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Post by 19delta on Jun 2, 2021 22:59:45 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 6:01:22 GMT -6
In the times we are living... that is bleeping dumb. |
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Post by morris on Jun 3, 2021 6:02:52 GMT -6
Well that staff better get ready to be fired and sued.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jun 3, 2021 6:30:59 GMT -6
Beyond belief
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Post by CS on Jun 3, 2021 6:39:42 GMT -6
Yeah I saw that. It’s so hard to believe that 8 grown men were there and not one looked around and thought that was the dumbest thing ever.
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Post by gian3074 on Jun 3, 2021 6:48:27 GMT -6
Yeah I saw that. It’s so hard to believe that 8 grown men were there and not one looked around and thought that was the dumbest thing ever. Sadly when you look at coaching scandals (high school or college) there are always the assistants who watch and choose to do nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 6:49:36 GMT -6
Yeah I saw that. It’s so hard to believe that 8 grown men were there and not one looked around and thought that was the dumbest thing ever. Sadly when you look at coaching scandals (high school or college) there are always the assistants who watch and choose to do nothing. Ain’t just sports. Truly horrific events in history have a long list of those who stood by and watched. |
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Post by tripsclosed on Jun 3, 2021 7:01:53 GMT -6
Sadly when you look at coaching scandals (high school or college) there are always the assistants who watch and choose to do nothing. Ain’t just sports. Truly horrific events in history have a long list of those who stood by and watched. Beat me to it. I was just getting ready to make a post about that |
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Post by newhope on Jun 3, 2021 7:36:40 GMT -6
I've seen and heard of stupid stuff before, but that one is right at the top.
The thing I'd like to hear is WHY they made the kid eat the pizza---just curious to see what prompted such an idiotic move on the part of the coaches? Was this spur of the moment by the HC, or was there discussion among all coaches...did the assistants know it was going to happen before it happened?....did they have an opportunity to intervene?...It sounds like they did
Nothing excuses this kind of behavior----but I'm interested in knowing more details to help explain this level of stupidity on the part of an entire group of coaches.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 3, 2021 8:00:10 GMT -6
I've seen and heard of stupid stuff before, but that one is right at the top. The thing I'd like to hear is WHY they made the kid eat the pizza---just curious to see what prompted such an idiotic move on the part of the coaches? Was this spur of the moment by the HC, or was there discussion among all coaches...did the assistants know it was going to happen before it happened?....did they have an opportunity to intervene?...It sounds like they did Nothing excuses this kind of behavior----but I'm interested in knowing more details to help explain this level of stupidity on the part of an entire group of coaches. I am sure some ACs thought if they intervened they could be found disloyal. Now, is that just a friendly jab based on our back in forth in another thread. Sure. BUT, that doesn't mean there isn't truth to it either. |
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Post by newhope on Jun 3, 2021 8:22:30 GMT -6
I've seen and heard of stupid stuff before, but that one is right at the top. The thing I'd like to hear is WHY they made the kid eat the pizza---just curious to see what prompted such an idiotic move on the part of the coaches? Was this spur of the moment by the HC, or was there discussion among all coaches...did the assistants know it was going to happen before it happened?....did they have an opportunity to intervene?...It sounds like they did Nothing excuses this kind of behavior----but I'm interested in knowing more details to help explain this level of stupidity on the part of an entire group of coaches. I am sure some ACs thought if they intervened they could be found disloyal. Now, is that just a friendly jab based on our back in forth in another thread. Sure. BUT, that doesn't mean there isn't truth to it either. They might have....maybe it fits your definition. In my view, saying to the HC "whoa, coach, step back---this is going to get us all in trouble" IS being loyal...assistants need to protect the program. An assistant that allows a HC to step on a landmine is doing a disservice, which is another reason you keep loyal people around--they'll protect you from even yourself. That's part of why I'd like to know the rest of the circumstances---to understand what was going on with both the HC and the assistants for it to go this far. If I said to my guys "I'm going to make this kid eat this pizza" they would have said "let's take a step back and think about this, coach". Things may happen spur of the moment nobody has a chance to step in before it's too late, but my top guys know part of their job is to keep me off the landmines. I know not all HCs operate that way, but IMO they should. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 3, 2021 8:35:17 GMT -6
I am sure some ACs thought if they intervened they could be found disloyal. Now, is that just a friendly jab based on our back in forth in another thread. Sure. BUT, that doesn't mean there isn't truth to it either. They might have....maybe it fits your definition. In my view, saying to the HC "whoa, coach, step back---this is going to get us all in trouble" IS being loyal...assistants need to protect the program. An assistant that allows a HC to step on a landmine is doing a disservice, which is another reason you keep loyal people around--they'll protect you from even yourself. That's part of why I'd like to know the rest of the circumstances---to understand what was going on with both the HC and the assistants for it to go this far. If I said to my guys "I'm going to make this kid eat this pizza" they would have said "let's take a step back and think about this, coach". Things may happen spur of the moment nobody has a chance to step in before it's too late, but my top guys know part of their job is to keep me off the landmines. I know not all HCs operate that way, but IMO they should. Sure. And another guy might tell anyone who said that "GTF out of here" And when any trouble came from it, that coach would instantly be labeled the traitor, be accused of being the one who reported it, potentially blackballed in the local coaching community etc..... |
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Post by fantom on Jun 3, 2021 8:48:25 GMT -6
I was just going to post this story. What are some people thinking? Did the coach wake up and think, "How can i phuk up my career today?"? |
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Post by newhope on Jun 3, 2021 9:03:33 GMT -6
They might have....maybe it fits your definition. In my view, saying to the HC "whoa, coach, step back---this is going to get us all in trouble" IS being loyal...assistants need to protect the program. An assistant that allows a HC to step on a landmine is doing a disservice, which is another reason you keep loyal people around--they'll protect you from even yourself. That's part of why I'd like to know the rest of the circumstances---to understand what was going on with both the HC and the assistants for it to go this far. If I said to my guys "I'm going to make this kid eat this pizza" they would have said "let's take a step back and think about this, coach". Things may happen spur of the moment nobody has a chance to step in before it's too late, but my top guys know part of their job is to keep me off the landmines. I know not all HCs operate that way, but IMO they should. Sure. And another guy might tell anyone who said that "GTF out of here" And when any trouble came from it, that coach would instantly be labeled the traitor, be accused of being the one who reported it, potentially blackballed in the local coaching community etc..... Another guy might. Seems like one of these guys should have, though |
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jun 3, 2021 9:04:01 GMT -6
This sounds like something that a group of jackass AC's would do while the HC is away for some reason. The fact that the HC was the shot caller on this is crazy.
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Post by tripsclosed on Jun 3, 2021 9:30:05 GMT -6
They might have....maybe it fits your definition. In my view, saying to the HC "whoa, coach, step back---this is going to get us all in trouble" IS being loyal...assistants need to protect the program. An assistant that allows a HC to step on a landmine is doing a disservice, which is another reason you keep loyal people around--they'll protect you from even yourself. That's part of why I'd like to know the rest of the circumstances---to understand what was going on with both the HC and the assistants for it to go this far. If I said to my guys "I'm going to make this kid eat this pizza" they would have said "let's take a step back and think about this, coach". Things may happen spur of the moment nobody has a chance to step in before it's too late, but my top guys know part of their job is to keep me off the landmines. I know not all HCs operate that way, but IMO they should. Sure. And another guy might tell anyone who said that "GTF out of here" And when any trouble came from it, that coach would instantly be labeled the traitor, be accused of being the one who reported it, potentially blackballed in the local coaching community etc..... Yup... |
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Post by tripsclosed on Jun 3, 2021 9:32:50 GMT -6
I was just going to post this story. What are some people thinking? Did the coach wake up and think, "How can i phuk up my career today?"? This is like calling 4 verticals on 4th and inches with Jim Brown as your RB 😄 |
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Post by olcoach53 on Jun 3, 2021 9:55:45 GMT -6
As a coach AND a Jew, I find this absolutely horrific and demeaning. The sad state of things is that this guy will probably get hired on as an assistant somewhere soon and he a HC again in the near future. How guys think that things like these will go unnoticed always baffles me. As for the assistants who allowed it to happen, they should all be ashamed of themselves, but I am sure they see it as innocent fun...
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Post by tripsclosed on Jun 3, 2021 10:31:29 GMT -6
As a coach AND a Jew, I find this absolutely horrific and demeaning. The sad state of things is that this guy will probably get hired on as an assistant somewhere soon and he a HC again in the near future. How guys think that things like these will go unnoticed always baffles me. As for the assistants who allowed it to happen, they should all be ashamed of themselves, but I am sure they see it as innocent fun... Yeah it's absolutely appalling to me... |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 3, 2021 10:52:51 GMT -6
This is a good argument for not allowing guys to bring an entire staff with him.
On another note, this reminds me of my best definition of defensive driving from driver's ed- "Never underestimate the ability of people to be stupid".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 10:54:43 GMT -6
This is a good argument for not allowing guys to bring an entire staff with him. On another note, this reminds me of my best definition of defensive driving from driver's ed- "Never underestimate the ability of people to be stupid". And i think it has the chance for people to be even dumber than that. |
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Post by 19delta on Jun 3, 2021 11:04:16 GMT -6
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jun 3, 2021 11:13:55 GMT -6
Splitting hairs a little, and either way it was stupid, but was the punishment to eat an entire pizza or to eat pork?
It's the difference between being a staff of idiots and a staff of idiots that violated someone's civil rights
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 11:14:40 GMT -6
Splitting hairs a little, and either way it was stupid, but was the punishment to eat an entire pizza or to eat pork? It's the difference between being a staff of idiots and a staff of idiots that violated someone's civil rights Easily both. Sausage pizza. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 3, 2021 11:19:45 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 3, 2021 11:31:04 GMT -6
Splitting hairs a little, and either way it was stupid, but was the punishment to eat an entire pizza or to eat pork? It's the difference between being a staff of idiots and a staff of idiots that violated someone's civil rights I believe it was the first-- seemed like a "Private Pyle eating a donut" type of punishment for missing a voluntary work out according to a news article. |
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Post by blb on Jun 3, 2021 11:31:20 GMT -6
The guy is not a teacher but works for the school as the "athletic academic liaison". Not for long. |
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jun 3, 2021 11:34:10 GMT -6
Splitting hairs a little, and either way it was stupid, but was the punishment to eat an entire pizza or to eat pork? It's the difference between being a staff of idiots and a staff of idiots that violated someone's civil rights
I think it's an important distinction but no one will care what the intention was.
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Post by fantom on Jun 3, 2021 11:39:15 GMT -6
Splitting hairs a little, and either way it was stupid, but was the punishment to eat an entire pizza or to eat pork? It's the difference between being a staff of idiots and a staff of idiots that violated someone's civil rights
I think it's an important distinction but no one will care what the intention was.
I don't know many teenage boys who would consider eating a whole pizza to be punishment. |
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Post by NC1974 on Jun 3, 2021 11:48:38 GMT -6
The Maryland program that went down a few years ago liked to make people eat as well
"Current and former players also described several incidents where staff members targeted players because of weight issues. Sources said a former offensive lineman whom the staff deemed overweight was forced to watch workouts while eating candy bars as a form of humiliation. Another former Terrapins player said his inability to gain weight resulted in members of the strength and conditioning staff sitting with him at meals to make sure he ate."
Coaches and ADs everywhere are now updating their talking points for summer camps
*please do not force players to eat things
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