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Post by option1 on Dec 9, 2021 9:33:27 GMT -6
I appreciate the responses but they are not helpful. My AD does not currently enforce much of anything. Not because he doesn't want to, more because he doesn't know how. "Athletic Director" is about 10% of what these figure heads do. In our district the bulk of the AD job is building maintenance and safety (fire drills, etc).
I'm essentially looking for ideas where I can make it his idea and get his support.
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Post by option1 on Dec 9, 2021 7:58:38 GMT -6
We are a title 1 school with 1600 kids. Our demographic is typical of the area, give or take, 38% Hispanic, 32% white, 22% black. All of our sports sans wrestling are trash. Even wrestling which has been a juggernaut for over 30 years has been down for lack of participation. While our kids are not very talented it is obvious to me that we would be better together. We literally need each other just to compete.
My idea is to present my athletic director with a "sit down" among all the coaches to see if we can somehow "incentivise" playing multiple sports. The tricky part is to come up with a way to present it as not optional. While I realize that we technically cannot force a kid to do something, we can strongly encourage it.
Anyone have any experience with this type of thing? What are some ideas you might take into the meeting?
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Post by option1 on Nov 8, 2021 12:17:01 GMT -6
1.Food, If it is truly depressed area like where I am at, FOOD. 2. Don’t set unreasonable standards.. 90 pct attendance? Act of insanity. 3. Lock doors to weight room at set time. You want kids who want to be coached. Hard to do when you have a-holes. 4. Don’t keep them unnecessarily. Break your workouts up. People and workouts.so it’s busy and nobody has time f- off. And your staff needs to be in there. 45 minutes maybe. Send them the {censored} home. 5. If you can help it work with local coaches to set up 7v7, hog camps. And never a long day.and set up so kids who show get coached and reps. 6. If you are going to play certain people regardless, don’t punish people. 6 is an interesting perspective.
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Post by option1 on Nov 8, 2021 9:42:31 GMT -6
Brief Background:
- Title 1 - 6A school (1700 students) - Finishing second year as HC - Won 1 game in 4 years - Below average numbers (finished with 26) - 18 Spring practices followed by a scrimmage in May
Our students get 6 days off in November and 12 days in December.
We start weights 3 days a week in January and add a once a week 7 on 7 league in February.
What does your "off-season" program look like? I would like to incorporate a similar structure I've seen at other High School and College programs. Obviously the concern would be over kill leading to burnout. However, I've always felt like the November and December months are wasted. At this particular school it has been tough to get engagement until mid-April and our staff is looking at ways to increase participation earlier, at the same time not necessarily making the time football related.
One idea we have bounced around was to meet 1 day a week in the morning. Our P.C. (pancakes and culture) meeting would be 15-20 minutes, have simple culture message/lesson and most importantly allow me to put eyes on everyone at once.
We are also looking into incorporating a point based off-season program that will give points for attendance at P.C. meetings, playing other sports, etc. Anyone willing to share what theirs looks like?
If you are at a poor school, how do you incetivize good results?
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Post by option1 on Oct 11, 2021 6:56:11 GMT -6
We have a player that wants to quit citing mental health issues. Say's he "can't even watch the game right now" and it's best for him if he quits. In today's society I get all that and will listen when the boy wants to talk. However, he wants to address the team and I am concerned that given this players status it may start a trend. We are bad, we are fragile, and we are in the toughest part of our season. Part of me doesn't want to let the player address the team. Thoughts? WHY does he want to address the team, i.e. what would he say to them? Not an expert but one's mental health seems like it would be an intensely private-individual issue to be dealt with by professionals. Don't see how "address(ing) the team" would benefit him or them. Those are my thoughts. He says he feels like he should just say something.
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Post by option1 on Oct 11, 2021 6:42:03 GMT -6
We have a player that wants to quit citing mental health issues. Say's he "can't even watch the game right now" and it's best for him if he quits. In today's society I get all that and will listen when the boy wants to talk. However, he wants to address the team and I am concerned that given this players status it may start a trend. We are bad, we are fragile, and we are in the toughest part of our season. Part of me doesn't want to let the player address the team. Thoughts?
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Post by option1 on Oct 2, 2021 13:56:24 GMT -6
We got smoked 44-0. We have been fortunate to have classy dudes that pull their guys when it gets out of hand. We haven't lost a second half, not counting last week in an even match up.
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Post by option1 on Sept 30, 2021 10:00:10 GMT -6
We have a 14 yard x 17 yard stencil. How long does it take to paint using a stencil this size?
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Post by option1 on Sept 26, 2021 15:17:08 GMT -6
That's a hard fal brother.
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Post by option1 on Sept 25, 2021 13:12:55 GMT -6
Lot's of good stuff here that will be put to use. I appreciate the feedback. Up 12 - 0 with less than 8 minutes, we lost 14-12.
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Post by option1 on Sept 24, 2021 8:12:04 GMT -6
Or been bad? I took a job with a struggling program that is traditionally middle of the road. Recruiting, school choice and a dramatic shift in the demographic have put a strangle hold on athletics here in general. Tonight we play a team that has 23 wins in 20 years including 1 in the last 10 (not counting 3 forfeits). We also have 1 win in 3 years. We are not better than our opponent at this point, and got weathered out of 3 practices this week. Adding to my anxiety is my kids inflated expectations that have nothing to do with us and more to do with the opponents history. After getting smacked around last week our kids were only concerned with this weeks opponents score. You see where this could end up...
I have been fortunate to be a part of competitive teams all but 1 season in my 20 plus years and I can honestly say in that time I never learned how to deal with this scenario. It's not much of a challenge keeping the players focused and interested after getting drubbed by much better teams but I am concerned of the outcome if we do not show well tonight. Thoughts?
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Post by option1 on Aug 14, 2021 17:08:24 GMT -6
We are required to use a wet bulb thermometer here. Depending on the reading it limits the length of practice and how often we have to take breaks or whether we can be outside at all. The other day we had to go in the field-house in the middle of practice for a cool off before we were able to start practice again. I don't understand why this isn't the standard. Its annoying, but safer all around.
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Post by option1 on Jul 20, 2021 14:15:10 GMT -6
Any Florida coaches out there that have been presented with this part of the rule: g) Only students who are enrolled in non-FHSAA member private schools consisting of 125 students or fewer are eligible to participate in the program in any given academic year.
Was there a work-a-around?
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Post by option1 on Apr 27, 2021 10:24:35 GMT -6
If you decide to continue, I would do everything I could to make it fun (while having a purpose). If it's miserable you will soon find yourself with 4 dudes and then no dudes. If you make it fun they will tell their friends and you could have more dudes. I'm awful at this kind of stuff. Have no idea how to make practice meaningful and fun under these circumstances.
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Post by option1 on Apr 26, 2021 12:19:46 GMT -6
This is my first full year. Spring was canceled for Covid last year. Numbers have been low for a few years but this 6A Florida school usually carries 75 between JV and varsity. Haven't had a JV team in 2 years. Spring ball is not really an issue here for 95% of teams. Kids know they "need" to, and want to play. The end of 20 practices culminates qith a practice game under the lights. 23 years in this county and I've never seen this. Embarrassing...
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Post by option1 on Apr 25, 2021 15:51:19 GMT -6
Welp, tomorrow starts spring ball and as of right now, this moment I have 8 "dudes" cleared to participate. Yes, "dudes", is in reference to total number of bodies and not 15-17 year old super heroes. We're not going to flinch But I have no idea how to manage this situation. Thoughts?
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Post by option1 on Mar 26, 2021 8:46:21 GMT -6
We have our team in squads for lifting, etc. Things are getting a little stale and we want to ramp it up by creating competition. Those of you that have a point system for this type of thing what are you giving points for?
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Post by option1 on Jan 28, 2021 8:45:56 GMT -6
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Post by option1 on Dec 24, 2020 14:51:03 GMT -6
Looks like many of you are blessed with righteous young men that are willing to show up and do a bunch of difficult stuff you ask them to do just to play a game for a few minutes on whatever day you play. God bless you and your community.
For anyone else reading this I will provide a different perspective. I used to believe all it took was being a good coach. I was wrong and many of my players have let me know it in one way or the other. At my previous program we did far more community service projects that never showed up on social media, etc. The ones that did were often posted by our kids or had some other major faction that was receiving "ink." We have had players that get jealous over what type of programs the other sports are involved in. We also find that we are providing our kids a valuable service being that community service hours are often required and if not, at least helpful on college apps.
I believe that a players willingness to be a part of completely voluntary efforts shows buy in. Some kids need a good reason to get out of the house and be around their friends. I also believe kids want to do good things for people and to be an important part of a cause.
I stopped doing this just for x's and o's 15 years ago. I don't want to "just be a coach" again. Not worth it.
Thanks for everyones replies.
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Post by option1 on Dec 17, 2020 9:20:15 GMT -6
I love reading about what others do in our industry. A lot of times it seems like we are all doing the same thing and that the conversations almost become "cliche." What's one thing your program does that may be unique? Anything but x's and o's. Yes, I'm trying to steal your ideas
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Post by option1 on Oct 30, 2020 8:08:57 GMT -6
Turns out the penalty is too severe to even consider a forfeit.
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Post by option1 on Oct 29, 2020 5:40:14 GMT -6
It seems as though you have your answer. I wouldn't leave it up to the players to decide. You should do it. Ya, I think he's just looking for someone to justify it. The question is about allowing the players to vote. Thanks
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Post by option1 on Oct 28, 2020 17:47:48 GMT -6
As a coach, I would never sacrifice my guys by sending them into a meat grinder, but if they're not physically outmatched, I'd say let them play. After all, it's their team. You of all people should know if they can or can't physically compete. I'm sure that you have met (as have we all) other coaches whose primary attention is on their own W/L record and that is what drives them. So what is important to the guys? If they can match up and you back off from the contest...well, that's what quitters do. They'll never forget that. If we could match up this wouldn't even be a thought in my mind. My biggest concern is that we have kids that want to play and it isn't safe. We're just a couple players away from being in the danger zone, as happened in game I recerenced above. We had circumstances that required players be on the field that weren't ready and it didn't end well for them. May be 2 of the worst concussion symptoms I've seen. I believe we could safely play if noone had to go out long term. Soon as that happens though we are down to freshman that wouldn't play in a jv game here.
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Post by option1 on Oct 28, 2020 17:18:10 GMT -6
What's the difference between potentially having to play a juggernaut the last week of your regular season? Would you forfeit that game? The difference is I already know we don't really have a choice in the matter of scheduled contest and there would be a penalty that our district and school would not approve of. I'm not sure what our county A.D. would think but our school A.D. is all about not playing this game. Qe had a 60 point halftime deficit earlier in the year and he went over to find out our second half options from the refs. 1 of the options was to forfeit the second half, which would have automatically disqualified us from the state series, guy was all for it!
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Post by option1 on Oct 28, 2020 17:03:01 GMT -6
For anyone that does not know, Florida chose to do a blind draw for playoffs based on Counties that opted in to the state series. There are many teams, like us, who do not belong and have been matched with juggernauts. We have had a rough season, are low on numbers and would have a bye week to contend with were we to play. Given the circumstances I have considered leaving whether to play or not up to a player vote. Thoughts?
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Post by option1 on Sept 23, 2020 8:30:35 GMT -6
We have 32 players and 3 coaches. We do not have a JV. We needs lots of polishing and that includes the 14 that need to play for us. The remaining 18 are just learning the game, however, there's just enough of them to cause chaos and interrupt the flow of practice. I'm leaning toward trying to split practice somehow. For now we're thinking of doing 1/2 line good on good periods to at least get good looks. I'm looking for suggestions on organization of the "leftovers". Should we incorporate them into the other half and run the periods that way, or split them off completely and have them work their own 1/2 line structure? Any other suggestions?
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Post by option1 on Sept 23, 2020 8:15:21 GMT -6
Anyone have experience with the Wagner deals?
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Post by option1 on Sept 6, 2020 9:24:34 GMT -6
How do you tell them they are really bad? How do you tell them they're good without going over the top? Is this a real question? Yes, and in the simplest of terms. Not so much a "how", but more of a what... I've been doing this 25 years and feel like I'm giving the same information over an over.
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Post by option1 on Sept 5, 2020 11:56:31 GMT -6
How do you tell them they are really bad? How do you tell them they're good without going over the top?
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Post by option1 on Aug 22, 2020 16:00:05 GMT -6
If you mean for a logo, I got an idea. I was at a school once that had no money for such things, but I wanted one. So I went to the art teacher and found the best student she had (this girl was going to some fancy art college soon, absolute stud). I asked if she would be able to create a large replica of our logo on a large clear plastic tarp, which she did. I cut it out, and initially used that, until I was smart enough to transfer it onto plywood (lot easier) and then cut that into two pieces. Now it was just line them up and trace the edges with spray paint, then fill them in afterwards. How big was the plywood, and who cut it out?
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