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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 12, 2020 11:22:13 GMT -6
We are getting ready to restart summer work outs on Monday (June 15). We have some restrictions as to the what and how. I'll list them at the end . For those that have already started back my questions to the wisdom of the board are these
"What did you do wrong?"
"What do you do right?"
"What was the biggest thing(s) you didn't foresee?"
Our restrictions:
-No more than 10 in a group per facility. This includes coach(es). and a facility is..... a facility. So a football field is the same as a softball field, as a gym, as a weight room, etc....
-Social distancing all times = 6 ft apart
-Kids have to wear masks when they are not activity doing drills. Coach has to wear it all the time.
-Take a temp before you start every workout and answer a set of health questions.
-No locker room use
Thank you.
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Post by wingtol on Jun 12, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -6
My biggest question is when can or do we transition from all this to regular football? We'll have like a month once we get on the field till the pads come on, is that really gonna happen? Any places/state associations address that yet? It's great to have a chance to get on the field again but will we really get a chance for a season?
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 12, 2020 12:27:42 GMT -6
My biggest question is when can or do we transition from all this to regular football? We'll have like a month once we get on the field till the pads come on, is that really gonna happen? Any places/state associations address that yet? It's great to have a chance to get on the field again but will we really get a chance for a season? The Fed has issued a 3 phase return to sports, and our state association mirrors the phase 1 mostly. However, our state phase 2 & 3 are all a bunch of boxes that say TBD..... And they say the length our phase 1 is...... you guessed it TBD. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 12, 2020 12:49:31 GMT -6
My biggest question is when can or do we transition from all this to regular football? We'll have like a month once we get on the field till the pads come on, is that really gonna happen? Any places/state associations address that yet? It's great to have a chance to get on the field again but will we really get a chance for a season? The Fed has issued a 3 phase return to sports, and our state association mirrors the phase 1 mostly. However, our state phase 2 & 3 are all a bunch of boxes that say TBD..... And they say the length our phase 1 is...... you guessed it TBD. You could be like Illinois where we have phases with all these qualifiers of when you can move from stage to stage but even if you meet every criteria, the only thing that matters is the date. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 12:50:51 GMT -6
We are getting ready to restart summer work outs on Monday (June 15). We have some restrictions as to the what and how. I'll list them at the end . For those that have already started back my questions to the wisdom of the board are these "What did you do wrong?" "What do you do right?" "What was the biggest thing(s) you didn't foresee?" Our restrictions: -No more than 10 in a group per facility. This includes coach(es). and a facility is..... a facility. So a football field is the same as a softball field, as a gym, as a weight room, etc.... -Social distancing all times = 6 ft apart -Kids have to wear masks when they are not activity doing drills. Coach has to wear it all the time. -Take a temp before you start every workout and answer a set of health questions. -No locker room use Thank you. Never leave a coach by himself. The questions are stupid. No kid will answer those honestly on both ends of the spectrum. You are going to find out who wants to coach and who does not. The amount of manual labor has gone up 100x. You are wise to show you have barometers for everything. 6ft spacing markers inside and outside. Record all activity, document, document, document, document, document, document everything. Take ultra pre caution with everything. The way this was presented was like a kid breaking his neck, except it will be a public lynching of the coaching industry. if a kid gets sick and dies, god help us all, forget it if a team has an outbreak. And if you are the coach deemed responsible... |
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Post by realdawg on Jun 12, 2020 15:28:12 GMT -6
Good thread. We start Monday as well. We can have 25 outside including coaches. I’m bringing a max of 20 players at a time. Those 20 are then divided into groups of 5. I painted circles 10 feet apart for them to “workout” in. I painted Xs 10 feet apart where they start during running. I painted Xs 8 feet apart where they wait in line to be checked in. I painted lines for them to stand on 8 feet apart to wait for ride. Everything flows in a circular pattern so that groups and subgroups don’t interact. We are gonna take it safe, slow, and easy. It’s a good plan on paper. We will see how it goes Monday when we add adolescence into the mix.
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Post by fadepattern on Jun 12, 2020 19:00:53 GMT -6
Our guidelines are very similar. One thing we did was once groups were set they could not change. You had to stay with your group through the whole June phase. That way if one kid were to come down sick only that kid and his group has to be isolated.
We have a mandatory dead period June 21-July 5. We are still waiting for guidance on what football will look like at that time.
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Post by CS on Jun 12, 2020 19:32:34 GMT -6
My biggest question is when can or do we transition from all this to regular football? We'll have like a month once we get on the field till the pads come on, is that really gonna happen? Any places/state associations address that yet? It's great to have a chance to get on the field again but will we really get a chance for a season? Our state association is going to have a vote next month to flip spring sports and fall sports possibly. But until the. We are scheduled to return to play in August but nobody knows what that will look like |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 20:02:59 GMT -6
My biggest question is when can or do we transition from all this to regular football? We'll have like a month once we get on the field till the pads come on, is that really gonna happen? Any places/state associations address that yet? It's great to have a chance to get on the field again but will we really get a chance for a season? Our state association is going to have a vote next month to flip spring sports and fall sports possibly. But until the. We are scheduled to return to play in August but nobody knows what that will look like Please dont take this the wrong way, But what does it what sport plays when? If the corona virus is still around, comes back in the fall, it will not matter what sport is taking place, they are not playing. |
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Post by wingtol on Jun 12, 2020 20:34:52 GMT -6
My biggest question is when can or do we transition from all this to regular football? We'll have like a month once we get on the field till the pads come on, is that really gonna happen? Any places/state associations address that yet? It's great to have a chance to get on the field again but will we really get a chance for a season? Our state association is going to have a vote next month to flip spring sports and fall sports possibly. But until the. We are scheduled to return to play in August but nobody knows what that will look like Heard rumblings about places doing that. Finish season in June and start right back up in July for the season to start in August again? |
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Post by fadepattern on Jun 12, 2020 20:36:09 GMT -6
Our state association is going to have a vote next month to flip spring sports and fall sports possibly. But until the. We are scheduled to return to play in August but nobody knows what that will look like Please dont take this the wrong way, But what does it what sport plays when? If the corona virus is still around, comes back in the fall, it will not matter what sport is taking place, they are not playing. I know this may sound cold blooded but if baseball, softball and track get moved to the fall and are cancelled because of covid 19 that is not the same financial hit for schools as if football gets cancelled. I know that not everybody uses football receipts to fund other sports but a lot of schools do. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 12, 2020 21:51:56 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 0:32:55 GMT -6
Please dont take this the wrong way, But what does it what sport plays when? If the corona virus is still around, comes back in the fall, it will not matter what sport is taking place, they are not playing. I know this may sound cold blooded but if baseball, softball and track get moved to the fall and are cancelled because of covid 19 that is not the same financial hit for schools as if football gets cancelled. I know that not everybody uses football receipts to fund other sports but a lot of schools do. I am not offended at all. I understand the financial reality of it. I do . Everybody uses football to fund everything else. With all due respect, chess club, band, and the debate team do not the pay the bills. But if there is another spike, another 120,000 in the process of happening, sports, School ain’t happening next year either Imo. But its why I asked the question. To me to who put off the fall sport....what for? playing in the dead of July and august as some have proposed doesnt reek the safety push to be completely bogus? Its a question that I dont need or want answered. I have a sneaking suspicion, hunch though that, covid is a 5 minute thunderstorm... |
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Post by carookie on Jun 13, 2020 5:44:12 GMT -6
Youre telling me, i just came out to south texas for a fishing trip |
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Post by CS on Jun 13, 2020 5:58:51 GMT -6
Our state association is going to have a vote next month to flip spring sports and fall sports possibly. But until the. We are scheduled to return to play in August but nobody knows what that will look like Please dont take this the wrong way, But what does it what sport plays when? If the corona virus is still around, comes back in the fall, it will not matter what sport is taking place, they are not playing. They're probably thinking since Baseball is being played now with restrictions and its a non contact sport that the positives may not spike. For the most part the kids already provide their own equipment and, if not, the equipment is minimal to disinfect between using. Same for track. Non-contact and minimal equipment to disinfect if you take out pole vault and high jump, possibly hurdles since you have to take them on and off and disinfection would be a nightmare. Compare that to volleyball and football. Volleyball is indoor and close quarters with a ball being touched by multiple people on every play. Football is outdoor but has the same problem as volleyball with the ball thing. Plus its a contact sport and nobody has their own equipment. I guess everyone could buy their own water bottles but that's about as good as it gets. The powers that be are probably seeing football possibly being cancelled in the fall anyway and they are trying to buy some more time for this thing to blow over and salvage the season. But I don't care about any of that. I just hope i'm able to keep them there for 4-5 hours and most of which is taken up by my long speeches about life, the other couple of hours doing community service on the side of the road while giving them motivational speeches about what it used to be like when I played. Coming back to the field to run a few plays and then running 110's until the sun goes down and its time for dinner. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 8:52:11 GMT -6
Please dont take this the wrong way, But what does it what sport plays when? If the corona virus is still around, comes back in the fall, it will not matter what sport is taking place, they are not playing. They're probably thinking since Baseball is being played now with restrictions and its a non contact sport that the positives may not spike. For the most part the kids already provide their own equipment and, if not, the equipment is minimal to disinfect between using. Same for track. Non-contact and minimal equipment to disinfect if you take out pole vault and high jump, possibly hurdles since you have to take them on and off and disinfection would be a nightmare. Compare that to volleyball and football. Volleyball is indoor and close quarters with a ball being touched by multiple people on every play. Football is outdoor but has the same problem as volleyball with the ball thing. Plus its a contact sport and nobody has their own equipment. I guess everyone could buy their own water bottles but that's about as good as it gets. The powers that be are probably seeing football possibly being cancelled in the fall anyway and they are trying to buy some more time for this thing to blow over and salvage the season. But I don't care about any of that. I just hope i'm able to keep them there for 4-5 hours and most of which is taken up by my long speeches about life, the other couple of hours doing community service on the side of the road while giving them motivational speeches about what it used to be like when I played. Coming back to the field to run a few plays and then running 110's until the sun goes down and its time for dinner. CS, utmost respect and not really aimed at you individually, you can go F-yourself on 2 hr practice, much less 5, and speeches... I have been drowned in morality speeches. I agree with the speeches to...but to what end... 90 minutes practice tops. That range is 70-90 minutes, no talking, no speeches. Have it organized so kids know the drills. Yes, that is more work for coaches, boo-hoo. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 13, 2020 9:05:53 GMT -6
They're probably thinking since Baseball is being played now with restrictions and its a non contact sport that the positives may not spike. For the most part the kids already provide their own equipment and, if not, the equipment is minimal to disinfect between using. Same for track. Non-contact and minimal equipment to disinfect if you take out pole vault and high jump, possibly hurdles since you have to take them on and off and disinfection would be a nightmare. Compare that to volleyball and football. Volleyball is indoor and close quarters with a ball being touched by multiple people on every play. Football is outdoor but has the same problem as volleyball with the ball thing. Plus its a contact sport and nobody has their own equipment. I guess everyone could buy their own water bottles but that's about as good as it gets. The powers that be are probably seeing football possibly being cancelled in the fall anyway and they are trying to buy some more time for this thing to blow over and salvage the season. But I don't care about any of that. I just hope i'm able to keep them there for 4-5 hours and most of which is taken up by my long speeches about life, the other couple of hours doing community service on the side of the road while giving them motivational speeches about what it used to be like when I played. Coming back to the field to run a few plays and then running 110's until the sun goes down and its time for dinner. CS, utmost respect and not really aimed at you individually, you can go F-yourself on 2 hr practice, much less 5, and speeches... I have been drowned in morality speeches. I agree with the speeches to...but to what end... 90 minutes practice tops. That range is 70-90 minutes, no talking, no speeches. Have it organized so kids know the drills. Yes, that is more work for coaches, boo-hoo.  I am fairly certain his last paragraph was written tongue-in-cheek |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 9:12:30 GMT -6
CS, utmost respect and not really aimed at you individually, you can go F-yourself on 2 hr practice, much less 5, and speeches... I have been drowned in morality speeches. I agree with the speeches to...but to what end... 90 minutes practice tops. That range is 70-90 minutes, no talking, no speeches. Have it organized so kids know the drills. Yes, that is more work for coaches, boo-hoo. I am fairly certain his last paragraph was written tongue-in-cheek I know CS is a smart guy....and I know he was using sarcasm....I just took the opportunity to rant about unnecessarily practices. |
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 13, 2020 17:45:22 GMT -6
Started 2 weeks ago
Keep pods consistent (if one kid gets sick you shut down that pod, not the whole team). We also mixed our pods 9-12th grade so kids got to know each other
Regardless of how you feel about restrictions, FOLLOW them! Make kids and parents and coaches know these are non-negotiable
Use this as a time to really get to know your guys especially the new kids
Listened to a college strength coach and mirrored a lot of what he said. Among the points:
50% rule-wherever you were at this time last year, cut it in half. Kids haven’t officially done anything in 3 months, trail back expectations and use the first week to gauge where they are at.
Reteach movement patterns and lifts. We couldn’t have spotters so any rack lifts were super light.
Lift as much from the ground as possible. Trap bar deadlift, lunges, etc...no spotter, can drop the weight
Do as much as you can outside
Remember, you aren’t going to be wowed by the physical nature of your guys..,that’s ok, can’t get 3 months back in a week. We have really harped on our guys any progress is great progress, we’ve been overly positive
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Post by 19delta on Jun 14, 2020 8:02:39 GMT -6
Don't be this guy:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 8:23:30 GMT -6
Team goal my ass! I would wager half those kids are now considering the word quit. And for a guy who, with all due respect, has been dead for 15 years. Those kids were sucking nipples in 2005. IT doesnt f-ing matter. This is the wrong grinder and grinded out of profession. |
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Post by bleefb on Jun 14, 2020 9:31:52 GMT -6
I'm sure those frosh linemen knocked out those 100 pullups without a problem.  |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jun 14, 2020 9:44:11 GMT -6
No chance 61 incoming freshman can all do 100 pullups in a day haha. I know that's not the point, and the point is well taken. Don't be that guy under normal circumstances, definitely don't be that guy this year.
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Post by 60zgo on Jun 14, 2020 10:41:23 GMT -6
We are getting ready to restart summer work outs on Monday (June 15). We have some restrictions as to the what and how. I'll list them at the end . For those that have already started back my questions to the wisdom of the board are these "What did you do wrong?" "What do you do right?" "What was the biggest thing(s) you didn't foresee?" Our restrictions: -No more than 10 in a group per facility. This includes coach(es). and a facility is..... a facility. So a football field is the same as a softball field, as a gym, as a weight room, etc.... -Social distancing all times = 6 ft apart -Kids have to wear masks when they are not activity doing drills. Coach has to wear it all the time. -Take a temp before you start every workout and answer a set of health questions. -No locker room use Thank you. No real mistakes but you have to be hyper vigilant... Even if you have one kid in a rack you will be amazed at how many things they will touch on accident, lean up against, etc. You will do way more cleaning than you anticipate. Biggest issue is carpooling or kids coming and going in pairs or groups. |
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Post by 53 on Jun 14, 2020 14:01:02 GMT -6
Wonder how many of their coaches could do that
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Jun 14, 2020 14:19:45 GMT -6
That’s not a troll? Wow
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Post by blb on Jun 14, 2020 15:01:59 GMT -6
Wonder how many of their coaches could do that I'm pretty sure I never had a senior who could do all that, much less a freshman. Not even the kid who went on to become a two-time D-III All-American Decathlete. But then I never asked our players to do that stuff. Did they do Mile Run twice, once with weighted vest? |
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Post by bjohnson on Jun 14, 2020 15:17:05 GMT -6
I'm not sure how it is in other states but we normally have a three week non-conference schedule then a seven week conference schedule before starting play-offs. Play-offs are four to five weeks depending on the class. I've heard some are discussing removing the non-conference portion of the schedule to shorten the season. The thought is by shortening the season football might finish before a possible COVID resurgence. Thoughts on this? Pros/Cons?
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Post by wingtol on Jun 14, 2020 15:27:10 GMT -6
Just saw a local media guy post about allowing for longer time outs this year in HS football because players as of now are required to have their own water bottle and not share.
Not sure how many of you thought about this or not but if you can might be good to order as many extra water bottles as you can and start thinking of ways to deal with this if it carries over into the regular season...
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 14, 2020 15:35:52 GMT -6
Wonder how many of their coaches could do that I'm pretty sure I never had a senior who could do all that, much less a freshman. Not even the kid who went on to become a two-time D-III All-American Decathlete. But then I never asked our players to do that stuff. Did they do Mile Run twice, once with weighted vest? You have. For God's sake I did it age 40 at 270lbs. Without the vest of course, but it's really not that hard. You just have to break up the pullups, pushups and squats. 10 rounds of 10 pull ups, 20 push ups and 30 squats. I want to say we (me and my wife) did it in 50ish minutes. I'll look it up. EDIT- we made it 20 rounds of 5, 10, 15. I did it in 49:49 and my wife did it in 48. It was 2015. I couldn't find my 2016 picture. |
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