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Post by groundchuck on Dec 30, 2005 12:35:43 GMT -6
With all these terms being thrown about by commentators during the bowl games (plus for my general knowledge) what is the difference between them?
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 30, 2005 12:45:46 GMT -6
good luck trying to figure that out....lol. if you do, share it with me...haha
to me:
spread = formation
air raid = mesh type routes with some vertical concepts
west coast = high % passes from traditional sets. timing is key.
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Post by toprowguy on Dec 30, 2005 13:12:21 GMT -6
Spread/Air Raid=Gun
West Coast=Under Center
Majority of the time
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Post by tog on Dec 30, 2005 13:30:55 GMT -6
spread to me means northwestern throw so you can run balanced offense
air raid means like texas tech, mumme
west coast=who knows, applied to everything and everyone
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 30, 2005 14:52:50 GMT -6
I agree spread means run & pass equal from Shotgun/1-back.
west coast = short passing game
Air Raid = Shotgun passing team.
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Post by coachjd on Dec 30, 2005 14:54:15 GMT -6
air raid is a term that was created by Mumme when he was at Kentucky. He took some of the WCO plays (BYU) and ran them from multiple formations with multiple motions and shifts from the gun and spread formations.
The traditional WCO is like the 49ers, BYU, USC
IMO there are a number of definitions when defining spread offenses. You can look at Bowling green and Northwestern. They want to run the ball first.
Texas Tech want to throw the ball almost every down.
I would consider Hawaii a spead team that uses the run and shoot.
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Post by toprowguy on Dec 30, 2005 15:01:58 GMT -6
And Navy is a Spread Team.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 30, 2005 15:15:07 GMT -6
Navy is a spread option team, but Urban Meyer also calls his offense the spread option.
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Post by tog on Dec 30, 2005 15:36:08 GMT -6
the problem is the announcers talking out of their butts
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 30, 2005 15:55:19 GMT -6
True dat. Sometimes I would just rather not have any sound on...especially if Brent Mustburger is doing a game.
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Post by tog on Dec 30, 2005 15:58:17 GMT -6
no kidding
don't get me started
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Post by pegleg on Dec 30, 2005 17:41:25 GMT -6
i just laugh when they talk like they know whats going on. there aren't many who have a clue!
Holla
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Post by bigdaddyd on Dec 30, 2005 17:47:19 GMT -6
to me:
Spread= butter on my toast
Air raid= The stuff I spray on ants.
West Coast= the place to be...
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Post by pegleg on Dec 30, 2005 18:08:28 GMT -6
spread = formation
air raid = state of mind
west coast = ain't that where them hippies hang out?
it really pisses me off when people say we're a "spread team" when they have tho ol in 4 pt stances and 4 verts is their only passing game. thats why i say its a formation, because everyone is doing it now and very few truely understand it. sorry for the rant but i cant stand those people.
Holla
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 30, 2005 18:15:54 GMT -6
it really pisses me off when people say we're a "spread team" when they have tho ol in 4 pt stances and 4 verts is their only passing game. thats why i say its a formation, because everyone is doing it now and very few truely understand it. sorry for the rant but i cant stand those people. BINGO!!!! Exactly.....i'm with you 100%. so many "believers" yet so few "understanders" |
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Post by rbush on Dec 30, 2005 18:21:58 GMT -6
Rutgers and Nebraska both run west coast, and they use formation shifts all the time (followed at Nebraska by false starts  ) I don't know a lot about the spread or air raid, but it seems like the west coast uses a lot of multi-tight end formations. |
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Post by bigdaddyd on Dec 30, 2005 18:34:22 GMT -6
It's just my opinion, not trying to start anything, but I get the feeling, you Texans don't take to kind to us west coast California folk...
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Post by tog on Dec 30, 2005 18:36:38 GMT -6
It's just my opinion, not trying to start anything, but I get the feeling, you Texans don't take to kind to us west coast California folk... just a game man |
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 30, 2005 18:39:19 GMT -6
It's just my opinion, not trying to start anything, but I get the feeling, you Texans don't take to kind to us west coast California folk... what gives you that impression? |
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Post by pegleg on Dec 30, 2005 18:43:41 GMT -6
nah, i love you guys!
although we do tend to be a bit territorial sometimes, i'll give you that!
Holla
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Post by bigdaddyd on Dec 30, 2005 18:48:16 GMT -6
The hippie remark...On my part, I'm just kidding having some fun... nothing but love on this board...
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Post by tog on Dec 30, 2005 18:55:57 GMT -6
ahhh thought you were hitting the usc/ut angle just hippies? we have a ton of those in Austin  |
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Post by pegleg on Dec 30, 2005 18:56:01 GMT -6
let's have a group hug, i promise to be nicer next time..........mabey!
Holla
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Post by bigdaddyd on Dec 30, 2005 18:58:56 GMT -6
Oh... AND... GO USC...#1
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Post by bigdaddyd on Dec 30, 2005 19:00:29 GMT -6
Just posted that one, so I could get my junior member status merrit... ooooo....yeah!!!!!
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Post by saintrad on Dec 31, 2005 0:33:48 GMT -6
just to say that they (the commentators) think they know what they are talking about and allows them to sound knowledgable to thier hack corporate bosses
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Post by Mav on Dec 31, 2005 11:46:53 GMT -6
What about the difference between Tim Stowers, Georgia Southern, spread option, Navy's and the flexbone offense? Without really studying them, they look very similar.
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Post by saintrad on Dec 31, 2005 14:28:25 GMT -6
you want hippies...go to Eugene Oregon, Home of the University of Oregon. The student govt. outlawed something about 3rd world sweatshops and companies that use them, so Mr. Phil KNight (of NIKE) took his 60 mill donation back... now if he would just take those hideous Oregon uniforms back.
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Post by coachbb on Dec 31, 2005 15:45:11 GMT -6
True dat. Sometimes I would just rather not have any sound on...especially if Brent Mustburger is doing a game. Anyone ever play the Brent Musburger drinking game? |
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 31, 2005 15:46:31 GMT -6
True dat. Sometimes I would just rather not have any sound on...especially if Brent Mustburger is doing a game. Anyone ever play the Brent Musburger drinking game? gonna have to explain that one to me |
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) I don't know a lot about the spread or air raid, but it seems like the west coast uses a lot of multi-tight end formations.
