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Post by rosey65 on Sept 24, 2019 8:56:47 GMT -6
HS transfers in FL are rivaling that of the NCAA transfer portal.
We had 11 kids transfer away from our program this past off-season, most of them just because their friend had done it.
2 local schools each had 3 QB's transfer in during the off-season. The highest-"rated" kid in the county transferred. Add in the umpteen kids who didn't even make headlines.... The most damning is the fact that 85% of the transfers were seniors.
I dont see this getting better, either. I would expect it to become rather the norm, at least in my area. It's pretty unmotivating
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Post by bigmoot2 on Sept 24, 2019 12:30:43 GMT -6
Hey...we just started the season 0-4. I'm gonna wait and comeback next year when i have better players to work with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 21:05:51 GMT -6
--UPDATE-- apparently Houston's senior returning starting quarterback who threw for 2,900 yards and 36 touchdowns and rushed for another 674 yards and 14 touchdowns is sitting out the rest of the year so that he can redshirt "avoid having a wasted year" (according to his father) after a lackluster start to the season. The player himself said he is absolutely returning to Houston, but his father contradicted that and said the family would be weighing their options (ie, transfer portal). Also, South Carolina DB Jamyest Williams, started the first 3 games of the season, but did not start week four, is also sitting out the remainder of the year and sources say he will be entering the transfer portal. In response to the original question, I can confirm that holdouts are starting to trickle down to HS. There's a school I know with a stud RB who committed to a lower-tier D1 school over the summer. He ran roughshod over everyone last year and was to be the centerpiece of their offense again as a senior. However, after he committed, he suffered a minor knee injury in the preseason--the kind of nagging-but-not-serious injury that players routinely play through all the time. Because of that injury and the fear that he might suffer something worse that puts his college career in jeopardy, he's shut down the first half of his senior season (mostly non-conference games) to heal and preserve himself for "meaningful" conference games and college. Kids on my team who know him claim that he plans to come back for the final 4-5 games of the regular season and playoffs, but only if his team is in contention. Right now his team has a losing record but will likely still be able to get a playoff spot if they beat 3 terrible teams in their conference. This isn't a 5* stud who's being courted by Nick Saban. He's a lower-tier D1 player who's committed to a place that's hardly known as a football powerhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 21:13:25 GMT -6
HS transfers in FL are rivaling that of the NCAA transfer portal. We had 11 kids transfer away from our program this past off-season, most of them just because their friend had done it. 2 local schools each had 3 QB's transfer in during the off-season. The highest-"rated" kid in the county transferred. Add in the umpteen kids who didn't even make headlines.... The most damning is the fact that 85% of the transfers were seniors. I dont see this getting better, either. I would expect it to become rather the norm, at least in my area. It's pretty unmotivating It's happening a lot in our area, too, and has been for a while. One QB transferred from a big time school to another one in our area after he failed to win the starting job at his old place. Last week we played a team that had 3 kids who were on our team last year starting for them. Essentially the top athletes find the teams with the best "exposure"/hype/talent and go there to play together while the schools who don't have any big time players/championship potential/facilities lose those kids. There are a couple of championship programs I know of where kids who could start (or even were starting) at the school right down the street transfer in to be backups and hopefully get a ring, though a few of them have started transferring out as seniors to actually get playing time.
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 25, 2019 12:38:50 GMT -6
We have a kid trying to pull this....well really it's his dad but same thing every crappy thing about recruiting coming full circle with this jabroni, his kid was full on twitter recruiting warrior the past 3 years, all the emoji's and hashtags bible verses...whole deal so eventually this kid is on enough roids to get beefed up enough to actually get recruited to a mid-major school in the state, his dad...as we have expressed already, is a complete idiot...dad acts like he's the #1 recruit in the nation and must be treated as such, even has the poor kid graduating early so he can go there for spring ball....believe me, this kid is not anywhere near the top of that school's board, and I have no doubt that they never even asked him to grad early for spring ball...he's just doing it because that's what the big time "croots" do
so....we are like a week out from our first game and the kid gets an injury...of course it's his "back"...so the dad is immediately on the "we can't jeopardize his scholarship" train and I doubt seriously the kid will play a snap all year
so ya.....it has trickled out..the kid is holding out as a high school senior because his dad is an idiot
so he's going to miss his senior season, the spring of his senior year, prom, graduation, all of that stuff so he can be fit and ready to go to a college that he will have to work really hard to play special teams at in a year or two and will almost certainly wash out......great plan
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Post by fantom on Sept 25, 2019 13:03:47 GMT -6
We have a kid trying to pull this....well really it's his dad but same thing every crappy thing about recruiting coming full circle with this jabroni, his kid was full on twitter recruiting warrior the past 3 years, all the emoji's and hashtags bible verses...whole deal so eventually this kid is on enough roids to get beefed up enough to actually get recruited to a mid-major school in the state, his dad...as we have expressed already, is a complete idiot...dad acts like he's the #1 recruit in the nation and must be treated as such, even has the poor kid graduating early so he can go there for spring ball....believe me, this kid is not anywhere near the top of that school's board, and I have no doubt that they never even asked him to grad early for spring ball...he's just doing it because that's what the big time "croots" do so....we are like a week out from our first game and the kid gets an injury...of course it's his "back"...so the dad is immediately on the "we can't jeopardize his scholarship" train and I doubt seriously the kid will play a snap all year so ya.....it has trickled out..the kid is holding out as a high school senior because his dad is an idiot so he's going to miss his senior season, the spring of his senior year, prom, graduation, all of that stuff so he can be fit and ready to go to a college that he will have to work really hard to play special teams at in a year or two and will almost certainly wash out......great plan You've piqued my curiosity. You say he was recruited by a mid-major. What level? 1AA, low 1A? He's been offered a schollie? Has he signed? I'm wondering what the college thinks of the kid sitting out the season.
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 25, 2019 13:24:55 GMT -6
We have a kid trying to pull this....well really it's his dad but same thing every crappy thing about recruiting coming full circle with this jabroni, his kid was full on twitter recruiting warrior the past 3 years, all the emoji's and hashtags bible verses...whole deal so eventually this kid is on enough roids to get beefed up enough to actually get recruited to a mid-major school in the state, his dad...as we have expressed already, is a complete idiot...dad acts like he's the #1 recruit in the nation and must be treated as such, even has the poor kid graduating early so he can go there for spring ball....believe me, this kid is not anywhere near the top of that school's board, and I have no doubt that they never even asked him to grad early for spring ball...he's just doing it because that's what the big time "croots" do so....we are like a week out from our first game and the kid gets an injury...of course it's his "back"...so the dad is immediately on the "we can't jeopardize his scholarship" train and I doubt seriously the kid will play a snap all year so ya.....it has trickled out..the kid is holding out as a high school senior because his dad is an idiot so he's going to miss his senior season, the spring of his senior year, prom, graduation, all of that stuff so he can be fit and ready to go to a college that he will have to work really hard to play special teams at in a year or two and will almost certainly wash out......great plan You've piqued my curiosity. You say he was recruited by a mid-major. What level? 1AA, low 1A? He's been offered a schollie? Has he signed? I'm wondering what the college thinks of the kid sitting out the season. conference USA, not a power but a D1 program, I'm sure they wouldn't say anything since he's not officially sitting out just milking an injury, but I don't think he's even enough on their radar enough for them to care that much....he's a scholarship guy, not sure if it's a full wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't there were a few other schools interested in the kid that I heard through the grapevine passed on recruiting him after talking to the dad, said he wasn't talented enough to deal with a high maintenance dad
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Post by someguy on Sept 25, 2019 14:04:37 GMT -6
Another related point, not to highjack the thread, but when are we going to see guys shutting down mid season when they have shown enough to be a legit first or second rounder but are playing on a team that is going nowhere. Why is a later in the season nothing game any different than a bowl game? Gives you more time to get out of game shape and transition to combine shape when you're tested in February. I'd guess it actually has more to do with pre-draft prep (all-star games happen before the Super Bowl, too) than the injury risk of playing another college game.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 25, 2019 17:31:00 GMT -6
You've piqued my curiosity. You say he was recruited by a mid-major. What level? 1AA, low 1A? He's been offered a schollie? Has he signed? I'm wondering what the college thinks of the kid sitting out the season. conference USA, not a power but a D1 program, I'm sure they wouldn't say anything since he's not officially sitting out just milking an injury, but I don't think he's even enough on their radar enough for them to care that much....he's a scholarship guy, not sure if it's a full wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't there were a few other schools interested in the kid that I heard through the grapevine passed on recruiting him after talking to the dad, said he wasn't talented enough to deal with a high maintenance dad Conference USA is an FBS program. Unless something has changed recently, there are only full scholarships awarded in FBS. As far as not being on a school's radar enough to care...scholarships are limited quantities. If they are considering offering (or have already offered), he is on a radar.
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Post by rosey65 on Sept 26, 2019 6:24:22 GMT -6
conference USA, not a power but a D1 program, I'm sure they wouldn't say anything since he's not officially sitting out just milking an injury, but I don't think he's even enough on their radar enough for them to care that much....he's a scholarship guy, not sure if it's a full wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't there were a few other schools interested in the kid that I heard through the grapevine passed on recruiting him after talking to the dad, said he wasn't talented enough to deal with a high maintenance dad Conference USA is an FBS program. Unless something has changed recently, there are only full scholarships awarded in FBS. As far as not being on a school's radar enough to care...scholarships are limited quantities. If they are considering offering (or have already offered), he is on a radar. A few years back, a local kid had a phenomenal Jr year, committed to Florida State. Then had labrum surgery shortly thereafter to repair an injury he suffered that season. Never played a down his senior year. He was pretty public in the spring about not playing his senior season. Medically, he would have been cleared. It was a Bosa-ish decision to not even suit up. FSU still took him on scholarship, but he never really was a major contributor.
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 26, 2019 7:30:27 GMT -6
conference USA, not a power but a D1 program, I'm sure they wouldn't say anything since he's not officially sitting out just milking an injury, but I don't think he's even enough on their radar enough for them to care that much....he's a scholarship guy, not sure if it's a full wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't there were a few other schools interested in the kid that I heard through the grapevine passed on recruiting him after talking to the dad, said he wasn't talented enough to deal with a high maintenance dad Conference USA is an FBS program. Unless something has changed recently, there are only full scholarships awarded in FBS. As far as not being on a school's radar enough to care...scholarships are limited quantities. If they are considering offering (or have already offered), he is on a radar. fair enough, point I'm trying to make is that he's not on anybody's national top 100 list of rivals 14 star recruits, but he's acting like one, and sitting out his senior year behind a made up injury to me seems to be not in his best interest. Pardon my ignorance, I have an inherent revulsion to the entire recruiting landscape so I'm probably not as knowledgeable about it as I should be
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Post by fantom on Sept 26, 2019 7:40:14 GMT -6
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 26, 2019 8:34:54 GMT -6
That's a good question to be honest it's probably some deep seated resentment over my own mediocre athletic career but the party line is that I hate the vanity of the whole thing. In the same way I hate when an NFL guy makes a tackle after a 6 yard gain and gets up doing a dance and throat slashing move, or the same reason I hate most of what coaches put on social media....everything is me, me, me, me.....and I hate to sound like an old fogey but I think it is representative of a greater cultural shift, we just don't see selfishness as such a bad thing anymore. I read recently about a speech that was prepared for George Bush (the first one) when he was campaigning for president, he sent it back to the writers and asked them to take out all the references of "Me" and "I" and make the talking points more representative of the party in general, he thought people would find it unbecoming if a guy got up and talked about himself a lot, that was a common idea in his generation, the empty can rattles the loudest. Watch any politician of this era and the difference is astounding I've had meetings with parents and really dejected kids about recruiting, and none of it has to do with actually playing college football, it's all about being able to say that you are getting recruited, it's a status thing among the parents, something to brag about at the golf course. I love college football, and I think it's awesome when kids who really love playing the game get a chance to continue their career, but most of the noise surrounding recruiting that I see has very little to do with football and everything to do with status symbols. Or maybe I'm just upset I never got to tweet about being #blessed to receive an offer, who knows I'm just a regular dude with too much back hair and a dodge stratus
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 29, 2019 9:33:13 GMT -6
That's a good question to be honest it's probably some deep seated resentment over my own mediocre athletic career but the party line is that I hate the vanity of the whole thing. In the same way I hate when an NFL guy makes a tackle after a 6 yard gain and gets up doing a dance and throat slashing move, or the same reason I hate most of what coaches put on social media....everything is me, me, me, me.....and I hate to sound like an old fogey but I think it is representative of a greater cultural shift, we just don't see selfishness as such a bad thing anymore. I read recently about a speech that was prepared for George Bush (the first one) when he was campaigning for president, he sent it back to the writers and asked them to take out all the references of "Me" and "I" and make the talking points more representative of the party in general, he thought people would find it unbecoming if a guy got up and talked about himself a lot, that was a common idea in his generation, the empty can rattles the loudest. Watch any politician of this era and the difference is astounding I've had meetings with parents and really dejected kids about recruiting, and none of it has to do with actually playing college football, it's all about being able to say that you are getting recruited, it's a status thing among the parents, something to brag about at the golf course. I love college football, and I think it's awesome when kids who really love playing the game get a chance to continue their career, but most of the noise surrounding recruiting that I see has very little to do with football and everything to do with status symbols. Or maybe I'm just upset I never got to tweet about being #blessed to receive an offer, who knows I'm just a regular dude with too much back hair and a dodge stratus I agree with you that sports media has turned recruiting into its own separately covered (and apparently "winnable" activity) and that definitely sours things. Also agree that "being recruited" has become more important than being successful in many ways. People miss out on the pleasure of HS athletics, and what is worse, I think those people don't realize they missed out when they are older. They are just bitter because they were "screwed".
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Post by fantom on Sept 29, 2019 10:30:56 GMT -6
That's a good question to be honest it's probably some deep seated resentment over my own mediocre athletic career but the party line is that I hate the vanity of the whole thing. In the same way I hate when an NFL guy makes a tackle after a 6 yard gain and gets up doing a dance and throat slashing move, or the same reason I hate most of what coaches put on social media....everything is me, me, me, me.....and I hate to sound like an old fogey but I think it is representative of a greater cultural shift, we just don't see selfishness as such a bad thing anymore. I read recently about a speech that was prepared for George Bush (the first one) when he was campaigning for president, he sent it back to the writers and asked them to take out all the references of "Me" and "I" and make the talking points more representative of the party in general, he thought people would find it unbecoming if a guy got up and talked about himself a lot, that was a common idea in his generation, the empty can rattles the loudest. Watch any politician of this era and the difference is astounding I've had meetings with parents and really dejected kids about recruiting, and none of it has to do with actually playing college football, it's all about being able to say that you are getting recruited, it's a status thing among the parents, something to brag about at the golf course. I love college football, and I think it's awesome when kids who really love playing the game get a chance to continue their career, but most of the noise surrounding recruiting that I see has very little to do with football and everything to do with status symbols. Or maybe I'm just upset I never got to tweet about being #blessed to receive an offer, who knows I'm just a regular dude with too much back hair and a dodge stratus I agree with you that sports media has turned recruiting into its own separately covered (and apparently "winnable" activity) and that definitely sours things. Also agree that "being recruited" has become more important than being successful in many ways. People miss out on the pleasure of HS athletics, and what is worse, I think those people don't realize they missed out when they are older. They are just bitter because they were "screwed". On the other hand, is it possible that we coaches are so soured by the bad experiences that we miss the good? Last night I watched one of our guys play on TV. Last week I watched two play for a trade school (Their choice to learn a trade. Both could have gone to college). Two weeks ago an alum helped his D.2 team beat a local 1AA that didn't recruit him. This morning I looked up the stats of two of our guys who played 1AA. None of those guys tweeted about their recruiting. The stories aren't all good. We had a guy turn up his nose at D.2 offers because he and his mom thought that he was too good for that. He's running the streets now. That's not going to keep me from enjoying the good stories.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 29, 2019 12:15:48 GMT -6
I agree with you that sports media has turned recruiting into its own separately covered (and apparently "winnable" activity) and that definitely sours things. Also agree that "being recruited" has become more important than being successful in many ways. People miss out on the pleasure of HS athletics, and what is worse, I think those people don't realize they missed out when they are older. They are just bitter because they were "screwed". On the other hand, is it possible that we coaches are so soured by the bad experiences that we miss the good? Last night I watched one of our guys play on TV. Last week I watched two play for a trade school (Their choice to learn a trade. Both could have gone to college). Two weeks ago an alum helped his D.2 team beat a local 1AA that didn't recruit him. This morning I looked up the stats of two of our guys who played 1AA. None of those guys tweeted about their recruiting. The stories aren't all good. We had a guy turn up his nose at D.2 offers because he and his mom thought that he was too good for that. He's running the streets now. That's not going to keep me from enjoying the good stories. You seem to be describing playing college football. That is not the recruiting process. Wouldn't those things you described in the first paragraph still happen (and have happened for over 60 years since colleges started offering athletic scholarships) without recruiting becoming its own entity players announcing that they are "blessed", and athletes and parents believing that the purpose of HS athletics is to provide them with a college scholarship, and now athletes sitting out and "protecting" themselves so they can play in college? Surely you have seen some of your players play on TV or at a game long before college players started sitting out of bowl games, and now sitting down for the rest of the season, and HS players emulating this behavior?
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Post by fantom on Sept 29, 2019 19:07:11 GMT -6
On the other hand, is it possible that we coaches are so soured by the bad experiences that we miss the good? Last night I watched one of our guys play on TV. Last week I watched two play for a trade school (Their choice to learn a trade. Both could have gone to college). Two weeks ago an alum helped his D.2 team beat a local 1AA that didn't recruit him. This morning I looked up the stats of two of our guys who played 1AA. None of those guys tweeted about their recruiting. The stories aren't all good. We had a guy turn up his nose at D.2 offers because he and his mom thought that he was too good for that. He's running the streets now. That's not going to keep me from enjoying the good stories. You seem to be describing playing college football. That is not the recruiting process. Wouldn't those things you described in the first paragraph still happen (and have happened for over 60 years since colleges started offering athletic scholarships) without recruiting becoming its own entity players announcing that they are "blessed", and athletes and parents believing that the purpose of HS athletics is to provide them with a college scholarship, and now athletes sitting out and "protecting" themselves so they can play in college? Surely you have seen some of your players play on TV or at a game long before college players started sitting out of bowl games, and now sitting down for the rest of the season, and HS players emulating this behavior? Sure. The point is that the good outweighs the bad, maybe by a lot but we seem to be stuck on the bad.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 1, 2019 8:58:11 GMT -6
Honestly, fellas, it's what we're stuck with at this point and there's nothing we can do to change it. The recruiting process needs to change before anything else can happen. And, that probably isn't going to happen given the amount of money involved in FBS football.
If we had a Johnny-Football pull this, we'd wish him the best and focus on the rest of the team. We'd harbor some ill-will towards him internally but we'd just smile, nod and tell the team that we were moving forward without him. It would then come down to keeping the team together and moral up in order to keep the season alive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 10:46:23 GMT -6
Then ncaa is going to be forced to change or come apart...college athletics is about be undone completely with p2p or whatever it is bill in cali. Its going to get bizzarre and worse before it gets better
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 1, 2019 11:03:54 GMT -6
Then ncaa is going to be forced to change or come apart...college athletics is about be undone completely with p2p or whatever it is bill in cali. Its going to get bizzarre and worse before it gets better Not really. It simply will not let a school punish a player for being compensated for name & likeness.
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 2, 2019 15:24:07 GMT -6
That's a good question to be honest it's probably some deep seated resentment over my own mediocre athletic career but the party line is that I hate the vanity of the whole thing. In the same way I hate when an NFL guy makes a tackle after a 6 yard gain and gets up doing a dance and throat slashing move, or the same reason I hate most of what coaches put on social media....everything is me, me, me, me.....and I hate to sound like an old fogey but I think it is representative of a greater cultural shift, we just don't see selfishness as such a bad thing anymore. I read recently about a speech that was prepared for George Bush (the first one) when he was campaigning for president, he sent it back to the writers and asked them to take out all the references of "Me" and "I" and make the talking points more representative of the party in general, he thought people would find it unbecoming if a guy got up and talked about himself a lot, that was a common idea in his generation, the empty can rattles the loudest. Watch any politician of this era and the difference is astounding I've had meetings with parents and really dejected kids about recruiting, and none of it has to do with actually playing college football, it's all about being able to say that you are getting recruited, it's a status thing among the parents, something to brag about at the golf course. I love college football, and I think it's awesome when kids who really love playing the game get a chance to continue their career, but most of the noise surrounding recruiting that I see has very little to do with football and everything to do with status symbols. Or maybe I'm just upset I never got to tweet about being #blessed to receive an offer, who knows I'm just a regular dude with too much back hair and a dodge stratus Social media is a bane of existence. The negatives it has caused outweigh the positives tenfold. If not more.
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 4, 2019 8:25:33 GMT -6
That's a good question to be honest it's probably some deep seated resentment over my own mediocre athletic career but the party line is that I hate the vanity of the whole thing. In the same way I hate when an NFL guy makes a tackle after a 6 yard gain and gets up doing a dance and throat slashing move, or the same reason I hate most of what coaches put on social media....everything is me, me, me, me.....and I hate to sound like an old fogey but I think it is representative of a greater cultural shift, we just don't see selfishness as such a bad thing anymore. I read recently about a speech that was prepared for George Bush (the first one) when he was campaigning for president, he sent it back to the writers and asked them to take out all the references of "Me" and "I" and make the talking points more representative of the party in general, he thought people would find it unbecoming if a guy got up and talked about himself a lot, that was a common idea in his generation, the empty can rattles the loudest. Watch any politician of this era and the difference is astounding I've had meetings with parents and really dejected kids about recruiting, and none of it has to do with actually playing college football, it's all about being able to say that you are getting recruited, it's a status thing among the parents, something to brag about at the golf course. I love college football, and I think it's awesome when kids who really love playing the game get a chance to continue their career, but most of the noise surrounding recruiting that I see has very little to do with football and everything to do with status symbols. Or maybe I'm just upset I never got to tweet about being #blessed to receive an offer, who knows I'm just a regular dude with too much back hair and a dodge stratus Social media is a bane of existence. The negatives it has caused outweigh the positives tenfold. If not more. the worst and it ain't getting better, and not just kids we have young coach new on the staff fresh faced out of the college...good guy good coach. Set's up his desk in the coaches office, lays out a bunch of Polaroids to put on a cork board. We're talking 45-50 pictures all collaged up like an elementary school project every.picture.is.of.him him playing high school football, him coaching, him and his young wife, him and his baby, him coaching some more, him playing high school football some more, him on the sideline with a really intense face, him celebrating on the sideline, him in the air doing the hip bumb thing with a kid every picture him him him him him him so I had to say something...i mean had to...conversation goes like this "so hey man your just gonna put like 50 pictures up on your desk that are just you doing stuff?" "yeah........." "no disrespect man but you think people might see that as a little narcissistic?" "um....I guess....I mean...I dunno..I don't really know what you are saying....." "okay man never mind cool collage let's go get Nibb High"
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 4, 2019 14:23:50 GMT -6
Social media is a bane of existence. The negatives it has caused outweigh the positives tenfold. If not more. the worst and it ain't getting better, and not just kids we have young coach new on the staff fresh faced out of the college...good guy good coach. Set's up his desk in the coaches office, lays out a bunch of Polaroids to put on a cork board. We're talking 45-50 pictures all collaged up like an elementary school project every.picture.is.of.him him playing high school football, him coaching, him and his young wife, him and his baby, him coaching some more, him playing high school football some more, him on the sideline with a really intense face, him celebrating on the sideline, him in the air doing the hip bumb thing with a kid every picture him him him him him him so I had to say something...i mean had to...conversation goes like this "so hey man your just gonna put like 50 pictures up on your desk that are just you doing stuff?" "yeah........." "no disrespect man but you think people might see that as a little narcissistic?" "um....I guess....I mean...I dunno..I don't really know what you are saying....." "okay man never mind cool collage let's go get Nibb High" I'm legitimately surprised you could get him to look away from his phone long enough to put that many pictures up AND have a conversation. You may have a keeper there. Kids aren't any different than ever before though...
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2019 15:48:52 GMT -6
the worst and it ain't getting better, and not just kids we have young coach new on the staff fresh faced out of the college...good guy good coach. Set's up his desk in the coaches office, lays out a bunch of Polaroids to put on a cork board. We're talking 45-50 pictures all collaged up like an elementary school project every.picture.is.of.him him playing high school football, him coaching, him and his young wife, him and his baby, him coaching some more, him playing high school football some more, him on the sideline with a really intense face, him celebrating on the sideline, him in the air doing the hip bumb thing with a kid every picture him him him him him him so I had to say something...i mean had to...conversation goes like this "so hey man your just gonna put like 50 pictures up on your desk that are just you doing stuff?" "yeah........." "no disrespect man but you think people might see that as a little narcissistic?" "um....I guess....I mean...I dunno..I don't really know what you are saying....." "okay man never mind cool collage let's go get Nibb High" I'm legitimately surprised you could get him to look away from his phone long enough to put that many pictures up AND have a conversation. You may have a keeper there. Kids aren't any different than ever before though... Are the kids different or do they just have better toys?
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 27, 2019 15:01:42 GMT -6
We have a kid trying to pull this....well really it's his dad but same thing every crappy thing about recruiting coming full circle with this jabroni, his kid was full on twitter recruiting warrior the past 3 years, all the emoji's and hashtags bible verses...whole deal so eventually this kid is on enough roids to get beefed up enough to actually get recruited to a mid-major school in the state, his dad...as we have expressed already, is a complete idiot...dad acts like he's the #1 recruit in the nation and must be treated as such, even has the poor kid graduating early so he can go there for spring ball....believe me, this kid is not anywhere near the top of that school's board, and I have no doubt that they never even asked him to grad early for spring ball...he's just doing it because that's what the big time "croots" do so....we are like a week out from our first game and the kid gets an injury...of course it's his "back"...so the dad is immediately on the "we can't jeopardize his scholarship" train and I doubt seriously the kid will play a snap all year so ya.....it has trickled out..the kid is holding out as a high school senior because his dad is an idiot so he's going to miss his senior season, the spring of his senior year, prom, graduation, all of that stuff so he can be fit and ready to go to a college that he will have to work really hard to play special teams at in a year or two and will almost certainly wash out......great plan Coach...I was rereading this old thread (after reading an article about the 2019 college bowl holdouts)... Was curious if this kid signed a few weeks ago?
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 10, 2020 12:18:16 GMT -6
We have a kid trying to pull this....well really it's his dad but same thing every crappy thing about recruiting coming full circle with this jabroni, his kid was full on twitter recruiting warrior the past 3 years, all the emoji's and hashtags bible verses...whole deal so eventually this kid is on enough roids to get beefed up enough to actually get recruited to a mid-major school in the state, his dad...as we have expressed already, is a complete idiot...dad acts like he's the #1 recruit in the nation and must be treated as such, even has the poor kid graduating early so he can go there for spring ball....believe me, this kid is not anywhere near the top of that school's board, and I have no doubt that they never even asked him to grad early for spring ball...he's just doing it because that's what the big time "croots" do so....we are like a week out from our first game and the kid gets an injury...of course it's his "back"...so the dad is immediately on the "we can't jeopardize his scholarship" train and I doubt seriously the kid will play a snap all year so ya.....it has trickled out..the kid is holding out as a high school senior because his dad is an idiot so he's going to miss his senior season, the spring of his senior year, prom, graduation, all of that stuff so he can be fit and ready to go to a college that he will have to work really hard to play special teams at in a year or two and will almost certainly wash out......great plan Coach...I was rereading this old thread (after reading an article about the 2019 college bowl holdouts)... Was curious if this kid signed a few weeks ago? hahahaha! brother this is one the things I've been the most happy in my life to be wrong about. Than and not marrying my high school sweetheart but that's a whole other story the kid came back from injury and did an unbelievable job for us this season, signed and is now on campus at the school. I'm still not sold that him graduating early was a great idea, but he ended up having a hell of year and being really coachable and fun to be around dad is still an idiot but he can't help it
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