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Post by ccoupelin on Feb 13, 2016 7:41:22 GMT -6
So a program in our district created a "Director of Football Operations" job for their program going in to next season. No team in our state, from my understanding, has this position in their program. It sounds like it could be a good move, but I was wondering what that would even look like on a HS level. My question to you all is if you had the opportunity to have a DFO then what would you have them do for your program? Thanks in advance for any input.
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Post by utchuckd on Feb 13, 2016 8:42:20 GMT -6
Probably all the administrative stuff. Paperwork, inventory, making sure everything is taken care of for games (buses for away games, field set up/staffing for home games), booster club liason?.
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Post by blb on Feb 13, 2016 8:45:16 GMT -6
Anything that the HC doesn't want to or have to do.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 13, 2016 9:20:23 GMT -6
So a program in our district created a "Director of Football Operations" job for their program going in to next season. No team in our state, from my understanding, has this position in their program. It sounds like it could be a good move, but I was wondering what that would even look like on a HS level. My question to you all is if you had the opportunity to have a DFO then what would you have them do for your program? Thanks in advance for any input. Sounds like it is just another stipend position that they want to use to perform administrative functions as opposed to being an on the field coach. Not really a big deal. |
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Post by ccoupelin on Feb 13, 2016 10:04:07 GMT -6
No doubt. Thanks for the input Coaches.
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Post by lochness on Feb 13, 2016 10:13:00 GMT -6
We have one where I coach. We use a different title though. We call it "Team Mom."
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Post by chi5hi on Feb 13, 2016 11:36:13 GMT -6
Anything that the HC doesn't want to or have to do. AND...remove the word "FOOTBALL" from his title. Then you can call him something like...Oh, I don't know...Athletic Director...that title kind of has has a "ring" to it. |
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Post by DLgaDC on Feb 13, 2016 13:55:00 GMT -6
Did that school get a few new players to go along with giving that guy the job?!
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Post by dijackson08 on Feb 13, 2016 14:56:46 GMT -6
I've coached in a program that had this position. The guy was a former HC, and his duties included scheduling, site coordination at football games, handling fundraising, ordering equipment, and coaching a position.
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Post by ccoupelin on Feb 13, 2016 15:08:30 GMT -6
The DFO of the school in our district was the former HC. He got replaced and then the position was created. Didn't like that aspect of it because it seemed kinda suspect, but the idea of having a person to handle paperwork, scheduling, etc. did seem like a plus. Filling out piles of forms for various requests from the school is something that I would be more than happy to pass on.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 13, 2016 16:06:54 GMT -6
This isn't something I would ever see the need for in any of the programs I have been with and certainly not if it's any kind of fulltime position. If it is something a retired coach/teacher could do for a typical assistants stipend...maybe...
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Post by ccoupelin on Feb 13, 2016 20:27:27 GMT -6
This isn't something I would ever see the need for in any of the programs I have been with and certainly not if it's any kind of fulltime position. If it is something a retired coach/teacher could do for a typical assistants stipend...maybe... It is an assistant stipend from my understanding. |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 13, 2016 20:39:38 GMT -6
"paperwork b!tch"
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 13, 2016 20:41:45 GMT -6
If your school has a fulltime AD I dont see this position as being relevant. All the stuff a DFO does is what the AD is suppose to be doing. Now if it's a school with a part time AD that only gets a stipend then I can see it being useful.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 13, 2016 21:17:44 GMT -6
If your school has a fulltime AD I dont see this position as being relevant. All the stuff a DFO does is what the AD is suppose to be doing. Now if it's a school with a part time AD that only gets a stipend then I can see it being useful. I think you will find that what an AD is "supposed to do" will vary greatly from school to school and system to system. |
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Post by coachtua on Feb 14, 2016 1:22:34 GMT -6
Our DL coach retired and was "promoted" to DFO. He handled banquet planning, fund raising, special events (we hosted a big military appreciation weekend at our school), special meals (alumni wanting to BBQ for team for successful season, meals for far road games where our normal pregame meal wasn't an option), program sponsorships/donations.
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Post by carookie on Feb 15, 2016 10:08:50 GMT -6
We have one where I coach. We use a different title though. We call it "Team Mom." We have one as well, and this is exactly what it is. Although we had a different one a couple years back who was the DFO/Equipment manager (made sure the headsets were good and the blood jerseys were ready) |
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Post by gibbs72 on Feb 15, 2016 11:00:33 GMT -6
We had one. Coached RB's on the field and head JV coach. He took care of everything related to equipment, travel, banquets, media requests, and any other administrative stuff our HC didn't/ couldn't deal with. An invaluable position IMO.
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Post by olinedude on Feb 15, 2016 11:57:30 GMT -6
We have a guy who we call our DFO even though its not exactly his title. In Texas most schools require you have two sports. We have a guy who is a baseball coach, but we have all our position groups covered so he handles the off the field stuff. He handles all the film upload and management, handles music during practice, helps make sure uniform stuff is ready to go, and you could add a lot of other off the field stuff to that as well. If I were creating that position the main goal would be to use it like colleges: Take as much off the plate of position coaches so they can focus on handling their position group.
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 15, 2016 20:46:33 GMT -6
It would depend on the scale of your program. If you have a huge program in Texas then you'll probably have a guy who handles the miscellany that comes up. He'll probably be a position coach as well, so he might be like LB coach/DFO, but he handles a lot of stuff, far more than a normal assistant.
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Post by lochness on Feb 15, 2016 21:45:59 GMT -6
"I don't always hire a football secretary, but when I do, I prefer to call it a Director of Football Operations."
Stay thirsty, my friends.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Feb 15, 2016 22:03:28 GMT -6
We were playing in the state tournament last year so they were making a "special" game program and they were going to list and announce the assistants before the game, but you could only put like 5 coaches. We saw the opponent's list a couple days before the game and they had a DFO listed.
We have a guy who doesn't coach a position, isn't there every day, but wants to be part of the program and has been around for over 20 years. He keeps a script of our play calls and the defensive alignment on game nights that we use for film the next day, high fives kids, tries to keep their spirits up, and flips out on officials if we lose, thats his role. That guy was announced as our DFO before the game.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 16, 2016 0:09:55 GMT -6
never used the title, but reading all of the responses
one of my many duties would probably be DFO
(no it doesnt mean Dumb & F***ing Obnoxious)
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 16, 2016 8:02:42 GMT -6
never used the title, but reading all of the responses one of my many duties would probably be DFO (no it doesnt mean Dumb & F***ing Obnoxious) I think the distinction is between a position coach/on field coach doing the administrative tasks, and having a stipend for someone who does the administrative stuff but doesn't coach on the field.
Personally, if the district is creating a position with a stipend I would be most here would benefit more from another football coach than someone handling administrative stuff. Now, we are talking about one of those situations with 7-8 varsity coaches, 4-5 JV coaches (separate from Varsity) and 4-5 Frosh Coaches (separate from Varsity and JV) then I could see a HC using a newly created position for the off field administrative asst issues.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 16, 2016 9:36:28 GMT -6
We had a special needs student who was team manager. He graduated high school several years ago, but has never left the program. We named him our DOFO. He takes the new job title very seriously.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 16, 2016 9:52:44 GMT -6
i think we have some female students who are applying to be the director of operating football players
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Post by newhope on Feb 16, 2016 11:12:28 GMT -6
I actually had one who was a volunteer guy. He started as the "equipment guy". But as time went more, he volunteered to take on more and more stuff. He basically made sure that wherever we went--practice, games, 7 on 7, scrimmage, camp, whatever--that we had whatever we needed. Coaches didn't have to worry about a lot of the stuff that went on outside of coaching, other than items that I as head coach had to do. One day at Pete Lembo's football camp, Pete said "that guy is way to valuable to call your equipment guy--you've got to make him DFO." So we did. He loved the title
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Post by John Knight on Feb 16, 2016 11:16:30 GMT -6
I think many places have an Assistant Head Coach for such duties as well.
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Post by blb on Feb 16, 2016 11:38:08 GMT -6
I designated our most organized, conscientious assistant the "Paperwork coach," and most technologically-gifted the "Video coach."
Each assistant was responsible to take care of equipment needs for their position kids.
If no trainer was available an assistant was going to have to tend to boo boos and owies. I was going to coach the team. After all I was the Head COACH.
That's why I became a HC - so I wouldn't have to do that crap, could delegate counting tail pads and taping ankles. Otherwise I would've been perfectly happy as an assistant.
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Post by coachirish on Feb 23, 2016 7:09:13 GMT -6
So a program in our district created a "Director of Football Operations" job for their program going in to next season. No team in our state, from my understanding, has this position in their program. It sounds like it could be a good move, but I was wondering what that would even look like on a HS level. My question to you all is if you had the opportunity to have a DFO then what would you have them do for your program? Thanks in advance for any input. What state are you in? |
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