fugulookinat
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Post by fugulookinat on Feb 23, 2016 19:43:35 GMT -6
We've got one. He does video and secretarial type work. He coaches no players.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 23, 2016 20:52:48 GMT -6
Previous stop, our DFO was a retired ref from the area that was looking for something to do to get out of the house and away from the wife.
He blew the horn to change periods at practice and advised us on how refs would call things during practice.
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Post by gambler00 on Feb 23, 2016 21:15:07 GMT -6
Every staff has them. Sometimes it's all the asst coaches. Sometimes it's the hc especially of the ceo variety.
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Post by ccoupelin on Feb 24, 2016 20:35:53 GMT -6
So a program in our district created a "Director of Football Operations" job for their program going in to next season. No team in our state, from my understanding, has this position in their program. It sounds like it could be a good move, but I was wondering what that would even look like on a HS level. My question to you all is if you had the opportunity to have a DFO then what would you have them do for your program? Thanks in advance for any input. What state are you in? AZ
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Post by gibbs72 on Feb 24, 2016 20:51:12 GMT -6
I'm in Kansas and we had one. Sometimes it's hard to be on a staff without one. I never realized just how much he did until he's not around to do all the little things
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 28, 2020 8:44:13 GMT -6
If your school has a fulltime AD I dont see this position as being relevant. All the stuff a DFO does is what the AD is suppose to be doing. Now if it's a school with a part time AD that only gets a stipend then I can see it being useful. What if you have a full time AD and 2 Asst. ADs (get an extra planning, coach nothing)?
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Post by bluboy on Feb 28, 2020 11:07:00 GMT -6
My school has an AD and an assistant AD. Assistant AD is really a glorified "go-for". He does a ton of clerical work and is considered the administrator onsite for athletic events; he does not do anything sport-specific for any team other than check eligibility and that players have turned in all paperwork.
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Post by fantom on Feb 28, 2020 11:16:02 GMT -6
Didn't realize how old this thread was until I saw "likes" from Brophy and John Knight.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Feb 28, 2020 23:26:48 GMT -6
We used to have one listed in our program, but it wasn't a paid position and was basically done as a joke/to throw a bone to a guy who was always around and was passionate about our program but wasn't doing any day to day coaching.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 29, 2020 9:39:30 GMT -6
Didn't realize how old this thread was until I saw "likes" from Brophy and John Knight. Now that you're retired, I've to give you something to keep you busy. I almost pulled the DFO thread from 2009.
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Post by newhope on Mar 2, 2020 8:53:43 GMT -6
Anything that the HC doesn't want to or have to do. AND...remove the word "FOOTBALL" from his title. Then you can call him something like...Oh, I don't know...Athletic Director...that title kind of has has a "ring" to it. The Director of Football Operations isn't doing the AD's job. He's doing football related work, so "football" certainly belongs in his title. I've had several. The duties changed somewhat with the individual. My first one took care of equipment, laundry--but also travel arrangements and managed some paperwork and day to day operations. He did not coach. He was a guy who's duties expanded over time, and he got a title commiserate with his duties. My second one did some equipment, but he did more paperwork, scheduling, technology--and he coached a position. He was handling a lot of day to day operations other than equipment and laundry. The third was similar to the second in terms of duties and responsibilities. The last two handled a lot of in the building stuff while I was teaching classes. None of them did the AD's job.
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Post by ssm on Mar 2, 2020 9:24:31 GMT -6
At the collegiate level, the DFO is responsible for overseeing all off-site functions such as hotels, meals, transportation. He or she is also sometimes responsible for overseeing the recruiting staff & coordinating all of their functions within the recruiting weekend. Also in some places, that individual is responsible for overseeing the football equipment staff. If the program is small enough, like the one I worked in at Northeastern, the duties of the DFO will fall onto the assistants.
At the HS level this individual's role should be all-encompassing, equipment, video coordination, pre-game meals, bus travel, game & practice schedule coordination, liaising between the school's administrative & academic staff, & acting as liaison between the coaching staff & the booster club. They should also be allowed to oversee the team's budget as well.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 2, 2020 11:10:36 GMT -6
Our program has recently made a change and the new HC wants to incorporate some the college level 'player/program development' into our school's football program. I have been moved into this Director of Operations role. Being as these positions are used more at the college and professional level, I pulled every job listing I could find. Then I've been trying to translate this to the HS level. There are some other off field positions that are being created that will not be fielded by coaches, but the DFO could possibly coach also. We have had several conversations to figure out how to make this work.
This is what the HC has whittled it down to: -Travel Planning: bussing, trip logistics, after practice buses, staff trips, meals, over night logistics -Liaison Work: TD Club, alumni association, faculty/staff, Little League, Shrine Bow (all star game uses our facility to practice), School Hall of Fame, camps/clinics, middle schools -Meals Planning: pregame, post game, after practice, summer, staff family outings, Friday SR breakfast, halftime nutrition -Program: fundraising, eligibility, faculty coach of the week, Meet the Team
We're going to hopefully enlist the aid of a faculty member to head up our Academic Services: weekly grades check, study hall, tutoring, GPA, SAT/ACT, NCAA eligibility/clearing house, scholarship opportunities.
Got someone who doesn't coach that handles equipment. He also does a lot to help the HC, with ball boys/water boys, helping with cloth orders, etc...
S&S coach does a lot with teaching nutrition, performance/recovery, psychology. He comes out to help with warm up/pregame, but doesn't coach.
Off field guy handles video.
Got an on field coach that will help with recruiting: profiles, recruiting guide, etc... He works in guidance.
My question: What is missing? I know that this position could cover a wide range of duties and jobs. This and the other positions are the vision of the HC, and of course putting this into actuality may be very different. I just want to make sure I am doing a good job and am adding value to the program. When I got done pulling job descriptions, I finally just told him that the best thing to do might be to answer the questions, "What do you need a DFO to do, that will all YOU to be the best HC here?"
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Post by ssm on Mar 3, 2020 5:35:00 GMT -6
Our program has recently made a change and the new HC wants to incorporate some the college level 'player/program development' into our school's football program. I have been moved into this Director of Operations role. Being as these positions are used more at the college and professional level, I pulled every job listing I could find. Then I've been trying to translate this to the HS level. There are some other off field positions that are being created that will not be fielded by coaches, but the DFO could possibly coach also. We have had several conversations to figure out how to make this work. This is what the HC has whittled it down to: - Travel Planning: bussing, trip logistics, after practice buses, staff trips, meals, over night logistics - Liaison Work: TD Club, alumni association, faculty/staff, Little League, Shrine Bow (all star game uses our facility to practice), School Hall of Fame, camps/clinics, middle schools - Meals Planning: pregame, post game, after practice, summer, staff family outings, Friday SR breakfast, halftime nutrition - Program: fundraising, eligibility, faculty coach of the week, Meet the Team We're going to hopefully enlist the aid of a faculty member to head up our Academic Services: weekly grades check, study hall, tutoring, GPA, SAT/ACT, NCAA eligibility/clearing house, scholarship opportunities. Got someone who doesn't coach that handles equipment. He also does a lot to help the HC, with ball boys/water boys, helping with cloth orders, etc... S&S coach does a lot with teaching nutrition, performance/recovery, psychology. He comes out to help with warm up/pregame, but doesn't coach. Off field guy handles video. Got an on field coach that will help with recruiting: profiles, recruiting guide, etc... He works in guidance. My question: What is missing? I know that this position could cover a wide range of duties and jobs. This and the other positions are the vision of the HC, and of course putting this into actuality may be very different. I just want to make sure I am doing a good job and am adding value to the program. When I got done pulling job descriptions, I finally just told him that the best thing to do might be to answer the questions, "What do you need a DFO to do, that will all YOU to be the best HC here?" Coach, you've hit the nail on the head. Roll with this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 8:39:24 GMT -6
Our program has recently made a change and the new HC wants to incorporate some the college level 'player/program development' into our school's football program. I have been moved into this Director of Operations role. Being as these positions are used more at the college and professional level, I pulled every job listing I could find. Then I've been trying to translate this to the HS level. There are some other off field positions that are being created that will not be fielded by coaches, but the DFO could possibly coach also. We have had several conversations to figure out how to make this work. This is what the HC has whittled it down to: - Travel Planning: bussing, trip logistics, after practice buses, staff trips, meals, over night logistics - Liaison Work: TD Club, alumni association, faculty/staff, Little League, Shrine Bow (all star game uses our facility to practice), School Hall of Fame, camps/clinics, middle schools - Meals Planning: pregame, post game, after practice, summer, staff family outings, Friday SR breakfast, halftime nutrition - Program: fundraising, eligibility, faculty coach of the week, Meet the Team We're going to hopefully enlist the aid of a faculty member to head up our Academic Services: weekly grades check, study hall, tutoring, GPA, SAT/ACT, NCAA eligibility/clearing house, scholarship opportunities. Got someone who doesn't coach that handles equipment. He also does a lot to help the HC, with ball boys/water boys, helping with cloth orders, etc... S&S coach does a lot with teaching nutrition, performance/recovery, psychology. He comes out to help with warm up/pregame, but doesn't coach. Off field guy handles video. Got an on field coach that will help with recruiting: profiles, recruiting guide, etc... He works in guidance. My question: What is missing? I know that this position could cover a wide range of duties and jobs. This and the other positions are the vision of the HC, and of course putting this into actuality may be very different. I just want to make sure I am doing a good job and am adding value to the program. When I got done pulling job descriptions, I finally just told him that the best thing to do might be to answer the questions, "What do you need a DFO to do, that will all YOU to be the best HC here?" i am stealing this. Good stuff.
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