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Post by silkyice on Jul 22, 2018 8:17:08 GMT -6
Somewhat serious...have you been drinking all day? No. If you think, God forbid, the demands of the game, if taught correctly, teaches kids values and life lessons all by itself. Coaches do not need to spend time talking about thing kids are actually experiencing. Please stop and read what you are writing, because I cannot understand what half your posts are trying to say.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 20, 2018 17:41:24 GMT -6
Outfitting whole varsity with them. Coming in Thursday.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 20, 2018 13:57:11 GMT -6
If I come off as a smart donkey, I apologize, but isn't it us coaches who are promoting safety in the sport due to seeing how bad it can end up when we don't? If I believe that I am putting a player in a situation where I have not taught them how to be safe, I don't really care about what the player or parent would think, I would get the player out of that situation. When there are situation where it's not possible to teach them how to defend themselves (high-lows, facemask/horsecollar tackles, punter/kicker right after a kick, etc.) we try to keep them safe with rules instead. That is how I see the rule changes, but I am a bit blue eyed as well I'll admit. it my outlook on things. I understand that I come off as a bull in China shop. 1 of 2 things is true: 1. The game is fundamentally to dangerous. Fine. SHUT IT DOWN. Why bother with rule changes it is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED GAME. OR 2.We ha've failed the kids by not being adults and enforcing the rules already on the books. And instead of enforcing rules on the books, lets just change the rules hoping the adults can actually be adults. If we are going to change the game as it is meant to be played? Where the adults on this board demanding we stop and right now? Say that blocking and tackling is to dangerous. Then resign from coaching. And in either case you are a coward. Not aimed at any one personally. ? ? ?
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Post by silkyice on Jul 19, 2018 18:59:44 GMT -6
I have said this for years about high school. Cut on snap only inside the box. Easier to see and enforce and probably safer.
Does away with ball in box or not. Does away with under center or shotgun. Just simplier.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 14, 2018 14:01:23 GMT -6
At a previous school, they started a 4x4 Club/Award presented to any student athlete who participated in 4 sports for 4 years in high school. During the Senior Awards night all award winners were presented with a plaque, had their name added to the plaque that hung in the school and were presented with a lifetime pass to all regular-season activities. 4 sports in a year for 4 years? Does this include a summer sport?
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Post by silkyice on Jul 10, 2018 18:14:44 GMT -6
24% of all injuries in football are concussions. Disclaimer..I only read the article linked, and briefly skimmed the study itself. Didn't read, but I call major BS. 24% of all injuries in football are concussions??? That can't be even remotely correct. Or is that 24% of injuries that cause someone to miss a game? I might could believe that.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 8, 2018 21:26:12 GMT -6
CS ****, That is true. No doubt. But you are now talking out both sides of your mouth. One minute it is all that stuff works and then when you get to week 11+ against great coaches, etc. So you better know what you are doing. The next minute, it is the team with the best athletes. Also, while Saban is the best coach in the land - no doubt in my mind, and possibly the best ever, the BEST thing he does is recruit. He always has the best players and deepest team. Maybe we shouldn't be listening to him. Scheme matters. Exectution matters more. Players matter even more. And some coaches are so damn smart, they know when not to outscheme themselves by trying to outscheme the other team and be in the perfect play call. They use their talent and execution and don't worry about a 5 yard hitch or 5 yard rpo that they know the other team isn't going to beat them with consistently. We shouldn't be listening to Saban because he recruits?? Do we really want to qualify who we should listen to? If yo have a state ship maybe ship maybe we should stop listening to those people as well? Whhat if you said # of scholarship quality athletes? You totally missed my sarcasm.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 8, 2018 12:57:59 GMT -6
Machine is better. The key is cleaning it thoroughly when done.
The marking kits are great. But can be very difficult to hammer in the ground. If tough, wait for a huge rain storm and go immediately after to hammer in wet ground.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 7, 2018 16:20:03 GMT -6
Anything that came out of Knoxville,TN the past 5 years. "Champions of Life" "Five Star Hearts" "Leadership Reps" ugh...I never even heard the term "leadership reps" and it killed a little bit of my soul when I read it PJ Fleck I have an irrational hatred for...he seems like the type of dude that would tell everybody's girlfriends/wives what they did at a bachelor party because he is their friend too and feels like it was the right thing to do I frequent the message boards of a few different schools in the SEC (Texas A&M and LSU mostly) just to kill time and get a college fb fix, and you have no idea how hard up some of their fans were to try and get fleck hired "we this kind of passion man!..look at him! he's running around saying big quotes and there's inspiring music and players are all crying and stuff" the kind of people who like fleck are the ones that love it when the staff development speaker does that stupid "oooooh I think we can do better that THAT!...I SAID GOOD MORNING TEACHERS!!"...and the fleck lovers are the ones who whoop and holler and crap pretending to not be pissed that school is about to start and we are in the stupid meetings fleck lovers are people who are on their 3rd or fourth pyramid scheme even though they never made any money still thinking that this is their big chance to be their own boss and drive a dodge stratus if only they bring enough positive attitude and doggone enthusiasm! there is no escape So you row the boat, eh?
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Post by silkyice on Jul 7, 2018 7:04:04 GMT -6
Did one a few years back. Two team vs the other two. Say team A and B are on one team. Team C and D are on the other. 1st quarter, A plays offense and B plays defense for their team. C plays offense and D plays defense for their team. So team A has the ball vs team D defense. When the change possesion, team B plays defense vs team C offense. Positive points. Cool to combine with another team on the sideline. Good to be able go only every other series, so that you can rest and coach up. Conditioning isn’t a factor. Negative points. You are only playing one half of offense and defense total. Tough to get everyone in meaningful minutes. that is a very interesting format. How did you work it so you were able to evaluate everyone? I know you mention conditioning isn't a factor, do you think this hurts or helps you as you get ready for week 1? Made sure everyone got in, but we had a small roster that year. We usually don’t do scrimmage games before our first game, so for us, it didn’t hurt. It was an enjoyable experience. But not sure it is the “best” way, but it wasn’t a “bad” way to do it.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 20:39:39 GMT -6
Did one a few years back. Two team vs the other two.
Say team A and B are on one team. Team C and D are on the other.
1st quarter, A plays offense and B plays defense for their team. C plays offense and D plays defense for their team.
So team A has the ball vs team D defense. When the change possesion, team B plays defense vs team C offense.
Positive points. Cool to combine with another team on the sideline. Good to be able go only every other series, so that you can rest and coach up. Conditioning isn’t a factor.
Negative points. You are only playing one half of offense and defense total. Tough to get everyone in meaningful minutes.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 20:19:10 GMT -6
Coach, I understand what you are saying 100%. And you are 100% right. Do you not understand what my point was at all? Was there not maybe 1% of truth in it? I get what you’re saying and agree somewhat but I’m not sure you understand what their argument was. The fact that bama can play 2 high is because they have bada$$es and they will play man match quarters to it which most high school teams aren’t. What was trying to be argued was that zone match 2 read isn’t good against RPO which is correct if you play 2 read rules and not bastardized rules. I’m not saying your wrong coach just that you’re not arguing the right problem I haven’t argued scheme at all on this thread. My point was you can’t argue scheme is most important and then argue the teams that win are the ones with the best players when someone wins with a scheme you dont approve of. Y’all are just picking and choosing which is most important based on your opinion of the situation.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 20:04:27 GMT -6
Coach, I understand what you are saying 100%. And you are 100% right. Do you not understand what my point was at all? Was there not maybe 1% of truth in it? Those coaches think just because they are aligned 2 high they're automatically playing full field 2 read. That's not what Saban is doing. The man says in the video how he hates Clamp (2 read) but everybody sees them line up 2 high and still think "they're running what we're running". No buddy. No, they are not. They are running a world of football you don't know exists (seriously). And I would be willing to teach it to you (like I have many on here) but you act like an arrogant dumbass, so I'm going to treat you like an arrogant dumbass. Best athletes usually best scheme. Why do you think there are HS teams that can run 2 man every single down and churn out state championships? They have 8 D1 kids and future HOFs on defense. It doesn't matter what they do (until they play a competent offense with 8 D1 kids, now they have a serious problem). Saban has the best athletes, the best scheme, the best coaches, etc. That's why they have 5 NC in 9 years. He takes the theory of 'best athletes = simple schemes' and pisses all over it. He's running NFL schemes most college guys don't even understand. Hugh Freeze must be one smart dude!! And I am impressed that you understand stuff that SEC coaches don’t even understand. And no, you did not understand my point at all.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 19:40:33 GMT -6
I understand and you are 100% correct. But... One minute, you can't play that. Then someone shows how they or OMG, Bama, was aligned similarly and it worked, and then it is well athletes win games. Just saying... I’m saying athletes win games in a sense but doing things correctly is more important because we don’t all have the best athletes. If you do things correctly you can beat the teams that are equal to or slightly better than you if they don’t. If they are just flat out better athletically in every way then if doesn’t fuking matter what you do Edit: also he didn’t show what the discussion was talking about so that’s a moot point Coach, I understand what you are saying 100%. And you are 100% right. Do you not understand what my point was at all? Was there not maybe 1% of truth in it?
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 19:06:59 GMT -6
CS ****, That is true. No doubt. But you are now talking out both sides of your mouth. One minute it is all that stuff works and then when you get to week 11+ against great coaches, etc. So you better know what you are doing. The next minute, it is the team with the best athletes. Also, while Saban is the best coach in the land - no doubt in my mind, and possibly the best ever, the BEST thing he does is recruit. He always has the best players and deepest team. Maybe we shouldn't be listening to him. Scheme matters. Exectution matters more. Players matter even more. And some coaches are so damn smart, they know when not to outscheme themselves by trying to outscheme the other team and be in the perfect play call. They use their talent and execution and don't worry about a 5 yard hitch or 5 yard rpo that they know the other team isn't going to beat them with consistently. I don’t see it as talking out of both sides of my mouth at all. More of a cautionary tale that you can be successful with great players but you of all people should know that development and putting players in a position to win is important especially deep in the playoffs. What I’m saying is that we really only have to worry about 1 team in our conference. The playoffs are our real season and we meet teams with really good players and really good coaches and that “it works for us” bastardized coverages don’t work with teams that know what they’re doing I understand and you are 100% correct. But... One minute, you can't play that. Then someone shows how they or OMG, Bama, was aligned similarly and it worked, and then it is well athletes win games. Just saying...
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 18:52:36 GMT -6
Winning state doesn’t make you schematically right. It just means you won a state title Usually means you have the best dudes in the state. Not schematics. CS ****, That is true. No doubt. But you are now talking out both sides of your mouth. One minute it is all that stuff works and then when you get to week 11+ against great coaches, etc. So you better know what you are doing. The next minute, it is the team with the best athletes. Also, while Saban is the best coach in the land - no doubt in my mind, and possibly the best ever, the BEST thing he does is recruit. He always has the best players and deepest team. Maybe we shouldn't be listening to him. Scheme matters. Exectution matters more. Players matter even more. And some coaches are so damn smart, they know when not to outscheme themselves by trying to outscheme the other team and be in the perfect play call. They use their talent and execution and don't worry about a 5 yard hitch or 5 yard rpo that they know the other team isn't going to beat them with consistently.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 18:35:42 GMT -6
I think that is absolutely the best way to understand it. Cover 1 until someone CALLS under. I do realize that they could flood the coverage vs a fast 3. Everyone can listen (5 minutes) from Saban's own mouth here: Just listen. The video does not correlate with the words. Ya at the 5-minute mark he's talking about 3 Mable and not rip/liz but I'm not gonna get into that. I'm sorry. I meant the video was only about 5 minutes of audio, so it is a short video to listen to. Not that he is talking about rip/liz at the 5-minute mark. I should have been more clear.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 17:41:04 GMT -6
Nailed it. Actually that probably isn’t nail, but box and against bunch it is bingo. That’s funny, I don’t care who you are. Do you still think Rip/Liz is cover 1 until somebody runs under? I think that is absolutely the best way to understand it. Cover 1 until someone CALLS under. I do realize that they could flood the coverage vs a fast 3. Everyone can listen (5 minutes) from Saban's own mouth here: Just listen. The video does not correlate with the words.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 16:16:59 GMT -6
REgarding the ongoing thread the OP is probably referencing, I have a slightly different perspective. I am enjoying reading the whiteboard war, I just think that often coaches are just not doing a good job explaining things or presenting their side. I also think (and commented) that lots of the bickering stems from lingo. There is an undertone in that particular thread of when someone explains how they play "x" the counter argument is "no, that is not "x" that is "y" Nailed it. Actually that probably isn’t nail, but box and against bunch it is bingo. That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 6, 2018 10:13:03 GMT -6
Every thread seems like it’s turning into “you can’t do this vs. this!” or “that doesn’t work!” types of pissing matches and I’m sick of it. To be frank, I don’t really care what defense Nick Saban runs on 3rd & Medium on the right hash against a 2x2 set. This site is meant for HIGH SCHOOL OR YOUTH COACHES to get better. Not to bicker about some miniscule difference in a collegiate coverage that 99% of high school teams will never run. It’s gotten to the point where I’m finding myself scrolling through threads from 2015 when I wanna learn something. I’m really missing some of the great posters this forum used to have, like Lochness or OJW. 2015? You are phuked!! That will never work! Only February 2014 when 3rd and medium on the right hash!!!
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Post by silkyice on Jul 3, 2018 23:57:45 GMT -6
Not really coach speak but more clinic talk / experience. Drives me NUTS when you listen to a guy giving a clinic and he says "My guys are no different from your guys, just average HS kids and blah..blah" then puts the tape on and the '85 Bears pi$$ themselves a little. I know many of these teams are still well coached but the tagline of we have guys just like everybody else when you don't annoys me. Nothing wrong w/ having talent. When we're up I say it. Ain't takin' credit for all the wins nor blame for all the losses. Once heard the De La Salle DC, Eidson tell an entire room “We have the same guys you do” during his clinic talk. R u kidding me! The arrogance of that statement is off the charts
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Post by silkyice on Jul 2, 2018 11:09:16 GMT -6
Double post
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Post by silkyice on Jul 2, 2018 11:05:54 GMT -6
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over amd over but expecting different results.”
While I actually really like this quote and there is a ton of truth in it, it can't be applied to everything and every situation in football.
Two years ago we were in the wing t and doing the same weight program. Had a rare down year. Someone could apply that quote and say that we better change offense, defense, strength program, etc. or we should just expect the same results. Nope, kept everything the same and made the semi’s last year, and have a legit shot at state this year if we stay healthy.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 1, 2018 18:32:45 GMT -6
This was 15 years ago, but heard a DC talk about being a bend but don’t break attacking defense. ?? He was just throwing all the buzz words around.
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Post by silkyice on Jun 30, 2018 20:25:16 GMT -6
Making these percentages up, but you will get the idea.
10% of the kids will work hard and buy in no matter what. A’s 15% want to work if you can show them or make them. B’s 50% you can influence one way or the other - average kid. C’s 15% don’t want to work, but might with the right motovation. D’s 10% won’t work just about no matter what. F’s
Get the A’s and B’s going! Influence the C’s!
Hopefully the D’s will see what is going on and join in.
Forget the F’s!
Turn the A’s into A+. B’s into A’s. C’s into B+’s and D’s into C+.
They only way to turn an average group into a great team is this!!
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Post by silkyice on Jun 30, 2018 20:17:49 GMT -6
The real solution is results.
Kids love results.
When their maxes go up, vertical goes up, 40 and 5/10/5 go down, you have them hooked.
It doesn’t take much!! We do two days a week. 5 lifts. 2 sets each (heck one lift can only be one set). Key is work hard and work consistently.
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Post by silkyice on Jun 28, 2018 14:59:34 GMT -6
Tue/Thu 930-12. 5 hours a week.
After July 4th we go to 1230 to add in conditioning and recovery. 6 hours a week.
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Post by silkyice on Jun 27, 2018 18:17:37 GMT -6
I’ll step up and do it. We workout on Tue and Thu during the summer. 930-12. Strength/speed/jump/agility training and then some football stuff. That is 5 hours total a week. If you are out of town (whatever the reason), you are excused as long as you told me beforehand. Workout is online so you can do it if you miss. Try and makeup lifting if you miss. Haven’t done a 7 on 7 in 8 years. Don’t start conditioning running until after July 4th week. Where do you coach? Tuscaloosa
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Post by silkyice on Jun 27, 2018 6:39:37 GMT -6
This in your first sentence lies the problem. Football is a freaking game. Games are meant to be fun. If a kid is not out there to have fun and for the fun of it, then what the heck are we all doing? TO GET OFFERS COACH!! (Obvious sarcasm) I’m with you. I’m shocked a coach just said “I don’t want a kid who is out there for the fun of it”. Hold on. Hold on. Any statement can be taken out of context. No one wants a kid who is out there JUST to laugh or JUST to goof off or JUST to play the games. Football has to be fun, but if all you do is fun is then you probably won’t win much or teach much, and then football WON’T be fun. There just is a balance. We want the kid that plays football because it is MORE than fun. Not JUST fun. The kid that sacrifices, works hard, has commitment, discipline, plays for pride, competetion, and his teammates, etc. I could go on all day. And where the satisfcation and joy of having been apart of it all outweighs the “fun”. Just saying don’t crucify someone for a comment on the internet because we all know what he really means. I think...
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Post by silkyice on Jun 26, 2018 13:26:30 GMT -6
We've really bought into the idea of "minimum effective dose" with our guys and are selling it everyday. I do think a lot of old school guys would rather lose than be outworked. Love it!
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