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Post by coach2013 on Mar 21, 2014 6:39:55 GMT -6
Have any of you been in a school where the principal and AD created a mandatory strength and conditioning program requirement for all athletes (to eliminate the dreaded "don't lift, we are in season" mentality and to reduce injuries in all sports)
Please help, I need to put a proposal together - this could be big fast. I suggested that all athletes meet a "2 days a week" requirement as part of regular inseason strength and conditioning. I need a complete proposal so I am looking to hear from anyone experienced with such a thing. |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 21, 2014 9:08:34 GMT -6
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Post by utchuckd on Mar 21, 2014 9:34:46 GMT -6
The first thing you need to do is get the school nutritionist on board so they can serve appropriate food in the cafeteria or the program will be moot.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 21, 2014 10:28:39 GMT -6
our football program would serve as the school wide strength coaches |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 21, 2014 13:11:24 GMT -6
our football program would serve as the school wide strength coaches I guess my question is the same then- Why do you feel like you should have the right to tell a baseball coach what can do for a lifting program. Should he have the right to dictate your running program? |
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 21, 2014 13:41:01 GMT -6
our football program would serve as the school wide strength coaches I guess my question is the same then- Why do you feel like you should have the right to tell a baseball coach what can do for a lifting program. Should he have the right to dictate your running program? I feel like I have the right because my boss says I can. |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 21, 2014 13:52:00 GMT -6
The people of Germany told Hitler he could do lots of things, doesn't mean it was right.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 21, 2014 14:10:07 GMT -6
The people of Germany told Hitler he could do lots of things, doesn't mean it was right. You just compared a strength and conditioning coach to Hitler? |
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Post by coachphillip on Mar 21, 2014 15:13:54 GMT -6
I think I've seen Larrymoe's posts bring up Hitler several times lol.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 21, 2014 15:25:16 GMT -6
Its this simple.
Football is the only sport in our school with year round strength and conditioning including in-season workouts.
In a very short period of time we have had some kids go from geek to shiek and become relevant not only in football but in other sports.
The kids are often discouraged from continuing to train even after we have been preparing them for any sports season they play after football, before football. In sort, we train them, others detrain them.
I think the boss sees it. He is probably tired of hearing about it.
I believe he wants every athlete in the school to be trained. year round.
Its a safety issue.
The question is- how to make it work?!
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 21, 2014 15:30:26 GMT -6
The people of Germany told Hitler he could do lots of things, doesn't mean it was right. You just compared a strength and conditioning coach to Hitler? I was just busting your chops a little, but some s&c guys could make Hitler look like a liberal. |
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Post by silkyice on Mar 21, 2014 15:41:52 GMT -6
The people of Germany told Hitler he could do lots of things, doesn't mean it was right. You just compared a strength and conditioning coach to Hitler? LMAO!!!!!!! |
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 21, 2014 19:53:37 GMT -6
That's a pretty quick Godwin.
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Post by vikingdw on Mar 21, 2014 21:22:17 GMT -6
Yes Coach, my school (private Christian school) has a mandatory athletics period that ALL boys and girls must participate in (boys athletics and girls athletics are at different times and are separate). In athletics the athletes lift 3X per week in the off-season and 2X during their in-season (other days are plyos, sprints, ladders, cones, hurdles, dot drills, etc...). During the athletics period, we alternate days in the weight room (for example, in season lifts on Mondays and Wednesdays and off-season lifts Tuesday, Thursday, Friday). When the sport season ends/changes then those athletes lift or not based on whether or not the sport they are now playing is in-season or off-season. This is a requirement that is posted and sent out to every household before school starts every year. We have had 2 athletes in the past 5 years that I know of that have chosen not to enroll or "be in" an athletics period that have also showed up to a 1st day of sport practice only to be told, "Sorry, but you aren't in athletics so you can't play this season." Our administration, principal, athletic director and school president are all on board with this policy. It makes a huge difference when we play other schools that don't have mandatory strength and conditioning program.
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Post by bigspicy on Mar 22, 2014 0:18:17 GMT -6
In Texas this is becoming more apparent, some of the larger schools are hiring a certified S&C. he then is in charge of all of the sports programs S&C, he implements sport specific workouts.
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Post by fballcoachg on Mar 22, 2014 4:50:38 GMT -6
Is the head honcho ready to ax coaches not on board? Just curious because I have seen administrators talk about how important the weight room is but at the first sign of blow back they back off.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 22, 2014 4:53:47 GMT -6
Is the head honcho ready to ax coaches not on board? Just curious because I have seen administrators talk about how important the weight room is but at the first sign of blow back they back off. I am quite sure that he has the stones to do whatever he has to do in order to put the whole school in a better place. By far the most "sports minded" administrator I have ever known. He expects excellence in all things. The guy literally walks the halls scraping gum off the floor. He picks up trash in the parking lot. He goes to practices and games. He stops by coaching meetings to make sure he knows every assistants name and face. He will sometimes visit with an assistant just to make sure they fit the school. He will sit in the stands during freshman football games. clearly, he has a plan. |
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Post by fballcoachg on Mar 22, 2014 5:01:36 GMT -6
Than just propose what you think is best, seems like there is no convincing needed.
2 days in season, normal workout out of season.
Maybe set up some parameters for game day lifting?
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 22, 2014 6:16:44 GMT -6
Than just propose what you think is best, seems like there is no convincing needed. 2 days in season, normal workout out of season. Maybe set up some parameters for game day lifting? That's the skeleton I have to base from. |
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Post by s73 on Mar 22, 2014 7:48:21 GMT -6
Than just propose what you think is best, seems like there is no convincing needed. 2 days in season, normal workout out of season. Maybe set up some parameters for game day lifting? That's the skeleton I have to base from. IMO 2013 If he's that sports minded, maybe you can make a proposal to have S/C classes through the PE dept. & athletes get first crack at enrolling into them? Then maybe the kids can lift M-W-F and do some sort of plyo / running / agility program on T-Th? That way everybody has to be on board b/c it's part of the curriculum. Maybe present a couple of schools that do this and are successful. Then you could always open weight room after school for kids who couldn't get the class or as something "extra" for the seriously hard workers? Just a thought. |
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Post by sweep26 on Mar 22, 2014 9:56:11 GMT -6
Have you contacted "Bigger, Faster, Stonger" regarding their unified strength and conditioning program?
They may have some ideas that would help you with your presentation.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 22, 2014 15:09:32 GMT -6
That's the skeleton I have to base from. IMO 2013 If he's that sports minded, maybe you can make a proposal to have S/C classes through the PE dept. & athletes get first crack at enrolling into them? Then maybe the kids can lift M-W-F and do some sort of plyo / running / agility program on T-Th? That way everybody has to be on board b/c it's part of the curriculum. Maybe present a couple of schools that do this and are successful. Then you could always open weight room after school for kids who couldn't get the class or as something "extra" for the seriously hard workers? Just a thought. That's coming. I believe I have a four day a week model so I should see some athletes there. The boss said "you need the right kids in there. " as I had explained that in some schools these types of classes turn into "alt ed dumping grounds" |
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Post by s73 on Mar 23, 2014 7:37:33 GMT -6
IMO 2013 If he's that sports minded, maybe you can make a proposal to have S/C classes through the PE dept. & athletes get first crack at enrolling into them? Then maybe the kids can lift M-W-F and do some sort of plyo / running / agility program on T-Th? That way everybody has to be on board b/c it's part of the curriculum. Maybe present a couple of schools that do this and are successful. Then you could always open weight room after school for kids who couldn't get the class or as something "extra" for the seriously hard workers? Just a thought. That's coming. I believe I have a four day a week model so I should see some athletes there. The boss said "you need the right kids in there. " as I had explained that in some schools these types of classes turn into "alt ed dumping grounds" That is absolutely true. Have to have a school w/ a manageable enrollment. Any school that is slightly over crowded and the classes become huge, as well as non athletes get put in their b/c some numbnuts failed PE last semester. We see some of that but have managed to make it work. |
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Post by Underdeveloped on Mar 23, 2014 8:33:51 GMT -6
Working in Missouri and I have 3 one and a half HOUR blocks each day of weight training. It is great at times and tough at times.
We have a policy (my syllabus) for entire school. Only negative of having things this way is there are certain blocks where I may only have 2 football boys, 1 I am recruiting and 9 girls and 7 juvenile delinquents.
I have 8 racks so with 3 in each rack I can have a pretty organized class but when they throw 27 or more kids in a block it is tough to organize what I need to get done. Still better than not having the class. Can't imagine that
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