lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Dec 8, 2023 11:50:25 GMT -6
Falling under the category of "you have done a good job so I want you to do more work that no one else wants to do"
I have now been tasked with doing the special teams stats as well. So Question for the group:
1. How do you figure punt and kick off with returns? I know on Punt that it is from the LOS and not where he kicked it from and KO is obviously from the 40. Do you subtract what ever yardage the returner brings it back from the distance? So we kicked it from the 40 the returner catches it on the 10 and returns it to the 20 is that 50 yards (40 to the -10) or is it 40 yards (40 - 20(where it was caught + the return)?
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Dec 6, 2023 12:19:13 GMT -6
Where I was in California JV and Varsity, both played on Fridays, we had team dinner Thursday night, parents brought a dish that could feed 10-15 kids and everybody ate together.
On Fridays we would have a sandwich, fruit and water and Gatorade for the JV (their game was at 4:30). Varsity for us was a little different because I had a dad that owned a Chinese restaurant, so he would make these rice, broccoli, and Chicken bowls for each player, it was awesome! Unfortunately, he only had 2 sons in the program so after those two graduated he stopped doing the bowls. But that also coincided with my last year at the school.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 29, 2023 6:49:16 GMT -6
Also, a reminder for the young bucks (and us old farts too), you should be spending half of your offseason time learning the other side of the ball. Not to mention Kicking Game. Which brings up a pet peeve of mine - Some HS coaches will spend a lot of time developing QBs, but none developing Punters, Place kickers, Deep Snappers. Would you just hope a good passer somehow shows up or you can't throw the ball? Same goes with other Specialists. Kicking is 1/3 of football. Breaks happen in the Kicking Game. You have to coach it as well as other two phases or risking losing there. I always sent my kickers to a kicking camp. The program would pay for half of it and I made the kids bring me back a practice plan that would make them a better kicker. I never kicked, even for fun. My older son was a college soccer player and he couldn't kick a football. How am I going to coach that? I did, however, long snap in college so I do coach that aspect up. For the last 13 years I have taught every one of our long snappers.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 28, 2023 8:04:55 GMT -6
I would kick it hard on the ground down the middle of the field. If anything it could hit one of their players and we recover. You are also asking kids that generally don't field kicks to try and corral a bullet of a football bouncing around on the ground.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 21, 2023 12:16:41 GMT -6
What do you do to learn from film? I have access to all of the games from a team that runs a very similar defense to what I run and I want to learn what he is doing. However, I can't call him up since we play them he doesn't readily share his information. Are you drawing up the plays and what the defense did? Are you watching the film over and over again? I am just looking for tips and suggestions that I can use to learn what other teams are doing to improve my knowledge. If you have it in hudl break it down with your terminology and then run reports. I can't break it down in Hudl. I don't have that much access. But the question remains if I was watching games on NFHS or another platform what has worked for coaches to learn from film when you can't talk to the coach? That is the answer I am looking for in this question.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 21, 2023 9:45:21 GMT -6
What do you do to learn from film? I have access to all of the games from a team that runs a very similar defense to what I run and I want to learn what he is doing. However, I can't call him up since we play them he doesn't readily share his information.
Are you drawing up the plays and what the defense did?
Are you watching the film over and over again?
I am just looking for tips and suggestions that I can use to learn what other teams are doing to improve my knowledge.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 21, 2023 9:40:32 GMT -6
Meanwhile, 5 of the 6 finalists in the Illinois state championships 1A-3A are UC wing-t/flexbone teams. I'm fairly certain all 5 beat shotgun spread teams in the semis. lower levels have more variance. Last week in 4A, there was a game that had a spread team beat another team 68-53.... the losing team had RB go for bout 360 yards and 8 IDs.... I'm not sure what that losing team did feature offensively. Back home in 2A a school that has multiple state championships that did a lot of damage with Wing Bone/Wish Bone has gone 'spread'..... and basically run the same option/power offense they have run for the last 30 years..... The reason being they were getting poached by other teams b/c the college recruiters told a QB that 'they didn't throw the ball enough' The losing team is 11/21 personal (H back mostly/ some TE) they run the basics. Power, Counter, IZ and OZ. They had a nasty offensive line that took pride in mauling people and probably the top RB in the state.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 14, 2023 7:59:45 GMT -6
I have been tasked with updating and correcting our Stats on Maxpreps, we had a guy that used to do it but he only recorded Tackles and turnovers for defense (he is our assistant offensive line coach, so I think he thought he was doing defense a favor by doing stats)
Question #1 for the group: MaxPreps has a column for TFL do you record tackles and TFL? For example #20 had 12 tackles 2 were TFLs does he get 12 tackles and 2 TFL or 10 tackles and 2 TFL?
Question #2: If the pass is uncatchable or just purposely thrown out of bounds do you still give the DB a pass defended?
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 10, 2023 9:18:56 GMT -6
A lot of schools that I have seen use this VNN, however it is rarely up to date. When you go to a schools website and click on the athletics link it takes you to an outside source ran by VNN. Our school uses it and I know we have never updated it as a football staff. VNN sucks. Ours has had all kinds of issues getting stuff input and updated. They wanted to keep giving us work arounds so I finally said eff it and refused to use it until it worked properly again. That was about 6 weeks ago. Maybe others have bad better issues, but if someone is actively searching for a source for building a team website, I would not recommend VNN. I am usually the guy that gets to do the website stuff and I have not been asked to do anything with it. I know our AD has to give me permission but I think what you are saying is spot on and our AD just doesn't give a $h!t enough to deal with it. I am not even sure what the cost is but if everyone is having these issues then VNN is making a killing for having so many websites that don't do anything but all the teams have them.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 10, 2023 8:32:48 GMT -6
A lot of schools that I have seen use this VNN, however it is rarely up to date. When you go to a schools website and click on the athletics link it takes you to an outside source ran by VNN. Our school uses it and I know we have never updated it as a football staff.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Nov 9, 2023 7:48:10 GMT -6
We are a field and boundary based defense if the ball is on the hash The SAM, MIKE, and STRONG SAFETY go to the field. If we are in the middle of the field we call it to the passing strength. The rule is if the ball is in between the goal post we call it to the passing strength, anywhere outside of the goal post and it is "on a Hash". Our practice field only has one set of goal posts. Our Varsity practices going into that end zone and our JV practices going away from that end zone. So during practice JV kids are constantly turning around to see if the ball is in between the goal post, so they can call the defense.
Last JV game of the season, playing our rival, tight game we need to get a stop to get our offense back the ball. Ball is in the somewhere near the middle of the field. I am trying to make a call to send pressure for but I need to know what side the SAM is on to make the call so I am yelling to my LB's for the strength call. Both of my LB's turn around and look behind them to see if the ball is in between the goal post. Sometimes you just have to let things go.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Sept 28, 2023 8:47:57 GMT -6
Good and bad. My older son played football for one year in PeeWee and did not like it. He had always been a soccer kid. He went to a small college on a Soccer scholarship. The hardest day was when I was trying to teach him something he said "I want to be coached by people that play the sport" I left him alone after that, I did take him to as many camps and clinics as I could but I did not coach him.
My younger son doesn't seem to be a rough and tumble type of kid not sure if he is going to play football or not. He did play one year of flag football but never got the ball because he can't catch (neither can I and I can't throw a football worth a crap and I coach football), my wife thinks that he shouldn't play football for that reason. I have had to explain to her that there are really only 5 positions that HAVE to be able to catch the ball in football so that leaves 17 other positions on the field that don't!
He has been playing soccer in youth leagues but he is slow, I have a feeling that he is going to be a pretty good sized kid (his older brother is 6'3" but skinny as a rail, all his mother) my younger son is built like me so hopefully his mom's side will bring the height!
Lately he has been wanting to work more on his running and getting better at sports which I am excited about. If he doesn't want to play sports I am okay with that, he also is a good piano player and enjoys music. What ever he does I will be proud and support him.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Sept 21, 2023 9:16:47 GMT -6
They keep pushing the "NEW" Hudl but every time I try and use it to break down film it freezes on me. I have to close out my web browser and then bring it back up and find the last play I was working on. It is a pain in the A$$. I will stick with the classic only because we had a team in our league this year that used some other system that was supposed to be compatible with Hudl but it took 3+ hours to download and then load their film into Hudl.
Hudl has the market cornered and they know it, don't expect any changes soon.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on May 9, 2023 9:40:33 GMT -6
Friday - After the game, break down field get laundry started. Go home have a bourbon if we won, have multiple if we lost.
Saturday - On our own, grade players from the game, start breaking down next weeks opponent. Text through out the day with fellow coaches (I am an early riser, sleeping in for me is 6 a.m. so I usually have this done by 9 or 10) spend the day with the family. Finish laundry, we have a rotation so no one coach is doing it every weekend.
Sunday - meet as a staff after church, go over grades, injury report, talk as a staff about what needs to be the focus of the week. Break out into Defense and offense gameplan until 4. Players come in for meetings and film. Home by 6 at the latest
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on May 9, 2023 5:55:46 GMT -6
P.S. he came up with the avatar that I use on this page.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on May 9, 2023 5:55:16 GMT -6
I have gone to the guy that did all the printing for our cloth with a logo that I liked and asked them to if they could come up with something similar for my team. As long as I bought a certain number of items with the logo it didn't cost me anything for the design (I think it was 25 t-shirts) They have artist that do that and they will send you a copy to approve before they print it. Don't be afraid to tell them what you think or what you like and dislike, it is there job to make it look the way you want.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Apr 19, 2023 7:14:54 GMT -6
Awesome resource, thanks for putting this together.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Feb 21, 2023 13:33:13 GMT -6
Stars are based on the camps that these ranking services deem as being of value. If the kid has not been to any of these camps he wont earn "stars" It is a money grab in my opinion. Kids are much better going to college camps and letting themselves be seen by the coaches that will actually be coaching them
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Feb 21, 2023 10:22:57 GMT -6
The one that always got me was missing a spring practice to get fitted for a tux for prom. Not like the mall was open till 9 and we were usually done by 5:30 or 6.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Feb 21, 2023 10:21:17 GMT -6
A few years ago there was a video on FB or Twitter, that showed a coach teaching his entire team how to change a tire. All the comments were about how this coach was teaching life lessons and being a father figure to these young men, real feel good stuff. But there was one football coach on there that chimed in with the truth. One or more of his players missed practice because they said they had a flat tire and this coach was going to eliminate that excuse by showing the entire team how to do the repair. That way, the next time one of his players called and said they had a flat, he could tell them to change it and get to practice.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Jan 25, 2023 7:49:21 GMT -6
Had a kid named Oscar, good kid, horrible student. Comes out the spring of his sophomore year. Works hard in the weight room, started playing center for us. Grades come out and he is not eligible. I kept him on the team because I liked him and I thought he needed us. He is on the practice squad and is a beast both at NG and Center. Progress reports come out and he makes grades so he can play for the last half of the season.
We start him at Center and we are playing a team that has a NG that has several offers and is a terror in the middle of the defense. All week we are working the double teams and emphasizing how difficult it is going to be to block this kid.
Game time comes and Oscar is almost foaming at the mouth he is so ready to play. 1st series we go out there and we run Midline. Oscar destroys this kid, completely lifted him up and flat backed him. All of us were in shock! Oscars stands up off the kid and yells "What's the TASTE GROUND like!!" You could here it in the stands. All the coaches, refs and players just stop and look at each other as if to say "WTF did he just say?"
He dominated that kid for the rest of the game. Played his Junior and Senior year for us was first team all league both years, graduated high school and joined the Marines (I could not think of a better example of what a Marine is then Oscar) last time I talked to him he was still in the Marines and up for a job that had pretty high clearance as an investigator had to come talk to me about him to make sure that he was a good fit for the job.
We actually had shirts made at the end of the season for all the lineman with "What's the TASTE GROUND like!!" on them.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Jan 11, 2023 14:25:51 GMT -6
We used Hudl Sideline, I don't like it. It is not reliable at all. But our AD bought the whole school package so we are stuck with it.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Jan 11, 2023 13:30:58 GMT -6
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Jan 11, 2023 13:28:15 GMT -6
At my last school our students were required to complete 10 hours of community service a year, I had a couple of students that approached me about working for the football team. They ended up being our filmers, we taught them how to film during spring practice and they ended up doing a really good job for us, we ended up with 3 (endzone, wide and tight). As more kids heard about it we had more interest. We ended up with 2 stats girls, we used the stats sheet off of MaxPreps, and had them take stats on old game film to practice. We also had field managers that would help set up bags and cones and then stay with a position group with a 6-pack of water bottles so we actually ended up eliminating water breaks from our practices and saved about 30 -40 minutes on practice. The players just grabbed a drink in between reps whenever they wanted and we had a clock operator (just for practice, she did not do games. But she enjoyed sitting in the booth and doing her homework).
In exchange they would get a t-shirt, a sweatshirt or jacket, and all of their hours completed during the football season. They were also responsible for training their replacements for when they graduated.
Worked great for us.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Dec 2, 2022 9:59:33 GMT -6
We had a board in the weight room with every kids name on a tag. The board had different levels based on effort. We had an 85% requirement for the weightroom unless you were in another sport. We would move the kids up and down the board based on their attendance and meeting the requirements. The kids were checking that board all the time to see where they were.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Oct 26, 2022 6:11:49 GMT -6
The rest of the story goes... Nothing, I told our HC about it and he said no, that we would not pay for student artwork. He also mentioned that he didn't want to deal with parents outside of the program and that he wasn't going to answer phone calls or emails about a t-shirt design. I completely agree with him. These shirts were not going to be sold it would be something the starting D gets to wear on our Thursday walk through and then they keep after the season.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Oct 13, 2022 13:29:24 GMT -6
The art teacher at our school post some of her students work in the hallway for people to see, since it is October and Halloween the art kids are drawing skulls and skeletons.
One student drew a Bad A$$ skull and I asked if I could get a copy to put on a t-shirt for the defense. The kid was super excited that the football team would have her artwork on them and agreed. I took a couple of pictures and so that I could send it to our t-shirt guy and see what he could do with it.
Today the art teacher came to me and said the parents are upset because they think the child should be paid for the art work. I don't have a problem with that but what is it worth to pay a kid for a drawing that you are going to put on a t-shirt. Plus the way the mom's email read made it seem like she thought we were intentionally trying to rip the kid off. Honestly, I hadn't even thought about paying the kid, she seemed really excited. I looked at it as one of those influencer things were we wear your stuff for free and your name gets out there as an amazing artist.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Oct 13, 2022 13:23:39 GMT -6
I had never heard that term until I moved to South Carolina, all three schools that I have coached at in SC have used it. This thread explained a lot. In California we just said "Flip It"
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Sept 13, 2022 7:26:22 GMT -6
My second year at a school we had our OC commit suicide, the following summer we had a player drown, the year after that we had another player drown. I can tell you that it is hard to deal with, but you need to let the players grieve in their own way. Some players just want to move on and have a normal routine, some players want to hold on to it and have it for motivation.
There is something to be said for a sense of normalcy when it comes to dealing with these types of issues. But don't shy away from acknowledging the fact that it happened. Address the elephant in the room and then move on, have a simple tribute for the player, such as there jersey on the bench, to remind the players that life happens fast and they need to live it.
|
|
lws55
Sophomore Member
Posts: 229
|
Post by lws55 on Aug 8, 2022 11:40:45 GMT -6
I received: 3 hats (home, away, and practice) 4 t-shirts 1 heavy shirt 2 polos (home, away) 2 pairs of shorts 1 sweatshirt was offered some hand me downs and left overs from years past, but nothing in my size.
Our HC is pretty awesome about the swag so I will be getting more stuff as the year goes on.
|
|