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Post by chadavan on Nov 26, 2023 11:23:46 GMT -6
We can only make it to one or 2 clinics - which one(s) should be on our radar?
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Post by bluboy on Nov 26, 2023 11:50:12 GMT -6
IMHO, save your money and join Football Coaches Professional Growth Assoc. I think it costs $200.00, but you get access to an amazing number of videos that you can copy. I was a member years ago (late 90's) when we could not attend clinics. It was well worth the $100.00 it cost then.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 26, 2023 13:29:44 GMT -6
We can only make it to one or 2 clinics - which one(s) should be on our radar? How good is your staff? If you got some decent coaches, then clinic yourself. You might learn a lot of football, but you'll most definitely learn a lot about the guys you work with. How good are the teams around you? If you got some good 'uns, then invite them over for beverages and pizza. Most coaches just want to talk 'ball and are more than willing to share. I've put on a afternoon clinic before for the local folks and it was as good as anything you could get at a big city, just shorter. cqmiller puts on a big one that I wish I could have gone to before, and maybe one day I'll buy that plane ticket. Don't underestimate the resources you have right in front of you. Unless I've got to beat you to feed my family, I'll give you the keys to the kingdom.
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Post by realdawg on Nov 26, 2023 18:03:23 GMT -6
Southeast Wing T Clinic. For HS coaches. Mostly by HS coaches. I have been several times. And there is something for everyone. Traditional wing t room. Hybrid wing t room. Spread room. And defense room. Highly recommend it. Coach Holmes and his staff put it on. Great clinic.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 26, 2023 18:29:03 GMT -6
Southeast Wing T Clinic. For HS coaches. Mostly by HS coaches. I have been several times. And there is something for everyone. Traditional wing t room. Hybrid wing t room. Spread room. And defense room. Highly recommend it. Coach Holmes and his staff put it on. Great clinic. where that be
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Post by realdawg on Nov 26, 2023 18:55:14 GMT -6
Dublin Georgia. Hosted by Roger Holmes and staff from Dublin HS. He just released the dates for the 2024 clinic, March 8 and 9 I believe. Its about 4.5-5 hours from my school, so starting in upstate SC, you would cut off maybe 30 minutes of drive time.
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Post by spartan on Nov 26, 2023 20:07:52 GMT -6
I have been attend NDSU one these past few years. Been really good and you get to be on the field for a few practices.
I just can't get up for Glazier anymore. Same topics and guys pimping their systems they stole.
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Post by cqmiller on Nov 26, 2023 23:28:40 GMT -6
We will be doing the clinic again this year. I'll be getting info updated and out
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 27, 2023 8:41:15 GMT -6
I have been attend NDSU one these past few years. Been really good and you get to be on the field for a few practices. I just can't get up for Glazier anymore. Same topics and guys pimping their systems they stole. I absolutely loved Glaziers the first couple times I went. But, I realized after a couple years it was the same clinic every year, ever location. Same guys (although their names were different sometimes), same topics. And the hawking of stuff also annoyed me as well.
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Post by wolverine55 on Nov 27, 2023 9:17:57 GMT -6
I like having access to Glazier Drive, but as mentioned I've lost interest in actually attending a Glazier clinic in person. If location is no factor--or if we're just supplying good clinics for the good of the group--two I'll vouch for in Illinois are the Run the Gun Clinic hosted by Sacred Heart-Griffin in Springfield, IL and the Tri-State Clinic in Quincy, IL.
The Quincy clinic is normally early-to-Mid-March and used to be a Wing T delight but they've expanded topics recently. The Gun clinic used to be "invite only" but I'm not sure how hard it is to get on the list anymore.
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Post by center on Nov 27, 2023 9:30:02 GMT -6
Our head coach got us a membership to X&O labs website this offseason. I thought there were a lot of good items on there. Mostly from smaller colleges and high schools that you can relate to.
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 27, 2023 12:07:51 GMT -6
It all depends where you live and what you have access to. Where I live, if I could only attend two clinics I would attend Glazier and a clinic one of the local D3 colleges puts on yearly. Other than that I would visit with other high school and/or college coaches. The latter can be accomplished very easily and you don't all have to go to the same place at the same time.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Nov 27, 2023 12:17:13 GMT -6
I have been attend NDSU one these past few years. Been really good and you get to be on the field for a few practices. I just can't get up for Glazier anymore. Same topics and guys pimping their systems they stole. I submitted a speaker app for Glazier and never heard back. I even looked at the speaking list and they had openings in the 2 areas I suggested: and S&C topic and a program/culture topic. But I'm not backed by Russian bots on Twitter so I don't have the rub they want I'm assuming
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 27, 2023 12:52:00 GMT -6
I like having access to Glazier Drive, but as mentioned I've lost interest in actually attending a Glazier clinic in person. If location is no factor--or if we're just supplying good clinics for the good of the group--two I'll vouch for in Illinois are the Run the Gun Clinic hosted by Sacred Heart-Griffin in Springfield, IL and the Tri-State Clinic in Quincy, IL. The Quincy clinic is normally early-to-Mid-March and used to be a Wing T delight but they've expanded topics recently. The Gun clinic used to be "invite only" but I'm not sure how hard it is to get on the list anymore. Both are good. The Tri State one is ran by Camp Point HC Brad Dixon. It was very good the year I went. twitter.com/TriStateClinic
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 27, 2023 12:53:53 GMT -6
I have been attend NDSU one these past few years. Been really good and you get to be on the field for a few practices. I just can't get up for Glazier anymore. Same topics and guys pimping their systems they stole. I submitted a speaker app for Glazier and never heard back. I even looked at the speaking list and they had openings in the 2 areas I suggested: and S&C topic and a program/culture topic. But I'm not backed by Russian bots on Twitter so I don't have the rub they want I'm assuming I worked a couple years at the Glazier in St Louis. It was a great deal. Helped make sure the speakers were set up and got a free hotel room and clinic. Was really helpful those first couple years at my small school HC stop where we had no budget for a couple years.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Nov 27, 2023 13:25:11 GMT -6
The closest college to you or where you have a player going to college.
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Post by irishdog on Nov 27, 2023 13:27:20 GMT -6
Frankly, after spending most of my career (50 years) working in small schools (300-400 enrollments), most of the larger clinics (Glazier, Nike, Champion, etc.) didn't offer much in the way of speakers who would clinic on topics that dealt with the challenges of coaching in a small school. There would occasionally be a few guys from "small" (between 500 and 700 enrollments) schools but hardly ever found speakers from smaller schools. Eventually found a clinic in TX that focused on those smaller schools which I found to be invaluable, and would get to speak individually with those coaches who were more than willing to provide the time. From that point on my staff and I rarely attended one of the larger clinics.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Nov 28, 2023 10:15:59 GMT -6
Glazier is definitely the most bang for the buck... Understand some of the criticisms mentioned here but to be able to go to all the clinics they offer and access the drive its by far the most info for cheapest price
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 11:28:22 GMT -6
Anyone here going to any of the in-person Glazier clinics? First year coach here and got myself a pass. I'm going to the Kansas City clinic in February. Don't think anyone else on my staff is going besides me.
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Post by JoshC on Nov 28, 2023 11:35:16 GMT -6
Anyone here going to any of the in-person Glazier clinics? First year coach here and got myself a pass. I'm going to the Kansas City clinic in February. Don't think anyone else on my staff is going besides me. I'll be at Denver. It's a pretty big clinic with a good turnout. Great for networking and meeting with coaches. I'm looking for an out of state clinic as well though. Didn't see that KC has one.
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Post by wolverine55 on Nov 28, 2023 11:38:59 GMT -6
In the past, we've gone to the St. Louis one as we're in southeast Iowa, so it's an easy drive down. Haven't heard anything on this offseason. The only bad thing for me is that the weekend sometimes coincides with the last weekend of basketball season so it's hit or miss on if I can make it or not. We also normally buy the season pass.
As a young coach, I actually spent the money and went to an individual Glazier clinic by myself and still had a great time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 11:48:01 GMT -6
Anyone here going to any of the in-person Glazier clinics? First year coach here and got myself a pass. I'm going to the Kansas City clinic in February. Don't think anyone else on my staff is going besides me. I'll be at Denver. It's a pretty big clinic with a good turnout. Great for networking and meeting with coaches. I'm looking for an out of state clinic as well though. Didn't see that KC has one. Denver makes sense to hold one. Sounds like a great opportunity. There is a Dallas one that I know a lot of Oklahoma coaches go to. I'm closer to KC though, so it makes more sense to travel up.
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Post by Defcord on Nov 28, 2023 12:02:23 GMT -6
The major clinics are all pretty much the same. Glazier, Nike COY, etc. I don't feel like one is better than the other and most of it is just going to get the staff together and have a little fun plus hear some guys talk about stuff that may or may not apply to you.
A guy I worked with before would always set us up to go visit other staffs at schools similar size and demographics to us that had either turned it around or was a traditional winner. It was pretty cool because they would give us the grand tour. Let us see their facilities/weightroom. Give us insight to how the practiced and managed their roster. Sometimes we could talk to their admin about what they thought was important to them from the football program and how they supported it and kept the program strong. Sometimes after the school day was over we would have a few drinks and BS as well. It's a good way to do learn specific to your situation.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 28, 2023 13:17:51 GMT -6
Also, a reminder for the young bucks (and us old farts too), you should be spending half of your offseason time learning the other side of the ball.
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Post by coachjblair on Nov 28, 2023 13:20:05 GMT -6
Frankly, after spending most of my career (50 years) working in small schools (300-400 enrollments), most of the larger clinics (Glazier, Nike, Champion, etc.) didn't offer much in the way of speakers who would clinic on topics that dealt with the challenges of coaching in a small school. There would occasionally be a few guys from "small" (between 500 and 700 enrollments) schools but hardly ever found speakers from smaller schools. Eventually found a clinic in TX that focused on those smaller schools which I found to be invaluable, and would get to speak individually with those coaches who were more than willing to provide the time. From that point on my staff and I rarely attended one of the larger clinics. What clinic in Texas is that?
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Post by blb on Nov 28, 2023 13:58:31 GMT -6
Also, a reminder for the young bucks (and us old farts too), you should be spending half of your offseason time learning the other side of the ball. Not to mention Kicking Game. Which brings up a pet peeve of mine - Some HS coaches will spend a lot of time developing QBs, but none developing Punters, Place kickers, Deep Snappers. Would you just hope a good passer somehow shows up or you can't throw the ball? Same goes with other Specialists. Kicking is 1/3 of football. Breaks happen in the Kicking Game. You have to coach it as well as other two phases or risking losing there.
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Post by irishdog on Nov 28, 2023 22:29:19 GMT -6
Frankly, after spending most of my career (50 years) working in small schools (300-400 enrollments), most of the larger clinics (Glazier, Nike, Champion, etc.) didn't offer much in the way of speakers who would clinic on topics that dealt with the challenges of coaching in a small school. There would occasionally be a few guys from "small" (between 500 and 700 enrollments) schools but hardly ever found speakers from smaller schools. Eventually found a clinic in TX that focused on those smaller schools which I found to be invaluable, and would get to speak individually with those coaches who were more than willing to provide the time. From that point on my staff and I rarely attended one of the larger clinics. What clinic in Texas is that? Was held in Round Rock for a few years and ended in the mid-20teens.
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Post by chadavan on Nov 28, 2023 23:51:56 GMT -6
Anyone here going to any of the in-person Glazier clinics? First year coach here and got myself a pass. I'm going to the Kansas City clinic in February. Don't think anyone else on my staff is going besides me. Chicago for us - if we decide to go.
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 29, 2023 5:00:14 GMT -6
Also, a reminder for the young bucks (and us old farts too), you should be spending half of your offseason time learning the other side of the ball. Not to mention Kicking Game. Which brings up a pet peeve of mine - Some HS coaches will spend a lot of time developing QBs, but none developing Punters, Place kickers, Deep Snappers. Would you just hope a good passer somehow shows up or you can't throw the ball? Same goes with other Specialists. Kicking is 1/3 of football. Breaks happen in the Kicking Game. You have to coach it as well as other two phases or risking losing there. There are ways to get around not having a kicker or snapper though. There is no way to get around not having a competent QB.
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Post by lws55 on Nov 29, 2023 6:49:16 GMT -6
Also, a reminder for the young bucks (and us old farts too), you should be spending half of your offseason time learning the other side of the ball. Not to mention Kicking Game. Which brings up a pet peeve of mine - Some HS coaches will spend a lot of time developing QBs, but none developing Punters, Place kickers, Deep Snappers. Would you just hope a good passer somehow shows up or you can't throw the ball? Same goes with other Specialists. Kicking is 1/3 of football. Breaks happen in the Kicking Game. You have to coach it as well as other two phases or risking losing there. I always sent my kickers to a kicking camp. The program would pay for half of it and I made the kids bring me back a practice plan that would make them a better kicker. I never kicked, even for fun. My older son was a college soccer player and he couldn't kick a football. How am I going to coach that? I did, however, long snap in college so I do coach that aspect up. For the last 13 years I have taught every one of our long snappers.
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