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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2008 15:12:53 GMT -6
So for the THIRD time you have not answered any of the following questions
What Materials did you add that were 100% of your own creation, and WHAT is keeping you from still doing that? How is this site, which is far and away a message board site, so greatly changed by not having playbooks attached to it?
As for asking "the Ted Seely"...I have no idea who "the Ted Seely" is nor do I know why I should care what "the Ted Seely" says.
You probably won't reply under the guise of "that was my last post" but I think it is evident the reason is because you have can't answer those questions directly.
I just don't see any difference.
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Post by optionguy on Aug 23, 2008 15:28:22 GMT -6
Before making any further statements about changes on this site, give Coach Huey the opportunity to explain why these changes have been made, which is a fair position to take for all of us who have used this site.
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 15:34:08 GMT -6
How can I prove it, it´s down!...I think Chris Brown has one in his Scrib material on the web...look up at the fourth post on this thread for my name. as for you don´t know TED is like asking who is President of the US on this site, my Grandmother knows who Ted Seely is and she has been dead for 20 years(God rest her soul) which means you really never looked at the Free no Trade site! This fine gentleman has placed many free contributions, more than mine.Have you ever looked at this part of the site? Did you believe the Vet River Boat people? Maybe you should be 404...I am not going to blow my own horn here. What the fact is is that I loved the contributions and the Power Points...the only guise I have is that I still look at real good looking girls when my wife turns here head!
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Post by MaineManiac on Aug 23, 2008 15:34:24 GMT -6
CRL has nailed my point. CoachD - I don't get why you can't see that. Must be one of Huey's cronies.
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 15:37:03 GMT -6
Thank you Mr. Gould...by the way your Mustard is the best!
PS. Darn! my Blog site is on this page...I stopped blogging till recently because I was always here!
Hot Dang! Tom Cruise web site is on Huey´s? run for your lives, Scientology has taken control of this place!!!!!!!!!
Mr Gould maybe we are not CLEAR?(A state of being in touch with the reality of the truth of Ron L Hubbards Mumbo Jumbo)...
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Post by brophy on Aug 23, 2008 15:46:41 GMT -6
Are you guys kidding me, Huey creates this site and pours his time and effort into it for the last few years to help coaches he's never met and you guys have the internet balls to rip him for editing his OWN site? Wow. word. How many have contributed articles, or donated, or whatever else for the intent of helping others out have been contributed (if you are complaining)? Be thankful this site exists, period. Having a portal to purchase industry produced videos has absolutely no bearing (non-competiting entities) on pdfs & ppts. PS - I think y'all are referring to "Wild Bunch" & "2-Level Defense" Ted Seay of DoD stationed in Austrian fame |
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 15:50:06 GMT -6
Et Tu Brutus?
Hey Huey could sell up Blow up Joe Paterno´s for all I care...but I really loved the free site....
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Post by tog on Aug 23, 2008 15:51:38 GMT -6
Materials that are duplicated are Hueys responsibility, that is a given. But , and I only speak for myself. I have given my own material, again I state" my own material"!... freely with the intent of sharing and passing along what ever information my small brain can give. Their have been others, Brophy for one. We ask no trade, we ask for no info how to defend or what offense to run, and then use it in publications as our own gifted knowledge(I deem myself a Son of the South therefore I will not mention the Poltroon, ops excuse me" gentleman " not Huey but some other film flam person non - gratis or scalliwag...) Now some of you state" hey give Huey a chance", well fine, but he gave us no chance in his change to explain or say hey! "This is my ball and do it my way or I am going home"!. I understand the costs and the expense and time, but their is ads on this site and their is subscriptions too, that garner some kinda of enrichment, whether small or large is not my business, but what is my business is that free trade was established and then broken off. Genteel persons wars have been fought for this reason alone. The fact is this, the sharing part of this network is gone the ultimate freebie,and that is a shame now we have DVD´s to look at and say hey 39.95...it´s at the start of the season and some coaches may need some info for a specific game, maybe one of you capitalist make dough at any cost, (wonder why China owns our A´sses type, instead of listing to Rush, try reading the Wall Street Journal for the truth!") type. I myself will still visit the place,( sentimental type) but what I know, which is very little stops after this postings. As W.C. Fields Epitaph reads" I rather be in Philadelphia"... Adios and Asta la Vista Baby CRL The information about you being willing to help others for free is still saved and ready to go. Huey is working on weaning those kind of threads/posts from those of the pure "trade copyrighted material" type. Right now the trading post is offline to regular users, but not to huey. Liberalhater-give me a break, Huey is a coach at a new school implementing an entirely different offense in Texas. The hours we put in here are tremendous. He will address these issues when he is ready. In the meantime, the moderators and Huey and I have been talking quite a bit about making changes to the trading post section anyway. Just for plain old liability reasons. The AFM connection to this site will also be explained in further detail by Huey when he has some time to get that done. You may not like the process, but do not question the man's integrity or work ethic. I can vouch for both. Hell, I don't need to. His actions do and have since the start of this site and since I have known the man long before this site was even thought of. now just trust that we are taking care of things. There are some great things coming with the site. These things will help pay for the site and help it grow with more features etc. It will also allow for some great learning from many here that have asked for well done information via video in the past. so relax |
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Post by tog on Aug 23, 2008 15:54:41 GMT -6
in other words crl, the good non-copyrighted stuff that people are willing to share will be put back up or at least allowed to be put back up. The standard "trade" lists will be a little different for cya purposes on us, but there will still be a way for people wanting to trade to let that be known. An easy way would be to say in your sig line
hey-wanna trade? send me a pm and we can exchange lists
how hard is that?
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Post by tye2021 on Aug 23, 2008 15:55:04 GMT -6
With all due respect why does he have to let anyone know what changes he's making. Its HIS site that HE pays for. And HE is doing what HE needs to do to keep HIS site running so that WE can continue to have a network of of coaches all over the world in one spot to share ideas with.
Ok you can't get free downloads at this time. Other than that what has changed? When this site was first created there wasn't a download area. no one seemed to have a problem visiting the site then. Like others have said you can PM each other if you need or want to trade playbooks.
Seriously would you rather pay a monthly membership fee?
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Post by brophy on Aug 23, 2008 15:58:44 GMT -6
Et Tu Brutus? Hey Huey could sell up Blow up Joe Paterno´s for all I care...but I really loved the free site.... what isn't free, though? You can still post and exchange ideas. The materials hosted in the 'playbook section' were done so on other sites (fileden / savefile) created by many different coaches. If you were looking at sharing stuff, you can put your file links in your sig The "Trade" section, if I'm not mistaken NO video trade threads have existed for quite some time, since the proliferation of requests for COPYRIGHTED material, which would make this site an enabler of an illegal practice. Removing the forum that no actual posts existed hardly seems newsworthy. If this site hosts a video sales portal, I don't see how it comprimises the integrity of the site. No ONE is posting with the intent of selling THEIR VIDEOS (here is the order form), well, maybe some are.....but  that isn't what THIS SITE IS ABOUT. It is about exchanging ideas, not pimping products. Getränk ließ wir und Videospielspiel hier ist Ihr kostenloses Download oh, and DOWN WITH THE A-11  |
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 16:08:37 GMT -6
Sorry, but I have been reading to many books about the Civil War and ....well forget it, let´s wait and see.
Danke für die Kostenloses site Herr Broph Miester.
Bitte, ich haben kine vienig lust( German types, I know my sparche is the worst, but I try)
Strength and Honor
PS : Broph some guy emailed me about opening a Mac´s in Saigon(Ho Chi Ming City) because of your comment on my blog!
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2008 16:13:55 GMT -6
How can I prove it, it´s down!...I think Chris Brown has one in his Scrib material on the web...look up at the fourth post on this thread for my name. as for you don´t know TED is like asking who is President of the US on this site, my Grandmother knows who Ted Seely is and she has been dead for 20 years(God rest her soul) which means you really never looked at the Free no Trade site! This fine gentleman has placed many free contributions, more than mine.Have you ever looked at this part of the site? Did you believe the Vet River Boat people? Maybe you should be 404...I am not going to blow my own horn here. What the fact is is that I loved the contributions and the Power Points...the only guise I have is that I still look at real good looking girls when my wife turns here head! Yes, apparently you knew Ted Seay so WELL, and you are so familiar with the Free contributions that you DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HIS FREAKIN NAME. Perhaps Ted Seely is some guy your Granny dated during the war. See, I know who Ted Seay is, apparently YOU don't. And as I suspected...the ORIGINAL information still exists, and will still be available. Now, for the FOURTH time, You have failed to to state what is keeping you from contributing any of your information for free. I guess you are busy with Ted Seely. For the FOURTH time you have failed to say how the web site has changed significantly with the addition of a portal for purchases... |
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Post by phantom on Aug 23, 2008 16:24:40 GMT -6
I have no issue with making the money needed to run the site. It is his site and he can run it how he likes. Obviously he has decided to commercialize. It is America, he can do it. I just thought this was a site to share football materials. It is now clear that CoachHuey.com is a business designed to spin a profit. Again, this is fine. We live in a capitalistic country. All message boards ultimately come to an end in this fashion. Now many of us need to go in search of a board that is what Huey.com was for the past few years - free, non-profit, and helpful. My singular issue is that I gave my materials freely thinking all would do the same; all of you have as well. Now, what I gave freely is being commercialized. It is now clear that this initial vision has changed. Whoah. The heart of the site is the message board and the whiteboard-at least it is to me. That's free and will remain so. The ability to exchange ideas hasn't changed. The trading post will be back. You just will not be able to trade for pirated versions of commercial material. I don't see how that changes the vision of the site. |
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 16:25:51 GMT -6
Firstly, seay seely whats the dif...and my Grand Ma dated the coach at Texas A and I...so do me a fave when the site pops up take a look. I don´t know Ted, have a couple of E.mails from him when I was in Vienna. As I stated, I don´t care if Huey sells blow up Joe Paterno Dolls, I don´t care if I see Tom Cruise 25 year web site postings! I don´t care that I cannot spell! I just want the posting back. PS, look at my blog if you like. If the site comes back, I will place my lunacy on it for the world to see, well maybe not for you! But I am for free exchange....free. As for copyright materials, mine always have written that is for demo only and not for sale, maybe it runs in the family as Trosky was a relation...hail the international!
5085 ...life is to short and I am working on a 30/50 front right now.Wait till the site comes up and then you can riddle me with your cross examination...and I will have my dictionary in hand.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2008 16:37:59 GMT -6
Firstly, seay seely whats the dif...and my Grand Ma dated the coach at Texas A and I...so do me a fave when the site pops up take a look. I don´t know Ted, have a couple of E.mails from him when I was in Vienna. As I stated, I don´t care if Huey sells blow up Joe Paterno Dolls, I don´t care if I see Tom Cruise 25 year web site postings! I don´t care that I cannot spell! I just want the posting back. PS, look at my blog if you like. If the site comes back, I will place my lunacy on it for the world to see, well maybe not for you! But I am for free exchange....free. As for copyright materials, mine always have written that is for demo only and not for sale, maybe it runs in the family as Trosky was a relation...hail the international! For the FIFTH time you have not stated WHY you can not share your materials on the site for free just because the playbook/trade section is not there. |
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Post by brophy on Aug 23, 2008 16:52:41 GMT -6
lol. yeah, I'm not entirely sure what the vociferous counter-argument was supposed to accomplish, anyway besides an ad hominem rebuttal, that had nothing to do with your original argument. (Coachd, I don't think you will pass the LSAT with these kind of rebuttals) However, I will state that I know 'crl' has been around from the beginning and is a very valuable contributor since then. I've learned a lot from him. I just thought I'd supply that as a character witness, since there seems to be a lot of 'character assassinations' going on here. |
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 16:52:57 GMT -6
Gee guy....I can PM them, I can send them to people when they ask about something I wrote. OK , here is a story, Tommy goes to the Library and wants a book on Whales, he has wrote a report on them and what to know even more about them...got that? But the Library is closed! He has no reference or browsing section he has squat, he can´t get no info! If I want info say on a 52 defense, I could look this part of this site up and their would be many resources, but no I have write and wait for response and I have a game that I need as much info as I can get Pronto. Here is another story, I have good success with a coverage in a situation Vs. the Spread, I make a PPt for my players, later on after season ends I place this in the free PPt section for other coaches to look at...like a mini clinic. Some coaches PM me and ask me questions and give different situations. I learn from them as well, I am better at my job, and I improve what I can do with this coverage. Next season comes up some coach in Kansas is looking for info on a certain coverage he finds my power point and it helps him. It is a Library, a vault of stuff we can use now not waiting for twenty responses, not that it is bad I have asked for info that way. But haveing a reference library is better.
Thank you Broph....by the way you interested in opening a Mac´s in Saigon with me?
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2008 16:55:41 GMT -6
Gee guy....I can PM them, I can send them to people when they ask about something I wrote. OK , here is a story, Tommy goes to the Library and wants a book on Whales, he has wrote a report on them and what to know even more about them...got that? But the Library is closed! He has no reference or browsing section he has squat, he can´t get no info! If I want info say on a 52 defense, I could look this part of this site up and their would be many resources, but no I have write and wait for response and I have a game that I need as much info as I can get Pronto. Here is another story, I have good success with a coverage in a situation Vs. the Spread, I make a PPt for my players, later on after season ends I place this in the free PPt section for other coaches to look at...like a mini clinic. Some coaches PM me and ask me questions and give different situations. I learn from them as well, I am better at my job, and I improve what I can do with this coverage. Next season comes up some coach in Kansas is looking for info on a certain coverage he finds my power point and it helps him. It is a Library, a vault of stuff we can use now not waiting for twenty responses, not that it is bad I have asked for info that way. But haveing a reference library is better. Thank you Broph....by the way you intrested in opening a Mac´s in Siagon with me? Umm..there is an articles section |
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 17:02:33 GMT -6
somebody shoot me...OK I will dumb it down. Me Like Picture, Me learn faster with Picture, me no read article when me can see how 1 and 3 teq fit better or Cov 3 no good...if me want article me go to AFCA site and put in magic password. Get article about blow up Joe Paterno´s. Other Coaches like Me too! And article section do not have about a 1000 reference.
Me say good night and God speed, I take about 30 Pheno barbital and two glass Vodka, and Meet Tom Landry and Vince Lombardi , Bill Walsh and Paul Brown...
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2008 17:06:10 GMT -6
lol. yeah, I'm not entirely sure what the vociferous counter-argument was supposed to accomplish, anyway besides an ad hominem rebuttal, that had nothing to do with your original argument. (Coachd, I don't think you will pass the LSAT with these kind of rebuttals) Which rebuttals are you referring to? I do believe CRL was the first to say I had no knowledge of the portion of the site because I did not know who "the TED SEELY" was (direct quote, so I included the "the" in there). My rebuttal, correctly identifying the person dismissed his assertion. LSAT passed. (Ding) I have seen his work as well. I am simply waiting for him to explain why this site is now SIGNIFICANTLY different. I am also curious why he keeps alluding to this site no longer being "free", or the ability to exchange ideas and materials is not "free" |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2008 17:11:18 GMT -6
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 17:19:13 GMT -6
Ok, sorry Broph that you got involved, I was offered a scholarship to Bolt Law School at UC Berkley by the way and I did real bad on my LSAT...The "The "was an error therefore not false testimony, states evidence is cleared from the jury and new testimony which is corrected is introduced. As to the fact in "FREE" the site has been taken down, the use of FREE was in that "said site" with "said material" was "FREE" and thus indicated by the defense as that, exclusively. Thus barring any further questions in reference to said "THE and FREE" the case will proceed and if consul wishes to tempt my will, then an order of contempt will be issued by the bench.
I wrote this like an hour ago!
Sorry, but I have been reading to many books about the Civil War and ....well forget it, let´s wait and see.
PS, Try De- Cafe and your suppositories are a bit to strong....what you saw on TED´s stuff was just a tip of the iceberg. Ted sorry for bringing your name into this.
Gone
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Post by phantom on Aug 23, 2008 17:22:40 GMT -6
I find this thread to be very depressing.
I've been involved in internet coaching sites pretty much from when there have been internet coaching sites. Doug Maly's, Tobys, I was there.
This is the best coaching site that I've ever seen and I've seen them all. Now I'm reading guys who are upset because they can't pirate videos. Well, tootsie baby. Too freaking bad.
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Post by crl on Aug 23, 2008 17:27:37 GMT -6
Phantom
I don´t pirate videos, I buy them...I am talking about Power Points and Old Playbooks. Gee has the world gone mad?
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Post by MaineManiac on Aug 23, 2008 18:19:42 GMT -6
Bummer this has gone the way it is. I really did enjoy this site.
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Post by brophy on Aug 23, 2008 18:30:33 GMT -6
Bummer this has gone the way it is. I really did enjoy this site. WHAT changed? |
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Post by tog on Aug 23, 2008 18:33:03 GMT -6
Phantom I don´t pirate videos, I buy them...I am talking about Power Points and Old Playbooks. Gee has the world gone mad? if they aren't copyrighted they will have a place right now that place is down we are working on getting it back up as soon as possible gould-what is your specific issue with adjusting the trade section so we don't get sued? we have been talking about making adjustments there for a long time for cya reasons there is no "used car salesman" or "snake oil" self promotion going on here--it is just an avenue to a line of good products that will help the site stay afloat huey fronts the money for the site from the start and has kept it afloat with some contributions and very very limited advertising the site becomes big enough to do something with AFM and you begrudge the man? ridiculous |
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Post by PSS on Aug 23, 2008 18:36:37 GMT -6
Bummer this has gone the way it is. I really did enjoy this site. This site is more than trading material playbooks, power points, etc. That was one section out of several. The Offensive and Defensive sections, along with the General Board are much more used than any other section of this board. I don't see why removing that section (trading) is upsetting so many. As Tog and Phantom pointed out, if you are taking part in a discussion in a thread (all members are free to participate), and you want more information, send a U2U and ask for more info. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2008 18:51:14 GMT -6
Very surprised this thread has gone this way. I agree with the usage PSS just pointed out. Weeks would go by without me checking the "trading post" but very rarely does a day go by without me checking the offensive and general boards.
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that isn't what THIS SITE IS ABOUT. It is about exchanging ideas, not pimping products.
