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Post by PSS on Oct 3, 2016 10:01:36 GMT -6
Two weeks ago we lost to a team that we had no business losing to. We were in it until the last play but couldn't pull it out. Defense lined up incorrectly multiple times, offense turned the ball over. IMO, the kids were focused but tried too hard to win it as individuals.
This last week we lost a heart breaker to the #7 team in the state. Game was back and forth all night. We finally got a couple of stops to allow our offense to score and go ahead with 1:07 left in the game. They get the ball on the 27 after the kickoff, converted a 4th down with a 11 seconds left to get in FG range. Then kicked a FG wi 5 seconds left to win.
We're 3-2 facing a must win this week for the playoffs. Again, it's a team we should beat.
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Post by hammer66 on Oct 3, 2016 10:25:28 GMT -6
Dropped to 0-5 on Friday...next three weeks we play the three best teams in our conference. Let's just say we dont match up very well. Anyone ever had a year that makes you questions everything you do as a program, from the offense you run to the socks you wear. How about 4...in a row
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 3, 2016 10:57:09 GMT -6
for the past 3 weeks ive been missing one of my 3 starting running backs due to "mid school year vacation" - aparently thats the thing here.... i blew up at a mom who told me that the first week... probably not the best career move but whatever :-P 3 weeks ago - my starting halfback informs me that his parents are taking him for a week to mexico 2 weeks ago - my starting fullback informs me that his parents are taking him for a week to hawaii last week - my starting wingback went camping for a week. i dont blame todays youth...i blame the 80s and 90s parents for creating the 2000s parents that we are dealing with. It comes down to priorities. Youth sports and even high school sports in some areas just aren't that important to kids anymore. It's seen more as a "chance for my kid to run around and have fun with his friends" than a competitive contest. Sports just aren't the kids' or parent's number one priority anymore. Let's be realistic, HS sports have never been "important". Let's stop blowing ourselves up here. It's a freaking game. All it has ever been, or ever will be is a chance for kids to run around and have fun with their friends. Despite your view, or your job security, winning or losing games will mean absolutely nothing to that kid's future success. That being said, teaching someone to honor previous commitments is important. That is what is lacking here.
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Post by spos21ram on Oct 3, 2016 11:04:49 GMT -6
It comes down to priorities. Youth sports and even high school sports in some areas just aren't that important to kids anymore. It's seen more as a "chance for my kid to run around and have fun with his friends" than a competitive contest. Sports just aren't the kids' or parent's number one priority anymore. Let's be realistic, HS sports have never been "important". Let's stop blowing ourselves up here. It's a freaking game. All it has ever been, or ever will be is a chance for kids to run around and have fun with their friends. Despite your view, or your job security, winning or losing games will mean absolutely nothing to that kid's future success. That being said, teaching someone to honor previous commitments is important. That is what is lacking here. I disagree. There are some cultures where after family, football is #1. In great programs the whole team has this mentality. In good ones most have it. In bad ones the majority do not. For me personally, I never missed practice or a game for anything when I was playing.
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 4, 2016 4:58:41 GMT -6
Let's be realistic, HS sports have never been "important". Let's stop blowing ourselves up here. It's a freaking game. All it has ever been, or ever will be is a chance for kids to run around and have fun with their friends. Despite your view, or your job security, winning or losing games will mean absolutely nothing to that kid's future success. That being said, teaching someone to honor previous commitments is important. That is what is lacking here. I disagree. There are some cultures where after family, football is #1. In great programs the whole team has this mentality. In good ones most have it. In bad ones the majority do not. For me personally, I never missed practice or a game for anything when I was playing. Neither have I, but that has nothing to do with the sport itself. That is how I was raised by my parents.
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Post by dytmook on Oct 4, 2016 21:51:03 GMT -6
We had that year last year. Looking better this year at 3-3 but this week has been something.
Starting OLB/FB is pulled from school because his dad thinks we are wasting the talent of the best back in the area. Starting Mike/TE is probably down with a concussion after today. Original starting TE broke his collar bone several weeks ago. Now a freshman starting at mike and no depth at our Y and LB group.
We have all been there and it doesn't take much for stuff to roll down hill.
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Post by rsmith627 on Oct 5, 2016 10:22:44 GMT -6
We had that year last year. Looking better this year at 3-3 but this week has been something. Starting OLB/FB is pulled from school because his dad thinks we are wasting the talent of the best back in the area. Starting Mike/TE is probably down with a concussion after today. Original starting TE broke his collar bone several weeks ago. Now a freshman starting at mike and no depth at our Y and LB group. We have all been there and it doesn't take much for stuff to roll down hill. We tied a team that we had no business tying, but probably should have actually beat us with the way we played. The issue with this is we have an exceptional group of kids. They seem to be ok with mediocrity. I know I know, if you see it it's because you tolerate it and we have been addressing that appropriately this week. Man this group of kids can be frustrating as awesome as they are. Probably going to be 7-1-1 when the season is over when it really should have been 9-0. Note: I am not griping about our record. I know there are guys in places that would kill for that record out of their 10th graders. To me it is about work ethic and this generation's acceptance of being average.
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Post by pistolwhipped on Oct 5, 2016 11:29:44 GMT -6
Three strongest kids in the program and 2 way starters OL- transferred to large school for exposure--> GONE OL- torn pinkie ligament--> surgery OUT RB- torn meniscus--> surgery OUT
Starters out just this week plus those above. S/WR- torn ACL--> OUT RB- broken tibia--> OUT MLB- concussion--> OUT NT- shoulder--> OUT LT/DE- dislocated knee--> OUT
This is for program that had 40 max kids Day 1.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 5, 2016 12:54:55 GMT -6
I feel you.
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Post by hsrose on Oct 5, 2016 15:18:45 GMT -6
We're coming up on the end of the quarter next week, the 14th, meaning some of our players will be leaving us after that game because they have not been getting their grades.
One kid has 4 F's. 1 in Digital Photography. 1 in PE, he says the female teacher hates him because he asked her for her number. 1 in Advisory, which is the do your homework class. The other is in Biology which apparently he can fix if he would turn in the homework. He's a sophomore. Could be pretty good but he was raised by his biker gang father so he has a different outlook on authority figures.
Two brothers are looking at social probation, which means no extracurricular activities at all for 6 weeks, because they can't get up in the morning. They both have 8 tardy's and on 10, they go social probation, school board policy. Just too tired to get to school on time on Mondays and Wednesdays.
Just got an email from a parent, a local pastor, who informed me that if his son gets an F he will remove him from the team. Hey dad, here were you 4 weeks ago when you could have done something about this? This is the same player that we suspended 2 games for an incident in the lunch line with a girl. Was a deal with the school so he would not get a sexual harassment incident. I'm there when he tells dad, the preacher, that he's not clear on what happened, or why this is an issue. Reality is he told the girl, after he 'bumped' her and she called him on it, that he hoped she would commit $%^*(^ suicide and (*&^$& die. But that's not what he told dad. And because we/football handled it, dad doesn't know the details.
Just got a new player yesterday. Foster care, has not yet been to school this year. Transferred here by the system because he is under a death sentence by a gang in his home town. Parents are both dead, he's 14 and a freshmen. AD tells me that he's cleared to play even though he has not been in school a day, and was in 4 middle schools the last 2 years. If there's no grades then they can't make him ineligible. This kid is one that you want to help succeed, he's talking like he wants to change his life. The other kid, 4-F's, has done nothing to earn any goodwill from anyone so he is likely to get fried.
The past 2 years I have been doing academic progress reports so I can keep up on the grades. Hand them out to the players on Monday, turn them back in before the end of school on Friday. I'm not a teacher/admin here so I don't have access to the online system so I can't check grades. I had the latest set all ready to go, all printed up and sitting on the desk. The new AD comes to visit, to let me know that a school board member was upset at the wait time for coffee in the snack shack line last Friday and that the boosters have to to a better job of things. He has been a teacher for a long time here, never signed the previous progress reports. Now as the AD, he tells me that the does not support my progress reports, thinks they are of no value, does not believe in them, they have tried that before, and that I need to get one of my coaches, the only one I have that is on staff, the Assistant Principal (like he's got time, hard to get him to practice with all his admin duties), to run the grade checks on the kids. But, he warned me that even that doesn't work because the teachers generally don't enter the grades until next week when the quarter ends. I remember watching a grade for my daughter here go from a D to an A to a C and finally a B all in one day as the teacher entered grades. So bottom line is my AD does not support me trying to get the grades for the players.
Otherwise this year is going really well. Best team in a long time, might just make the playoffs, might win 6/7 games and have the best record since 2001 if we win more than 5. Couple of injuries here and there, 4 concussions total after 5 games, but nothing like it was the past couple of years.
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 6, 2016 6:22:48 GMT -6
Good grief y'all are making it hard to enjoy this undefeated season and conference championship.
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Post by bigmoot on Oct 6, 2016 6:35:51 GMT -6
Good grief y'all are making it hard to enjoy this undefeated season and conference championship. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<CENSORED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy it...
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2016 9:22:45 GMT -6
Before practice on Tuesday a kid asked me how he could get some playing time. That was after he skipped practice on Monday.
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 6, 2016 10:28:12 GMT -6
We just lost another one yesterday.
This time it was a kid that decided to do a back flip off of the stage at lunch....the good new is he only broke his elbow and not his neck.
Trying to stay optimistic.
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Post by hammer66 on Oct 6, 2016 11:06:58 GMT -6
We just lost another one yesterday. This time it was a kid that decided to do a back flip off of the stage at lunch....the good new is he only broke his elbow and not his neck. Trying to stay optimistic. Your making me feel better every post.....
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 6, 2016 11:28:03 GMT -6
Just to join in, we finished an undefeated regular season Tuesday night with a 50 point win and I've got players/parents mad because the starters only got to play til halftime on 'their' 8th grade night. We were up 40 at the time. And the kids that subbed for them were mostly 8th graders too.
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Post by johnnycam on Oct 7, 2016 10:40:31 GMT -6
Got beat 57-0., the third straight game in which we've had a running clock. ... Thing is, the score was 0-0 after the first quarter but whenever we got a bad break we folded.
I don't coach... but the team my son is on has a total of 4 seniors, and 4 juniors - the rest are soph and frosh. (It's a long story... the program is in just about the worst shape I've ever seen, anywhere). We've had more games with a running clock than without. Been outscored a million to 40 (give or take). Had a few injuries, plus a few concussions, too.
It's an absolute mess. But, your comment about folding after a bad break resonates loud and clear. The team goes into games not just expecting to lose, but expecting to lose badly. Even if they're keeping it close, they're always just kind of waiting for something to go wrong... and then the flood gates open up and the rout is on.
There are a few decent athletes in the younger classes, but the problem is going to be keeping the kids involved. Many of them are losing heart and might not be back next year. It's a pretty viscous cycle... a bit of a catch 22 - because in order to keep the kids involved (and bring in new kids), you have to win... but in order to win, you need to keep the kids involved (and bring in new kids).
Anyhow... just venting... and letting you know that there are others out here going through much the same thing.
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 7, 2016 11:33:26 GMT -6
Told this story before here. From 1999 to 2010 the teams I coached on won 90% of the games we played. At one point we averaged 11 wins a season. I took a couple years off (2011 and 2012). Since I've come back we've won 7 games in 4 years. I could write a book about why. Tonight we have a chance to win in conference for the first time in 4 years. (winless in the last 3 seasons and only 5 conference wins since 2011). Selfishly...if my own kids weren't in the program I wouldn't be doing it anymore.
Some of these stories in the thread are crazy. Keep up the good work fellows.
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Post by 33coach on Oct 8, 2016 22:19:38 GMT -6
well im pretty sure my team just set a record...and not in a good way.
we were up 16-6 at the start of the 4th quarter.
the opponent scored 40 unanswered points in the last ten minutes.....
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Post by rudyrude9 on Oct 13, 2016 12:00:08 GMT -6
We just lost another one yesterday. This time it was a kid that decided to do a back flip off of the stage at lunch....the good new is he only broke his elbow and not his neck. Trying to stay optimistic.
We had our two starting corners doing back flips in front of the student section after we beat the #4 Team in the state to tie them in the conference standings.
Unreal. Back flips in unison in full pads. Sick athletes!
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Post by fantom on Oct 24, 2016 12:50:21 GMT -6
A sign of how weird this season has been: We cancelled our Sunday staff meeting. That's not because we've thrown in the towel or are taking our opponent lightly. There just isn't anything to talk about. The film is on HUDL. Because of injuries the roster is depleted so there's no need to talk personnel. Because we're so young we couldn't change a lot offensively or defensively if we wanted to. Schematically our opponent runs almost exactly same stuff as we've seem the last two weeks.
The eird thing is that if we win we'll end up 3-7 but still have a chance of making the playoffs.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 25, 2016 7:11:31 GMT -6
It's not so much the season/wins/losses/kids for me this year, as it is the schedule.
We have a 10 week regular season, but in SC you can petition to play what we call Week Zero; the week usually everyone has their last jamboree/end of preseason.
We had a odd number of teams in our region, so we married up with the next region over that was also in the same boat and drew lots to match up.
So we worked it out with the team we drew to move the game back to the non-region portion of our schedule and then scheduled a Week Zero game. That way we had a bye week during region play.
Then hurricane Matthew came the week of our bye week. It didn't really affect the Upstate and we had a bye week anyway, but the weather and subsequent flooding cause many schools to miss 2 weeks of school. So the HSL pushed back the start of playoffs 2 weeks to allow those missed games to be made up before the playoffs started. That meant that half the state would have had 2 weeks after the conclusion of the regular season before the playoffs started. So the HSL allowed teams to move one of their final games back a week to alleviate this long lay off. We moved our last game back a week.
Original schedule: Regular season - Week 0 (August 19)/Week 1 (August 26) - Week 10 (October 28) with a bye Week 7 for us Play offs - Round 1 (November 4) - Finals (December 20)
New Schedule - Week 0/1 - Week 10+2 (November 11) Playoffs - Round 1 (November 18) - Finals (December 17)
So, our end of the year run looks like this: Sept 30 Region game #1 October 7 original bye week October 14 Region game #2 October 21 Region game #3 October 28 bye week/original final region game/Week 10 November 4 Region game #4 November 11 bye week/end of regular season November 18 Playoffs start
So that means that from the start of region play (this determines who makes the playoffs and where you are seeded) until the beginning of the 1st round of the play offs we play 4 games in a 42 day period.
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Post by bigmoot on Oct 25, 2016 7:25:14 GMT -6
It's not so much the season/wins/losses/kids for me this year, as it is the schedule. We have a 10 week regular season, but in SC you can petition to play what we call Week Zero; the week usually everyone has their last jamboree/end of preseason. We had a odd number of teams in our region, so we married up with the next region over that was also in the same boat and drew lots to match up. So we worked it out with the team we drew to move the game back to the non-region portion of our schedule and then scheduled a Week Zero game. That way we had a bye week during region play. Then hurricane Matthew came the week of our bye week. It didn't really affect the Upstate and we had a bye week anyway, but the weather and subsequent flooding cause many schools to miss 2 weeks of school. So the HSL pushed back the start of playoffs 2 weeks to allow those missed games to be made up before the playoffs started. That meant that half the state would have had 2 weeks after the conclusion of the regular season before the playoffs started. So the HSL allowed teams to move one of their final games back a week to alleviate this long lay off. We moved our last game back a week. Original schedule: Regular season - Week 0 (August 19)/Week 1 (August 26) - Week 10 (October 28) with a bye Week 7 for us Play offs - Round 1 (November 4) - Finals (December 20) New Schedule - Week 0/1 - Week 10+2 (November 11) Playoffs - Round 1 (November 18) - Finals (December 17) So, our end of the year run looks like this: Sept 30 Region game #1 October 7 original bye week October 14 Region game #2 October 21 Region game #3 October 28 bye week/original final region game/Week 10 November 4 Region game #4 November 11 bye week/end of regular season November 18 Playoffs start So that means that from the start of region play (this determines who makes the playoffs and where you are seeded) until the beginning of the 1st round of the play offs we play 4 games in a 42 day period. Georgia coast got hammered as well. Our schedule to end the year is/was Wed. Oct 19 Mon. Oct 24 Sat. Oct 29 Fri. Nov 4 Not much rest in between. Small roster...tough times
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 25, 2016 7:51:35 GMT -6
bigmootThat is what was happening last year during the "1000 year" flood last season, and the HSL got all worried about the ramifications of playing so many games within a short period of time in the age of the concussion. After about it shook out and some teams were going to be playing Mon/Thurs/Sat/Tues/Friday to make things up, they pushed back the play offs a week. So as soon as the weather hit this year, they pushed things back a week, then when the flooding hit another week. At least our biggest worry is what to do during these layoffs. Some places have kids that weren't at home, coaches hadn't seen their kids in weeks, didn't have power, schools being used as shelters, etc...
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Post by bigmoot on Oct 25, 2016 8:32:22 GMT -6
GHSA wouldnt budge on playoff dates. MOney and the GA Dome seemed to more important that the health of a few players from a handfull of small schools.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 25, 2016 12:19:48 GMT -6
Luckily, the USC stadium schedule isn't that tight. However, any kid that was to be part of the All Star games that is still in the playoffs will miss those for that very reason
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Post by poundtherock1 on Oct 26, 2016 9:14:58 GMT -6
It's not so much the season/wins/losses/kids for me this year, as it is the schedule. We have a 10 week regular season, but in SC you can petition to play what we call Week Zero; the week usually everyone has their last jamboree/end of preseason. We had a odd number of teams in our region, so we married up with the next region over that was also in the same boat and drew lots to match up. So we worked it out with the team we drew to move the game back to the non-region portion of our schedule and then scheduled a Week Zero game. That way we had a bye week during region play. Then hurricane Matthew came the week of our bye week. It didn't really affect the Upstate and we had a bye week anyway, but the weather and subsequent flooding cause many schools to miss 2 weeks of school. So the HSL pushed back the start of playoffs 2 weeks to allow those missed games to be made up before the playoffs started. That meant that half the state would have had 2 weeks after the conclusion of the regular season before the playoffs started. So the HSL allowed teams to move one of their final games back a week to alleviate this long lay off. We moved our last game back a week. Original schedule: Regular season - Week 0 (August 19)/Week 1 (August 26) - Week 10 (October 28) with a bye Week 7 for us Play offs - Round 1 (November 4) - Finals (December 20) New Schedule - Week 0/1 - Week 10+2 (November 11) Playoffs - Round 1 (November 18) - Finals (December 17) So, our end of the year run looks like this: Sept 30 Region game #1 October 7 original bye week October 14 Region game #2 October 21 Region game #3 October 28 bye week/original final region game/Week 10 November 4 Region game #4 November 11 bye week/end of regular season November 18 Playoffs start So that means that from the start of region play (this determines who makes the playoffs and where you are seeded) until the beginning of the 1st round of the play offs we play 4 games in a 42 day period. Feel you. In NC, our schedule makers graciously gave us our bye week the last week of the regular season (This sucks). Then they moved the playoffs back to start November 18th, much like yours. So we will play Friday night, October 28th, and not play again until November 18th.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 26, 2016 9:28:44 GMT -6
poundtherock1 Yeah that is why we wanted to move our game this week back a week. There is a school near that had worked their schedule so that they would have this week as a bye, right before the playoffs. So they don't have a game to move. They will go 28 days between their last game and their first game of the playoffs. Of course it could be worse. Another school near here pushed back this week's game to next week. Then, as it turned out, last week's game was a make or break game for them. The lost and now have just extended their season with no hope to continue.
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Post by humble on Oct 26, 2016 11:25:17 GMT -6
We had 28 kids. Due to concussions, knees, shoulders, broken feet and 4 quitting we went down to 13. It can always be worse my man.
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Post by rosey65 on Oct 27, 2016 6:42:53 GMT -6
We just lost another one yesterday. This time it was a kid that decided to do a back flip off of the stage at lunch....the good new is he only broke his elbow and not his neck. Trying to stay optimistic.
We had our two starting corners doing back flips in front of the student section after we beat the #4 Team in the state to tie them in the conference standings.
Unreal. Back flips in unison in full pads. Sick athletes!
Spontaneous back-handsprings after the homecoming pep rally. This had been going on for a while, I couldn't get my camera out in time...
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