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Post by tog on May 15, 2006 16:05:40 GMT -6
not that you run every play in it
but how big is your offensive playbook?
what do you use it for?
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Post by saintrad on May 15, 2006 16:19:52 GMT -6
my playbooks are for the coaching staff. I believe it to be on the same page as a staff more than it does need to be in the hands of a teenager.
My offensive playbook is roughly 45-50 pages, but that includes all the descriptives and everything a coach needs to coach in my system.
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Post by tog on May 15, 2006 16:25:00 GMT -6
our offensive playbook is about 300 pages btw
every run and pass against every front and coverage imaginable kinda adds up
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Post by oguru on May 15, 2006 16:29:16 GMT -6
Tog,
I handle the run game,.and allow our QB coach coorinate the pass game, but the run game itself is about 300 pages as I darw the palys out of every formation we runm, against a base set of fronts. We will draw the plays up against different fronts as the season goes on. I have four different binders for the run game,and three for the pass game, and one just for protections.
So in total I would geuiss it's well over one thousand pages. We give the players tip sheets during spring ball,and fall camp, as well as during the season,and they also watch training tapes during the off season. Especially incoming freshman and transfers.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 15, 2006 21:38:52 GMT -6
Our playbook...complete with every play we will possibly run, all of our blocking calls, 4 pages of terms, and 2 minute offense... 25 pages.
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Post by cqmiller on May 16, 2006 6:15:37 GMT -6
If I drew up every play I could run with my system, then I don't even wanna know how long it would be. But it is only about 30 pages. It just has my Formations, Motions, and Play Calls. I don't draw out EVERY play against EVERY defense. We go over rules, and then implement them against the defenses we face every week.
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Post by stone65 on May 16, 2006 6:35:42 GMT -6
My Defensive playbook is 30 pgs
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Post by dmp225 on May 16, 2006 6:35:43 GMT -6
50 pages
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Post by coachjd on May 16, 2006 6:46:48 GMT -6
52 pages
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Post by seagull73 on May 16, 2006 8:52:07 GMT -6
My playbook doesn't have any plays in it. It is all formations, motions, and shifts. The play is the least important part for me. There are some things I believe in that can be incorporated with almost any play from the gun:
1. Reading the backside end (shotgun)
2. Using the QB as a runner
3. Misdirection
If I was to sit down and put it all on paper it would look like a phone book.
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Post by aggie98 on May 16, 2006 9:17:30 GMT -6
Mine that I did this year is about 40-50 pages. It has formations, motions, terms, and plays in it. Who has time to look through a 300 page playbook anyway?
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Post by tog on May 16, 2006 9:33:57 GMT -6
Mine that I did this year is about 40-50 pages. It has formations, motions, terms, and plays in it. Who has time to look through a 300 page playbook anyway? i think another question here is who has time to write one  |
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Post by knight9299 on May 16, 2006 9:39:37 GMT -6
not that you run every play in it but how big is your offensive playbook? what do you use it for? I have no idea how many pages it is. We use it at the beginning of camp and then not so much. After that I use it as a book end for my other football related stuff. Tapes, books, 3 ring binders etc. |
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Post by knighter on May 16, 2006 9:59:50 GMT -6
mine fits on a bar napkin. lol
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Post by seagull73 on May 16, 2006 10:09:21 GMT -6
That's the problem I have. I start to write it and you start with everyting in BASE but I don't run a lot out of base so I put in the motions, and the unbalanced, and the misdirection, and trips, bunch, and before you know it I've been working for an hour and I'm still on Inside zone.
Who has the time!
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Post by brophy on May 16, 2006 10:15:33 GMT -6
defensive playbook is about 9 pages...period, and it comes with crayons.
6 coverages
1 front / blitz/ stunt
1 goal line
(one extra page for doodling and coloring)
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Post by aggie98 on May 16, 2006 10:18:14 GMT -6
Why would you draw up every play out of every formation? Draw it up out of your base formation and then you should be able to adjust on your own without a book.
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Post by hawkcoach on May 16, 2006 10:23:24 GMT -6
We have 6 run plays out of the SB Veer. 7 Pass Plays. 6 Formations.
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Post by seagull73 on May 16, 2006 10:32:31 GMT -6
I only have about 5 running plays (3 of which are options or have option possibilities) and a few passing plays, 2 screens and that's it.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2006 10:36:07 GMT -6
I undertook attempting to write my version Diamond T playbook this weekend and ended up with about 30 pages; it isn't complete yet though. It includes my philosophy of the offense at the beginning, important terms, all formations (actually have 15 formations although there is no way I would run all 15 in one season), and the main plays drawn up out of only the base formation, but against 6-2, 5-2, 5-3, and 4-4 fronts. I'm guessing I have about 10-15 pages to add once I develop the passing game more and, if I wish to include them, every single run play I have. IF I handout versions to the players, it will be dwindled down to about 15 pages--terms, formations, the six base plays, plus playaction concepts.
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Post by mib36 on May 16, 2006 10:46:18 GMT -6
at the high school that I have been working at our offensive book is 24 pages and our defensive book is 65 pages. the college I am going to our defensive playbook will be around 70 pages.
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Post by blb on May 16, 2006 11:05:07 GMT -6
Our offensive book is about 50 pages. We draw runs and pass pros up against an even, odd, split, and 5-3, pass patterns without coverage. Too many variations to try to cover them all and have it not be confusing. Teach adjustments week-to-week as part of game plan.
Use a reference for coaching staff, give to kids first year as they learn system, after that as needed.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2006 12:10:51 GMT -6
Your last sentence about "as necessary" is kind of how I see my philosophy being towards handing out playbooks, blb. And, not to be off topic, but I really like the "male/man" quote, mib36. I hadn't seen it before!!
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Post by mib36 on May 16, 2006 12:19:51 GMT -6
i've got around 300 or so quotes from different people,places,etc. some come from athletics, some from literary sources, some from the business world, some from only god knows where. if i ever get around to typing them all up i'll get it posted on here.
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Post by phantom on May 16, 2006 17:25:32 GMT -6
I'm just finishing up our defensive playbook. It'll be about 95 pages. It's mostly for the coaches, to keep us on the same page. To be honest a big reason is to crystallize my thinking. We do give the kids copies.
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Post by wingtol on May 16, 2006 18:14:54 GMT -6
Our playbook is 4 pages long--1 rule page for center 1 rule page for guards 1 rule page for tackles and one for the TE. =K.I.S.S. casue we sure aint the brightest ourselfs so why confuse the players
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Post by jhanawa on May 17, 2006 8:21:13 GMT -6
We stopped with printed playbooks two years ago and have gone to CD's. First we used excel, now I've switched all that over to Power Point, using step by step animations-its a work in progress but I think it is much better to see the X's/O's actually moving rather than leaving there movements open to interpretation, for example, we will run a pattern and show the ball being thrown to various receivers depending on what the coverage is doing. Of course, if I animated everything vs every front with every motion, formation tweak, I'd run out of disk space so we limit it to base formations, plays, etc. Currently, its at around 185 slides, by the time I'm done with it, I'd say it would at least double in size. How I've been doing it is giving out power points on individual plays that I know we will be doing rather than waiting for the whole thing to be done because I don't want them wasting time learning something that we might not use next year.
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Post by tog on May 17, 2006 8:25:41 GMT -6
Why would you draw up every play out of every formation? Draw it up out of your base formation and then you should be able to adjust on your own without a book. I don't draw up every play vs every formation. Just every front I can think of, plus major formations changes that affect the front for that play. |
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Post by tog on May 17, 2006 8:26:59 GMT -6
To be honest a big reason is to crystallize my thinking. . the main advantage i don't know how many times I have seen things while making playbooks, that made me realize, "hey, there is an issue with this" that you just don't get on the board, or on a pad of paper really makes you think |
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Post by nohuddlecoach on May 17, 2006 8:28:13 GMT -6
i asked a college coach this one time and i loved his reply, "big enough to win and not one page more."
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