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Post by 19delta on Jan 15, 2022 17:41:50 GMT -6
Look...we aren't working in a coal mine. This crap is ridiculous. Suck it up. Get your a$$ to work, and do your job:  ibb.co/n8y2XDx |
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Post by CS on Jan 15, 2022 17:58:39 GMT -6
Yeah I get what you’re saying. Everyone has a sob story but also it is way harder right now than it has been in the past. One positive about all the contact tracing quarantines is we no longer get sh!t about the act aspire because one positive is like a grenade in your class room
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 18:34:01 GMT -6
The politicization of everything….isnt it great! (Throwing up on my keyboard)
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 15, 2022 18:41:41 GMT -6
Look...we aren't working in a coal mine. This crap is ridiculous. Suck it up. Get your a$$ to work, and do your job: ibb.co/n8y2XDxI agree it is a bit overdramatic, however I will say that my school just had 22 employee absences due to sickness/policy. 15 were classroom teachers - 2 Substitutes came. 8 of those classes were covered by para educators (meaning their special education students did not receive the support/services) and 5 classes were split, adding about 3 additional students to each of the remaining classes. Fortunately, the district had the manpower to still do their teacher evaluation observations on 3 of those teachers who were present. So that is good. |
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Post by Mark Calaway on Jan 15, 2022 19:07:39 GMT -6
Look...we aren't working in a coal mine. This crap is ridiculous. Suck it up. Get your a$$ to work, and do your job: ibb.co/n8y2XDx100% Agree! |
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Post by CS on Jan 15, 2022 19:16:36 GMT -6
Look...we aren't working in a coal mine. This crap is ridiculous. Suck it up. Get your a$$ to work, and do your job: ibb.co/n8y2XDxI agree it is a bit overdramatic, however I will say that my school just had 22 employee absences due to sickness/policy. 15 were classroom teachers - 2 Substitutes came. 8 of those classes were covered by para educators (meaning their special education students did not receive the support/services) and 5 classes were split, adding about 3 additional students to each of the remaining classes. Fortunately, the district had the manpower to still do their teacher evaluation observations on 3 of those teachers who were present. So that is good. 😂 they did observations??? |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 15, 2022 19:25:16 GMT -6
I agree it is a bit overdramatic, however I will say that my school just had 22 employee absences due to sickness/policy. 15 were classroom teachers - 2 Substitutes came. 8 of those classes were covered by para educators (meaning their special education students did not receive the support/services) and 5 classes were split, adding about 3 additional students to each of the remaining classes. Fortunately, the district had the manpower to still do their teacher evaluation observations on 3 of those teachers who were present. So that is good. 😂 they did observations??? Sadly, delta's mantra : "Suck it up, get to work, do your job" cuts a few different ways. Another headbanging frustration... "the curriculum must continue!!!!". No thoughts of saying "Hey, this is a great time for review...no new instruction for 2 weeks during this period of high absenteeism (both teacher and student). Lets review, review, review". NOPE..we must push on. It is a fairly large and diverse district (35,000 students, 57 schools) --there are highly qualified teachers who left the classroom to be "coaches" (not athletic) and curriculum specialists. Instead of being used in student contact roles (teachers/subs etc.) they are leading from the front by continuing to tell the rank and file what they are doing wrong and what they should be doing daily. So, from that standpoint, I would side with the teachers in the picture over others. I wouldn't necessarily agree with them, but I would side with them over the other side of the argument. |
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Post by silkyice on Jan 15, 2022 19:48:16 GMT -6
Look...we aren't working in a coal mine. This crap is ridiculous. Suck it up. Get your a$$ to work, and do your job: ibb.co/n8y2XDxFortunately, the district had the manpower to still do their teacher evaluation observations on 3 of those teachers who were present. So that is good. Jeez |
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Post by fantom on Jan 15, 2022 21:37:37 GMT -6
All I can say is that I'm happy to be retired.
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Jan 15, 2022 22:04:38 GMT -6
I agree it is a bit overdramatic, however I will say that my school just had 22 employee absences due to sickness/policy. 15 were classroom teachers - 2 Substitutes came. 8 of those classes were covered by para educators (meaning their special education students did not receive the support/services) and 5 classes were split, adding about 3 additional students to each of the remaining classes. Fortunately, the district had the manpower to still do their teacher evaluation observations on 3 of those teachers who were present. So that is good. 😂 they did observations??? We got emails about it and everything |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 15, 2022 22:38:29 GMT -6
😂 they did observations??? We got emails about it and everything Your district too? |
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Post by coachkeating33 on Jan 16, 2022 1:00:30 GMT -6
every day I walk into school i thank God I am needed....
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Post by Defcord on Jan 16, 2022 2:54:20 GMT -6
I’m on the side of teachers. I am really kind of surprised more teachers aren’t using the current situation coupled with an on coming massive teacher shortage to leverage much better pay.
Work conditions are far worse than they have ever been and we are being asked to forge ahead. And we should. But with the ridiculous amounts of money being thrown at schools for COVID from both state and federal governments, there’s no reason teachers shouldn’t get some of it.
I agree we aren’t working in a coal mine, but we should be smart about how we proceed through this situation professionally, especially in states that don’t compensate teachers well.
I am in Georgia and get paid very well so I’m not complaining. But I have friends in Indiana that haven’t had step pays in 8 years.
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Post by CS on Jan 16, 2022 5:12:32 GMT -6
We shut down last week because we had too many teachers out and not enough subs. We had tons of kids just sitting in the cafe and gym. Luckily our admin were busy watching the kids instead of doing observations 😂
I think most of the drama comes from the fact that teachers are finally getting some sympathy after years of being the scapegoat for the lack of success in our public school system.
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Post by coachscdub on Jan 16, 2022 5:20:53 GMT -6
Look...we aren't working in a coal mine. This crap is ridiculous. Suck it up. Get your a$$ to work, and do your job: ibb.co/n8y2XDxDoesnt seem "that awful" i've definitely heard whinier, not a huge fan of the "Teachers are Rockstars" line. Should point out i'm not a teacher yet, i'm doing my student teaching this semester, additionally all i want is for my school to go online so maybe i'm biased. |
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Post by realdawg on Jan 16, 2022 6:01:28 GMT -6
Online instruction sucks....been there, done that, it doesnt work...... Even with all the technology we now have, instruction needs to be face to face.
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Post by option1 on Jan 16, 2022 6:47:44 GMT -6
Online instruction sucks....been there, done that, it doesnt work...... Even with all the technology we now have, instruction needs to be face to face. IMO it's all the same for those that can/will. Our data says that students grades were consistent during quarantine. Meaning slaps are slaps and scholars are scholars. We could fix all this if the legal working age was 13... |
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Post by realdawg on Jan 16, 2022 6:50:20 GMT -6
I disagree....as a whole our grades as a team are much better in school than they were when we were remote.
There are kids who will do no matter what.
There are kids that wont do no matter what.
Then there are kids that will do as long as you push them to and stand over there shoulder. You cant do that virtually.
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Post by Defcord on Jan 16, 2022 7:31:20 GMT -6
Online instruction sucks....been there, done that, it doesnt work...... Even with all the technology we now have, instruction needs to be face to face. IMO it's all the same for those that can/will. Our data says that students grades were consistent during quarantine. Meaning slaps are slaps and scholars are scholars. We could fix all this if the legal working age was 13... My son has straight 100s in every class but hates school. He would drop out right now if he could get a job and I would let him. I think if they made a rule that if you failed a class parents had to pay to retake it things would change quickly. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 16, 2022 7:32:04 GMT -6
I just spent the night making the prisons food, dishing it out, delivering it, cleaning up the trays and then washing them. I took 8000 steps from 3am to 7am. We currently have 25 positive staff members and unknown (at least to the people I worked with last night) for contact BS. We only employ about 200 total.
As a former teacher of 22 years, and a worker of various physical labor jobs- Yes, suck it up. As a whole, teachers are the biggest {censored} on earth about actually having to work.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 16, 2022 7:33:41 GMT -6
We shut down last week because we had too many teachers out and not enough subs. We had tons of kids just sitting in the cafe and gym. Luckily our admin were busy watching the kids instead of doing observations 😂 I think most of the drama comes from the fact that teachers are finally getting some sympathy after years of being the scapegoat for the lack of success in our public school system. I also think a great deal of the current strife comes from the fact that the last 2 years have shown that the academic role of the public school system in the U.S. has taken a back seat to the child care/social welfare role. In the last 45 years, the lack of stay at home parents has exponentially increased this role. The public doesn't really care about academic growth, student learning targets, etc, being on level, proficiency etc. The public cares about having to stay home with their child because they are in a financial situation where it is not easy to handle shutdowns. But, the system is still monitored and judged by the academic role. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 16, 2022 7:35:09 GMT -6
I just spent the night making the prisons food, dishing it out, delivering it, cleaning up the trays and then washing them. I took 8000 steps from 3am to 7am. As a former teacher of 22 years, and a worker of various physical labor jobs- Yes, suck it up. As a whole, teachers are the biggest {censored} on earth about actually having to work. I average 17,000 steps 7:45-3:15 a day in an elementary school. Sounds like you are lounging around a lot and whining a bit much...  |
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 16, 2022 7:38:39 GMT -6
I just spent the night making the prisons food, dishing it out, delivering it, cleaning up the trays and then washing them. I took 8000 steps from 3am to 7am. As a former teacher of 22 years, and a worker of various physical labor jobs- Yes, suck it up. As a whole, teachers are the biggest {censored} on earth about actually having to work. I average 17,000 steps 7:45-3:15 a day in an elementary school. Sounds like you are lounging around a lot and whining a bit much... I get the sarcasm, but if you extrapolate the steps/hr over a 7.5 hour day, we're about the same.  Hey, I'd much rather do what I did last night than be in a room full of HS kids. |
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Post by Defcord on Jan 16, 2022 7:40:02 GMT -6
I just spent the night making the prisons food, dishing it out, delivering it, cleaning up the trays and then washing them. I took 8000 steps from 3am to 7am. We currently have 25 positive staff members and unknown (at least to the people I worked with last night) for contact BS. We only employ about 200 total. As a former teacher of 22 years, and a worker of various physical labor jobs- Yes, suck it up. As a whole, teachers are the biggest {censored} on earth about actually having to work. Yet you didn’t stick it out and changed professions. I agree many teachers are whiners but there’s a lot of people who can’t do the job for various reasons. It’s not physically demanding but that doesn’t mean it’s not demanding. It’s the nonsense that is maddening and COVID has amplified that. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 16, 2022 7:43:21 GMT -6
I just spent the night making the prisons food, dishing it out, delivering it, cleaning up the trays and then washing them. I took 8000 steps from 3am to 7am. We currently have 25 positive staff members and unknown (at least to the people I worked with last night) for contact BS. We only employ about 200 total. As a former teacher of 22 years, and a worker of various physical labor jobs- Yes, suck it up. As a whole, teachers are the biggest {censored} on earth about actually having to work. Yet you didn’t stick it out and changed professions. I agree many teachers are whiners but there’s a lot of people who can’t do the job for various reasons. It’s not physically demanding but that doesn’t mean it’s not demanding. It’s the nonsense that is maddening and COVID has amplified that. Doesn’t have a thing to do with workload. Has to do with I was going to punch a mouthy ass kid in the face at some point if I didn't leave. Have no desire to be a 16 year old's bitch. |
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Post by Defcord on Jan 16, 2022 7:48:20 GMT -6
Yet you didn’t stick it out and changed professions. I agree many teachers are whiners but there’s a lot of people who can’t do the job for various reasons. It’s not physically demanding but that doesn’t mean it’s not demanding. It’s the nonsense that is maddening and COVID has amplified that. Doesn’t have a thing to do with workload. Has to do with I was going to punch a mouthy ass kid in the face at some point if I didn't leave. Have no desire to be a 16 year old's bitch. Ha that’s part of the workload these days. It’s just worded differently in the job description. I’m telling you it’s even worse since this virus. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 16, 2022 7:51:50 GMT -6
Yet you didn’t stick it out and changed professions. I agree many teachers are whiners but there’s a lot of people who can’t do the job for various reasons. It’s not physically demanding but that doesn’t mean it’s not demanding. It’s the nonsense that is maddening and COVID has amplified that. Doesn’t have a thing to do with workload. Has to do with I was going to punch a mouthy ass kid in the face at some point if I didn't leave. Have no desire to be a 16 year old's bitch. Aren't those who are whining about it also enduring that...plus the workload? |
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Post by CS on Jan 16, 2022 8:00:28 GMT -6
Yet you didn’t stick it out and changed professions. I agree many teachers are whiners but there’s a lot of people who can’t do the job for various reasons. It’s not physically demanding but that doesn’t mean it’s not demanding. It’s the nonsense that is maddening and COVID has amplified that. Doesn’t have a thing to do with workload. Has to do with I was going to punch a mouthy ass kid in the face at some point if I didn't leave. Have no desire to be a 16 year old's bitch. Kids seem to be bigger pieces of sh!t since the shutdown. The devious lick bullsh!t hasn’t helped anything either. |
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Post by realdawg on Jan 16, 2022 8:14:12 GMT -6
I agree, they got used to doing whatever they wanted during the shutdown.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 16, 2022 8:14:20 GMT -6
Doesn’t have a thing to do with workload. Has to do with I was going to punch a mouthy ass kid in the face at some point if I didn't leave. Have no desire to be a 16 year old's bitch. Ha that’s part of the workload these days. It’s just worded differently in the job description. I’m telling you it’s even worse since this virus. But, what I think delta's getting at, and I am particularly, is that's your choice. As a whole, teachers need to quit acting like they're carrying their own crosses for the choices they've made. |
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