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Post by indian1 on May 26, 2010 19:49:10 GMT -6
This entire thread is exactly why I will not watch any football TV shows, or movies. Every time a new show or movie about football comes out one of my friends tells me how much I would love it and every time I have to tell him football movies/ TV shows SUCK for all of the reasons mentioned already.
Although there is ONE that I LOVE. Rudy is the only hollywood version of football that is worth a $hit, and it might be for only one reason. Rudy portrays what college football really is like for many guys who play. You have to worry about keeping your grades up. You go to practice everyday and basically take a royal @$$ kicking. You spend considerable time in the training room before and after those practices to TRY to stay healthy, and if you bust your @$$ hard enough and are lucky enough to stay healthy maybe, MAYBE you have a chance of getting on the field.
I will not watch other shows/ movies about football.
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Post by ajreaper on May 26, 2010 21:53:43 GMT -6
Tv and movies are just that, TV and movies. I can watch and enjoy a James Bond movie knowing it's all pretty much crap- TV and movies entertain they are not reality. I mean do CSI techs interview suspects and make arrests? Don't think so. Little is portrayed realistically on TV and in the movies and I am not so full of myself to demand that hollywood get what we do right-I want my doctor to get it right, that's a priority- TV and movies just need to entertain me.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 26, 2010 23:28:07 GMT -6
Tv and movies are just that, TV and movies. I can watch and enjoy a James Bond movie knowing it's all pretty much crap- TV and movies entertain they are not reality. I mean do CSI techs interview suspects and make arrests? Don't think so. Little is portrayed realistically on TV and in the movies and I am not so full of myself to demand that hollywood get what we do right-I want my doctor to get it right, that's a priority- TV and movies just need to entertain me. I would agree, HOWEVER as I mentioned, the less than accurate portrayals affect us as coaches (and as My ADA friend said.. CSI affects his job as well) Not demanding anyone gets it right, but I will gripe about it.
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Post by John Knight on May 27, 2010 6:19:27 GMT -6
How about both longest yards and the football game in MASH!!! Might as well go all out if it is a Hollywood football!
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Post by phantom on May 27, 2010 8:35:53 GMT -6
How about both longest yards and the football game in MASH!!! Might as well go all out if it is a Hollywood football! You mean X-rays of your opponent aren't a big part of your game plan?
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Post by mitch on May 28, 2010 0:03:18 GMT -6
There for many years, I would pride myself on digging up every football movie, good or bad. Most were bad. The only two that stand out to me, and I love is The Program, and Johnny Be Goode because of the humor. I will admit, Pachino's monlogue was chilling awesome. However, the worse, well the movie Possums takes the cake in my opinion. It is truly a real gem. Here is a brief summary: Set in the real town of Nowata, Oklahoma. "Possums" tells the story of a hardware store owner (Mac Davis) who's hobby is calling the games of his old high school team on the radio. When the townfolk comes to the conclusion that the team should be disbanded because they haven't scored a point in 13 years, Davis decides to stay on the radio anyway and make up the games, having the Nowata Possums win the state championship. Unfortunately, the real state champs hear about this and challenge the Possums to an actual game. Can the real Possums overcome impossible odds? Will Mac Davis's son come back and help dear ol' dad with coaching the team? Can Mac Davis drink any more root beer without exploding? You'll just have to find out for yourself in this family-friendly film. I bet we're the only two that's seen this!! You didn't mention Barry Switzer was the coach of the other team. I don't even remember how I saw it. I guarantee you can't find it at Blockbuster or on Netflix.
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Post by struceri on May 28, 2010 7:54:25 GMT -6
There for many years, I would pride myself on digging up every football movie, good or bad. Most were bad. The only two that stand out to me, and I love is The Program, and Johnny Be Goode because of the humor. I will admit, Pachino's monlogue was chilling awesome. However, the worse, well the movie Possums takes the cake in my opinion. It is truly a real gem. Here is a brief summary: Set in the real town of Nowata, Oklahoma. "Possums" tells the story of a hardware store owner (Mac Davis) who's hobby is calling the games of his old high school team on the radio. When the townfolk comes to the conclusion that the team should be disbanded because they haven't scored a point in 13 years, Davis decides to stay on the radio anyway and make up the games, having the Nowata Possums win the state championship. Unfortunately, the real state champs hear about this and challenge the Possums to an actual game. Can the real Possums overcome impossible odds? Will Mac Davis's son come back and help dear ol' dad with coaching the team? Can Mac Davis drink any more root beer without exploding? You'll just have to find out for yourself in this family-friendly film. I bet we're the only two that's seen this!! You didn't mention Barry Switzer was the coach of the other team. I don't even remember how I saw it. I guarantee you can't find it at Blockbuster or on Netflix. I watched this also. It was kinda like a train wreck. Pretty bad but for some reason I had to keep watchin it.
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Post by dirtybird13 on Jun 2, 2010 8:43:35 GMT -6
We have yet to mention the ESPN series Playmakers. The "Drama" aspect misrespresents the entirity of a professional football team. I spoke with a former NFL player concerning his opinion of the show, and he said he did not like it because it made it appear that all teams were filled with "Drug addicts and wife beaters." The coach sometimes I think can be an accurate representation of a pro coach, but occasionally he is a characiture, which I think is what most coaches/players in tv and movies end up being when all is said and done. I think the sad thing here is that Playmakers was ESPN's honest attempt to blend all the excitement of a TV drama in with knowledge of the game. Also, this is a good example of the assistant who's a snake. An OC put in by the owner who is subverting his head coach from his second appearance on. I say second appearance because in the first show he speaks he teaches the QB a lesson in "taking what the game gives you." Honestly a clever moment, and I liked the lesson involved... but
bah... I'm done for the moment.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 10, 2010 23:04:24 GMT -6
I think the boys of Friday Night Lights are on path to win state this year. They started out poorly, but now players switched to the Wildcat on their own in the game...and of course it was successful!!!!! Stupid coaches...
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Post by coachorr on Jun 11, 2010 0:18:12 GMT -6
Teachers, coaches, and principals (and Christians for that matter) are always made out to be buffoons in Hollywood.
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Post by brophy on Jun 11, 2010 4:48:05 GMT -6
Non coaches keep recommending 'Gridiron Gang' to me, but from what little I saw (10 min) of Johnson and Xzibit 'coaching' in the movie, it seemed to bring up all the same cliched 'bada55' coach personas of yelling at kids......I didn't bother to watch the rest
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Post by coachcb on Jun 11, 2010 9:20:00 GMT -6
Petey Jones: [has hand raised for a high-five and is smiling] Coach Boone: Put your hand down. [Petey does as told] Coach Boone: You're smiling. Petey Jones: Yes. Coach Boone: Yes, sir. Why are you smiling? Petey Jones: 'Cause I love football. Football is fun. Coach Boone: Fun, sir? It's fun? Petey Jones: Yes. Coach Boone: You sure? Petey Jones: I think... Coach Boone: Now you're thinkin'. First you smile, then you thinkin'. You think football is still fun? Petey Jones: Uh, yes. Coach Boone: Sir. Petey Jones: Yes- no, sir. Coach Boone: No? Petey Jones: Um, it was fun. Coach Boone: Not anymore though, is it? *Is* it? Petey Jones: Not right now, no. Coach Boone: No, it's not fun anymore. Not even a little bit. Petey Jones: Uh... no. Coach Boone: Make up your mind. Think since you're thinking. Go on, think. Is it fun? Petey Jones: No, sir. Coach Boone: No? Absolutely not? Petey Jones: Zero fun, sir. Coach Boone: [addresses team] All right, listen up! I'm Coach Boone. I'm gonna tell you about how much... *fun* you're gonna have this season.
I love "Remember The Titans"m but I HATE THIS SCENE.
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Post by coachorr on Jun 11, 2010 12:18:14 GMT -6
Cb, great post and so true, great movie, bad scene. Have you ever said or do you know any coach who as ever said the football is not fun?..............
Me neither.
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Post by coachdennis on Jun 11, 2010 14:45:22 GMT -6
Have you ever said or do you know any coach who as ever said the football is not fun?.............. Yep - coached with a guy one year who told a group of 8-10 year olds, and I quote, "We aren't here to have fun. We are here to win!" God as my witness. Yes, they were 8 - 10 years old.
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Post by chaostempo2010 on Jun 12, 2010 22:42:37 GMT -6
Cb, great post and so true, great movie, bad scene. Have you ever said or do you know any coach who as ever said the football is not fun? This reminds me of a couple documentaries I have seen "The U" and "America's Game" with the cowboys I love how Jimmy Johnson coaches it seems to me he basically tells the players have fun its a game. He didn't mind the swagg and the celebrations that his players put out it just gave his players more motivation and success on the field. I would have to say the best portrayal of coaching and this might also be viewed as a documentary by some is the junction boys.
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Post by pvogel on Jun 13, 2010 0:13:08 GMT -6
someone mentioned coach winkler in the waterboy, but i must say farmer fran takes the cake. cracks me up everytime.
as a player a couple years ago we had a player on our team who believed he was a superb leader (thanks to a mass stroking of his ego from coaches, teachers, you name it). What ensued were the worst speeches ever heard week after week at team dinner and in the locker room. I blame hollywood movies for the false perception of a team leader as well as a coach.
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Post by airtrafficcontrol on Jun 13, 2010 1:17:58 GMT -6
I seen Possums..thought it was a damn funny movie.
Have any of you seen "Hometown Legend"?With Terry O'Quinn(Locke from Lost) in his best Tom Landry suit?They decide to run the wishbone in the big game and change to the old uniforms of their school at halftime.Never thought them the wishbone..just says "Let the bone roll" several times at key moments.
I wish I could say "Let the pistol spread option be effective" or something to that manner and instantly have my guys thoroughly know my playbook.
Legend.
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Post by coachk98 on Jun 13, 2010 10:04:22 GMT -6
The kids tell me Im alot like the coach from "saving silverman"
Has any one seen this movie ?
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Post by coachcb on Jun 13, 2010 10:58:14 GMT -6
Cb, great post and so true, great movie, bad scene. Have you ever said or do you know any coach who as ever said the football is not fun?.............. Me neither. I was coaching freshman/sophs in a program where we struggled all year long. LOTs of issues; kids weren't getting playing time, we weren't coaching as well as we should have, and the moral was low after the first game of the season. After our third loss (where 25 out of 50 kids played), we were all pulled together in the end zone. I told the kids that the it was tough loss, but asked them if they had fun. They all started hooping and hollering; it was the most excited I had seen them in two months. I took an a-- chewing for it from the HC the next week for it. "Football isn't fun unless you win. They need to let those losses BURN and HURT; that's how we'll get them competitive". Funny thing is, I coached the freshman/sophs in several program over the years and have played against my former team every year. We always emphasize having fun, playing hard and understanding that, if they do those two things, winning will take care of itself. We beat the h-ll out of the every year at camps and during the season. IT FEELS GREAT. Last year, I wanted to walk up to the HC that reamed me and ask him this: "Havin' fun yet coach?" But, I didn't, MAN I wanted to though... Instead, whenever I am across the field from him, I am always pumping up the players. "Keep havin' fun out there baby! Played hard and love the game fellas!!" Haven't lost to them yet.
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Post by pvogel on Jun 13, 2010 12:17:22 GMT -6
The kids tell me Im alot like the coach from "saving silverman" Has any one seen this movie ? LOL the coach in that movie is crazy in the most mental sense. he goes to jail and encourages murder. and he is gay.
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Post by coachbigelow on Jun 13, 2010 21:23:21 GMT -6
Seen Saving Silverman and yes the coach is crazy.
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Post by cc on Jun 13, 2010 22:02:56 GMT -6
Yeah it sure seems there is a lack of positive examples of coaching in movies. But again sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Look at the coaching in the documentary "year of the Bull." Or one of my favories is Coach Hines from Mad TV (look it up on Youtube - classic).
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Post by gunrun on Jun 14, 2010 16:09:32 GMT -6
Wow, Year of the Bull was a trip. I almost forgot about that one. Player cussing out the coach and one getting into a fight with the coach.
Come to think about it, I intentionally tried to forget about that one.
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Post by downdownkick on Jun 24, 2010 21:00:35 GMT -6
I love the part in Little Giants where the kid is explaining a play to John Madden and he says "And here's where we pass to the tailback...only problem is we don't HAVE a tailback"
HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A TAILBACK!
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Post by kpike9 on Jun 25, 2010 6:37:13 GMT -6
to add to rolltide, dont forget about sunshine getting out in front with 4 bone crushing blocks that didnt even slow him down a step as he led the way to pay dirt.
In The Program (altho I have to say, maybe one of my all time favorite football movies) the coaches really turn a blind eye to just about every possible problem a program could have.
and has there ever been a movie where any of the teams had a decent jersey? Most little league teams are outfitted better you think they could get some easy advertisment out of putting a decent jersey on those stellar actor/athletes. I know Under Armor tried in Blind Side, but IMO a pathetic attempt.
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Post by coachorr on Jun 25, 2010 10:09:05 GMT -6
Coachcb, that is a great post. Great story, and to the point. Do you coach, because it's a shyt sandwich or do you coach because you have fun? Now I am not saying pal around with the players and all that jazz, but I am talking about the truly rewarding stuff like: seeing players develop, teams come together, players say "thanks coach", winning together etc. All that stuff that makes coaching "fun".
I used to say that some coaches believed "fun" was a four letter word. I don't enjoy coaching as much when there are fun vampires coaching with you.
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Post by leighty on Jun 25, 2010 12:46:50 GMT -6
Wow, Year of the Bull was a trip. I almost forgot about that one. Player cussing out the coach and one getting into a fight with the coach. Come to think about it, I intentionally tried to forget about that one. Make no mistake about it, it wasn't the player getting into a fight with a coach, it was the coach attacking a player after he refused to participate in a tackling drill when he had sustained a neck injury in the previous game. All of those guys were dirtbags. It has long been rumored that Northwestern and other high schools in Miami/Dade county were/are funded by drug money and tens of thousands of dollars change hands when Miami schools play each other. Not surprisingly, a few years after the documentary was released, the entire Northwestern coaching staff, along with some school administrators, were fired for covering up a sexual assault committed by one of the players.
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Post by gunrun on Jun 25, 2010 19:33:57 GMT -6
Wow, Year of the Bull was a trip. I almost forgot about that one. Player cussing out the coach and one getting into a fight with the coach. Come to think about it, I intentionally tried to forget about that one. Make no mistake about it, it wasn't the player getting into a fight with a coach, it was the coach attacking a player after he refused to participate in a tackling drill when he had sustained a neck injury in the previous game. All of those guys were dirtbags. It has long been rumored that Northwestern and other high schools in Miami/Dade county were/are funded by drug money and tens of thousands of dollars change hands when Miami schools play each other. Not surprisingly, a few years after the documentary was released, the entire Northwestern coaching staff, along with some school administrators, were fired for covering up a sexual assault committed by one of the players. I used to hear that little league football had big money riding on the games from when I coached down in S FL. I can only imagine what it is like on Friday nights.
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Post by tbelding on Jun 26, 2010 2:41:16 GMT -6
Cb, great post and so true, great movie, bad scene. Have you ever said or do you know any coach who as ever said the football is not fun?.............. Me neither. I was coaching freshman/sophs in a program where we struggled all year long. LOTs of issues; kids weren't getting playing time, we weren't coaching as well as we should have, and the moral was low after the first game of the season. After our third loss (where 25 out of 50 kids played), we were all pulled together in the end zone. I told the kids that the it was tough loss, but asked them if they had fun. They all started hooping and hollering; it was the most excited I had seen them in two months. I took an a-- chewing for it from the HC the next week for it. "Football isn't fun unless you win. They need to let those losses BURN and HURT; that's how we'll get them competitive". Funny thing is, I coached the freshman/sophs in several program over the years and have played against my former team every year. We always emphasize having fun, playing hard and understanding that, if they do those two things, winning will take care of itself. We beat the h-ll out of the every year at camps and during the season. IT FEELS GREAT. Last year, I wanted to walk up to the HC that reamed me and ask him this: "Havin' fun yet coach?" But, I didn't, MAN I wanted to though... Instead, whenever I am across the field from him, I am always pumping up the players. "Keep havin' fun out there baby! Played hard and love the game fellas!!" Haven't lost to them yet. Do you think you are beating that team because of your speeches about having fun? Are you serious? You lost a game and asked them if they had fun atleast? Why not just coach in one of those youth leagues where they don't keep score. I have coached at a school that is always losing on all levels playing schools that average 500-1000 more students week to week. At no point did I ever ask them if they had fun. If it was so unfun we wouldn't field a team I think.
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