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Post by 33coach on Sept 22, 2022 11:55:59 GMT -6
How are the officials gonna call to brothers from different schools calling each other the N word?  yeesh... ummm ...slurs and bad language arent the same thing....not remotely... |
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Post by aznando on Sept 22, 2022 18:43:07 GMT -6
But why is the F word so mystical and powerful that it gets special attention?
Your guess is as good as mine. An f-bomb gets a kid kicked out of school for a day here. Sh-t gets you a half-hour of detention.
Damn, how much do you get for a C Bomb? Aznando |
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Post by coachcb on Sept 23, 2022 8:24:21 GMT -6
Your guess is as good as mine. An f-bomb gets a kid kicked out of school for a day here. Sh-t gets you a half-hour of detention.
Damn, how much do you get for a C Bomb? Aznando That's considered sexual harassment so a 1-3 day suspension. |
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Post by CoachF on Sept 27, 2022 20:38:15 GMT -6
Ripped a kid for this last week. He was coming of the field F bombing right by a ref. Was upset and was going to walk right past me. I grabbed his shoulder pads and yelled at him…in hindsight shouldn’t have touched him or yelled really.
In my personal opinion; you shouldn’t do anything you’re telling your players not to - you’re the example. I try to not cuss but I do like a sailor outside of school and football. Hell, and damn come out a decent amount. I think I’ve said the F bomb a handful of times in 10 years.
As a teacher and coach….as it has been stated…your setting yourself up to get canned by doing it. That’s why after reading this thread I am resolving to giving up swearing.
I’ve been in different environments…but it is a lack of discipline and vocabulary to cuss. I am quitting.
I want to be able to coach hard and not have to leave because I was reprimanded for swearing. People will come after you for just about anything, and you need to protect yourself if you want to last.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 28, 2022 10:56:54 GMT -6
I’ve been in different environments…but it is a lack of discipline and vocabulary to cuss. I am quitting. how is it a lack of discipline? this is the cornerstone of my question. if i say "oh shoot!" yall know what i meant, and is that really any better? what makes it better? |
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Post by CanyonCoach on Sept 28, 2022 12:13:07 GMT -6
I’ve been in different environments…but it is a lack of discipline and vocabulary to cuss. I am quitting. how is it a lack of discipline? this is the cornerstone of my question. if i say "oh shoot!" yall know what i meant, and is that really any better? what makes it better? The difference is you get 15 yard penalties for one and nothing for the other.... |
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Post by 33coach on Sept 28, 2022 12:37:04 GMT -6
how is it a lack of discipline? this is the cornerstone of my question. if i say "oh shoot!" yall know what i meant, and is that really any better? what makes it better? The difference is you get 15 yard penalties for one and nothing for the other.... ive rarely seen that to be the case. HS refs (at least in the central section) dont give a "rats filthy behind" about "gosh darn swearin'" |
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 28, 2022 19:14:11 GMT -6
how is it a lack of discipline? this is the cornerstone of my question. if i say "oh shoot!" yall know what i meant, and is that really any better? what makes it better? The difference is you get 15 yard penalties for one and nothing for the other.... My only 15 yard penalty in 22 years of coaching came from calmly saying to the white hat "You guys are terrible". Penalties are not a good indicator of whether something is good or bad. |
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Post by agap on Sept 28, 2022 19:25:54 GMT -6
Ripped a kid for this last week. He was coming of the field F bombing right by a ref. Was upset and was going to walk right past me. I grabbed his shoulder pads and yelled at him…in hindsight shouldn’t have touched him or yelled really. In my personal opinion; you shouldn’t do anything you’re telling your players not to - you’re the example. I try to not cuss but I do like a sailor outside of school and football. Hell, and damn come out a decent amount. I think I’ve said the F bomb a handful of times in 10 years. As a teacher and coach….as it has been stated…your setting yourself up to get canned by doing it. That’s why after reading this thread I am resolving to giving up swearing. I’ve been in different environments…but it is a lack of discipline and vocabulary to cuss. I am quitting. I want to be able to coach hard and not have to leave because I was reprimanded for swearing. People will come after you for just about anything, and you need to protect yourself if you want to last. Didn't you just get fired a couple weeks ago? |
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 28, 2022 20:41:58 GMT -6
Ripped a kid for this last week. He was coming of the field F bombing right by a ref. Was upset and was going to walk right past me. I grabbed his shoulder pads and yelled at him…in hindsight shouldn’t have touched him or yelled really. In my personal opinion; you shouldn’t do anything you’re telling your players not to - you’re the example. I try to not cuss but I do like a sailor outside of school and football. Hell, and damn come out a decent amount. I think I’ve said the F bomb a handful of times in 10 years. As a teacher and coach….as it has been stated…your setting yourself up to get canned by doing it. That’s why after reading this thread I am resolving to giving up swearing. I’ve been in different environments…but it is a lack of discipline and vocabulary to cuss. I am quitting. I want to be able to coach hard and not have to leave because I was reprimanded for swearing. People will come after you for just about anything, and you need to protect yourself if you want to last. Didn't you just get fired a couple weeks ago? Excuse me? |
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Post by agap on Sept 28, 2022 21:04:43 GMT -6
Didn't you just get fired a couple weeks ago? Excuse me? I saw Coach Frost and thought of Scott Frost. Bad joke but I thought it was funny. |
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Post by tripsclosed on Sept 28, 2022 21:08:00 GMT -6
Ripped a kid for this last week. He was coming of the field F bombing right by a ref. Was upset and was going to walk right past me. I grabbed his shoulder pads and yelled at him…in hindsight shouldn’t have touched him or yelled really. In my personal opinion; you shouldn’t do anything you’re telling your players not to - you’re the example. I try to not cuss but I do like a sailor outside of school and football. Hell, and damn come out a decent amount. I think I’ve said the F bomb a handful of times in 10 years. As a teacher and coach….as it has been stated…your setting yourself up to get canned by doing it. That’s why after reading this thread I am resolving to giving up swearing. I’ve been in different environments…but it is a lack of discipline and vocabulary to cuss. I am quitting. I want to be able to coach hard and not have to leave because I was reprimanded for swearing. People will come after you for just about anything, and you need to protect yourself if you want to last. Didn't you just get fired a couple weeks ago? 😄 |
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 28, 2022 22:39:03 GMT -6
Hate to say it but I'm good for maybe a half dozen F-bombs a year.
The most recent one was a kid that I really love hits our QB while he's releasing the ball and hurts the QB's finger, then says, "Oh, sorry..." and I exploded with "F*** being sorry! Don't do it in the first place!" Not great coaching. This group has gotten more blow-ups from me than any other group, which has really highlighted that I need to work on being in control of my emotions at times.
That said, I don't swear conversationally and I correct kids that are needlessly profane, but sometimes it slips and I think that's ok. I'm human and my kids see that. They also see me belt out several dozen "GODDANGIT" a year, I use friggin' plenty, and I'll visibly count to 10 when I need it.
I'm not perfect and I won't ever be, but they see me trying to be my best and that's plenty.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 29, 2022 6:30:40 GMT -6
I saw Coach Frost and thought of Scott Frost. Bad joke but I thought it was funny. Gotcha |
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Post by Defcord on Sept 29, 2022 6:39:06 GMT -6
When I am on the field I really am not too bad cursing. I never yell a cuss word at a kid, never. I try to not cuss at all when frustrated and generally do a pretty good job. I mostly slip in a word here or there to be funny. When the timing is right, you can set the whole mood of practice or game in a good way with a well timed cuss word.
In the press box...well it's a different world. I would make a sailor blush. First thing I do after loading the film to hudl is to delete the original copy with sound.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 29, 2022 6:40:59 GMT -6
When I am on the field I really am not too bad cursing. I never yell a cuss word at a kid, never. I try to not cuss at all when frustrated and generally do a pretty good job. I mostly slip in a word here or there to be funny. When the timing is right, you can set the whole mood of practice or game in a good way with a well timed cuss word. In the press box...well it's a different world. I would make a sailor blush. First thing I do after loading the film to hudl is to delete the original copy with sound. I always liked hooking up the camera to the DVD player/computer myself because I would ensure the sound never got plugged in. |
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Post by coachholmvik on Oct 2, 2022 7:38:44 GMT -6
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Post by CanyonCoach on Oct 3, 2022 6:32:56 GMT -6
We got a 15 yarder for F yeah Friday night after a TD...set up a nice return for them.
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Post by mariner42 on Oct 4, 2022 22:46:16 GMT -6
We got a 15 yarder for F yeah Friday night after a TD...set up a nice return for them. F*** that. |
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Post by CanyonCoach on Oct 5, 2022 7:09:35 GMT -6
We got a 15 yarder for F yeah Friday night after a TD...set up a nice return for them. F*** that. Welcome to our world. |
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Post by brettdj on Oct 5, 2022 13:22:39 GMT -6
How are the officials gonna call to brothers from different schools calling each other the N word? My district that is an ejection from that game and player will miss at least 1 more game, even if on the same team. Twice and the player is dismissed from all sports in high school. |
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Post by coachscdub on Oct 7, 2022 10:52:33 GMT -6
Probably going to catch some flack for this but i figured i'd give an honest answer.
I allow kids to curse during practice, i curse during practice, but it comes with a caveat, I make it clear we dont curse at each other, so no MF'ing anyone. I dont curse at kids, and i dont allow them to curse at anyone else.
The football field, more specifically the practice field is an isolated area, i want kids to be themselves and accomplish our goals for practice, if they curse because they messed up it doesnt bother me in the slightest.
I do make sure to let them know that on the field just like in life location and surroundings matter, if the principal is on the field, not a good time, if there are little kids with their parents on the track, not a good time, etc.
I also let them know that they cant curse on the field during games. I always make sure to tell them "Who hates curse words? old white guys, and who refs our games? old white guys". I've never had an issue with it, kids understand it and usually get a little laugh out of that.
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Post by carookie on Oct 7, 2022 13:29:14 GMT -6
Probably going to catch some flack for this but i figured i'd give an honest answer. I allow kids to curse during practice, i curse during practice, but it comes with a caveat, I make it clear we dont curse at each other, so no MF'ing anyone. I dont curse at kids, and i dont allow them to curse at anyone else. The football field, more specifically the practice field is an isolated area, i want kids to be themselves and accomplish our goals for practice, if they curse because they messed up it doesnt bother me in the slightest. I do make sure to let them know that on the field just like in life location and surroundings matter, if the principal is on the field, not a good time, if there are little kids with their parents on the track, not a good time, etc. I also let them know that they cant curse on the field during games. I always make sure to tell them "Who hates curse words? old white guys, and who refs our games? old white guys". I've never had an issue with it, kids understand it and usually get a little laugh out of that. Does the admin know of this policy? I've worked with some admin where things of this nature- tell kids to act a certain way for parents and admin, but then act a different way when they are not around, would be frowned upon. It would be seen as duplicitous and aiming to deceive the parents and administration. I'm not writing you are, and if it works for you more power to you. I just think thats something that could ruffle the feathers of some admin. Also, and Im not trying to be the woke police here (or play the bothsiding aspect) but has the 'old White guy' comment ever led to problems? Not so much from white people, but from people of color taking it as you implying they use vulgarity more often and are somehow less refined. |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Oct 7, 2022 14:49:03 GMT -6
How are the officials gonna call to brothers from different schools calling each other the N word? My district that is an ejection from that game and player will miss at least 1 more game, even if on the same team. Twice and the player is dismissed from all sports in high school. I am super anti- N word. Will never say it. Will never associate myself with non-black people who say it. I do, however, find it tough to tell black players not to say it to one another. IMO There’s a lot of education that is needed for educators in this particular area. |
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Post by carookie on Oct 7, 2022 14:54:27 GMT -6
My district that is an ejection from that game and player will miss at least 1 more game, even if on the same team. Twice and the player is dismissed from all sports in high school. I am super anti- N word. Will never say it. Will never associate myself with non-black people who say it. I do, however, find it tough to tell black players not to say it to one another. IMO There’s a lot of education that is needed for educators in this particular area. I get what you are writing, but I think it would be hard for an official to not eject a player for an action based on race, while ejecting another for the same action. That would lead to a sh*t storm (if the refs articulated out that they will allow that) |
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Post by blb on Oct 7, 2022 15:14:50 GMT -6
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Post by coachscdub on Oct 7, 2022 18:13:06 GMT -6
Probably going to catch some flack for this but i figured i'd give an honest answer. I allow kids to curse during practice, i curse during practice, but it comes with a caveat, I make it clear we dont curse at each other, so no MF'ing anyone. I dont curse at kids, and i dont allow them to curse at anyone else. The football field, more specifically the practice field is an isolated area, i want kids to be themselves and accomplish our goals for practice, if they curse because they messed up it doesnt bother me in the slightest. I do make sure to let them know that on the field just like in life location and surroundings matter, if the principal is on the field, not a good time, if there are little kids with their parents on the track, not a good time, etc. I also let them know that they cant curse on the field during games. I always make sure to tell them "Who hates curse words? old white guys, and who refs our games? old white guys". I've never had an issue with it, kids understand it and usually get a little laugh out of that. Does the admin know of this policy? I've worked with some admin where things of this nature- tell kids to act a certain way for parents and admin, but then act a different way when they are not around, would be frowned upon. It would be seen as duplicitous and aiming to deceive the parents and administration. I'm not writing you are, and if it works for you more power to you. I just think thats something that could ruffle the feathers of some admin. Also, and Im not trying to be the woke police here (or play the bothsiding aspect) but has the 'old White guy' comment ever led to problems? Not so much from white people, but from people of color taking it as you implying they use vulgarity more often and are somehow less refined. No they are not aware, i've also never worked at a high school that i coached at. And i see what you're saying, but i've never had that issue thankfully, I really made it clear "what you say around me and what you say around others are going to be received differently". And no I've never heard any backlash on that. |
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 18, 2022 15:58:58 GMT -6
I don't think it is the best way to communicate my displeasure on the field.
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Post by brandongregory74 on Oct 21, 2022 8:20:08 GMT -6
Probably going to catch some flack for this but i figured i'd give an honest answer. I allow kids to curse during practice, i curse during practice, but it comes with a caveat, I make it clear we dont curse at each other, so no MF'ing anyone. I dont curse at kids, and i dont allow them to curse at anyone else. The football field, more specifically the practice field is an isolated area, i want kids to be themselves and accomplish our goals for practice, if they curse because they messed up it doesnt bother me in the slightest. I do make sure to let them know that on the field just like in life location and surroundings matter, if the principal is on the field, not a good time, if there are little kids with their parents on the track, not a good time, etc. I also let them know that they cant curse on the field during games. I always make sure to tell them "Who hates curse words? old white guys, and who refs our games? old white guys". I've never had an issue with it, kids understand it and usually get a little laugh out of that. Does the admin know of this policy? I've worked with some admin where things of this nature- tell kids to act a certain way for parents and admin, but then act a different way when they are not around, would be frowned upon. It would be seen as duplicitous and aiming to deceive the parents and administration. I'm not writing you are, and if it works for you more power to you. I just think thats something that could ruffle the feathers of some admin. Also, and Im not trying to be the woke police here (or play the bothsiding aspect) but has the 'old White guy' comment ever led to problems? Not so much from white people, but from people of color taking it as you implying they use vulgarity more often and are somehow less refined. No offense, but I am glad I don't coach where you do. I'd go nuts just trying to figure out who was looking to be offended. Where we are, he isn't wrong. Old white guys mostly officiate our games as well. We have admin that allows us to be ourselves and if a kid needs an ass chewing he can get it as long as you don't make physical contact. Words only hurt if you let them. |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 31, 2022 13:39:59 GMT -6
We had the protestant REFormation here for a year. F word was a 15y, 2nd was ejection of the coach or something. Could get you bumped from playoffs over the damn F word.
I think swearing with is different than swearing at someone. We have so many issues in life to worry about that swearing shouldn't be one. Then again, don't give someone a reason to fire you.
I always swore at practice but not games (at least not audibly). Context is always king.
Being at a private S&C facility now = I can say the bad-bad words and not get a scolding. I say a lot less swears in private S&C than I did with football. I think I was just miserable coaching football / football players are more annoying than other athletes.
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