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Post by CS on May 31, 2023 8:46:27 GMT -6
This has been my rule every year I’ve coached and so far ZERO issues. Well, you are an idiot. Pretty sure he was kidding. It’s his rule but he’s never won one so it’s not been an issue is the joke
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Post by CS on May 30, 2023 15:58:54 GMT -6
I think the logical sense to it, is that it somewhat forces kids into playing the next season (or at least starting next season's activities). With the thought being that once they start they will continue; hopefully improving player retention. Well, since it didn't seem to work regarding the HC (he is jetting after the ring ceremony to a rival).... It’s been a work in progress all off season. Him and the superintendent didn’t jive. In his defense she doesn’t jive with many. I still think it’s a dumb rule
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Post by CS on May 30, 2023 11:08:48 GMT -6
Dumb rule. But if it’s a hill he wanted to die on then so be it
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Post by CS on May 30, 2023 6:00:40 GMT -6
I don’t think anyone here ever said they don’t scheme or breakdown film. What we were “b!tching” about is the fact that getting to the office at 6am and working until 3pm on Saturday after the game and getting skull drug every week probably isn’t the best way to do things Meetings don’t equal wins. He!! I would say that scheme and coaching prep is a way smaller fraction of winning than getting the kids to execute anything and that’s only second to having great players If you can have great players that execute you will win titles without all the other horse 💩 that some coaches romanticize about the grind I watch a ton of film, scheme, and draw my own play cards. Have I been out schemed before…absolutely. Everyone has. It had nothing to do with how much film I watched or the meetings we didn’t have. I do,however, have a problem with dingleberries getting on here and telling coaches who don’t like to meet for hours on the weekend that they should quit or don’t love the game. It’s major league douchery Name calling, how 5th grade of you. Talk about major league douchery... All I'm saying is it sounds like whining. Either do it or don't, whatever floats your boat. I just see a lot of guys that want to wear the free stuff and not put in the work is all I'm saying. No need for name calling. I didn't even stoop that low. Nah you just question work ethic and integrity of people you don’t know. I stand by what I said
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Post by CS on May 29, 2023 17:24:13 GMT -6
As players, do you really think Deion’s role was in any way comparable to Manning’s? A coach-on-the-field QB vs. a lockdown cover corner? You really don’t see my point here? Deion in his prime probably had one of the most simplistic roles in NFL history. Manning had one of the most complex. Because it’s a message board and it doesn’t matter what any of us says, but it’s still fun to speculate based on limited information. Yeah anyone arguing their OPINION is right is a dumb person in this case. We will see in a few years if he knows what he’s doing
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Post by CS on May 26, 2023 9:53:18 GMT -6
You can do the work and do it a different way. It seems to me the argument is can you do all the work at home with little to no face to face meeting and using technology to communicate or do you meet in person for a substantial amount of time. Either way. You are doing the work. The argument is which way is better. The answer is neither. Whatever works for you and your staff. You cannot convince me that if you do not study or break down film you are giving your team the best chance to win unless they are SIGNIFICANTLY better than the other team. Then it doesn’t matter. I don’t get the feeling that the guys making the no meeting argument don’t do the work. They just do it a different way. I don’t think anyone here ever said they don’t scheme or breakdown film. What we were “b!tching” about is the fact that getting to the office at 6am and working until 3pm on Saturday after the game and getting skull drug every week probably isn’t the best way to do things Meetings don’t equal wins. He!! I would say that scheme and coaching prep is a way smaller fraction of winning than getting the kids to execute anything and that’s only second to having great players If you can have great players that execute you will win titles without all the other horse 💩 that some coaches romanticize about the grind I watch a ton of film, scheme, and draw my own play cards. Have I been out schemed before…absolutely. Everyone has. It had nothing to do with how much film I watched or the meetings we didn’t have. I do,however, have a problem with dingleberries getting on here and telling coaches who don’t like to meet for hours on the weekend that they should quit or don’t love the game. It’s major league douchery
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Post by CS on May 25, 2023 14:11:06 GMT -6
I was on a staff that was just like this except we were 2-8. If it doesn't equal wins then I don't want to do it I worked on a staff with similar expectations. Coaches in at 6 to grade film, players show up at 9 for film. 11 AM workout and treatment then coaches were there anywhere from another hour to 3 or 4 PM that afternoon. Back on Sunday at 11 AM for defensive coaches meetings to install the game plan. That could last for 2 to 8 hours depending on what we were doing and who we were facing. The 4 years I was there, made the final 4 3 of the 4 and made at least the 2nd round of the playoffs every year. Now, Friday we go home after the W or L. Saturday morning I input stats. My staff has until Sunday at 2PM to grade their position group. What I have done is hired some ex-players who can't coach but are willing to help, input Hudl data on our opponent throughout the week. I finalize that on Saturday and start generating scouting reports. Sunday, I get up and finalize everything and we meet as a defensive staff at 2PM. This may last from 2 to 4 hours, but I try to have my guys out of there no later than 6PM. Now, I'm probably going to be the black sheep here, and I couldn't give 2 shites if I am, but if you don't love the game, don't do it. I love it. The breaking down of film, the making scouting reports, the meetings etc. I could talk football with a room full of corpses. Now, I get it, you need a life, but I'm a guy that if I'm going to do something it's going to be done to the best of my ability. If that means meeting for 4 hours on a Sunday so be it. I don't think some of you were 2-8 because you met for 8 hours on Saturday. That's absurd to even remotely blame the lack of success on that. As I showed, the meeting time has 0 to do with that. The meetings and the work are the items that give you a chance at success. I'm not sure how you can equate meeting time to wins and losses, it's not that pure of a mathematical relationship. It's the chance at winning you're looking for. Giving your players a fighting chance. if I don't meet, or I don't break down as many films as I can and do all I do, I feel like I'm cheating the kids, and I would never want that. What I have learned over the years is how to streamline meetings. We do not BS or gossip. It's all about ball, and how we can get our 11 to stop their 11. I have found you can trim a good hour to hour and a half out of your meeting times by removing all the "bar room chatter". Also, making sure everyone is prepared and has their stuff helps to keep the meeting rolling smoothly too. Each of my coaches has a job they have to do prior to Sunday. None are large tasks, but taken together as a whole, they make our Sundays go very smoothly. Anyhow, I'm sure some of you are triggered now, so let me have it. Nobody said meeting so long was the reason we lost. We said we were putting in tons of time and it wasn’t producing wins. Since you can throw sh!t around I feel that if you have to meet for 4 hours with everyone “prepared” then your meetings aren’t very good. We meet for about an hour on Monday and we were state runner up last year. Also in the previous stretch of time where I didn’t have to meet on weekends we were 49-12 with a state runner up 2 semi final appearances a quarter final and first round loss. We got all our work done at home
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Post by CS on May 20, 2023 4:20:59 GMT -6
Most coaches don't consider LBers-TEs "skill guys." RBs, maybe. Ok. I’ll take that….. We have had receivers move to DL and become All-CIF players. Never had one go to WR to OL. But plenty of TE, RB’s and LB’s. The thing I don’t get about everyone wanting to play receiver is that even if you’re a good one in a passing offense. If you get 5-6 receptions a game, that’s considered pretty good. If I were an ego guy. I’d want to play RB where 15-20 touches a game is more likely. Running backs have to run into really big guys. Most receivers are contact shy in my experience
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Post by CS on May 18, 2023 9:44:52 GMT -6
So, you've been a successful HC for a few years and you stop doing 7on7s they're going to fire you? I don't know...I was just offering up some new found advice I thought someone would find valuable/interesting. Could be a double edged sword.May be a way to keep parents off your back in some places or a way for you to open the door for more criticism if you're good in 7 on 7 and bad playing during the season
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Post by CS on May 17, 2023 7:35:49 GMT -6
Kids play HS Football for basically two reasons: Fun, and camaraderie. Coaches aren't the reason they go out, but they may be the reason they stay out. Losing 17 is VERY alarming, indicative of a real problem. May require some serious self-evaluation and soul-searching. 3 reasons.....and it's undefeated. Get involved in your feeder program. Let those 10 year old fat kids know you love them. More kids miss/quit because of ladies than play in this generation
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Post by CS on May 17, 2023 6:12:55 GMT -6
I have been coaching for almost 20 years. I'm talking about HS level, TX 5A. I asked because your problem with physicality/play fighting is what we call big brothering each other. I figured you have seen that in 20 years but I suppose you have been at schools with nothing but bada$$es. If you have lost 17 lineman but no skill guys then I would suspect the line coaches have got to be somewhat the problem. Could just be a crop failure of sh!tty/lazy kids I would look at what you guys are doing first then expand. How long are you keeping them away from doing team stuff and in indo? Lineman hate indo more than any other group cause they get stuck there for inordinate amounts of time.
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Post by CS on May 16, 2023 11:19:25 GMT -6
I feel like they are quitting because they don't have fun blocking, squeezing, spilling, and tackling over and over. Kids just seem different and not as willing to do the hard stuff. We don't wear those extra padded helmets and so after a few plays it doesn't appear legit upfront. Do lineman make "unspoken" agreements to make it look like real football at practice if they're not wanting to be physical? How long have you been coaching?
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Post by CS on May 10, 2023 12:45:14 GMT -6
When I have a chance to do it again we will have what we need to get done over the weekend and meet as a staff at 6 or 6:30 Monday morning to make sure we have a chance to speak face to face and be done with it. If we got to a point where I thought 30 mins was enough to get done what we needed then I would move it to 7 am
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Post by CS on May 10, 2023 8:30:17 GMT -6
As a HC, we met as a staff on Saturdays from 8 or 9 (I honestly can't remember- and it was fluid in case someone had something going on) until noon. That was it. We watched our film, and highlights of the upcoming opponent. We talked about what we wanted to do, what we thought we'd see and come to a bit of a consensus on what was going to happen. I'd ask if they thought we needed to work on anything in particular, they made suggestions and we left. Me and the DC (a former HC) would communicate via text the rest of the weekend on ideas, but that was the extent of football for us over the weekend. I've been on staffs that brought kids in on Saturdays and it was just a giant waste of time. I hated it. I vowed before I became HC I'd never do that and I didn't. I was on a staff where coaches came in on Saturday morning at 5am to go through film after playing on Friday night. Did film with the kids at 7, workout with them after, and then coaches meetings til about 1pm. Was miserable. Was only there for a year but we went 1-9. Really made me hate football. I was on a staff that was just like this except we were 2-8. If it doesn't equal wins then I don't want to do it
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Post by CS on May 9, 2023 8:55:22 GMT -6
There are zero reasons in this day and age to meet on the weekends
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Post by CS on May 9, 2023 4:29:13 GMT -6
I use EAST labs where I’m at
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Post by CS on May 2, 2023 16:17:11 GMT -6
Yes, I have to undo private QB training all the time. Last year was the worst example. The thing that irks me is that we can't have any contact all year with them and it really fuels the private coaching scene that is making things all kind of bad. Oregon allows some limited contact in the offseason. I think it's like two to four players can work with a coach at a time, and for a limited amount of time. I don't want to run practices, I don't want to run team, I don't want to install plays, but I'd love to be able to offer time for my players to work with their coaches *for free* on technique for 30 minutes a week or something. I think there's a way to balance this with the demands of other sports that would eliminate a lot of this private off-season mess and give kids who can't afford good offseason coaching a chance to improve like their wealthier peers. Run the flexbone. QB trainers heads would explode
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Post by CS on May 2, 2023 16:15:57 GMT -6
Today after many years I am finally graduating and completed my undergrad. Just wanted to share. It's been a journey man. Looking forward to the future. Congrats man!
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Post by CS on May 2, 2023 9:37:49 GMT -6
The last year I was a HC, I coached in a 2 school coop. The school I worked at had about 300 kids and the school we cooped with had about 130ish. Anyway, the main school's kids bought our program quickly and got to it. The other school's kids came up with all these weird ass suggestions and acted like they were the Bible. Finally I asked a kid where the got that {censored}. He told me from Mr "Smith". Turns out Mr "Smith" was their PE teacher. Guy's a minor professional bodybuilder. His wife is apparently very successful. He has a big social media presence and is always posting his weird workouts. Kids kept telling me that was what we needed to do. Finally, I said, "Look, Mr "Smith" is huge. Guy's very impressive looking. He also can't walk across a football field without sweating and panting. So, maybe leave the athletic development lifting to me? Oh, and guys, you don't have the kind of money to get that many roids." They all swore up and down he was "natty". Turns out, he's whatever the opposite of "natty" is. Is Mr. Smith the Liver King???
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Post by CS on May 2, 2023 3:46:07 GMT -6
Had a kid show me a video of a guy deadlifting 800# a few months back. I said “that’s impressive!” He looks at me and says “yeah but it’s sumo. {censored}.”
I wanted to punch him through the wall
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Post by CS on Apr 26, 2023 18:16:38 GMT -6
I doubt Deion’s X’s and O’s acumen is as good as many high school coaches. I think he would be terrible as a coordinator. 1) You base this on....? Wasn't he the OC of his son's HS as they won multiple state titles. I will be honest, I think a lot of people form an opinion because he is brash and loud. Those who work with him have always said his work ethic and attention to detail is spectacular. Bobby Bowden has said the same. Pretty sure he knows what he’s doing
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Post by CS on Apr 26, 2023 17:30:33 GMT -6
There's nothing inherently wrong with players being involved, but it doesn't amount to anything. They're kids, they shouldn't be involved in serious decision making, they don't have the prior knowledge to make reasonable and informed decisions. We are living in a time when far too many adults defer to children in decision making, yes they're "stakeholders" but they don't have the capacity to make good decisions, and definitely not decisions that will impact them for the next few years but will impact the rest of that coaches career. How can you say in one sentence that there is nothing wrong with kids being an involved then give great reasons why they shouldn’t be? Kids 100% should not be involved
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Post by CS on Apr 25, 2023 3:53:42 GMT -6
If I walked in and there were kids on the panel I’m walking out I'm kinda the same, but I'd driven an hour to get there, so, I figured I'd amuse myself. That would make me want to leave more because they wasted an hour of my time. I love working with kids but even the smart ones are dumba$$es. Having kids on a hiring panel just shows how out of touch those admin are
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Post by CS on Apr 24, 2023 19:22:38 GMT -6
If I walked in and there were kids on the panel I’m walking out
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Post by CS on Apr 18, 2023 11:15:26 GMT -6
I've run into a new and unpleasant situation this year in track. I've taken over the throws for our high school track team and changed some things. I have all of the kids take one or two standing/power position throws during meets and then allow them to work into the rotation in the disc and glide in the shot.
I do this because I'm undoing a lot of bad habits: they get more distance on their standing/power position throws than their spin/glide because they're throwing properly from the standing/power position. They'll take more full throws at meets once their form is nailed down. Until then, they'll perform better at meets without mucking up their throws.
Two straight meets, two girls have set PRs from the standing position from the power position and under-thrown with a full throw. They're great kids and understand the process. Their parents are a different story. During both meets, a mom and a dad have been pulling the girls aside and telling them not to listen to me and take four full throws. The girls haven't been listening to me as they're seeing the results but it's upsetting them and p-ssing me off.
I've explain to both parents the method behind the madness during and after meets. And, I've asked them to stop undermining but they just keep doing it. Our HC has approached them and told them the same but, again, they pulled it again this weekend. The bosses can't ban them from meets as a)they're away and b) they're not being disruptive. But, I am ready to lose my mind over this crap.
How supportive are the admin? If they aren't doing what you are telling them to do on purpose that's insubordination on their part. Don't take them to meets until they comply My bad you had a typo and I thought they were listening to their parents instead of you. Yeah if they are still doing what you ask them to do then don't worry about the parents
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Post by CS on Apr 13, 2023 16:47:01 GMT -6
I didn’t say anything this time
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Post by CS on Apr 10, 2023 12:15:28 GMT -6
Clamp can be played as both Alright, but still, when Clamp is listed as a Cover 7 coverage, why are the rules more like zone match than man match when Cover 7 is classified as "Man match quarters"? Is Clamp ran out of the Cover 8 family, too? If so, is that Kathy? Seems like I may have seen that on here in the past Clamp is cover 4 and cover 2 put together. So it can be ZM 4 and ZM 2 put together or MM 4 and MM 2 put together. The rules and techniques aren't the same
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Post by CS on Apr 8, 2023 18:48:24 GMT -6
In all seriousness, I would like someone who is more knowledgeable of the Saban world than me to explain why Clamp is classified in the Cover 7 family, and Cover 7 is always referred to as man match Quarters, but then the rules of Clamp are more zone match like the meme above mentions...Sooooo...why isn't it in the Cover 8 family (zone match quarters) instead? Lol Clamp can be played as both
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Post by CS on Apr 4, 2023 19:05:50 GMT -6
We had a young kid come in wanting to get his foot in the door, and it was wild. He'd somehow managed to get us into a quagmire in Vietnam AND the middle east, overuse our finite resources to put us at the mercy of OPEC, and created a tax structure and economic incentive system that completely choked out the middle class for 2 entire generations, AND somehow found time to override all commonsense gun laws so police and citizens both live in a constant, lawless warzone. He did this all while convincing everybody that a trans kid who got a participation ribbon was the real enemy. I, too, weep for our future. What in the {censored} are you talking about? This
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Post by CS on Apr 3, 2023 12:24:44 GMT -6
In most cases the high school diploma is a participation trophy
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