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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 13, 2021 8:20:59 GMT -6
If I am on a full Football Scholarship at FSU and I enter the transfer portal and DON"T transfer do I loose my scholarship at FSU?
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Post by jcamerot on Dec 13, 2021 10:40:58 GMT -6
"They can transfer elsewhere as a scholarship player or as a walk-on. Although they can withdraw from the portal at any time, the team they intended to leave is not required to take them back or keep them on scholarship."
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Post by newhope on Dec 14, 2021 9:01:56 GMT -6
In many cases, the players in the transfer portal were advised to do it by their coaches. They were no longer in the plan at their current school, and by getting them to transfer it opens up a scholarship without the coach making people mad by taking it away.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 14, 2021 10:31:05 GMT -6
So I kid is risking a full ride in hopes someone will take him. Dang.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 14, 2021 11:42:14 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Dec 14, 2021 11:58:46 GMT -6
This is behind a pay wall.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 14, 2021 12:20:01 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Dec 14, 2021 12:45:05 GMT -6
Lane Kiffin complaining about NIL and college free agency is pretty ironic.
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 15, 2021 5:14:47 GMT -6
So I kid is risking a full ride in hopes someone will take him. Dang. Technically no- because while players have been pushing for 4 year “guarantees” in the vast majority of cases athletic scholarships are renewable on a yearly basis. So while it isn’t a common practice, EDITED FOR CLARITY: - So technically, one could say entering the transfer portal doesn’t put a student athlete “at risk” because the school could always not renew the scholarship. In practice, entering the portal makes it much easier for the school to not renew without taking a hit in the goodwill department. occasionally a student gets his scholarship pulled. With the transfer portal has done is eliminated the need for all the back channel practices that used to happen. It puts things out in the open and allows potential schools to directly recruit instead of the players old HS coach contacting various potential schools to secretly gauge interest and report back to player etc.
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Post by rosey65 on Dec 15, 2021 8:25:34 GMT -6
So I kid is risking a full ride in hopes someone will take him. Dang. Technically no- because while players have been pushing for 4 year “guarantees” in the vast majority of cases athletic scholarships are renewable on a yearly basis. So while it isn’t a common practice, occasionally a student gets his scholarship pulled. With the transfer portal has done is eliminated the need for all the back channel practices that used to happen. It puts things out in the open and allows potential schools to directly recruit instead of the players old HS coach contacting various potential schools to secretly gauge interest and report back to player etc. A lot of back channel dealings have been brought to the forefront and made clearer, sure. Kids no longer in the future game-plan get a chance to upgrade their playing opportunities at typically smaller schools. (A former player of mine wasn't getting time at his SEC school, so went thru the portal and landed at a MAC school where he excels) But yes, bulldogsdc a LOT of kids are risking a full ride for the hope of getting picked up elsewhere What's even scarier, looking to the future, is how this is going to impact the big recruits. Ewers getting draft pick money to go to Texas is just the start. Rich boosters no longer have to hide money thru relatives (reggie bush, cam newton, etc). They can now make open, legal business offers to entice these kids. A buddy in the industry says speculation is a starting QB will pull $3-5mil a year. Where things go from there I have no idea, but it will move there very quickly
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 9:08:51 GMT -6
Welcome to to paying players.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 15, 2021 10:38:43 GMT -6
I think it is important to consider the following when discussing this issue. Imagine yourself as a parent of one of these kids in your current situation...Are you telling your son not to take a NIL deal? If some money is moving from a rich mans bank account to this poor teacher's kid's account... My kid is taking the deal and the free education.
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Post by fantom on Dec 15, 2021 12:54:14 GMT -6
I think it is important to consider the following when discussing this issue. Imagine yourself as a parent of one of these kids in your current situation...Are you telling your son not to take a NIL deal? If some money is moving from a rich mans bank account to this poor teacher's kid's account... My kid is taking the deal and the free education. I don't think that anybody has a problem with that. What I don't like is that when you combine NIL with the transfer portal you have a chance for rich schools to rob non-Power 5 schools directly. If a school like Florida, for example, wants a quick infusion in talent they don't need to take a chance on JUCOs. They can convince a few guys that Florida money is better than CUSA or MAC money.
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Post by blb on Dec 15, 2021 13:10:54 GMT -6
I think it is important to consider the following when discussing this issue. Imagine yourself as a parent of one of these kids in your current situation...Are you telling your son not to take a NIL deal? If some money is moving from a rich mans bank account to this poor teacher's kid's account... My kid is taking the deal and the free education. I don't think that anybody has a problem with that. What I don't like is that when you combine NIL with the transfer portal you have a chance for rich schools to rob non-Power 5 schools directly. If a school like Florida, for example, wants a quick infusion in talent they don't need to take a chance on JUCOs. They can convince a few guys that Florida money is better than CUSA or MAC money. Education has little if anything to do with it. Also - what if the kid who transfers thru portal doesn't play to his satisfaction for whatever reason? And, what about the kids who were recruited to that school that a transfer kid comes in and immediately plays ahead of?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 14:03:17 GMT -6
I think it is important to consider the following when discussing this issue. Imagine yourself as a parent of one of these kids in your current situation...Are you telling your son not to take a NIL deal? If some money is moving from a rich mans bank account to this poor teacher's kid's account... My kid is taking the deal and the free education. I don't think that anybody has a problem with that. What I don't like is that when you combine NIL with the transfer portal you have a chance for rich schools to rob non-Power 5 schools directly. If a school like Florida, for example, wants a quick infusion in talent they don't need to take a chance on JUCOs. They can convince a few guys that Florida money is better than CUSA or MAC money. That is exactly what’s going to start happening, IMO. A few really rich schools with prime media markets for football (USC immediately comes to mind) will likely start pulling the best talent from the mid and lower tier Power 5 schools. It’s going to be hard to build at Cal or South Carolina, even with great recruiting classes and digging up diamonds in the rough, if schools with national branding can just step in and offer your building blocks a big deal you can’t compete with. The schools that want a quick turnaround are going to start focusing on the transfer portal to find former 4* and 5* recruits who want to leave or just want a bigger payday. The “free agency” aspect may lead to the game becoming even more homogenized among the elite in order to make it easier for transfers to come in and play immediately.
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Post by fantom on Dec 15, 2021 17:46:45 GMT -6
I don't think that anybody has a problem with that. What I don't like is that when you combine NIL with the transfer portal you have a chance for rich schools to rob non-Power 5 schools directly. If a school like Florida, for example, wants a quick infusion in talent they don't need to take a chance on JUCOs. They can convince a few guys that Florida money is better than CUSA or MAC money. That is exactly what’s going to start happening, IMO. A few really rich schools with prime media markets for football (USC immediately comes to mind) will likely start pulling the best talent from the mid and lower tier Power 5 schools. It’s going to be hard to build at Cal or South Carolina, even with great recruiting classes and digging up diamonds in the rough, if schools with national branding can just step in and offer your building blocks a big deal you can’t compete with. The schools that want a quick turnaround are going to start focusing on the transfer portal to find former 4* and 5* recruits who want to leave or just want a bigger payday. The “free agency” aspect may lead to the game becoming even more homogenized among the elite in order to make it easier for transfers to come in and play immediately. It's not the former 4 and 5 star guys that I'm thinking about. I doubt that Tulsa or Ball State has any. The guys I'm thinking about are guys who were 2 or 3 star recruits, went to a lower tier school, and developed to the point that they play like 4/5 stars.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 18:21:58 GMT -6
That is exactly what’s going to start happening, IMO. A few really rich schools with prime media markets for football (USC immediately comes to mind) will likely start pulling the best talent from the mid and lower tier Power 5 schools. It’s going to be hard to build at Cal or South Carolina, even with great recruiting classes and digging up diamonds in the rough, if schools with national branding can just step in and offer your building blocks a big deal you can’t compete with. The schools that want a quick turnaround are going to start focusing on the transfer portal to find former 4* and 5* recruits who want to leave or just want a bigger payday. The “free agency” aspect may lead to the game becoming even more homogenized among the elite in order to make it easier for transfers to come in and play immediately. It's not the former 4 and 5 star guys that I'm thinking about. I doubt that Tulsa or Ball State has any. The guys I'm thinking about are guys who were 2 or 3 star recruits, went to a lower tier school, and developed to the point that they play like 4/5 stars. I got that and I agree. Those guys are going to get scooped up by the big boys as soon as they have a breakout season or just get some highlights. I’m just saying that I also believe that even the non-elite Power 5 programs like Illinois or South Carolina are also going to deal with the same kind of stuff, to a lesser extent. The Miami-Ohios and Wyomings of the world are going to be royally screwed.
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 15, 2021 18:38:08 GMT -6
I don't think that anybody has a problem with that. What I don't like is that when you combine NIL with the transfer portal you have a chance for rich schools to rob non-Power 5 schools directly. If a school like Florida, for example, wants a quick infusion in talent they don't need to take a chance on JUCOs. They can convince a few guys that Florida money is better than CUSA or MAC money. That is exactly what’s going to start happening, IMO. A few really rich schools with prime media markets for football (USC immediately comes to mind) will likely start pulling the best talent from the mid and lower tier Power 5 schools. It’s going to be hard to build at Cal or South Carolina, even with great recruiting classes and digging up diamonds in the rough, if schools with national branding can just step in and offer your building blocks a big deal you can’t compete with. The schools that want a quick turnaround are going to start focusing on the transfer portal to find former 4* and 5* recruits who want to leave or just want a bigger payday. The “free agency” aspect may lead to the game becoming even more homogenized among the elite in order to make it easier for transfers to come in and play immediately. Can you tell me how this is terribly different than the last 60-70 years of college football though? AP Top 10 schools from various years 1957 1965 1973 1981 1. Auburn 2. Ohio State. 3. Michigan State. 4. Oklahoma. 5. Navy. 6. Iowa. 7. Ole Miss. 8. Rice 9. Tex A&M 10. Notre Dame 1. Alabama. 2. Michigan State 3. Arkansas. 4.UCLA 5. Nebraska 6. Missouri 7. Tennesse 8. LSU 9. Notre Dame 10. USC. 1. Notre Dame. 2. Ohio State 3. Oklahoma 4. Alabama 5. Penn State. 6. Michigan 7. Nebraska. 8. USC. 9. Arizona State. 10. Houston/Tex Tech 1. Clemson. 2. Texas. 3. Penn State. 4. Pitt. 5. SMU 6. UGA. 7. Alabama. 8. Miama (Fla) 9. UNC 10. Washington. 1. Florida State 2. Notre Dame. 3. Nebraska. 4. Auburn. 5. Florida. 6. Wisconsin. 7. West Virginia 8. Penn State. 9. A&M 10. Arizona 1. Ohio State. 2. Miami (Fla) 3. UGA. 4. USC. 5. Oklahoma. 6. Texas. 7. Kansas State. 8. Iowa. 9. Michigan. 10. Washington State The years were 1957, 1965, 1973, 1981, 1993, 2002. The names I see on these lists...are probably going to be the names we see on future lists.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 18:52:45 GMT -6
That is exactly what’s going to start happening, IMO. A few really rich schools with prime media markets for football (USC immediately comes to mind) will likely start pulling the best talent from the mid and lower tier Power 5 schools. It’s going to be hard to build at Cal or South Carolina, even with great recruiting classes and digging up diamonds in the rough, if schools with national branding can just step in and offer your building blocks a big deal you can’t compete with. The schools that want a quick turnaround are going to start focusing on the transfer portal to find former 4* and 5* recruits who want to leave or just want a bigger payday. The “free agency” aspect may lead to the game becoming even more homogenized among the elite in order to make it easier for transfers to come in and play immediately. Can you tell me how this is terribly different than the last 60-70 years of college football though? AP Top 10 schools from various years 1957 1965 1973 1981 1. Auburn 2. Ohio State. 3. Michigan State. 4. Oklahoma. 5. Navy. 6. Iowa. 7. Ole Miss. 8. Rice 9. Tex A&M 10. Notre Dame 1. Alabama. 2. Michigan State 3. Arkansas. 4.UCLA 5. Nebraska 6. Missouri 7. Tennesse 8. LSU 9. Notre Dame 10. USC. 1. Notre Dame. 2. Ohio State 3. Oklahoma 4. Alabama 5. Penn State. 6. Michigan 7. Nebraska. 8. USC. 9. Arizona State. 10. Houston/Tex Tech 1. Clemson. 2. Texas. 3. Penn State. 4. Pitt. 5. SMU 6. UGA. 7. Alabama. 8. Miama (Fla) 9. UNC 10. Washington. 1. Florida State 2. Notre Dame. 3. Nebraska. 4. Auburn. 5. Florida. 6. Wisconsin. 7. West Virginia 8. Penn State. 9. A&M 10. Arizona 1. Ohio State. 2. Miami (Fla) 3. UGA. 4. USC. 5. Oklahoma. 6. Texas. 7. Kansas State. 8. Iowa. 9. Michigan. 10. Washington State The years were 1957, 1965, 1973, 1981, 1993, 2002. The names I see on these lists...are probably going to be the names we see on future lists. It won’t affect the rankings, beyond concentrating talent even more at the top with NIL money, unless a school like Syracuse or Rutgers somehow taps into the NYC metro media market I’m saying it’ll just make it even tougher on the less than stellar programs to build. When they do luck into having a true stud, he’ll be gone in a year instead of 3-4. It’s just going to stratify the game even more and make it even more corporate. You won’t see things like Josh Allen developing at Wyoming or Khalil Mack becoming a star at Buffalo. You probably won’t even see a Drew Brews becoming a legend at Purdue. Those guys will be one and gone to OSU, Texas, Notre Dame, or USC. Essentially, college football is about to become like the NBA due to NIL combined with the transfer portal. “Big market” teams will dominate through the potential for NIL money while “small market” teams like Iowa, Nebraska, etc. will become jumping off points for overlooked studs to show off their skills before bouncing to Los Angeles and USC a year later. The highly touted washouts from those elite schools who transfer out are going to be interesting to watch, though.
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 15, 2021 19:07:16 GMT -6
Can you tell me how this is terribly different than the last 60-70 years of college football though? AP Top 10 schools from various years 1957 1965 1973 1981 1. Auburn 2. Ohio State. 3. Michigan State. 4. Oklahoma. 5. Navy. 6. Iowa. 7. Ole Miss. 8. Rice 9. Tex A&M 10. Notre Dame 1. Alabama. 2. Michigan State 3. Arkansas. 4.UCLA 5. Nebraska 6. Missouri 7. Tennesse 8. LSU 9. Notre Dame 10. USC. 1. Notre Dame. 2. Ohio State 3. Oklahoma 4. Alabama 5. Penn State. 6. Michigan 7. Nebraska. 8. USC. 9. Arizona State. 10. Houston/Tex Tech 1. Clemson. 2. Texas. 3. Penn State. 4. Pitt. 5. SMU 6. UGA. 7. Alabama. 8. Miama (Fla) 9. UNC 10. Washington. 1. Florida State 2. Notre Dame. 3. Nebraska. 4. Auburn. 5. Florida. 6. Wisconsin. 7. West Virginia 8. Penn State. 9. A&M 10. Arizona 1. Ohio State. 2. Miami (Fla) 3. UGA. 4. USC. 5. Oklahoma. 6. Texas. 7. Kansas State. 8. Iowa. 9. Michigan. 10. Washington State The years were 1957, 1965, 1973, 1981, 1993, 2002. The names I see on these lists...are probably going to be the names we see on future lists. It won’t affect the rankings, beyond concentrating talent even more at the top with NIL money, unless a school like Syracuse or Rutgers somehow taps into the NYC metro media market I’m saying it’ll just make it even tougher on the less than stellar programs to build. When they do luck into having a true stud, he’ll be gone in a year instead of 3-4. It’s just going to stratify the game even more and make it even more corporate. You won’t see things like Josh Allen developing at Wyoming or Khalil Mack becoming a star at Buffalo. You probably won’t even see a Drew Brews becoming a legend at Purdue. Those guys will be one and gone to OSU, Texas, Notre Dame, or USC. Essentially, college football is about to become like the NBA due to NIL combined with the transfer portal. “Big market” teams will dominate through the potential for NIL money while “small market” teams like Iowa, Nebraska, etc. will become jumping off points for overlooked studs to show off their skills before bouncing to Los Angeles and USC a year later. The highly touted washouts from those elite schools who transfer out are going to be interesting to watch, though. I don't know. I agree it seems likely, BUT as I mentioned, it isn't really that different than what has been happening the last 60+ years of college football. Hell, the last five years, its Bama, OSU, Oklahoma, Clemson, and UGA. Plus, one of the top recruits in the nation just choose an HBCU. I will say that I honestly don't have a problem with it. At least not as much of a problem as I have with Dabo Sweeney and Lane Kiffin whining about it. In the current college football environment, the University of Miami/boosters just paid $8+million to buy out Manny Diaz, then another $8+ million to pay off Christobal's buyout clause, and then another $8 Million to pay Christoball. Scott Woodward just paid Ed Orgeron $16 million to not coach, and Brian Kelley $9+million a year. These middle aged men are part of a professional sports organization. I have no problem with the players being compensated as they are. For those that want to go back to amateurism (I am one of them), then I say pay Kelly, Saban, Sweeney, Jimbo and the rest $150,000-$200,000 a year. Pay the ADs $110,000. Funnel all the revenue BACK into the university. If those guys want more, hey, I bet the Jaguars job is opening up soon.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Dec 15, 2021 21:38:13 GMT -6
It won’t affect the rankings, beyond concentrating talent even more at the top with NIL money, unless a school like Syracuse or Rutgers somehow taps into the NYC metro media market I’m saying it’ll just make it even tougher on the less than stellar programs to build. When they do luck into having a true stud, he’ll be gone in a year instead of 3-4. It’s just going to stratify the game even more and make it even more corporate. You won’t see things like Josh Allen developing at Wyoming or Khalil Mack becoming a star at Buffalo. You probably won’t even see a Drew Brews becoming a legend at Purdue. Those guys will be one and gone to OSU, Texas, Notre Dame, or USC. Essentially, college football is about to become like the NBA due to NIL combined with the transfer portal. “Big market” teams will dominate through the potential for NIL money while “small market” teams like Iowa, Nebraska, etc. will become jumping off points for overlooked studs to show off their skills before bouncing to Los Angeles and USC a year later. The highly touted washouts from those elite schools who transfer out are going to be interesting to watch, though. I don't know. I agree it seems likely, BUT as I mentioned, it isn't really that different than what has been happening the last 60+ years of college football. Hell, the last five years, its Bama, OSU, Oklahoma, Clemson, and UGA. Plus, one of the top recruits in the nation just choose an HBCU. I will say that I honestly don't have a problem with it. At least not as much of a problem as I have with Dabo Sweeney and Lane Kiffin whining about it. In the current college football environment, the University of Miami/boosters just paid $8+million to buy out Manny Diaz, then another $8+ million to pay off Christobal's buyout clause, and then another $8 Million to pay Christoball. Scott Woodward just paid Ed Orgeron $16 million to not coach, and Brian Kelley $9+million a year. These middle aged men are part of a professional sports organization. I have no problem with the players being compensated as they are. For those that want to go back to amateurism (I am one of them), then I say pay Kelly, Saban, Sweeney, Jimbo and the rest $150,000-$200,000 a year. Pay the ADs $110,000. Funnel all the revenue BACK into the university. If those guys want more, hey, I bet the Jaguars job is opening up soon. I don't want to sidetrack this, and I'm also not being a smartass, but I'm curious when you use the phrase "back to amateurism", is there a year you can point to where you feel like major D1 football was "amateur"?
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 15, 2021 22:38:29 GMT -6
I don't know. I agree it seems likely, BUT as I mentioned, it isn't really that different than what has been happening the last 60+ years of college football. Hell, the last five years, its Bama, OSU, Oklahoma, Clemson, and UGA. Plus, one of the top recruits in the nation just choose an HBCU. I will say that I honestly don't have a problem with it. At least not as much of a problem as I have with Dabo Sweeney and Lane Kiffin whining about it. In the current college football environment, the University of Miami/boosters just paid $8+million to buy out Manny Diaz, then another $8+ million to pay off Christobal's buyout clause, and then another $8 Million to pay Christoball. Scott Woodward just paid Ed Orgeron $16 million to not coach, and Brian Kelley $9+million a year. These middle aged men are part of a professional sports organization. I have no problem with the players being compensated as they are. For those that want to go back to amateurism (I am one of them), then I say pay Kelly, Saban, Sweeney, Jimbo and the rest $150,000-$200,000 a year. Pay the ADs $110,000. Funnel all the revenue BACK into the university. If those guys want more, hey, I bet the Jaguars job is opening up soon. I don't want to sidetrack this, and I'm also not being a smartass, but I'm curious when you use the phrase "back to amateurism", is there a year you can point to where you feel like major D1 football was "amateur"? When players, by policy, were not allowed to be compensated? Although, amateur isn't really the best word for my thoughts. I would rephrase it "For those who want to go back to paradigm where once a player signed his NLI, the schools held almost all of the "power"' ... That is a bit better way to put it. My point is that those crying that things such as the transfer portal and NLI are "ruining the game" are simply exhibiting hypocrisy at a world class level. It isn't a game, not for those who are whining. It is a multi-billion dollar business. Period. And as with any labor/management situation when labor gets some concessions, management gripes. In this case, management is griping because they don't want to struggle with additional labor freedoms.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Dec 15, 2021 23:15:50 GMT -6
I don't want to sidetrack this, and I'm also not being a smartass, but I'm curious when you use the phrase "back to amateurism", is there a year you can point to where you feel like major D1 football was "amateur"? When players, by policy, were not allowed to be compensated? Although, amateur isn't really the best word for my thoughts. I would rephrase it "For those who want to go back to paradigm where once a player signed his NLI, the schools held almost all of the "power"' ... That is a bit better way to put it. My point is that those crying that things such as the transfer portal and NLI are "ruining the game" are simply exhibiting hypocrisy at a world class level. It isn't a game, not for those who are whining. It is a multi-billion dollar business. Period. And as with any labor/management situation when labor gets some concessions, management gripes. In this case, management is griping because they don't want to struggle with additional labor freedoms. OK I understand now. I misunderstood and thought you were longing for the days when the game was amateur and the coaches were paid the equivalent of 150k per year, which didn't resonate with me. I get it now, and agree completely.
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 16, 2021 6:14:20 GMT -6
I don't think that anybody has a problem with that. What I don't like is that when you combine NIL with the transfer portal you have a chance for rich schools to rob non-Power 5 schools directly. If a school like Florida, for example, wants a quick infusion in talent they don't need to take a chance on JUCOs. They can convince a few guys that Florida money is better than CUSA or MAC money. Education has little if anything to do with it. Also - what if the kid who transfers thru portal doesn't play to his satisfaction for whatever reason? And, what about the kids who were recruited to that school that a transfer kid comes in and immediately plays ahead of? Is that last scenario any different than the if a newly recruited kid comes in and immediately plays in front of a previously recruited kid? My biggest issue is coaches complaining that it is “like the wild west” or “absolute chaos” and yet in the span of like 2 weeks : -Lincoln Riley Announced in a press conference that USC would be the mecca of collge football a few weeks after telling his OU players the same thing. -Brian Kelly left ND while the Irish were just an Iowa or UGA win from likely competing in the CFP ( I was rooting for that all Championship weekend) -Mario Cristobal was being actively pursued by Miami before they fired Manny Diaz. The coaches and athletic directors move freely at anytime to “do whats best for family” yet when others want the same- it is “chaos”.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 16, 2021 7:48:16 GMT -6
Capitalism, aint it a b!tch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 7:50:53 GMT -6
It won’t affect the rankings, beyond concentrating talent even more at the top with NIL money, unless a school like Syracuse or Rutgers somehow taps into the NYC metro media market I’m saying it’ll just make it even tougher on the less than stellar programs to build. When they do luck into having a true stud, he’ll be gone in a year instead of 3-4. It’s just going to stratify the game even more and make it even more corporate. You won’t see things like Josh Allen developing at Wyoming or Khalil Mack becoming a star at Buffalo. You probably won’t even see a Drew Brews becoming a legend at Purdue. Those guys will be one and gone to OSU, Texas, Notre Dame, or USC. Essentially, college football is about to become like the NBA due to NIL combined with the transfer portal. “Big market” teams will dominate through the potential for NIL money while “small market” teams like Iowa, Nebraska, etc. will become jumping off points for overlooked studs to show off their skills before bouncing to Los Angeles and USC a year later. The highly touted washouts from those elite schools who transfer out are going to be interesting to watch, though. I don't know. I agree it seems likely, BUT as I mentioned, it isn't really that different than what has been happening the last 60+ years of college football. Hell, the last five years, its Bama, OSU, Oklahoma, Clemson, and UGA. Plus, one of the top recruits in the nation just choose an HBCU. I will say that I honestly don't have a problem with it. At least not as much of a problem as I have with Dabo Sweeney and Lane Kiffin whining about it. In the current college football environment, the University of Miami/boosters just paid $8+million to buy out Manny Diaz, then another $8+ million to pay off Christobal's buyout clause, and then another $8 Million to pay Christoball. Scott Woodward just paid Ed Orgeron $16 million to not coach, and Brian Kelley $9+million a year. These middle aged men are part of a professional sports organization. I have no problem with the players being compensated as they are. For those that want to go back to amateurism (I am one of them), then I say pay Kelly, Saban, Sweeney, Jimbo and the rest $150,000-$200,000 a year. Pay the ADs $110,000. Funnel all the revenue BACK into the university. If those guys want more, hey, I bet the Jaguars job is opening up soon. Make no mistake: I’m not saying that the transfer portal or NIL is a bad thing. I’m just saying it’s different and will change things more than people realize. IMO, the players who make these universities hundreds of millions of dollars, enable their coaches to earn multi-million dollar salaries, and are recruited to the school specifically for that purpose deserve a slice of the pie. I’m just saying this is going to alter the way things work at that level more than people realize. It also might not always favor the traditional powers if someone comes along to bankroll a winner. Travis Hunter signed with Jackson St. over FSU because he was reportedly given a $1 million NIL deal. Deion Sanders’ own “resources” and the promise of similar NIL deals are said to be the main reason why so many Power 5 players transferred in to play for him at an FCS HBCU last year, creating a stacked NC contender overnight. In light of that, I can also see NIL actually shaking the lower levels of NCAA football even more than the conventional wisdom would suggest. All the focus now is on the big money of the FBS, but if a big booster or two comes along at a lower level school they can become “elite” at a fraction of the cost as long the checks clear. That could set off a domino effect where competing schools who are already struggling and losing money just fold up their programs or go the non-scholarship route to save money.
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Post by 53 on Dec 16, 2021 8:05:50 GMT -6
I think it will hurt a lot of traditional powers more than the lower level teams, and will level the playing field a bit.
Look at teams like Auburn that already had their boosters running a well oiled machine on funneling money to recruits. Now they just lost that edge, because every program can do it without fear of getting caught.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 8:17:24 GMT -6
If they are interested in spreading the wealth so to speak, add in the walk on factor, the next step, and I do believe this is coming, is reduction in scholarships. I do think cfb is realigning in a very large way, even if it glacier slow.
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Post by rosey65 on Dec 16, 2021 8:45:45 GMT -6
What about this one..... schools like Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Northwestern, schools traditionally weak athletically but with a huge academic history, suddenly able to use their massive booster resources to pull in top-tier talent.
As it's been said repeatedly, the landscape of college football is changing, we just dont know where and how
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 9:06:16 GMT -6
I think it will hurt a lot of traditional powers more than the lower level teams, and will level the playing field a bit. Look at teams like Auburn that already had their boosters running a well oiled machine on funneling money to recruits. Now they just lost that edge, because every program can do it without fear of getting caught. The thing that’s going to potentially hurt your Auburns of the world is going to be the ability for teams with national media reach, like USC and Notre Dame, to offer more and bigger regional and national deals for players. It also lowers the value or need for athletic scholarships. Why give a kid $20k a year for school when you’ve hooked him up with a $500k NIL deal? This could lead to a lot of big time players going to major programs as “walk ons” and effectively makes scholarship limits (or reductions as part of sanctions) a moot point.
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