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Post by coachlit on Jun 14, 2020 16:09:26 GMT -6
The Murph doesn’t translate at all to football.
Anyways back on topic: VA is in a weird phase where we may be able to go back soon but it seems as if each district will have to come up with their own rules and regulations.
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Post by coachscdub on Jun 14, 2020 17:59:34 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure I never had a senior who could do all that, much less a freshman. Not even the kid who went on to become a two-time D-III All-American Decathlete. But then I never asked our players to do that stuff. Did they do Mile Run twice, once with weighted vest? You have. For God's sake I did it age 40 at 270lbs. Without the vest of course, but it's really not that hard. You just have to break up the pullups, pushups and squats. 10 rounds of 10 pull ups, 20 push ups and 30 squats. I want to say we (me and my wife) did it in 50ish minutes. I'll look it up. EDIT- we made it 20 rounds of 5, 10, 15. I did it in 49:49 and my wife did it in 48. It was 2015. I couldn't find my 2016 picture. But they're freshmen. I've coached freshmen for seven years and the amount that couldnt do a pull up, proper squat, proper push up is quite alot. Not to mention this is coming after essentially three months of inactivity. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 14, 2020 18:04:23 GMT -6
You have. For God's sake I did it age 40 at 270lbs. Without the vest of course, but it's really not that hard. You just have to break up the pullups, pushups and squats. 10 rounds of 10 pull ups, 20 push ups and 30 squats. I want to say we (me and my wife) did it in 50ish minutes. I'll look it up. EDIT- we made it 20 rounds of 5, 10, 15. I did it in 49:49 and my wife did it in 48. It was 2015. I couldn't find my 2016 picture. But they're freshmen. I've coached freshmen for seven years and the amount that couldnt do a pull up, proper squat, proper push up is quite alot. Not to mention this is coming after essentially three months of inactivity. I'm not saying it's a good idea to do this. In fact,it's a horrible idea. I was just responding to the idea that he's never had a Sr be able to do it. |
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Post by coachscdub on Jun 14, 2020 19:25:52 GMT -6
But they're freshmen. I've coached freshmen for seven years and the amount that couldnt do a pull up, proper squat, proper push up is quite alot. Not to mention this is coming after essentially three months of inactivity. I'm not saying it's a good idea to do this. In fact,it's a horrible idea. I was just responding to the idea that he's never had a Sr be able to do it. Ah i see |
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Post by s73 on Jun 15, 2020 6:27:35 GMT -6
The Murph doesn’t translate at all to football. Anyways back on topic: VA is in a weird phase where we may be able to go back soon but it seems as if each district will have to come up with their own rules and regulations. This is the 1st thing I thought. Seems like lazy coaching to me. What does running a mile or doing 300 squats have to do with football w/ everything we've learned about how the body and energy systems work in the past 2 decades? I challenge the validity of that coaches post big time. Few kids of any age nowadays can do 10 pull ups let alone 100 regardless of rest time. JMO. This is obviously a strenuous enough challenge it has it's own name, named after a KIA military stud and his whole frosh team completed it in their 1st try? Total BS. Sorry, not buying it at all. But MORE importantly, not SAFE at all. The 1st time back in probably MONTHS of inactivity? This is the type of guy that ruins it for the rest of us. Because of stuff like this, we're all gonna get that many more guidelines for "reintroduction" to activity if many more follow suit. Nuts. |
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Post by planck on Jun 15, 2020 8:09:43 GMT -6
Lmao can't wait to see his super fitness team get gouged by trap because they never learned any technique. Also, hope those kids don't get rabdo or anything. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 15, 2020 11:24:56 GMT -6
Just a point of fact, I am betting that the pull ups were assisted in some method.
Still a stupid thing to do.
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Post by CS on Jun 15, 2020 11:52:35 GMT -6
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Post by s73 on Jun 15, 2020 12:41:03 GMT -6
I followed up on the twitter thread and it sounds a little bit like he was "walking back" some of his claims. I mean, nobody is buying and entire frosh team can do any of this. Just sayin. |
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Post by 19delta on Jun 15, 2020 13:06:17 GMT -6
I followed up on the twitter thread and it sounds a little bit like he was "walking back" some of his claims. I mean, nobody is buying and entire frosh team can do any of this. Just sayin. Did anyone look at the list of kids and their times? 27 of those kids took over an HOUR to complete the WOD. An hour. Guaranteed that almost every one of those kids did nowhere near that much physical activity at one time during the shut-down. 10 kids took over an hour and a half. 90 minutes doing that dumb-ass WOD. Those kids at the bottom of this list...Jaimee, Jose, and Art...really sorry for those boys. I can't believe that none of the adults there had the sense to shut this nonsense down. What makes this especially outrageous is that for weeks now, Coaching Twitter has been FILLED with admonishments by some highly respected coaches imploring coaches to take it slow and easy now that kids are coming back and to not try to make up all the "lost time". It appears that this guy did the exact opposite. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 13:09:27 GMT -6
I followed up on the twitter thread and it sounds a little bit like he was "walking back" some of his claims. I mean, nobody is buying and entire frosh team can do any of this. Just sayin. Did anyone look at the list of kids and their times? 27 of those kids took over an HOUR to complete the WOD. An hour. Guaranteed that almost every one of those kids did nowhere near that much physical activity at one time during the shut-down. 10 kids took over an hour and a half. 90 minutes doing that dumb-ass WOD. Those kids at the bottom of this list...Jaimee, Jose, and Art...really sorry for those boys. I can't believe that none of the adults there had the sense to shut this nonsense down. What makes this especially outrageous is that for weeks now, Coaching Twitter has been FILLED with admonishments by some highly respected coaches imploring coaches to take it slow and easy now that kids are coming back and to not try to make up all the "lost time". It appears that this guy did the exact opposite. Almost two hrs, and I haven’t visited the actual page yet. That is what i can see. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jun 15, 2020 13:51:03 GMT -6
So we had our first day back today and we did a warmup, four 10 yard get offs, and ten 40s at 75% intensity. My sophomore to be son puked in the garbage can. God knows what the Murph would have done to him.
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Post by choprip on Jun 17, 2020 6:05:02 GMT -6
So we had our first day back today and we did a warmup, four 10 yard get offs, and ten 40s at 75% intensity. My sophomore to be son puked in the garbage can. God knows what the Murph would have done to him. Thanks for sharing, this is what I am hoping to see more of. Was this your entire workout? I was thinking of doing something similar. Have any difficulty with kids running on the field but keeping distance? We can have up to 100 people, but being 6 feet apart kind of makes running tricky. I'm envisioning having 20 kids on the GL, on the 5, the 10, etc. then once they sprint, they split up in half and walk down the sidelines back to the end of the line. I'm learning I could never choreograph any type of dance our routine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 7:23:57 GMT -6
So we had our first day back today and we did a warmup, four 10 yard get offs, and ten 40s at 75% intensity. My sophomore to be son puked in the garbage can. God knows what the Murph would have done to him. Thanks for sharing, this is what I am hoping to see more of. Was this your entire workout? I was thinking of doing something similar. Have any difficulty with kids running on the field but keeping distance? We can have up to 100 people, but being 6 feet apart kind of makes running tricky. I'm envisioning having 20 kids on the GL, on the 5, the 10, etc. then once they sprint, they split up in half and walk down the sidelines back to the end of the line. I'm learning I could never choreograph any type of dance our routine. No worries. Trying blowing a whistle with a mask. Not to mention, i cant blow a whistle without the mask. Half the time I forget to blow the whistle, the other half is, well, lets say embarrassing. |
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Post by blb on Jun 17, 2020 7:41:56 GMT -6
How are administrators going to deal with attendance at games even if we have HS Football?
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Post by arkansasdave1 on Jun 17, 2020 7:50:13 GMT -6
Soon all high school games will be online. Already heard that was in the works, not sure for this season it will be ready.
But of course it will come with loss of ALOT of money.
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Post by Coach.A on Jun 17, 2020 8:14:55 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure I never had a senior who could do all that, much less a freshman. Not even the kid who went on to become a two-time D-III All-American Decathlete. But then I never asked our players to do that stuff. Did they do Mile Run twice, once with weighted vest? You have. For God's sake I did it age 40 at 270lbs. Without the vest of course, but it's really not that hard. You just have to break up the pullups, pushups and squats. 10 rounds of 10 pull ups, 20 push ups and 30 squats. I want to say we (me and my wife) did it in 50ish minutes. I'll look it up. EDIT- we made it 20 rounds of 5, 10, 15. I did it in 49:49 and my wife did it in 48. It was 2015. I couldn't find my 2016 picture. 10 sets of 10 pull ups at 270 pounds at the age of 40? If these are legit full range of motion pull ups, that is SUPER impressive! I think it's safe to say less than 2% of 270 pounders could do that. Even if these were kipping pull ups, still impressive at 270 pounds. If you're 270 pounds and you can complete 10 consecutive strict pull ups, you are jacked! There are many D1 lineman that can't do this. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jun 17, 2020 10:30:59 GMT -6
So we had our first day back today and we did a warmup, four 10 yard get offs, and ten 40s at 75% intensity. My sophomore to be son puked in the garbage can. God knows what the Murph would have done to him. Thanks for sharing, this is what I am hoping to see more of. Was this your entire workout? I was thinking of doing something similar. Have any difficulty with kids running on the field but keeping distance? We can have up to 100 people, but being 6 feet apart kind of makes running tricky. I'm envisioning having 20 kids on the GL, on the 5, the 10, etc. then once they sprint, they split up in half and walk down the sidelines back to the end of the line. I'm learning I could never choreograph any type of dance our routine. Our entire thing was: Active warmup Four 10 yard getoffs Three sets of 20 pushup Ten 40s at 75% of max speed Two sets of 5 up downs After that we spent about 25 minutes with receivers and QBs throwing and LBs and DBs working on pass drops, tackling drills that we could do with social distancing, etc. As far as keeping them apart, that has been a pain in the butt. We have them split into 10 lines across the width of the field amd as the HC runs the conditioning portion all if us assistants are making the rounds amd reminding them over amd over again to spread out in line and keep their distance. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 17, 2020 10:42:09 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing, this is what I am hoping to see more of. Was this your entire workout? I was thinking of doing something similar. Have any difficulty with kids running on the field but keeping distance? We can have up to 100 people, but being 6 feet apart kind of makes running tricky. I'm envisioning having 20 kids on the GL, on the 5, the 10, etc. then once they sprint, they split up in half and walk down the sidelines back to the end of the line. I'm learning I could never choreograph any type of dance our routine. Our entire thing was: Active warmup Four 10 yard getoffs Three sets of 20 pushup Ten 40s at 75% of max speed Two sets of 5 up downs After that we spent about 25 minutes with receivers and QBs throwing and LBs and DBs working on pass drops, tackling drills that we could do with social distancing, etc. As far as keeping them apart, that has been a pain in the butt. We have them split into 10 lines across the width of the field amd as the HC runs the conditioning portion all if us assistants are making the rounds amd reminding them over amd over again to spread out in line and keep their distance. Here is the "fun part" regarding keeping distances-- if 6ft is the recommended distancing with regards to normal activity, why would that also be sufficient with regards to more vigorous activity where respiration is certainly going to be more exaggerated, and inhaling and exhaling certainly will be more forceful. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jun 17, 2020 11:05:40 GMT -6
Our entire thing was: Active warmup Four 10 yard getoffs Three sets of 20 pushup Ten 40s at 75% of max speed Two sets of 5 up downs After that we spent about 25 minutes with receivers and QBs throwing and LBs and DBs working on pass drops, tackling drills that we could do with social distancing, etc. As far as keeping them apart, that has been a pain in the butt. We have them split into 10 lines across the width of the field amd as the HC runs the conditioning portion all if us assistants are making the rounds amd reminding them over amd over again to spread out in line and keep their distance. Here is the "fun part" regarding keeping distances-- if 6ft is the recommended distancing with regards to normal activity, why would that also be sufficient with regards to more vigorous activity where respiration is certainly going to be more exaggerated, and inhaling and exhaling certainly will be more forceful. Not to cop out, but that's a question I'm not qualified to answer. We've been given guidance for how far apart to keep them by our state and our state athletic association and we're following that. If they tell us 10 feet we'll move it to 10 feet. |
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Post by rystaylo on Jun 17, 2020 11:08:50 GMT -6
I guess I don’t see the end game here concerning this season. It’s not going away, by this season. No vaccine. Do they think all of a sudden we won’t have to social distance and we can play?
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Post by realdawg on Jun 17, 2020 13:27:51 GMT -6
We have been at it for 3 days. It’s went pretty well. Have to remind kids to social distance as they are leaving the field. But they do it. We can have 25 people there at a time. So we bring 20 kids in on M/W/F at 8 and 20 more at 10. This is our varsity group. We bring in our freshmen on T/Th, 15 at 8. 15 at 10. The kids are then divided into groups of 5. Outside our wt room we have circles painted 10 feet apart. With a 10 yard gap between sub groups. This week we are doing a body wt workout with our strength coach. On the practice field we have cones About 10 feet apart. With a 10 yard gap between sub group. And cones set up where they run to.
I agree that I don’t see us playing. At least not in the fall. Your telling me we are supposed to start practice in a month and a half and we are gonna go from this to actual practice. I just don’t see it.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 17, 2020 13:43:29 GMT -6
Here is the "fun part" regarding keeping distances-- if 6ft is the recommended distancing with regards to normal activity, why would that also be sufficient with regards to more vigorous activity where respiration is certainly going to be more exaggerated, and inhaling and exhaling certainly will be more forceful. Not to cop out, but that's a question I'm not qualified to answer. We've been given guidance for how far apart to keep them by our state and our state athletic association and we're following that. If they tell us 10 feet we'll move it to 10 feet. . Coach-just to clarify, I wasn’t trying to point fingers. Just showing some of the inconsistencies with policies and procedures. I have some personal experience with the inconsistencies in the medical field right now |
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Post by 19delta on Jun 17, 2020 14:13:45 GMT -6
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jun 17, 2020 14:30:14 GMT -6
Not to cop out, but that's a question I'm not qualified to answer. We've been given guidance for how far apart to keep them by our state and our state athletic association and we're following that. If they tell us 10 feet we'll move it to 10 feet. . Coach-just to clarify, I wasn’t trying to point figures Just showing some of the inconsistencies with policies and procedures. I have some personal experience with the inconsistencies in the medical field right now I absolutely understand coach, there's a ton of stuff in these policies that doesn't seem to hold up to much intellectual scrutiny. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 17, 2020 15:47:38 GMT -6
You have. For God's sake I did it age 40 at 270lbs. Without the vest of course, but it's really not that hard. You just have to break up the pullups, pushups and squats. 10 rounds of 10 pull ups, 20 push ups and 30 squats. I want to say we (me and my wife) did it in 50ish minutes. I'll look it up. EDIT- we made it 20 rounds of 5, 10, 15. I did it in 49:49 and my wife did it in 48. It was 2015. I couldn't find my 2016 picture. 10 sets of 10 pull ups at 270 pounds at the age of 40? If these are legit full range of motion pull ups, that is SUPER impressive! I think it's safe to say less than 2% of 270 pounders could do that. Even if these were kipping pull ups, still impressive at 270 pounds. If you're 270 pounds and you can complete 10 consecutive strict pull ups, you are jacked! There are many D1 lineman that can't do this. I'm sure someone would find fault with the form of all 100 of them, but it worked for me. And in 2015, it was probably closer to 255. 270 was what I weighed the last time I did it. It wasn't in 45mins though. I wouldn't say I was jacked, but at 270 I benched 375 5 reps, squatted 465 5 reps and deadlifted 500 3 reps. Also ran a 5k in about 29 mins. I'm trying real hard to get back. |
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