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Post by tiger11 on Apr 30, 2020 12:35:52 GMT -6
This time of year our football team has done a community service project in our community in which the players would be "rented" to do yardwork, etc in exchange for a donation to a charity.
Has anyone done any kind of "virtual community service" during or before our current situation?
Any ideas?
Trying to think of a way to get our guys to be able to help in the community while keeping everyone safe. Thank you and stay safe.
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Post by shocktroop34 on May 10, 2020 22:14:31 GMT -6
I don't know about the donation aspect of things, but I recently did a "career day" online for our 5th grade elementary students. There were over 40 people in attendance. We're trying to set up a "literacy day" where our players read children's books to kindergartners.
You might also consider an online mentoring day where your players could be matched up with a elementary or middle school aged kid to just talk and explore future, academic, and personal plans. This one might take some planning. Just ideas.
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Post by jlenwood on May 11, 2020 4:07:13 GMT -6
This time of year our football team has done a community service project in our community in which the players would be "rented" to do yardwork, etc in exchange for a donation to a charity. Has anyone done any kind of "virtual community service" during or before our current situation? Any ideas? Trying to think of a way to get our guys to be able to help in the community while keeping everyone safe. Thank you and stay safe. File under: What could be worse than being forced to do community service, virtual community service. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on May 11, 2020 9:57:56 GMT -6
You can stay six feet apart doing yard work.
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Post by larrymoe on May 11, 2020 14:14:46 GMT -6
Called it-
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2020 7:56:32 GMT -6
Yes- but your tone here in in the other thread still begs the question : “why is doing good deeds something to be mocked?” |
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Post by CS on May 12, 2020 9:13:33 GMT -6
Yes- but your tone here in in the other thread still begs the question : “why is doing good deeds something to be mocked?” Could be off base here and he can correct me if I’m wrong but I’m not sure he is mocking good deeds but the reasons behind them. We live in a society that’s just trying to be seen constantly and self promotion is everywhere. I’m not talking sh!t about those people...live and let live and all. He’s mocking the people who post the good deeds as a way of saying “Hey! Look at me and what a great man I am for influencing kids to be better! Give me likes!” When in reality the kids are probably already good kids and they don’t have the influence they think in the long term. I have a buddy who had his team be janitors for a day and clean toilets in the school and empty trash cans etc. and posted it all over Facebook. Don’t get me wrong I love this guy. He’s a great dude but I was even thinking that was ridiculous. But, again, it’s his team and that what he had them do. To each his own |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 9:49:05 GMT -6
I got pissed because we had a couple who just didnt go to school, turned down scholarships. Why would anybody EVER expose their kids to jantorial work? Minimum wage work? Coaches especially. I dont even want my kids to think that way. The circumstances most of them live in is sickening. If i am going to " good deeds? It will be to show what is out there for them. Flipping burgers, collecting trash is not a good deed for kids. They choose that path? Ok. But not because i put those ideas in their head.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2020 10:41:11 GMT -6
Yes- but your tone here in in the other thread still begs the question : “why is doing good deeds something to be mocked?” Could be off base here and he can correct me if I’m wrong but I’m not sure he is mocking good deeds but the reasons behind them. We live in a society that’s just trying to be seen constantly and self promotion is everywhere. I’m not talking sh!t about those people...live and let live and all. He’s mocking the people who post the good deeds as a way of saying “Hey! Look at me and what a great man I am for influencing kids to be better! Give me likes!” When in reality the kids are probably already good kids and they don’t have the influence they think in the long term. I have a buddy who had his team be janitors for a day and clean toilets in the school and empty trash cans etc. and posted it all over Facebook. Don’t get me wrong I love this guy. He’s a great dude but I was even thinking that was ridiculous. But, again, it’s his team and that what he had them do. To each his own I get that..but by posting "called it" isn't he in effect saying that the OP is doing that? By constantly bemoaning people asking about such things, isn't he inherently suggesting that the vast majority of coaches are like that? Not to mention, even if the good deeds get posted.. they were still done right? Sure, it is kind of grating on one's sensibilities to see rich and famous people donating large sums of money (but the equivalent 99% of the population donating maybe $50 bucks) Jeff Bezoz donated 100 million recently, which seems great until you find out his net worth has increased 25 BILLION during the COVID-19 Pandemic. So that isn't a big deal in terms of what he did, but for the people receiving aid from that 100million, do they care that the guy is pandering? Hell, it is still better than the guy in the white house who says he was charitable but turns out he never donated.... So, again, why mock someone who is doing good deeds. |
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Post by stilltryin on May 12, 2020 11:07:27 GMT -6
I got pissed because we had a couple who just didnt go to school, turned down scholarships. Why would anybody EVER expose their kids to jantorial work? Minimum wage work? Coaches especially. I dont even want my kids to think that way. The circumstances most of them live in is sickening. If i am going to " good deeds? It will be to show what is out there for them. Flipping burgers, collecting trash is not a good deed for kids. They choose that path? Ok. But not because i put those ideas in their head. Seriously? I highly doubt the coach you're talking about was trying to steer his kids into careers in janitorial work. We've made it a point the last few years to have a rotating group of players responsible for cleaning up the locker room after games, and after our weeknight "dinner and a movie" film sessions. Part of it is to let them know that the school janitors are not there to be our servants, and have a tough enough job without being left to clean up our messes. "Leave it like you found it," as they say at West Point. And part of it is taking pride in the space where you live. We stole the idea ... the way coaches steal everything ... from the New Zealand All Blacks, the national rugby team, where some of the biggest stars in the sport do the clean-up, and "Sweeping the Sheds" is an integral part of their winning culture. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 11:52:31 GMT -6
I got pissed because we had a couple who just didnt go to school, turned down scholarships. Why would anybody EVER expose their kids to jantorial work? Minimum wage work? Coaches especially. I dont even want my kids to think that way. The circumstances most of them live in is sickening. If i am going to " good deeds? It will be to show what is out there for them. Flipping burgers, collecting trash is not a good deed for kids. They choose that path? Ok. But not because i put those ideas in their head. Seriously? I highly doubt the coach you're talking about was trying to steer his kids into careers in janitorial work. We've made it a point the last few years to have a rotating group of players responsible for cleaning up the locker room after games, and after our weeknight "dinner and a movie" film sessions. Part of it is to let them know that the school janitors are not there to be our servants, and have a tough enough job without being left to clean up our messes. "Leave it like you found it," as they say at West Point. And part of it is taking pride in the space where you live. We stole the idea ... the way coaches steal everything ... from the New Zealand All Blacks, the national rugby team, where some of the biggest stars in the sport do the clean-up, and "Sweeping the Sheds" is an integral part of their winning culture. kids are surrounded by that mentality, 'its ok to be a janitor." Its just the area I live in. Its kids in general. I do not want my kids anywhere near that mentality when they dont have to be. If i am going to expose them to ideas its going to be ideas that if they do the right things, significantly enhance there lives. No problems with good deeds except when you are ok spending time you do not want to spend on football, having kids do stupid things like janitorial work, then to add you make them small minded things. Then people wonder why numbers are down. The kid signed up to play football, not to do good deeds, your good deeds. |
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Post by fantom on May 12, 2020 12:05:10 GMT -6
Seriously? I highly doubt the coach you're talking about was trying to steer his kids into careers in janitorial work. We've made it a point the last few years to have a rotating group of players responsible for cleaning up the locker room after games, and after our weeknight "dinner and a movie" film sessions. Part of it is to let them know that the school janitors are not there to be our servants, and have a tough enough job without being left to clean up our messes. "Leave it like you found it," as they say at West Point. And part of it is taking pride in the space where you live. We stole the idea ... the way coaches steal everything ... from the New Zealand All Blacks, the national rugby team, where some of the biggest stars in the sport do the clean-up, and "Sweeping the Sheds" is an integral part of their winning culture. kids are surrounded by that mentality, 'its ok to be a janitor." Its just the area I live in. Its kids in general. I do not want my kids anywhere near that mentality when they dont have to be. If i am going to expose them to ideas its going to be ideas that if they do the right things, significantly enhance there lives. No problems with good deeds except when you are ok spending time you do not want to spend on football, having kids do stupid things like janitorial work, then to add you make them small minded things. Then people wonder why numbers are down. The kid signed up to play football, not to do good deeds, your good deeds. What's wrong with being a janitor? It's good, honest, useful work. |
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Post by wolverine55 on May 12, 2020 12:25:47 GMT -6
I'm now motivated to try and find out how much they make, but I can assure you janitorial work is NOT a minimum-wage paying job in our school district...
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Post by wolverine55 on May 12, 2020 12:36:34 GMT -6
Easier than I thought as the contract is right on our school's webpage. Minimum wage in Iowa is 7.25. Our custodians make $11.22 an hour, which I will admit is less than I thought. Maintenance workers make $16.32 an hour and if you are custodian/bus driver you make $15.32 an hour. I'm sure almost all of our high school custodians fit the $15.32 as they drive the buses. Plus, our normal bus drivers aren't who normally drives the buses to our sporting events. These guys can all make an extra $11.39 an hour driving for activities, but they haven't had that income this spring obviously.
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Post by larrymoe on May 12, 2020 13:34:18 GMT -6
Yes- but your tone here in in the other thread still begs the question : “why is doing good deeds something to be mocked?” Could be off base here and he can correct me if I’m wrong but I’m not sure he is mocking good deeds but the reasons behind them. We live in a society that’s just trying to be seen constantly and self promotion is everywhere. I’m not talking sh!t about those people...live and let live and all. He’s mocking the people who post the good deeds as a way of saying “Hey! Look at me and what a great man I am for influencing kids to be better! Give me likes!” When in reality the kids are probably already good kids and they don’t have the influence they think in the long term. I have a buddy who had his team be janitors for a day and clean toilets in the school and empty trash cans etc. and posted it all over Facebook. Don’t get me wrong I love this guy. He’s a great dude but I was even thinking that was ridiculous. But, again, it’s his team and that what he had them do. To each his own Bingo. It's possible, and bear with me here, to do good things for people and not post it on social media. IMO, doing a good deed for someone and posting it for all to see deeply cheapens the deed. I mean, when you do that, you're really not doing the deed for the good of the other party, but to glorify yourself. Here's a surprise for you- as a program we used to do stuff for people all the time. Thing is, I never posted it anywhere and I never required it. Requiring it also completely defeats the purpose. I also recoil at this stuff because of the PR nature of it. Most people perceive me as a grumpy, irritable, arrogant {censored} because in person I'm very quiet and private around those I don't know. I don't have social media (I tried Twitter for coaching and thank Jesus I'm off it now) and I don't enjoy hearing about other people's personal lives if I don't know them well. In this day and age, that greatly hurt my coaching career. There are several instances that I did things to help out other people that a "normal" coach today would have plastered all over the internet. One in particular, the only person that knows I did it outside those I helped, was my wife. Publicizing it would have really helped my career, but I still recoil at sharing what I did because I didn't do it for me. That was in 2013. |
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Post by CS on May 12, 2020 14:17:17 GMT -6
Could be off base here and he can correct me if I’m wrong but I’m not sure he is mocking good deeds but the reasons behind them. We live in a society that’s just trying to be seen constantly and self promotion is everywhere. I’m not talking sh!t about those people...live and let live and all. He’s mocking the people who post the good deeds as a way of saying “Hey! Look at me and what a great man I am for influencing kids to be better! Give me likes!” When in reality the kids are probably already good kids and they don’t have the influence they think in the long term. I have a buddy who had his team be janitors for a day and clean toilets in the school and empty trash cans etc. and posted it all over Facebook. Don’t get me wrong I love this guy. He’s a great dude but I was even thinking that was ridiculous. But, again, it’s his team and that what he had them do. To each his own I get that..but by posting "called it" isn't he in effect saying that the OP is doing that? By constantly bemoaning people asking about such things, isn't he inherently suggesting that the vast majority of coaches are like that? Not to mention, even if the good deeds get posted.. they were still done right? Sure, it is kind of grating on one's sensibilities to see rich and famous people donating large sums of money (but the equivalent 99% of the population donating maybe $50 bucks) Jeff Bezoz donated 100 million recently, which seems great until you find out his net worth has increased 25 BILLION during the COVID-19 Pandemic. So that isn't a big deal in terms of what he did, but for the people receiving aid from that 100million, do they care that the guy is pandering? Hell, it is still better than the guy in the white house who says he was charitable but turns out he never donated.... So, again, why mock someone who is doing good deeds. Not to be a dick but having kids do virtual community service reeks of social media plastering. Here’s the deal. I post sh!t on social media all the time but I’m promoting the players as much as I can. It’s just the world we live in. So I’m not against social media at all. Your last statement pretty much answers your question though. You compare Jeff Bezoz who did relatively nothing as far as skin off his a$$ and used it to insult another rich person because he didn’t give anything. That’s why larrymo is pi$$y about community service posters. Because they do it for self promotion a guy like him is expected to or he gets ridiculed |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2020 15:01:28 GMT -6
I get that..but by posting "called it" isn't he in effect saying that the OP is doing that? By constantly bemoaning people asking about such things, isn't he inherently suggesting that the vast majority of coaches are like that? Not to mention, even if the good deeds get posted.. they were still done right? Sure, it is kind of grating on one's sensibilities to see rich and famous people donating large sums of money (but the equivalent 99% of the population donating maybe $50 bucks) Jeff Bezoz donated 100 million recently, which seems great until you find out his net worth has increased 25 BILLION during the COVID-19 Pandemic. So that isn't a big deal in terms of what he did, but for the people receiving aid from that 100million, do they care that the guy is pandering? Hell, it is still better than the guy in the white house who says he was charitable but turns out he never donated.... So, again, why mock someone who is doing good deeds. Not to be a dick but having kids do virtual community service reeks of social media plastering. Here’s the deal. I post sh!t on social media all the time but I’m promoting the players as much as I can. It’s just the world we live in. So I’m not against social media at all. Your last statement pretty much answers your question though. You compare Jeff Bezoz who did relatively nothing as far as skin off his a$$ and used it to insult another rich person because he didn’t give anything. That’s why larrymo is pi$$y about community service posters. Because they do it for self promotion a guy like him is expected to or he gets ridiculed "Self promotion" or "Program promotion"? That said, I understand where the sentiments come from. It sucks, but apparently some communities have decided that should be part of the role of the program and coach if they are ridiculing those that don't? Coaches can disagree, but that doesn't really matter. Hell, as a coach , I think it is ridiculous that some coaches get the salaries they do, and are football only. If I lived in a community like that I would be vocal against it. At the end of the day, the good works are still being done. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 15:23:05 GMT -6
kids are surrounded by that mentality, 'its ok to be a janitor." Its just the area I live in. Its kids in general. I do not want my kids anywhere near that mentality when they dont have to be. If i am going to expose them to ideas its going to be ideas that if they do the right things, significantly enhance there lives. No problems with good deeds except when you are ok spending time you do not want to spend on football, having kids do stupid things like janitorial work, then to add you make them small minded things. Then people wonder why numbers are down. The kid signed up to play football, not to do good deeds, your good deeds. What's wrong with being a janitor? It's good, honest, useful work. Not a thing wrong with being a janitor, My kids are just capable doing better for themselves. The system is set up for them to do better for themselves. Plenty of people can do janitorial work. Plenty of people of will. What wrong with wanting more for and from your players? Why would you give your players the idea that is ok work, especially when you know they are capable of more. |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2020 15:36:30 GMT -6
What's wrong with being a janitor? It's good, honest, useful work. Not a thing wrong with being a janitor, My kids are just capable doing better for themselves. The system is set up for them to do better for themselves. Plenty of people can do janitorial work. Plenty of people of will. What wrong with wanting for your players? Why would you give your players the idea that is ok work, especially when you know they are capable of more. Wouldn't labeling something "not ok work" be demeaning to those who do the work, some of which could be parents or relatives of these players. More importantly, you think that doing janitorial tasks would then inspire someone to say "Hey, this is good. I want to do this. Screw that A in Calculus I am carrying." Really? That doing some type of service project would change their life trajectory? Hell, I might think it would work in the opposite manner, and expose someone to something they DON'T want to do, so they make choices due to that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 16:01:59 GMT -6
Not a thing wrong with being a janitor, My kids are just capable doing better for themselves. The system is set up for them to do better for themselves. Plenty of people can do janitorial work. Plenty of people of will. What wrong with wanting for your players? Why would you give your players the idea that is ok work, especially when you know they are capable of more. Wouldn't labeling something "not ok work" would be demeaning to those who do the work, some of which could be parents or relatives of these players. More importantly, you think that doing janitorial tasks would then inspire someone to say "Hey, this is good. I want to do this. Screw that A in Calculus I am carrying." Really? That doing some type of service project would change their life trajectory? Hell, I might think it would work in the opposite manner, and expose someone to something they DON'T want to do, so they make choices due to that. I have seen 3 kids, Marginal non power 5 talent, do exactly what you said. I want them to do what they do in cook outs, when i give them rides. “Hey coach, Nice ride..” (200,000 mile Ford F-150 I bought for 3k). “You can afford all of this being a teacher..”(as they are chowing down steak, corn, mash potatoes, chicken, hot dogs, soda, Gatorade to their heart’s content). It is ok to be a janitor. But there is more out there for the kids. Lot more. The saucer eyes when our retired cop tells stories of doing things these kids do in video games (different times). Why would you not want them to go be a cop? Or a nurse? I know from family, nurses are capable of incredible income. A fire fighter, a paramedic, banker, stock traders...i would much rather expose my kids to those things than the guy flipping burgers, or picking up trash. My kids have no idea what those jobs provide. They dont have those examples at home, none of them. |
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Post by CS on May 12, 2020 16:40:40 GMT -6
What's wrong with being a janitor? It's good, honest, useful work. Not a thing wrong with being a janitor, My kids are just capable doing better for themselves. The system is set up for them to do better for themselves. Plenty of people can do janitorial work. Plenty of people of will. What wrong with wanting more for and from your players? Why would you give your players the idea that is ok work, especially when you know they are capable of more. You in one breath will say that community service doesn’t affect a kid in a positive manner but in the same breath think that having kids do janitorial work will encourage them to be janitors? Thanks for your contribution to the topic |
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Post by CS on May 12, 2020 16:42:22 GMT -6
Not a thing wrong with being a janitor, My kids are just capable doing better for themselves. The system is set up for them to do better for themselves. Plenty of people can do janitorial work. Plenty of people of will. What wrong with wanting for your players? Why would you give your players the idea that is ok work, especially when you know they are capable of more. Wouldn't labeling something "not ok work" be demeaning to those who do the work, some of which could be parents or relatives of these players. More importantly, you think that doing janitorial tasks would then inspire someone to say "Hey, this is good. I want to do this. Screw that A in Calculus I am carrying." Really? That doing some type of service project would change their life trajectory? Hell, I might think it would work in the opposite manner, and expose someone to something they DON'T want to do, so they make choices due to that. That’s really 2 sides to the same coin. Depends on how they do it, how you view it, and who it is. I would argue that the guys making bank in high school live in a community that you would be the minority in because they make that pay day BECAUSE the community want the team to win |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 16:43:09 GMT -6
Not a thing wrong with being a janitor, My kids are just capable doing better for themselves. The system is set up for them to do better for themselves. Plenty of people can do janitorial work. Plenty of people of will. What wrong with wanting more for and from your players? Why would you give your players the idea that is ok work, especially when you know they are capable of more. You in one breath will say that community service doesn’t affect a kid in a positive manner but in the same breath think that having kids do janitorial work will encourage them to be janitors? Thanks for your contribution to the topic Your input is always appreciated. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 16:58:43 GMT -6
Wouldn't labeling something "not ok work" be demeaning to those who do the work, some of which could be parents or relatives of these players. More importantly, you think that doing janitorial tasks would then inspire someone to say "Hey, this is good. I want to do this. Screw that A in Calculus I am carrying." Really? That doing some type of service project would change their life trajectory? Hell, I might think it would work in the opposite manner, and expose someone to something they DON'T want to do, so they make choices due to that. That’s really 2 sides to the same coin. Depends on how they do it, how you view it, and who it is. I would argue that the guys making bank in high school live in a community that you would be the minority in because they make that pay day BECAUSE the community want the team to win There is no money, none whatsoever coming from the community this school is in. ZERO. None of the coaches, except one, live in this school district. It is strictly because it is damn near impossible to get anybody to come. No coach worth their salt stays, no teacher of any accomplishment would come here, much less raise their family here. All the money comes from the state or county. There is no such thing as real parental involvement. It doesnt exist. The kids dont dare have zoom meetings. why? Because that computer will be gone when he leaves for any length of time. The demographics where Uncle Tom or my HC lives, is completely opposite of where he works. The community in which he works, he has the only African American family. We do not have a white kid on our team. We have one Hispanic who sort of shows up..when he wants to. White Kids go to school in the district where my boss lives and puts his kids in school. We go 4-6, 5-5? They are firing Uncle Tom. And not because he is 4-6 or 5-5 but because he is Uncle Tom. I would not be far off in guessing that the total income, like any job at all for my group of parent, and its not parents, its parent, is less than 60,000 a year. I have 5-8 kids depending on which day it is. |
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Post by CS on May 12, 2020 17:08:43 GMT -6
That’s really 2 sides to the same coin. Depends on how they do it, how you view it, and who it is. I would argue that the guys making bank in high school live in a community that you would be the minority in because they make that pay day BECAUSE the community want the team to win There is no money, none whatsoever coming from the community this school is in. ZERO. None of the coaches, except one, live in this school district. It is strictly because it is damn near impossible to get anybody to come. No coach worth their salt stays, no teacher of any accomplishment would come here, much less raise their family here. All the money comes from the state or county. There is no such thing as real parental involvement. It doesnt exist. The kids dont dare have zoom meetings. why? Because that computer will be gone when he leaves for any length of time. The demographics where Uncle Tom or my HC lives, is completely opposite of where he works. The community in which he works, he has the only African American family. We do not have a white kid on our team. We have one Hispanic who sort of shows up..when he wants to. White Kids go to school in the district where my boss lives and puts his kids in school. We go 4-6, 5-5? They are firing Uncle Tom. And not because he is 4-6 or 5-5 but because he is Uncle Tom. I would not be far off in guessing that the total income, like any job at all for my group of parent, and its not parents, its parent, is less than 60,000 a year. I have 5-8 kids depending on which day it is. Good to know |
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Post by carookie on May 12, 2020 17:26:00 GMT -6
I got pissed because we had a couple who just didnt go to school, turned down scholarships. Why would anybody EVER expose their kids to jantorial work? Minimum wage work? Coaches especially. I dont even want my kids to think that way. The circumstances most of them live in is sickening. If i am going to " good deeds? It will be to show what is out there for them. Flipping burgers, collecting trash is not a good deed for kids. They choose that path? Ok. But not because i put those ideas in their head. I think you may be missing the point of how that type of community service works. I take groups of kids to go work with the homeless in Mexico. I don't think that exposure in any way encourages them to become homeless in Mexico. I think it in many ways exposes them to others who may have less than they do, and teach them to be more appreciative of what they do have. It may also humanize those who have less and encourage them to help more in the future. Now, I get the premise of what you are writing. I have worked at schools FOR homeless kids, some of whom at the time lived in Mexico; I am not taking those kids to go help with homeless shelters in Mexico. But I think for a number of schools this doesn't apply; the same way how having kids do custodial work may not entice them to become a custodian. And FWIW, I'm on the side that feels that football programs ask too much time of the kids already, and mandating team community service projects just piles on to that time for most parties involved. |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2020 17:29:48 GMT -6
Wouldn't labeling something "not ok work" would be demeaning to those who do the work, some of which could be parents or relatives of these players. More importantly, you think that doing janitorial tasks would then inspire someone to say "Hey, this is good. I want to do this. Screw that A in Calculus I am carrying." Really? That doing some type of service project would change their life trajectory? Hell, I might think it would work in the opposite manner, and expose someone to something they DON'T want to do, so they make choices due to that. I have seen 3 kids, Marginal non power 5 talent, do exactly what you said. I want them to do what they do in cook outs, when i give them rides. “Hey coach, Nice ride..” (200,000 mile Ford F-150 I bought for 3k). “You can afford all of this being a teacher..”(as they are chowing down steak, corn, mash potatoes, chicken, hot dogs, soda, Gatorade to their heart’s content). It is ok to be a janitor. But there is more out there for the kids. Lot more. The saucer eyes when our retired cop tells stories of doing things these kids do in video games (different times). Why would you not want them to go be a cop? Or a nurse? I know from family, nurses are capable of incredible income. A fire fighter, a paramedic, banker, stock traders...i would much rather expose my kids to those things than the guy flipping burgers, or picking up trash. My kids have no idea what those jobs provide. They dont have those examples at home, none of them. So, I am assuming you had the kids do janitorial tasks as part of community service project and that is why those 3 kids were so inspired by doing that service project that they decided to do that as a career? Because that is the concern you are expressing. No, what you are saying is that you had 3 kids who were pretty good football players but didn't have an interest in attending college. What the hell does that have to do with someone having a community service project where the kids may be doing some type of manual labor??? Hell, I would argue that all of the stuff you complain about regarding these types of service projects and community events would be much more likely to expose them to the things you talk about. To show them more is out there than they realize. To show them that being part of a community will benefit them better in the long run than "out to get mine". |
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Post by 54695469 on May 12, 2020 18:28:06 GMT -6
Well, I think that all these posts just about settles it. Football coaches putting so much emphasis on community service is silly.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2020 18:33:26 GMT -6
Well, I think that all these posts just about settles it. Football coaches putting so much emphasis on community service is silly. Don't lift Bro..it will mess up your swing and jumper! |
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Post by fantom on May 12, 2020 18:54:31 GMT -6
I have seen 3 kids, Marginal non power 5 talent, do exactly what you said. I want them to do what they do in cook outs, when i give them rides. “Hey coach, Nice ride..” (200,000 mile Ford F-150 I bought for 3k). “You can afford all of this being a teacher..”(as they are chowing down steak, corn, mash potatoes, chicken, hot dogs, soda, Gatorade to their heart’s content). It is ok to be a janitor. But there is more out there for the kids. Lot more. The saucer eyes when our retired cop tells stories of doing things these kids do in video games (different times). Why would you not want them to go be a cop? Or a nurse? I know from family, nurses are capable of incredible income. A fire fighter, a paramedic, banker, stock traders...i would much rather expose my kids to those things than the guy flipping burgers, or picking up trash. My kids have no idea what those jobs provide. They dont have those examples at home, none of them. So, I am assuming you had the kids do janitorial tasks as part of community service project and that is why those 3 kids were so inspired by doing that service project that they decided to do that as a career? Because that is the concern you are expressing. No, what you are saying is that you had 3 kids who were pretty good football players but didn't have an interest in attending college. What the hell does that have to do with someone having a community service project where the kids may be doing some type of manual labor??? Hell, I would argue that all of the stuff you complain about regarding these types of service projects and community events would be much more likely to expose them to the things you talk about. To show them more is out there than they realize. To show them that being part of a community will benefit them better in the long run than "out to get mine". Seems to me that with all the complaining about kids today being entitled maybe doing some dirty work would be good for them. |
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