6
What were the parent's objections? Just wondering how she framed her argument and why she was resistant to what you and your staff are trying to do. She thought it was “ {censored}” that we made her kids run after they missed practice despite the dr telling them to not go outside after their shots (which was a new one to me). I explained to her that we’re out there for 2 hours a day. You can’t miss that and still be in the same condition as the kids who were there. She was still pissed. Oddly, she didn’t seem to care that her kid wasn’t starting Friday. I think she was mainly pissed because she had to wait for them to finish running and that impacted her personal life. I really doubt it had anything more to it than she didn’t get her way and had to take time out of her life. Ultimately in her meeting with the AD she tried everything she could to get her way and get me in trouble. She ended with “my sons told me Coach Larrymoe said practice sometimes makes him want to do heroin. You gunna let that around my boys?” AD asked me about and I said, you’ve seen our games, don’t they make you want to do drugs? He laughed and told me not to say things like that. The irony is she’s an ex stripper who I assure you does drugs and she drug that out to try to achieve her means of getting me in trouble. That's great...I love your AD's response! And can someone REALLY be an "ex-stripper"...
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Post by 19delta on Oct 26, 2017 9:42:30 GMT -6
We had a decent amount of pushback from one parent in particular. She called a meeting with our AD, he backed me and we didn't hear much, if anything, the rest of the season about such things. Despite the horror stories, I think most parents, deep down, realize you have to be at practice to have any understanding of what's going on in that week's game. What were the parent's objections? Just wondering how she framed her argument and why she was resistant to what you and your staff are trying to do.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 25, 2017 20:45:11 GMT -6
Also, in conjunction with running a mile, if you were a varsity starter that missed a Tuesday you didn’t play defense. Miss Wednesday? No offense. Thursday? You just end up not playing anywhere. larrymoe I know you had a rough season this year (that you probably saw coming). But you had a nice run at your previous school. Do you think that, given your prior success, you have some "street cred" and that is why you didn't get more pushback from parents? Would it have been harder for you to implement something like this if you were a younger guy without an established record?
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Post by 19delta on Oct 25, 2017 20:40:02 GMT -6
Looking into next season. What goes into killing the idea that the players can miss practice. That effort isn’t important. To get parents to stop scheduling appointments during practice times. To get kids to summer workouts/ 7on7. What is your advice to getting these problems fixed in the best way possible in a place where two things have happened 1st Head Coach (school was built in the 80s or 90s). Good coach.... but extremely old school. Like to the point he didn’t believe in summer workouts. It finally caught up with the guy in like 2011. Principal was anti sports hires a guy who was a JR high coach somewhere and that guy has been operating the program like a JR high program for the last 5 years. Things have went really down hill. Lost kids to the point they lowered the classification. Still have crazy speed and size. New principle has come in. She wants things to be fixed. Very pro sports. Husband was a coach. She was a coach. So what’s your ideas on fixing this situation going forward when it’s all the program has known. I felt like I was reading about my program. We have a similar situation right now. We had a giant mess when I was hired. The previous coach was all about recruiting kids and being their friend. He allowed kids to do whatever they wanted. They would never go to class or practice, but on game day they would definitely be playing. When he was fired by the new principal, 10+ starters left the program. When I came in, they didn't have a lifting program and the "football weights" class had 32 kids (we have 1,700 kids in the building). A few more dropped out when they found out they would have to lift. I started summer with 50 kids, by fall camp had 60 and finished the season with 45. I didn't have the option to fully commit to booting the trouble makers because I was already only dressing 35 kids (10+ 9th and 10th graders). Needless to say it was a miserable 0-10 season, but I held strong to my rule of you don't come to practice you don't play. Sub varsity kids missed a half and varsity kids didn't dress for the game if they missed. I made it real clear that I was willing to go 0-10 with inferior talent if needs be. I have an amazing administration that has supported me the whole way. Looking forward to getting more bodies into the program and building on the core group of guys that bought in this year. Nice job, Coach. Way to stick to your guns. Good luck and I hope you get things moving in the right direction this offseason.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 25, 2017 20:37:52 GMT -6
The longer I've been at this, as a fairly young assistant coach and coordinator, I firmly believe that the best approach is "no half measures." Crack down and if you lose some you lose some but half measures only result in headaches and not really allowing you to build the culture the way you want it. For me when it's my program and my policy there will be 1 standard and it will be met or there will be consequences and if those consequences aren't enough and the standards are continually being broken then you'll turn your {censored} in. For instance in my current stop, we've had a kid miss 23 days from the beginning of summer till now. HC still lets him be apart because "we'll he needs us more than we need him, and he is a junior that has talent if he gets it together he could play as a senior" He gets to play JV and he is the best player on the field every week as he should be. Would have been a varsity starter for us if he would simply show up and do whats asked. I'm of the belief that keeping him around actually does more program harm than good for him or us. It allows mediocrity and noncomittedness to fest and brew + he takes reps from others who are younger but not as good yet. I understand your point and when I was an assistant coach I always wondered why the HC kept those guys around, and for the same reasons. However after having become a HC who has been through this twice now, meaning gone to an underachieving school and established a culture and won I have changed my opinion, not to say you can't keep with your thought process. For me I agree with you HC, and think that he has the best interest of that kid in mind, keep the kid in your program and keep preaching to him correct principles, effort and teamwork because you never know when they are going to put it all together. Sometimes we as coaches and the adults in these kids lives have to be the ones who want it for them more than they want it for themselves until they pull their heads out. Keeping kids that are talented, but are immature and lazy or uncommitted in your program doesn't all for noncommittedness to fester, I mean you said it yourself he doesn't play Varsity because he won't show up and completely commit, well that's exactly how you should treat a player like that. You guys are doing right by that kid, If he ever pulls his head out then you get a great commited player. Generally speaking, you can't just cut kids from the football team for being lazy or unmotivated. At least you can't cut kids for those reasons at the numerous places I have coached. But you CAN control playing time and that is really all that motivates the kids we are talking about in this thread.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 25, 2017 20:29:59 GMT -6
We had an issue with kids missing for various reasons at the beginning of the year. We went with the policy that if you missed practice-regardless of reason- you ran a mile to make up conditioning. Had one mom bitch about, and both her kids ended quitting, but you won’t miss those kind of kids. For us, it drastically cut down on kids missing. "Motivation is simple. You eliminate those who aren't motivated." --Lou Holtz
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Post by 19delta on Oct 24, 2017 4:26:47 GMT -6
A few years ago, a team tried an onside kick. It went about 5 yards, and as it was dying, one of our recently fast kids swooped it, scooped it up, and went untouched into the end zone. Their coach was yelling that we couldn't do that, because it didn't go 10 yards. It was right before half, and their coach just kept losing his damn mind over it. On his way in at half, he starts screaming at our staff. About how we teach our kids to cheat and crap like that. It was hilarious. I still don't really know what he thought the rule was. I'm thinking he thought the 10 yard rule was for both teams, but, no one can be that stupid. Right? The old saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" certainly applies!
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Post by 19delta on Oct 19, 2017 17:02:28 GMT -6
There are many schools that just don't deserve a good coach. Something about bringing a horse to water comes to mind... I disagree with this...I think it’s fair to say there are parents and admin that don’t deserve a good coach, but the kids always do. Meh. The kids are a problem because the parents are a problem. 6 of one, half dozen of another. The final result is going to be the same. The point is that there are many communities that simply aren't willing to support the effort that it takes to build a competitive sports program. It takes a lot of work and it can't be done by the coaching staff alone. You give every job an honest effort and do your best. But, at some point, you have to decide if what you are putting in is worth what you are getting out.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 19, 2017 14:10:42 GMT -6
There are many schools that just don't deserve a good coach. Something about bringing a horse to water comes to mind...
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Post by 19delta on Oct 12, 2017 21:14:53 GMT -6
All-time great Lou Holtz moment:
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