|
Post by brophy on Nov 17, 2007 9:27:35 GMT -6
while I agree that, hey, you don't have to be frightened of 4th down, but from Sun Tzu to Napoleon to Parcells...........the maxim of; "To win (the game), first you must NOT LOSE the game" It is a heckuva lot easier to lose games going for it on 4th down, than it is to win them
|
|
|
Post by wildcat on Nov 17, 2007 10:14:09 GMT -6
while I agree that, hey, you don't have to be frightened of 4th down, but from Sun Tzu to Napoleon to Parcells...........the maxim of; "To win (the game), first you must NOT LOSE the game" It is a heckuva lot easier to lose games going for it on 4th down, than it is to win them No doubt...in fact, going for it on 4th Down is often the "easy" choice...sometimes, it takes a lot of balls to kick a field goal or punt on 4th Down late in a game when you are down. A good example I can think of is the Alabama-Arkansas game from earlier this season...Saban goes for it on 4th Down late in the 4th Quarter instead of kicking that field goal, Alabama probably doesn't win that game.
|
|
|
Post by vassdiddy on Nov 17, 2007 10:34:20 GMT -6
I don't know, I think deciding on whether to punt or not is more of a gut feeling. If I have not moved the ball on the first three downs efficiently both running and passing, what makes you think I am going to move it on one down?
IMO, I don't want to have a chart that says from here, you go here. Because sometimes you are feeling good about your O and sometimes you aren't.
All I know, is Mumme's philosophy on punting is very interesting, and I may adopt it next year.
|
|
|
Post by CoachDaniel on Nov 17, 2007 19:36:45 GMT -6
You also have to consider your defense and their offense. Can they drive 80 yards on your defense? Are they going to score anyway regardless of where they're at? I do agree that the fake punt can often be more wide open than any offensive play.
I don't see how someone can have a set rule they use every game regardless of the opponent, flow of the game, etc. Punting is a part of the game that has its place. Why give up a play that can average 30-40 yards?
|
|
|
Post by guillaume on Nov 18, 2007 10:15:16 GMT -6
I noticed that if you go and follow the links for the author 2007 anti-punting column, he states the following for WHEN and WHERE to punt:
• Inside your own 20, punt.
• From your 21 to 35, go for it on fourth-and-2 or less.
• From your 36 to midfield, go for it on fourth-and-3 or less.
• From the opposition 49 to opposition 30, go for it on fourth-and-4 or less.
• From the opposition 29 to opposition 3, go for it on fourth-and-3 or less.
• From the opposition 2 or 1, go for it.
• Exception: inside the opponent's 25, attempt a field goal if it's the fourth quarter and a field goal causes a tie or gives you the lead.
|
|
tedseay
Sophomore Member
Posts: 165
|
Post by tedseay on Nov 20, 2007 13:36:04 GMT -6
I noticed that if you go and follow the links for the author 2007 anti-punting column, he states the following for WHEN and WHERE to punt: • Inside your own 20, punt. • From your 21 to 35, go for it on fourth-and-2 or less. • From your 36 to midfield, go for it on fourth-and-3 or less. • From the opposition 49 to opposition 30, go for it on fourth-and-4 or less. • From the opposition 29 to opposition 3, go for it on fourth-and-3 or less. • From the opposition 2 or 1, go for it. • Exception: inside the opponent's 25, attempt a field goal if it's the fourth quarter and a field goal causes a tie or gives you the lead. Guillaume: Does this make sense to you as a general guideline?
|
|