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Post by CS on Oct 5, 2020 13:11:41 GMT -6
It took all summer and the first 2 weeks of the season but I had a mom come and see me because I didn't give her kid player of the game in a game we lost 35-14. Gotta love priorities amaright Anyway, I thought it would be fun to read some good pissed off parent meeting stories Haven't read the rest of the thread and I'm sure you addressed this, but my favorite response to that, because we had a simliar issue when I was a HC and they didn't get their helmet stickers after we lost, is "we don't reward losing." If we play a game we have to give out the player of the game trophies. It's above my pay grade.
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Oct 3, 2020 5:54:59 GMT -6
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Post by CS on Oct 3, 2020 5:54:59 GMT -6
Tack bar and stiff brush
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Post by CS on Sept 29, 2020 10:34:17 GMT -6
The master "rebuilder" of downtrodden football teams was Paul Bear Bryant. Even though the "Bear" has been gone since 1983, his book "Building a Championship Football Team" has the best advice I ever saw about that topic, and is certainly NOT "out of date" (except for those who coach like a "wuss"). BUILDING A CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL TEAM Hardcover – by Paul W. "Bear" Bryant (Author) I'm gonna bite. What is coaching like a wuss? Probably not the best way to put it but I know what he is getting at. I would view them as someone that has no discipline in the program because they are afraid to hold people accountable
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Post by CS on Sept 28, 2020 12:59:05 GMT -6
So....I took over a similar situation in 2003. Team had only won 8 games in 7 seasons and not a single win in the past 3 seasons. Also smallest school in conference by far. Why did I take it over? B/c I wanted to be a HC & the guy I was working for wasn't going anywhere anytime soon. W/o HC expereince usually you have to take over for a successful retiree who names you their heir, or you gotta take a tough job. Having said that. I dii the following: 1 - Got an incoming list of all fresh and called all of them. 2- Set a summer camp w/ minimal cost to encourage attendance. 3 - Try to get a staff you can trust & is WILLING to ACCEPT your vision. Don't have to be all stars, just have to be willing team players w/ some work ethic. 4- Expect some disappointment. They will not GET IT right away. 5 - Tied in w/ #4. Modify your standards some. You can't get to play off caliber immediately. It's a process. If you kick some dude off the team right away, they won't see it as "this guy is serious, I want to play for him". they will see it as "this guys unfair" b/c they probably haven't learned the expectations that legit programs have & it will take time. Not saying you don't have expecatitons but they must build gradually. 6 - Have a clear as day vision & stick to it. Know what you're going to do on O & D and do it well. it doesn't have to be earth shattering stuff, it's not necessarily what you do but how well you do it. When I took over we won 1 game the 1st year & it was like a SB party b/c they hadn't won in so long. next year we won 2 & it was a big deal b/c they hadn't won more than once in a season in almost a decade. next year we won 4 & got knocked out of a play off berth on the last play of the season. Next season we went to play off's for 1st time in 16 years & won the only play off game in school history. The follwoing week we lost to eventual state champs by a TD. After that I took over a start up program closer to home and kind of emulated the same process. We are not world beaters but average a play off berth about every other season. Haven't gotten to the next level yet but trying. Always remember TALENT plays a HUGE role. Don't go down the rabbit hole of trying to find "magic bullets" b/c you prob shoot yourself in the foot. Sorry if this came off preachy, but I'm pretty passionate about the subject since literally my only HC experience is taking over a perennial loser and starting program from scratch at a new school. Good Luck! Thanks for sharing. I am much like you, in the fact that I'm very passionate about the opportunity to rebuild a program. I currently coach in one of the best conferences in my state. However, long-term I would much rather go try to rebuild struggling programs in rural parts of the state. Maybe I'm weird! I also agree that more times than not, your first HC job will be at a struggling program. That's why I enjoy learning about the things that have/have not worked for others when they have taken positions like these. Odds are I will never actually get the position at the school I mentioned above. I do figure when/ if I do get an opportunity, it will be in a similar situation. "The good jobs already have coaches"-Lou Holtz. I agree with what s73 said especially about expectations. I came in here from a very good program and it's been a struggle especially not getting a spring and half of the summer. Standards aren't where I want them but we are building. Have a vision and work to make it a reality, but you may have to lower standards like he said. Not on the important stuff but let some little things go until you build a solid relationship
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Post by CS on Sept 25, 2020 3:51:03 GMT -6
More drama unfolds. The kid who didn’t receive the award for player of the game is hurt and our starting QB. The mom that came and bitched at me called our backups mom to say her son would never be as good at QB.
Parents are nuts man
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Post by CS on Sept 22, 2020 12:48:41 GMT -6
Our best player's dad was an assistant coach with us. We benched his kid for a half because he made some disparaging comments toward the OL in front of the team. I was young and i mistakenly didn't think to inform him that he (the kid) was benched, instead i just put the other RB in. Well the kids dad is just blowing up on the sideline about why his kid isn't in, and saying if he was we would've already scored and blah blah blah. Eventually he starts disrespecting me (the OC) and our HC. Keep in mind im in the booth so im hearing it through the headset and as the HC is telling me, but i can see him blowing up. Eventually it gets to the point where the HC told him to leave the field, he said no, and stayed for the end of the first half. At half time he starts yelling at me in front of the team and eventually he gets "fired" on the spot. He then went into the stands and kept chirping until the game was over. Than we had a nice fun meeting on Monday where he threatened to move his kids (ours the Frosh RB, and his other son who was a starting varsity DB/WR). Var HC talked him down and he just made weird remarks in passing for the rest of the season when he came to pick up his kids. Jeez
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Post by CS on Sept 22, 2020 11:34:43 GMT -6
It took all summer and the first 2 weeks of the season but I had a mom come and see me because I didn't give her kid player of the game in a game we lost 35-14. Gotta love priorities amaright
Anyway, I thought it would be fun to read some good pissed off parent meeting stories
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Post by CS on Sept 17, 2020 3:20:32 GMT -6
I'm interested as to WHY OL is the hardest to staff in the opinion of many? I've read here that people feel its where you need your best coach, and that they are the position that get the blame; but no reason as to why this position would be more difficult to staff than any other. If we are asking all of our position coaches to do essentially the same tasks with their given position what specifically makes it harder to find someone who can do that task with the o-line? Because every head coach knows it’s the most important position to get right but hardly any will coach it or know how to coach it so you have to find someone you trust to do it for you
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Post by CS on Sept 15, 2020 3:51:19 GMT -6
O line
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Post by CS on Sept 12, 2020 16:38:32 GMT -6
On board means that when a decision is made final, everybody is on board with it, regardless of what individual assistant coaches think. Disagreement is fine, but its not the the ASST. coach’s decision. When we lose games, my boss loves to say its not the assistant coaches who’s name appear in the news paper.
Disagreement is fine but it needs to happen away from the kids. One coach should never override another during practice. Hell, I don't even do that when I'm a coordinator and I see something being taught in a manner I disagree with. I let the coach do their thing, pull them aside quickly and tell them how I want it done. And, it's understood that it needs to be taught that way and any further discussion will happen later.
I disagree with this. If something is being taught wrong then it needs to be addressed immediately. You can correct someone with dignity even in front of the players
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Post by CS on Sept 4, 2020 17:45:31 GMT -6
This was an actual bye week for us
Took Monday and today off(we lifted but no practice)
Tuesday- hard practice Wednesday- typical Wednesday practice Thursday- hardest practice of the week
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Post by CS on Sept 4, 2020 8:35:18 GMT -6
I'm curious what are somethings that all you coaches do to instill discipline within your program? How do you determine the severity of the punishment to equate the action committed? What are some unforgivable offenses in your programs? Lastly, how do you determine when it is time to cut someone loose? Or do you let them cut themselves more or less? Make sure they know the expectation and hold them accountable. I don't believe that discipline is punishment but I will do various things like rolling them, up downs, jump squats etc. I don't think too many things are unforgivable minus a felony I guess. When they become a detriment to the team. I have only had one kid that has been this way and found a way to stay out and it was my fault. Most of the time they will quit IME
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Post by CS on Aug 14, 2020 16:01:01 GMT -6
Benefit games start next week and non con start the week after for us
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Post by CS on Aug 10, 2020 3:27:19 GMT -6
I watch it early in the morning and then if I have down time any during the day on my phone
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Post by CS on Aug 4, 2020 12:57:46 GMT -6
I went and bought the large ONN speaker at Walmart and the app “seconds.” I love it. You set up the intervals and it will even tell you the period and start a countdown before it changes
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Post by CS on Aug 1, 2020 6:00:50 GMT -6
4 episodes in and this is a refreshing change of pace to the other seasons on both a coaches and player standpoint.
1)I will say it’s not as entertaining as the other seasons IMO because of no drama and general WTFs from the other seasons
2)I love listening to the DC talk “man.” He screams Cali “man.” Go get the fuking ball “man”
3) I genuinely want the players they are following to make it. The corner is the mouthy one but just acts like a corner in most programs IMO.
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Post by CS on Jul 31, 2020 14:24:41 GMT -6
We have a smaller school literally 10 miles away from us. My last school had a rival that was 20 min down the road. 2 schools before that we played 2 schools that were within 10-15 min of us. My first school was rivals with a school 10 min from them. All but 1 of those schools was in the smallest 2 classifications in the state. I’de say it happens more often than you think and those schools were all under the jurisdiction of a different LEA? I dont think it is either common or uncommon. I am saying that when dealing with a viral pandemic, it seems that a situation as described is a structural issue since such an “easy workaround” Yeah. One of those schools I could have run to if I wanted for a game. Little Rock has the only schools under one big umbrella that I know of. Im sure the bigger areas near Fayetteville have some of that going on
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Post by CS on Jul 31, 2020 14:12:20 GMT -6
What would you make of our community outlook if I told you kids are already moving in with a different parent 10 minutes down the road. Honesty- unless it is on a border, I would say if there are two school systems so close running under different LEAs that is a structural issue. I can understand their actions We have a smaller school literally 10 miles away from us. My last school had a rival that was 20 min down the road. 2 schools before that we played 2 schools that were within 10-15 min of us. My first school was rivals with a school 10 min from them. All but 1 of those schools was in the smallest 2 classifications in the state. I’de say it happens more often than you think
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Post by CS on Jul 31, 2020 12:52:20 GMT -6
Personally I haven’t Either. My A.D. came by practice this morning and told me that. Everyone’s freaked out around here about them canceling fall sports I hate the fact that the pessimistic view point will probably prevail. But it looks like that is where things are headed Governor just gave us the go ahead to start practice as planned. He’s taking the wait and see approach
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Post by CS on Jul 31, 2020 12:13:16 GMT -6
Female supe? Our Gov is making the announcement today at 1:30. Mississippi canceled fall sports state wide and it makes me worry about us I havent seen that announcement regarding Mississippi? Personally I haven’t Either. My A.D. came by practice this morning and told me that. Everyone’s freaked out around here about them canceling fall sports
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Post by CS on Jul 31, 2020 11:35:31 GMT -6
I know based on your other posts, you probably didn't see this coming meaning the kids probably did not either. That is tough for them. I would have bet my life and soul my district wouldn’t have been the first school in the state to cancel fall sports. Cancel eventually? Yes Lead the charge for the state of MO? Never Female supe? Our Gov is making the announcement today at 1:30. Mississippi canceled fall sports state wide and it makes me worry about us
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Post by CS on Jul 30, 2020 15:59:20 GMT -6
Well, we are the first (and only as of now) school in the state of MO to cancel fall sports. That’s bullchit. Any chance of rescheduling?
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Post by CS on Jul 25, 2020 14:53:55 GMT -6
I gave them helmets last month.
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Post by CS on Jul 23, 2020 4:07:53 GMT -6
I’m a “depends on how good your coaches are” guy
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Post by CS on Jul 18, 2020 20:51:17 GMT -6
I have probably watched all the way through 4 times
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 14:53:42 GMT -6
Are you telling me you have worked exclusively in schools that the community wasn’t able to use the field/fields at the school? Not in the "pick up" manner in which Bob Goodman described originally--no. A bunch of kids/people can't just show up and roam on the HS or Jr high campuses no. Well that’s odd to me. All I have ever seen are people using the fields to play pick up games and people using the track for workouts
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 13:46:47 GMT -6
Very common. Taxpayers paid for the schools field and track, thus it’s open for all when not in use by a school program. Private schools are the only ones I know that might keep it locked up. Very different. When you say fields, you aren't talking game fields are you (particularly grass)? Suburban district is a little over 1,100 square miles servicing about 40,000 students throughout 56 schools (8 high schools). larrymoe while the practice fields aren't able to be closed off, the campuses can be. Sure, kids could hop fences and such. While there isn't an active campaign to keep kids off, it is not welcomed. Urban district campuses are are locked up, so those lucky enough to have a patch of grass to practice on have their fields locked up. The rest use public spaces. Are you telling me you have worked exclusively in schools that the community wasn’t able to use the field/fields at the school?
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 10:51:43 GMT -6
I would love to see the community that some of these commentators live in. It sounds like another planet compared to everyone else I know on here. I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? I'm assuming he thinks it's uncommon to be appalled that kids have pick up football games on the field at the school
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 3:14:23 GMT -6
What kind of people live in your area? You talk about lawsuits and tax payers getting mad more than anyone I know. If someone tripped in a hole and broke a leg on your practice field playing a pick up game, the district wouldn’t be concerned with a lawsuit? Must be nice Couldn’t tell you. I do know people use the fields and if there was a lawsuit of Any kind I would suspect supes being supes would shut it down. So yeah it’s nice
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Post by CS on Jul 16, 2020 20:34:52 GMT -6
Nothing. I’m telling you the facilities are open. I have seen kids playing football games all weekend. Soccer games. Kick ball you name it Must be field turf I guess. Nice community! Not litigious i guess What kind of people live in your area? You talk about lawsuits and tax payers getting mad more than anyone I know.
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