locharion
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Post by locharion on Jan 15, 2007 11:53:44 GMT -6
According to ESPN, Gus Malzahn is stepping down from his position in Arkansas and will become the co-offensive coordinator at Tulsa.
Interesting turn of events.
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Post by gunslinger on Jan 15, 2007 11:59:30 GMT -6
No disrespect to Tulsa but the working conditions at Arkansas must really be lacking.
Why else do you go from an SEC School with the "title" of offensive coordinator to Tulsa and be the "co" coordinator?
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Post by gamedog on Jan 15, 2007 12:46:42 GMT -6
read somewhere else that Nutt would not let him do a lot of the things he wanted to do. Evidently he wants autonomy with the offense.
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Post by fbdoc on Jan 15, 2007 14:00:23 GMT -6
Wonder how his players feel who followed him to Arkansas? Maybe their mom and dad can call the Tulsa coach to make sure their boys will get enough touches if they decide to transfer.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 15, 2007 14:28:25 GMT -6
Sounds like a bunch of egos that did not mesh. It's tough when the HC and the OC have a difference of opinion on things. I do wonder if those kids who followed him to Arkansas will jump ship, sit a year and play at Tulsa.
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Post by coachdawhip on Jan 15, 2007 14:49:47 GMT -6
I don't think they all with, maybe one or two
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Post by Yash on Jan 15, 2007 15:43:51 GMT -6
What high school was he at again?
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 15, 2007 15:50:58 GMT -6
What high school was he at again? Springdale I think was the high school Malzahn coached at before joining the Arkansas staff. Before that Shiloh Christian. |
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Post by coachturley on Jan 16, 2007 1:32:39 GMT -6
groundchuck got it - Springdale, Ark.
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Post by longball on Jan 16, 2007 13:26:22 GMT -6
Rumor has it that he was being demoted to Co-Coordinator possibly with David Lee of the Cowboys. He wanted to be completely in control so he left to go to a different setting. He said on the news that being a Asst. Head Coach would help him get a head coaching job down the road. I hope he does well. I just never think that things at UA ever jelled on the staff.
Longball
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Post by superpower on Jan 16, 2007 13:38:14 GMT -6
I am not close to this situation in any way, but it sure seems to me that there might be a loyalty issue. If he wasn't the head coach, he needs to be supportive (at least in public). Too bad if the offense wasn't exactly what he wanted. He needs to support his head coach and tell the players that he recruited to support the head coach as well.
Good luck to his co-coordinator and his next head coach.
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coachbronk
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Post by coachbronk on Jan 16, 2007 20:51:00 GMT -6
Turns out that him and Nutt never got along. Nutt stills wants to run 2 back stuff and Malzahn wants to go more to the spread no-huddle stuff. Also, read just a few minutes ago that Mustain is transferring now. Hmmm, I wonder where he'll go....
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Post by airman on Jan 16, 2007 20:58:54 GMT -6
Turns out that him and Nutt never got along. Nutt stills wants to run 2 back stuff and Malzahn wants to go more to the spread no-huddle stuff. Also, read just a few minutes ago that Mustain is transferring now. Hmmm, I wonder where he'll go.... notre dame |
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Post by rams08 on Jan 16, 2007 21:17:41 GMT -6
He's headed to Tulsa with Malzahn
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Post by futurecoach on Jan 16, 2007 21:52:25 GMT -6
This is going to bring me to a question for you guys that might need to be its own thread. How do you seperate being a coach and being a fan. I've been a Hog fan for all my life and seeing all this makes me sick. I read Hog message boards and such and the feeling on most of those is that basically the HC sold everyone out to make sure he kept his job. I always hate to see a coach fired for numerous reasons but somethings are below low. If this is even remotely true, how can anyone work for the guy knowing you will probably be thrown under the bus at some point. I'm sure you all heard about Nutt's "It was a called play and I called it" comment last year. How can a coach, any coach, divide a fanbase and survive? Sorry for the random thoughts here but I just want an idea.
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Post by coachjaz on Jan 16, 2007 22:32:03 GMT -6
Mustain wont go to Notre Dame. They have Jimmy Clausen now
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 17, 2007 5:10:59 GMT -6
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Post by coachcb on Jan 17, 2007 5:43:39 GMT -6
Lil sh-t........Hmmm, what what I rather do? Play ball at an SEC school that won 10 game this year or transfer to Tulsa because I want to throw the ball 70 times a game.
As far as Malzhan goes, I think the dude had better check his ego here eventually. It was his 1st year as a college OC and they were winning games by running the ball; of course Nutt's not going to turn over the reigns to him. If he wanted total autonomy with his offense, he should've stayed at the HS level.
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Post by waltflanagansdog on Jan 17, 2007 6:09:48 GMT -6
Nutt will NEVER turn over the offense to anyone.
Damien Williams to USC, Mustain in Tulsa, last one is Cleveland. Cleveland commited to Florida before Malzahn got the job. He's been in Kansas at a funeral. Wonder where he'll go.
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Post by jburch on Jan 17, 2007 9:19:52 GMT -6
Any situation that allows mommies and daddies to even think they have a right to dictate the type of offense and # of touches a kid has is very screwed up. How many of of us HS coaches would allow that? Arkansas was a top 25 team in division 1 for christ sake! PS if I have 2 backs like they have we probably would have a run to pass ratio of about 80-20
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Post by coachcb on Jan 17, 2007 9:36:27 GMT -6
I just find it amazing that a good coach like Malzahn is upset because Nutt relied on his talent (great running game) to win football games. Hey, if Mulstain and the WR corp got it done better than a Heisman runner up TB and mauling OL, then they would've put the ball up. But, the running game got the job done and Mulstain rode the bench (as Mulstain's mommy ande daddy so graciously pointed out)
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Post by superpower on Jan 17, 2007 9:59:13 GMT -6
Maybe Mustain should have worked on his hand-off and toss skills. Players need to figure out how to benefit the program instead of complaining that the program isn't benefitting them. It is still a team game.
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Post by CoachJ on Jan 17, 2007 10:02:39 GMT -6
Nutt will NEVER turn over the offense to anyone. Damien Williams to USC, Mustain in Tulsa, last one is Cleveland. Cleveland commited to Florida before Malzahn got the job. He's been in Kansas at a funeral. Wonder where he'll go. Isn't there actually a fourth kid on the team from Springdale, Andrew Norman? I guess this kid isn't any big deal or hasn't made waves? |
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Post by wingtol on Jan 17, 2007 10:26:08 GMT -6
Nutt said he only wants players who want to be at Arkansas.
"I've told all the players, if they want their release, we'll grant their release," Nutt said.
Good get rid of all those spoiled kids. I would rather loose with people who wanted to be there than win with a bunch of prima donnas who are holding you hostage.
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Post by superpower on Jan 17, 2007 10:32:43 GMT -6
Nutt said he only wants players who want to be at Arkansas. "I've told all the players, if they want their release, we'll grant their release," Nutt said. Good get rid of all those spoiled kids. I would rather loose with people who wanted to be there than win with a bunch of prima donnas who are holding you hostage. AMEN! I don't know much about Coach Nutt, but I am beginning to respect him more and more as this story develops. |
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Post by coachcb on Jan 17, 2007 11:22:50 GMT -6
Hey, this is a great situation for Nutt- he gets rid of these lil punks on their terms. He doesn't have to kick them off of the team for having mommy and daddy complain about play calling. If I had been in his shoes, I would've sat in on the meeting with parents just long enough to tell them that they didn't have anything to worry about; their kids just lost their scholarships.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2007 12:37:01 GMT -6
I had heard there were five from Springdale on the team, but don't know any of the names. It was reported on Cold Pizza this morning that a book on Springdale came out that covered their championship season when these guys were all seniors in HS. In it, Mustain was quoted as saying it would be easier to committ to Arkansas if Nutt was fired. He was still in HS when he said it, but I guess the book was released this fall. If that's how he felt, why did he go there anyway? I know the Malzahn background, but I don't see how or why you would committ to a program if you felt that way about the HC!
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Post by phantom on Jan 17, 2007 16:08:01 GMT -6
It sounds like a lot of people in here think that Nutt is completely right here. Malzahn and the player all got the idea that they were going to run the spread from somebody.
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Post by blackfly73 on Jan 17, 2007 20:25:40 GMT -6
Mustain wont go to Notre Dame. They have Jimmy Clausen now I don't think ND would have worked out for the kid. He would've thrown it a bunch... but knowing where Weiss is coming from... I don't think Mustain would have liked the way his ego would have been treated. As far as I'm concerned... this is a win-win for Arkansas |
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Post by coachcb on Jan 18, 2007 7:34:28 GMT -6
It sounds like a lot of people in here think that Nutt is completely right here. Malzahn and the player all got the idea that they were going to run the spread from somebody. Well, I'm putting myself in Nutt's shoes here (as much as I can) 1. Yes, he did bring Malzahn in, but I doubt he did so to completely revamp his offense;. Arkansas has been a run first, run second, team under Nutt- mimicking Texas Tech isn't really in the cards. I think that he brought Malzahn in to add a passing component to his offense, not switch over completely. 2. They came out against their first game and put the ball in the air 30+ times. In doing so, they got wailed on by USC- Mustain had a terribel day, throwing 3 INTs. After that, it was obvious Nutt decided to feed McFadden the rock and they won because of it. 3. Malzhan is obivously not happy at Arkansas- but he needed to give it more than one season. Maybe Nutt did tell him that they'd throw the ball 50 times a game, but with a TB like McFadden, that wasn't going to happen last season. 4. The crew of kids that followed Malzahn have a lot to learn about life in general. Bringing their parents into the situation was ridiculous and uncalled for. If they had a problem with the situation than they needed to talk to Nutt. If they did so and Nutt blew them off, then the situation was done and over with- leave mamma and pappa at home. Plus they'd only been there one year!!!! Give it a season and see what pans out. 5. Outside of all the BS- THE HOGS WON 10 GAMES IN THE SEC!!! I don't know many OCs that wouldn't love to have that on their resumes. |
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